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Old 02-21-2013, 05:17 PM
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I think the problem here is that, from an outsider's perspective, it looks as if the hardcore guilds are trying to trivialize trak or conceal the fact that he's too easy, since it's mostly hardcore raiders who've responded (with the exception of Loraen I guess). I think this is the narrative Nirgon is trying to promote, because there is absolutely no basis to his claim that level 55's can resist trak's ae with ease. From the few times I've been on Trak raids on this server, I have trouble resisting the ae even at level 60 with insane bard resists. When I was in my low-mid 50's I literally never resisted it. This isn't a case of big guilds trying to cover up an exploit, this is just Nirgon trying to stroke his own ego and act as if he's a guru on classic eq by saying things we already know (like that the ae does 1200 damage. Really we needed you to tell us that, thanks Nirgon).
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:55 PM
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^same guy who said vox horn is useless on a pvp server

doesn't surprise me that you made this post

fix trak pls
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:06 PM
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I have no idea what you guys are talking about claiming you get hit by this aoe above 250 PR. I raided in TMO/IB on my bard and with just my buffs/shadoo alone I resisted literally everything. I kept my fingerbone hoop equipped, I sold off PR gear I had hoarded when officers told us to collect 300+ around Kunark release.

Infact I never even raided Trak at level 60 on Mythoxxus and still maybe twice in over 30-35 Trak attempts did I actually take an AOE. It is something that I think could be looked into, yet I also think that Trak is trivialized no matter what by the sheer amount of numbers and loot saturation present this far into Kunark.
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:35 PM
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Isn't trak dead within seconds of spawning anyhow?
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:06 PM
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ITT: no one reads my post, especially the disclaimer

A quick test by Nilbog making a gm command hotkey to spam it should be pretty revealing.

I feel like dragon fear is too easily resisted here too. Again, trivializing the ones that do.

I really just want a classic server not a loot pinata for ffs. I'm not just making shit up at random (trolling). I'm also for quite a few changes that make content harder as a result of bugs (well I'm for fixing everything but quite a few exist).
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:15 AM
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I think the problem here is that, from an outsider's perspective, it looks as if the hardcore guilds are trying to trivialize trak or conceal the fact that he's too easy, since it's mostly hardcore raiders who've responded (with the exception of Loraen I guess). I think this is the narrative Nirgon is trying to promote, because there is absolutely no basis to his claim that level 55's can resist trak's ae with ease. From the few times I've been on Trak raids on this server, I have trouble resisting the ae even at level 60 with insane bard resists. When I was in my low-mid 50's I literally never resisted it. This isn't a case of big guilds trying to cover up an exploit, this is just Nirgon trying to stroke his own ego and act as if he's a guru on classic eq by saying things we already know (like that the ae does 1200 damage. Really we needed you to tell us that, thanks Nirgon).
Nailed it.

Non factors gonna not factor.

The whole pretense of being experienced in this era as an RZ vet is laughable too. Anyone who played end game kunark-velious knows dragons stayed up for weeks at a time due to lower pop and much higher competition. The opportunity to truly test pve was therefore nonexistent. Better off lying saying you played a blue server. It would carry more weight.

On dragon roar, go ahead and try to resist 60+ dragon roar every time without base 160mr + pot + gmr + bard songs. You gettin' feared.
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Old 02-22-2013, 12:27 PM
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So to be fair I think Nirgon is a net positive force for classicness . . . . barely [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How about you post some actual logs Dullah? Ask everyone level/pr before you slaughter trak sometime.
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:17 PM
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Yeah since you're this super in the know raider (ya'll gonna make me blow my blue cover up in here, up in here, ya'll gonna make me go all out)

Post logs of you getting trucked by this many times at 400 poison as a 60.

Honestly, this can be solved by making a spammable GM hotkey, #level command and posting the logs.

It's absolutely warranted in tuning this RAID MOB OF MAJOR SIGNIFICANCE that currently, in my opinion, is a laughing stock by comparison.

I've also been on the prowl trying to determine the old Sabbat URL to use in the way back machine to prove my Trak kills and looted mana robe. Any old RZ'rs, please feel free to comment. I sported a full set of resist gear, exactly like you are wearing, was 58-60 for all my kills and clearly recall the shuffling of health bars and my death during the encounter.

I can be sent packing with a 40 second spell spam test. Feel free to tear me to shreds in RNF over it if I'm found to be promoting a bug/inaccuracy over that last few months that I've only noticed as a result of coincidence. I've had it suggested to me that perhaps levels do not count enough when considering resist ... point taken... but again with 150 poison as a 60 you shouldn't be laughing this attack off (see DB snapshot, and matching Lucy data).

Trakanon is a raid mob that everyone probably thinks of first when they think of Kunark raiding, he's also a unique model and drops some very cool shit. Why is his breath attack so gimpy? Look at what the various NPCs have to say about his breath attack :P. Please save this content.

Again, a -150 check spell coming from a mob AT LEAST 5 levels higher than a 60... life taps are a -200 check.. I'm not saying this is lure aoe lure of poison... I'm just saying you should not resist it about the same as a blue con at 60 krup shaman casting EB ... or even easier than that. Gorenaire being many times harder than Trakanon just plain old makes me sad.

This change isn't going to be some change that makes him unbeatable by any top guild on either server. It's just going to make healing a little more intense when engaged with reasonable numbers and overall a more fun fight with a better feeling of reward and accomplishment, especially as a progression kill for upcoming guilds in Kunark who really never got a chance at him. Killing Trakanon should be a badge of honor for a progression kill... filling that [x] next to slain content in a guild progression thread. Not, "lol he was up and we spammed rune and dropped this gimp".


Mayhaps a certain noble raid leader would like to come and affirm my claims

Nizzarr Silvermoon: The only Inky who can SoW ....
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100% resist rates that people are seeing should be ~350 poison, but, mind you the 255 resist caps...
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:57 PM
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found something for u Nirgon...

http://web.archive.org/web/200104271...ndex.php3?id=n
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:04 PM
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That's not the old Sabbat hours / loots listed log.
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