Enough with this manastone list BS - Page 5

Origin · #41 02-22-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've got some info for that -- there is no list, only camps. Beyond who has the camp is beyond GM control and is considered player politics.

Bottom line is: If you're willing to mediate player interactions on the raid level, you should do the same on the camp level. Now i understand that it'd be impossible to do that, since... fuck having anyone put in the man hours to GM 24/7 and deal with camp issues. But that's why you have a plain and simple solution: You make a rule that camps get handed to those who have been there the longest.

The end.

Abacab · #42 02-22-2010, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Better for whom? By giving extra time not only do we allow for the people wanting to get the items more time, but we stop petitions and bribe offers of.. "this is the only reason i'm playing", "thanks for no warning", etc etc.

I think you guys getting an extra week or 2 is better for everyone. You don't *HAVE* to camp them.

Nah that is bad politics, assume the government said "we're allowing the supply of gasoline to continue for only one more week" besides people slamming into gas pumps and filling up everything from their tank to their daughters Hannah Montana squeeze bottle with gas, you're going to flood the market with a supply that is going to inflate the price.

**nilbog** · #43 02-22-2010, 06:23 PM

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Nah that is bad politics, assume the government said "we're allowing the supply of gasoline to continue for only one more week" besides people slamming into gas pumps and filling up everything from their tank to their daughters Hannah Montana squeeze bottle with gas, you're going to flood the market with a supply that is going to inflate the price.

We are recreating the past. In your example, no one knows that gas will stop "dropping" until it is announced 1 week in advance. In our example here.. as soon as I opened the server, the limited nature of these items was announced long ago.

Gas is required for our real lives(this can be debated, but seriously). You are not required by any means to go camp these items.

Pikle · #44 02-22-2010, 06:32 PM

I hear what you are saying Nilbog and agree with it, you guys would catch more from the players if you just removed them without warning. And yeah I figured that the top few guilds would already have plenty of manastones considering they have known about the stoppage of the drop for months now. We still have players that just got into the server a few weeks ago that want one. Now that doesn't mean we deserve them, it's a camp just like any other and it's up for grabs. The player who camps it controls it. I remember beta/classic in 1998 and 1999. People would fight tooth and nail over camps like this constantly, and they had no clue anything was going to stop dropping.

And this is the last time I will say this, and without naming any names. I personally know many people who have camped the manastone between them and another person or just themselves and let someone log onto their character to keep the camp going and they do this for days, sometimes even weeks. The problem I have is if I could have gotten this camp a lot earlier, Gothic Circle would have been better off instead of having to cram it all now. But because it was so hard to get the camp from some people, we had to wait, and wait, and wait... so now we are stuck in this situation mainly because people wanted to monopolize this spawn for months.

Goobles · #45 02-22-2010, 06:32 PM

I think the GMs should confiscate the 8 Manastones on Penoy's account and sell raffle 'tickets', one per attendee, and the world will be happy.

Pikle · #46 02-22-2010, 06:35 PM

haha goobs I like this idea

Trimm · #47 02-22-2010, 06:39 PM

So people are mad at Gothic Circle for holding the manastone camp for an extended period of time in the exact same way Divinity, IB and Trans did, and the same way any other guild would if given the chance?

Please. It just happened to be dumb luck that they had the camp when the announcement was made, and now people are in a rush to get a stone before it poofs. Keep it as long as you can Pikle, give'em hell.

Tygerwoody · #48 02-22-2010, 06:39 PM

I'm so proud of you guys.

I'm holding down the EZ server guild atm. But its nice to know they are making such good decisions. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks Pikle!

Abacab · #49 02-22-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We are recreating the past. In your example, no one knows that gas will stop "dropping" until it is announced 1 week in advance. In our example here.. as soon as I opened the server, the limited nature of these items was announced long ago.

Gas is required for our real lives(this can be debated, but seriously). You are not required by any means to go camp these items.

It's just a rough example of pre-announcing the limited supply, most people assumed as soon as Sol Ro opened they'd stop dropping so they prepared for it. Since it was announced it's going to drop for another week that sent red flags to people to camp like mad in order to get the edge on supply for when the nerf does happen.

Shamaeso · #50 02-22-2010, 06:59 PM

Plus we had the camp before it was announced sol ro was open and the 1-2 week before stopping