So how about that Zimmerman trial?

[Hasbinbad]

that he followed martin while on the phone with cops is an obvious fact not up for debate as per zimmerman narrating those facts himself while on the phone with 911 as it happened. he obviously initiated everything.

[Hasbinbad]

so funny how threads like this get you fucking bigots to out yourselves.

if i wasn't so sure that kobatogs was one of you, I would pras him highly.

[Daldolma]

that's not illegal and isn't an initiation of physical confrontation

you don't get to pounce on someone and punch them in the head because they're following you

[Stinkum]

Originally Posted by Daldolma

you don't get to pounce on someone and punch them in the head because they're following you

ia but u have to admit its pretty embarassing to be a grown ass man and get your ass whooped by a scrawny lil teenager so bad that u had to bring a gat into it

[Daldolma]

totally embarrassing. zimmerman is obviously an overeager wanna-be cop that got his ass whooped as soon as someone challenged him. he had over 100 pounds on trayvon. and he was so scared that he feared for his life

he's a pussy. but that's not illegal either. there is, at the very least, a reasonable doubt as to whether zimmerman was simply an overeager neighborhood watchman that was physically attacked, overwhelmed, threatened, and afraid for his life when he used a single bullet to defend himself

which makes this whole trial a sham. there's no eliminating that doubt. just wasting taxpayer dollars to eliminate the appearance of a racist justice system

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

which makes this whole trial a sham. there's no eliminating that doubt. just wasting taxpayer dollars to eliminate the appearance of a racist justice system

As a grown man, it's reasonable to doubt another grown man should ever feel the need to use a gun to solve a conflict with a boy whom he outweighs by a hundred pounds. Simply invoking "I was scared" should not relieve anyone from all accountability. Thus we have trials, and in this one there will be every attempt made to suss out what Zimmerman's mind-state was at the time of the incident. You may not understand the intricacies, but experts will testify to his behavioral patterns and whether or not what you call "overeagerness" was in fact something more insidious. Then the jury will decide if his invocation of self-defense is reasonable.

I hope that helps you fathom why we has trial.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that he followed martin while on the phone with cops is an obvious fact not up for debate as per zimmerman narrating those facts himself while on the phone with 911 as it happened. he obviously initiated everything.

didn't the 911 operator say to not engage martin and wait for the police?

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a grown man, it's reasonable to doubt another grown man should ever feel the need to use a gun to solve a conflict with a boy whom he outweighs by a hundred pounds. Simply invoking "I was scared" should not relieve anyone from all accountability. Thus we have trials, and in this one there will be every attempt made to suss out what Zimmerman's mind-state was at the time of the incident. You may not understand the intricacies, but experts will testify to his behavioral patterns and whether or not what you call "overeagerness" was in fact something more insidious. Then the jury will decide if his invocation of self-defense is reasonable.

I hope that helps you fathom why we has trial.

that all sounds nice but it's ultimately incorrect

saying "i was scared" shouldn't relieve him of accountability, but given a context in which fear is reasonable, it does. case history doesn't even necessitate violence for a case of self defense, which makes this an open-and-shut case given zimmerman's injuries

it is not possible to prove his state of mind beyond a reasonable doubt. it is not possible to prove he wasn't afraid for his life, given available evidence. you can prove his "overeagerness" was borne of the most insidious of behavioral patterns, even that he was an outright bigot looking for trouble. but that's not going to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that zimmerman was the one that initiated physical violence or that he wasn't actually afraid for his life once he began losing the fight.

between his injuries, his account of trayvon reaching for his gun and saying "you're going to die", and his use of a single bullet, he has a compelling case for self defense. something in his account would need to be disproven for it to fail. that evidence doesn't exist

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you don't get to pounce on someone and punch them in the head because they're following you

Follow me at night. See what happens.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

didn't the 911 operator say to not engage martin and wait for the police?

yes