A Bard's Tale

[Dostarr]

I appreciate the sincerity Tacite, and I'm guessing since you spoke to my brother, your discretion on the matter. However, I am not depressed...I am perturbed that effort goes unrewarded because there are lots of bards who do exactly what everyone here, myself included, has been bitching about and it gets old that because I am swarming too I am, by default, tacked onto that list before anyone even knows me. This post has emphasized that point better than anything I could ever say [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

Inb4, "you're one person, how can everyone else be wrong and you be right"...look around you at the world, people are stupid everything's fucked up. Perhaps it IS the masses. George Carlin said the SAME thing, god rest his soul.

[Dostarr]

I clearly haven't damaged my reputation all that much...since people continue handing me accounts with 100-400k of gear/equips then tossing me 100k plat and saying...hey make me 46. My reputation is solid in that regard, you CAN trust me. People liking my bard? I did care..but ya'll convinced me that point is moot. I never intended on PLAYING Rojas anyway.. I traded for him solely to PL. Why not trade a 51 cleric I can re-level in 15 hours for a bard that can be my money maker. Hell since this post went up I've had to turn down at least 10 requests because we are so booked. So once again your baseless assumptions are incorrect.

[Asap]

Everyone wants to hate Rojas until they have enough plat to hire him.

[Dostarr]

The same dumbasses screaming "zone disrupt, zone disrupt, you pull everything and rip mobs off people" request I do the same thing when they hire me..gotta tell em I don't do that all day. People are so fickle and stupid.

Some people are just joking but, a few have definitely been serious.

[TeaReks]

Originally Posted by Dostarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The same dumbasses screaming "zone disrupt, zone disrupt, you pull everything and rip mobs off people" request I do the same thing when they hire me..gotta tell em I don't do that all day. People are so fickle and stupid.

Welcome to the Human Experience.

[Wudan]

Just couple of points from the top of my head

Imagine what would the servet look like if everyone played it like Rojas. He spends his time in EQ making money (for what ffs? How much money do you need?) not playing the actual game. His style is detrimental to the server and only helps rich guys from the top to lvl more and more alts so they can cockblock more raid content.

How exactly does he lvl other peoples alts without them taking an active role in the process?. Well i will tell you what i think. I do not have any evidence, but my feeling is he boxes them. I saw him lvling one of those alts in kurns and it had boxing written all over it. Let me rephrase it...i saw many suspicious duos where i thought these guys might be boxing, but the feeling was never as strong as when i saw rojas PLing this low lvl char in kurns. If i had to quantify, i would say i was 90% sure.

One thing is his playstyle which creates negative energy and only helps himself and few rich lazy guys, but is not actualy "illegal", other thing would be if he is using ip exemption to box while PLing.

I might be wrong, but i doubt it.

My estimate is he could make around 200k during busy week, maybe even more. Where does all that money go? Is he sponsoring halfling terrorist units that will perform suicide attacks in Neriak?

[anotherone]

Originally Posted by Wudan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is he sponsoring halfling terrorist units that will perform suicide attacks in Neriak?

gd halflings!

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by t0lkien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't want to derail this thread, but people did the numbers years ago (many more times than once) and apart from things they bring to the table that can't be easily quantified, just pure DPS increase from having a Bard in your group is almost on a par with a Rogue. That doesn't take into account the utility they bring which has the result of speeding up XP generally, and making a group more solid, and flexible.

Mind you, this wasn't in classic which doesn't have the stacking line of Bard overhaste songs, and I think took into account the Bard epic. Even so, a well played Bard holds their own in a group - so much so SOE started nerfing them later on. It's a busy class to play well though, I'm not gonna lie.

P.S. I can't really comment on the "half-assed" statement because apart from missing the point I think because it all stacks anyway, I do fine as main CC, mana battery, and regen-er, along with haster and slow/snarer when there's no Shaman (and even when there is to cover resists), so don't know what else to say.

Bards are awesome in groups....Stacking mana songs=Less down time=More Pulls..On top of just that good bards can lock down 3 to 4 adds with mez(sometimes more) in emergencies. That isn't getting into the other songs they have at their disposal that helps groups in a big way. I imagine he had experience with quite a few bad bards.

[Trouble]

After like level 8 ae kiting was already a pain in the ass but I did it to level up fast. Dungeon crawling with a bard especially in seb where no one else wants to pull cuz of casters is tons of fun and really makes you bring every tool you have to the workbench if you want to do well and be remembered.

Haste is a solid 45% and with most people having haste items it puts you up there by cap. As far as regen is concerned to whoever posted about it, bards have the best mana regen that extends to other players and in the same song have a health regen that's maybe 2hp less than regrowth if they're playing strings and can still stack other health regen songs on top of it, though I usually don't stop to put on strings unless requested, which isn't often if you're pulling singles to keep cleric mana up. Also, personally I think you're wrong about our lull being ghetto. Maybe it's the most reliable in the game? Might not last as long but gets resisted less. Bards are gonna be able to split a room of 5 casters with generally way less problems than another pulling class.

My only gripe, which is minor, with the class is the charm takes mana, which after pulling for so long eventually wears your mana down even with the piddly mana cost, if you're like me and pull, then generally go grab a charm target to break it when the last target goes down.

Anyway, just thought I'd talk about the other aspects of this class that some seem to miss out on when they just see us running circles, which isn't easy either especially when you're soloing. Try it. The easy factor comes in when there's a duo or ae snare.

Back to your thread!

[Splorf22]

I think the big problem is that low-hp kiting has trivialized this. It used to be that bards would periodically monopolize zones AOE kites, but there are only so many bards, and not every bard did it because it was easy to die. Low-hp kiting makes it risk free, makes it possible in many zones, and means that bards can PL an unlimited stream of clients. Between this and Chardok AOE anyone can pl a toon 1-60 in like a week. Personally I think it's so unbalancing that it needs a nerf regardless of being classic or not.