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Nirgon 02-20-2013 06:56 PM

Poison breath too easily resistable
 
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I've had more luck resisting Trakanon's breath than envenomed bolt from the krup shamans in seb at the same resistance levels (even without considering NPC level). This feels terribly not classic, especially when you consider the resist check that has to be made casted from a mob at least 5 levels higher than any player. It should be approximately 3 times harder to resist than EBolt if tuned correctly.

On live, this fight was a heal/cure frenzy (even afterwards!) to ensure no one dipped into low hp aggro range to get life tap gobbled by Trak.

The poison requirement shouldn't be that a lvl 55 with just a DMF and resist poison can laugh off this attack.

It should also correctly incur 1200 instant damage, fire every 30s, have 9 poison counters and last 8hrs 20mins at 150dmg a tick. Again, I'd test this but high chance of getting cussed out/gkicked or causing a wipe... not a good thing with enemy guild around :P.

Disclaimers:
1. I'm aware that he dies in second when competing blue guilds dog pile him here. It's about the content, and what I've witnessed in my experience engaging him (happy to log on these chars and prove this to devs).

2. I can't engage this mob and allow it to cast over and over for reliable testing, maybe I've just been lucky but other players certainly report the same.

quido 02-20-2013 06:58 PM

The contention that an average joe 55 can resist Trak's AE with ease is without merit.

Nirgon 02-20-2013 06:59 PM

You stick your nose elsewhere mister! This benefits you btw!

Might I add the low hp/sitting aggro are pretty close to classic and very awesome.

Splorf22 02-20-2013 11:44 PM

At least when I did Trakanon with VD he would usually land his aoe on me with 250+ PR and L60. You do realize that 1 fight with 1-2 lucky resists is not a legitimate sample, right?

Nirgon 02-21-2013 05:52 AM

That's why I'm saying it needs a GM parse.

250+ RP on a 60 yeah OK, parse it out.

Having it resist consistently on a 55 char with 120.. needs a look.

Dullah 02-21-2013 09:40 AM

For the sake of the integrity of the project, would it not be possible to just disqualify ignorant players from posting in the bugs forums when they post nothing but assumption and unsubstantiated claims?

Trak breath has hit me at 400pr multiple times, and with under 300pr it will land quite frequently, even on level 60 players. Players under 60 get wrecked by it. Could post logs of 50 trak raids, but obviously the level and pr of the players couldn't be verified, much like everything Nirgon presumes to "fix".

Rettii 02-21-2013 11:24 AM

Your mad because Nirgon is presenting data regarding possibly trivial dragon data?

All hes doing is showing some numbers and requesting a GM with a testing tool run a few tests.

Nirgon 02-21-2013 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dullah (Post 858395)
For the sake of the integrity of the project, would it not be possible to just disqualify ignorant players from posting in the bugs forums when they post nothing but assumption and unsubstantiated claims?

Trak breath has hit me at 400pr multiple times, and with under 300pr it will land quite frequently, even on level 60 players. Players under 60 get wrecked by it. Could post logs of 50 trak raids, but obviously the level and pr of the players couldn't be verified, much like everything Nirgon presumes to "fix".

Thanks for trolling, have a great day.

Yerderlayer 02-21-2013 11:43 AM

you can say what you want, but nirgon is one of the only people actively seeking out nonclassic changes that should be fixed, sure he could be wrong at times but his involvement in these bug threads is a benefit to the server

Splorf22 02-21-2013 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rettii (Post 858457)
All hes doing is showing some numbers and requesting a GM with a testing tool run a few tests.

Except this is not what he is doing at all. Everyone knows that Trak's AOE is a lure style with a -150 resist. If he were posting numbers, he would go to a trakanon raid, ask everyone for level/pr, and post the log of 'so and so is poisoned' and then have a % resist. Instead he is waving his hands in the air and saying 'this should be harder' witih 0 evidence.


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