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[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by diplo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wait what? do you know what you're talking about or are we thinking of two separate things here? Jordan was known to get the best from his teammates. he was hard on them yes, he yelled at them yes, but he made sure that everyone played with as much intensity as him every night they are on the floor. jordan played hard all 48 minutes of the game. lebron still has a nagging tendency to sit on auto-pilot, which reflects on his teammates. honestly, the heat should have not lost so many game 1's of the playoffs. they could have made this much easier on themselves.

lebron is learning that field general roll too.

[Grahm]

saying lebron is a better leader than MJ was is admitting you're trolling.

[stormlord]

They're reshowing game 6 on nbatv. On dish, it's 156 I think. I missed game 6.

I think it was the one where Ray Allen put down some 3's to get into OT.

And I think I read that Duncan had 25 pts in the first half.

[Ahldagor]

yup, good game too

[stormlord]

I just got done watching the recording of game 6.

First point is.... I thought the Spurs played better. I though for sure they'd win. If I had been a Miami fan, I'd be heading for the doors in the last few moments. But somehow James and Ray Allen hit those 3's. And they responded to the Spurs with determination to win all throughout the 4th quarter. I remember when Miller blocked Duncan's shot and it led to a jump ball. The Spurs got it but it was during those kinds of moments that Miami was asserting their will on the Spurs. James lost his headband too. It symbolized his will to win.

It was when the OT finished and Miami won that I found a problem. See, up till that time, they were tooth and nail. They fought extremely hard. But Ray Allen got away with a foul on Ginobili and Bosh got away with a foul on Green. IMHO, if those fouls had been called then Miami still might have won, but since they weren't called it makes me question the whole thing. I know that the home team refs usually favor the home team and I know that in the playoffs they tend to not call things because everything is so rough and I know that Miami played so damn hard and came back from what seemed like a certain loss, but the credibility of the game is more important than all of those things to me. I know that it's very common for players to hack other players and for it to not be called. In fact, there was a non-call when Duncan was holding another guy back for a Ginobili "layup". I've seen many examples over the last few years of non-calls. But anyway, Miami DID play hard and the Spurs really should have been the deciding factor in game seven, but they weren't.

ONE other thing. There was that point where Duncan was taken out of the game in the last minute. Bosh, if you recall, got the rebound and passed it out to Ray Allen who sunk the 3. Some people think that if Duncan had remained in hte game, it never would have happened. I'm not sure.

In the end, both these teams are so very good. When it comes down to just a couple calls or plays here and there, you know that both teams want it bad and they're mostly equally good.

And look at Lebron. He would have had a triple-double AVERAGE for the series if not for the < 8 rebound average. The stats say that in a finals game only jordon and 1 other guy have done it. I may remember wrong, but in any case, James was a large force on the court, no doubt. Is why he's famous.

Note: Spurs won 70% of their regular season games. Miami won 80%.

[Ahldagor]

refs usually favor the team that's playing hard. home court does come into play, but it's nothing like the fix job that happened to the kings. i'm a fan of the ref swallowing the whistle in all sport championships though.

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

refs usually favor the team that's playing hard. home court does come into play, but it's nothing like the fix job that happened to the kings. i'm a fan of the ref swallowing the whistle in all sport championships though.

The Spurs had a chance to reclaim the championship with game seven and didn't. Unless I missed a series of bad calls, Miami won fair and square. Can't take that away from Miami.

It does seem that Miami just had a stronger push, although the Spurs played real well.

This series didn't effect me as much as the 2010-11 series between the Dallas Mavericks and Miami. I'll never forget how unstoppable the Mavericks were. I actually cried when they were given the trophy. It was such a beautiful run, never to be recaptured. It was like God ordained it to happen. It was quite apart from the 2009-10 series between the Lakers and Boston. In that series, the last few games were sloppy and somehow the Lakers had lost all their charm. I liked Kobe and Phil, but I think I liked Boston more.

Here she is, what a wonderful and unforgettable year in the nba:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwPMuDkCxcM

[Ahldagor]

they were still mad about '06. they got robbed then too.

nba refs all in all are just inconsistent which is what makes people so mad. it's like all those "moving screens" that lebron kept getting called for out of the blue because he's screened that way all season, and then all of a sudden it's a foul in crunch time. that's what i don't like, and proly many others. call it in minute one as you'd call it in minute forty seven.

lakers and celtics game 7 was terrible, and for some reason LA shot more free throws in the fourth than the other 3 periods combined. refs got real ticky tacky on boston, but boston couldn't score that whole second half worth a damn.