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Old 06-30-2013, 03:24 PM
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I need time to think about this. More later.
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Old 06-30-2013, 03:27 PM
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This thread and Alawens posts, after scientific reasoning and logical deduction, can be estimated to be around 97.8% homosexual in nature.
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Old 06-30-2013, 03:31 PM
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Oh, perhaps Kagatob and the rest of the internet-crawling tranny lovers should stop watching so much guy-on-girl porn. Seeing that much dick, even if it is entering into a vagina, while pleasuring yourself or associating it with pleasurable thoughts, can not be healthy.

Maybe that's why you feel the need to lust after a person that represents both the female and male spectrum, as is the case in standard porn videos.

Inb4 I don't watch porn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 06-30-2013, 03:36 PM
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It's not gay unless you are catching. Doing to he pitching is completely hetrosexual. This point is explained quite well by big Bob.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hne5a_jkdyw
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Old 06-30-2013, 03:38 PM
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You made a specific claim: that masculinity and femininity follow a normal distribution. Show me the science behind this, Mr. Science, or come off your high horse.

And if you would like to replace my term "sexuality" with your preferred terms "masculinity/femininity," go for it. You will find the meaning of my post unchanged.

Ubiquitous ambiguity is as much of an oversimplification as non-overlapping masculine/feminine categories. The world is complicated and there's room for lots of opinions, but this thread is full of career underdogs. I expect most people here have very similar and "liberal" views on this topic, but are unable to pass up the opportunity for a joke or to posture as open-minded intellectuals.
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:00 PM
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This thread and Alawens posts, after scientific reasoning and logical deduction, can be estimated to be around 97.8% homosexual in nature.
You trash your own credibility whenever you use homosexual as an implied or explicit insult.
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Old 06-30-2013, 05:16 PM
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You made a specific claim: that masculinity and femininity follow a normal distribution. Show me the science behind this, Mr. Science, or come off your high horse.

And if you would like to replace my term "sexuality" with your preferred terms "masculinity/femininity," go for it. You will find the meaning of my post unchanged.

Ubiquitous ambiguity is as much of an oversimplification as non-overlapping masculine/feminine categories. The world is complicated and there's room for lots of opinions, but this thread is full of career underdogs. I expect most people here have very similar and "liberal" views on this topic, but are unable to pass up the opportunity for a joke or to posture as open-minded intellectuals.
The earliest study I know of, by Alfred Kinsey, Wardell Pomeroy, and Clyde Martin, dates from the late 1940s. "Males do not represent two discrete populations, heterosexual and homosexual. The world is not to be divided into sheep and goats. It is a fundamental of taxonomy that nature rarely deals with discrete categories ... The living world is a continuum in each and every one of its aspects." The fact that you are not aware of this well-known and fundamental literature indicates that you speak from a position of near complete ignorance on sexuality. As I stated earlier, logical arguments cannot be valid and sound without true premises.

This will be the only time I indulge your demand for citation. Educate yourself; it's not my job.
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Old 06-30-2013, 05:40 PM
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Inb4 I don't watch porn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Are camwhores porn?

Is reading porn watching porn?

If my girlfriend sends me a pic/vid of herself toying around, is that porn?

What if said toy was that cute lady we met at that convention would that make it porn?

The above questions are not rhetorical, I'm aware that some/all can easily be answered with 'yes' however I believe some/all are subject to opinion. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also if I do watch porn that contains a tranny I aim for ones where the tranny is fucking a girl because it's like lesbians going at it only with real penetration. Just saying.
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Old 06-30-2013, 05:46 PM
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Just an F.Y.I. she's 14 and depicted as such...
kagatob is a disgusting anime pedophile
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Old 06-30-2013, 05:50 PM
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don't think i did. i think i provided standard definitions for sexuality and acknowledged that heterosexuality and homosexuality are not in any way mutually exclusive and do, in fact, overlap in many instances. essentially i allowed for exactly what you said above when you estimated your own sexuality as 90% hetero.

all i did was extract gender from the discussion. gender is a social construct; it is not a consideration when discussing hetero or homo sexuality. everything you've stated has matched that framework, particularly when you reference attraction to a transgender female as an example of homosexual attraction. HBB would argue that is an example of heterosexuality.
I do a lot of my best thinking in the shower, so I had a long shower and gave your ideas some thought.

In terms of definitions, homosexual and heterosexual are a little difficult. Both terms are used as both adjectives and nouns. Some acts are easy to classify with those adjectives. Others are more difficult. What is it if someone's hot girlfriend straps on a huge dildo and fucks him in the ass? What if a cute tgirl has complete sexual reassignment surgery and then she and I hook up? What if I don't know about the reassignment? What if she gives me head before the surgery and I don't know?

Used as nouns, the terms are even more difficult. By stating that they're non-exclusive, you seem to step right into the gray area you were determined to avoid. I'm a straight male. I'm also a little gay. What does that even mean? I haven't even touched on the ambiguities of biological outliers. What if I have sex with a hermaphrodite, but avoid contact with the penis? What if I used to have sex with a tgirl, but before and since only had female partners? What if I masturbated with my buddy when I was 12? What if he touched my penis? What if I touched his?

Language is a living thing. Meanings change over time. Some concepts are even lost completely. I think both of these terms are going through tremendous changes right now, and I think the changes in public opinion about things like pride parades and gay marriage reflect those societal and linguistic changes.

The American Psychological Association, the California Psychological Association, the American Psychiatric Association, and the National Association of Social Workers filed this brief supporting the challenges to Proposition 8 in California and discussed the temporal and contextual nature of these issues in great detail. This is not fringe thinking. It is mainstream science.

My personal speculation is that this is all happening because we are finally departing the blindness and ignorance of Victorian Christianity. It's about fucking time.
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