Trap Thread

[nuglord]

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[Kagatob]

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[KessonDaslef]

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[Ryba]

Bardalicious and Daldolma logicked the shit out of this thread but alas, our heroes were up against a crusade so steeped in righteous victimhood that there was never any hope of peaceful resolution.

What would we have to swear to in order to convince you that very few people around here give a shit what gets you off, and what is really annoying is your constantly shining a light into the closet expecting to find all your opponents there? Why do so many lgbt people try to position themselves as clear-eyed ultra-realists in arguments, as though their sexual experiences come with logic superpowers? Just because Puritanical gender dichotomies are wrong, doesn't mean you get to obnoxiously equivocate every distinction into gray meaninglessness from your throne of "I-fuck-dudes, therefore-I-get-it."

People who disagree with you are not automatically your closed-minded father yelling at you while your mom weeps. Your agenda is written on your sleeve and it makes you ultra bad at debate.

[Alawen]

Logical argument is sound and valid only if the premises are true. The topics of biological sex, gender identity, and sexuality in general are finally coming to light under scientific investigation after centuries of Victorian taboo. You, along with Bardalicious and Daldolma, are approaching this subject from an unexamined perspective which leads you to simplified opinions which exclude a statistically significant percentage of human population. That is not science. Masculinity and femininity, like most human attributes, apparently follow a normal distribution. Outliers are part of the curve in both biology and psychology, not distinct from it.

At a personal level, I identify as heterosexual and I've never had a significant homosexual experience, but I've had a crush on David Bowie for decades. I'm also attracted to Wilson Jermaine Heredia who played Angel in Rent, as well as Carla Gay, a very curvy tgirl I met in San Francisco. Does this make me homosexual? I tend to think of myself as about 90% heterosexual. What would I do if I met an amazing, sexy person who was interested in me, but happened to have a penis? I really can't say. Attraction, sex, and love are not easily categorized.

On a side note, I'm really curious when HBB switched sides on this. I wonder if it's related to either education or personal experience. Maybe both.

[Daldolma]

i don't remember what i said in this thread but i assume i was in fact correct

[Alawen]

You proposed a false dichotomy with no evidence and stated it as fact. It was very half-assed. When did your posts lose their capitalization, punctuation, variety of vocabulary, and complexity? I didn't always agree with your old posts, but I usually found them worth reading. Now they're typically vapid and banal.

[Ryba]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You, along with Bardalicious and Daldolma, are approaching this subject from an unexamined perspective which leads you to simplified opinions which exclude a statistically significant percentage of human population. That is not science. Masculinity and femininity, like most human attributes, apparently follow a normal distribution. Outliers are part of the curve in both biology and psychology, not distinct from it.

Rhetorical questions here, please don't bother answering as you are afflicted with the same myopia as the rest of the faux-progressive pseudo-intellectual white knights grandstanding in this thread.

Other than you just not liking the cut of my jib, why would my perspective be "unexamined" and yours well-considered?

Who have I "excluded" from anything?

When did I make any scientific claims?

Do you realize that normal distributions allow for very few outliers? Gaussian curves imply a smooth gradient, not a significant number of outliers. I agree there is a spectrum of sexuality, but I do not agree that it follows a normal distribution or that it fails to include some pretty wild and populous extremes. The evidence that men are generally attracted to pussy to the point of preoccupation is everywhere. There is a massive genetic bias toward heterosexuality, but pointing this is out is not a de facto attack on any of the shit that you like, and it does nothing to limit the variety of sex/gender identities.

I know you wish I would dehumanize you so you could talk to me like I'm right-wing scum, but it isn't going to happen. You get equal respect from me until you start witch-hunting.

[Alawen]

Neither of your rants include any facts or reasoning. Your first post can be summarized as, "Just because we're partly wrong doesn't mean we're completely wrong!" LGBT issues are a constant topic on RnF? What?

You start your second rant with absurd hyperbole in an apparent attempt to stereotype and dismiss anyone who disagrees with you. You go on to replace my discrete terms masculinity and femininity with the term sexuality in order to set up a straw man to knock down with your unnecessary demonstration that you know what normal distribution means. You continue to equate small numbers with zero.

You're right about one thing, though: your posts are devoid of science.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You proposed a false dichotomy with no evidence and stated it as fact. It was very half-assed. When did your posts lose their capitalization, punctuation, variety of vocabulary, and complexity? I didn't always agree with your old posts, but I usually found them worth reading. Now they're typically vapid and banal.

don't think i did. i think i provided standard definitions for sexuality and acknowledged that heterosexuality and homosexuality are not in any way mutually exclusive and do, in fact, overlap in many instances. essentially i allowed for exactly what you said above when you estimated your own sexuality as 90% hetero.

all i did was extract gender from the discussion. gender is a social construct; it is not a consideration when discussing hetero or homo sexuality. everything you've stated has matched that framework, particularly when you reference attraction to a transgender female as an example of homosexual attraction. HBB would argue that is an example of heterosexuality.