PVP Talks tonight decide Red99 fate

[lite]

Originally Posted by abacab-winner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd say deal with it.

You're suffering because Chewie is too busy coining noobs in Guk, you're suffering because people would rather twink toons and roll Unrest; you have had the potential of forming a sizable opposition countless of times; but sadly the only people you can muster for your opposition are 3rd-stringer VZ/TZ rejects that didn't make the Torrent/TDT cut before the box dropped for the final time.

Essentially the only people you have to choose for the good fight are a bunch of losers that only know how to pad numbers and screenshot kills with their gank squads, that have never even attempted mass PvP on any scale outside a 5v1 SolB gankfest.

You're bound to lose anyway, even if you had the numbers and the gear.

It seems like you are more interested in pointing fingers and stating your opinion, than proposing ideas to improve the environment. I really want to keep this thread clean dude. Tonight's events are unprecedented, and the GM's could make this box which we've all grown to like ... playable.

[abacab-winner]

Originally Posted by p-niner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

imagine how fun the box would be if it was nihilum, vs lite crew, vs heresy crew

with variance

No you'd still whine.

You think juggling a few things around on the server is going to change anything? Adding a variance would just make Nihlium recruit that much harder and you'll watch their ranks swell as they entice noobs to join with free gear/plvl.

Heresy crew and Lite crew would still lost almost every single target, and they still wouldn't be able to put a dent in the monster known as Nihlium; and this has nothing to do with rulesets.

You just have shit guilds, with shit leaders, and sperglord followers, you'll consecutively go 0-9 in the little league not because your crew isn't trying, but because your Coach is a drunk pillhead that can't get his act together long enough to actually coach.

[lite]

alright, didn't know if he was an actual player. Trying to take everyone seriously here so hopefully the GM's dont throw up as they try and read this thread. I want to provide them with real ideas.

[Stasis01]

Abacab thinks we want changes so people will take over the #1 spot, which is actually completely irrelevant to what needs to happen to promote growth.

It just can't be exclusive to Nihilum, and griefers - which is how it's set up.

[abacab-winner]

Originally Posted by lite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It seems like you are more interested in pointing fingers and stating your opinion, than proposing ideas to improve the environment. I really want to keep this thread clean dude. Tonight's events are unprecedented, and the GM's could make this box which we've all grown to like ... playable.

No.

It's just the ideas thrown around are completely retarded and not even addressing the real issue.

"Turn on xp loss, turn on item loot, teams!"

None of that will do a damn thing, you'll still have nerds OOR healing, cross-teaming for zerg pixels; you'll be right back to where we are now not even 3-months down the road. You're only putting on band-aids and alleviating the symptoms but you're not curing the big problem which is an outright caustic community that equates play time with ruining someone elses time.

As long as you got pals getting full on boners on deleveling people, running people off the server, spamming OOC with hate speech and being an autistic fuck in general, then you'll never have anything worthwhile because all the mature and serious players will pool in one guild and the rest of the sperglords will implode themselves with infighting and narcissism.

This it'll just be Nihlium 2.0 vs. more 40 dungeon scrubs.

[lite]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Abacab thinks we want changes so people will take over the #1 spot, which is actually completely irrelevant to what needs to happen to promote growth.

It just can't be exclusive to Nihilum, and griefers - which is how it's set up.

thissss, a million times. Couldn't emphasize this enough.

[Stasis01]

Abacab thinks we want EXP death on, and item loot - no wonder this is going nowhere.

[lite]

The objective of this is not in the slightest to make the necessary arrangements to dethrone Nihilum and take #1. It's about creating an enjoyable environment for all.

[abacab-winner]

Originally Posted by lite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The objective of this is not in the slightest to make the necessary arrangements to dethrone Nihilum and take #1. It's about creating an enjoyable environment for all.

Then solve the real problems first.

Turn off global OOC
Enforce harassment policies, permaban anyone that griefs or talks shit, or posts screenshots to talk shit in the forums.

Until you really crackdown on the bullshit with zero-tolerance policies then it's more of the same, people perform better when things are draconian because you weed out negative elements.

It sucks you're going to have to treat a server like a fucking Public School where if you remotely say anything that is construed as offensive you get a suspension and a ton of other harsh penalties.

But you know reason #1 why you're not getting any fresh blood on the server is because of stupid ooc banter and consistent griefing.

[Mittens Romney]

Great post Stasis. The server is well beyond the point of a no return. A wipe and restart with a new rule set would bring back the fun of classic EQ pvp. I think teams is the only way to stop one guild from crushing the server if a wipe does happen. Forcing a united opposition would create fun and more competitive pvp battles for big spawns.