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Old 01-23-2014, 09:58 AM
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And since we're already borderline RNFing, here's a question for you: Would Big J be trying to rule lawyer this hard if FE/IB wouldn't have gotten the last PD?
It has nothing to do with PD. Jeremy was pointing out abuse of the bag limit, which i agree. If you plan to Share the bag limit on repops then i see no problem with you all joint raiding on other targets. We have pretty much gotten over the e-peen on how many mobs you killed and how many we killed. This is a new raiding system that we are all adapting to, and trying not to get raid suspended for things that usto be in the normal. I saw the last Repop FE/IB joint raided and i /clap for you all. If thats what you all plan to do from now on i have no issue with it. Good day.
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Old 01-23-2014, 10:02 AM
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This has nothing to do with PD as the bag limits only apply to non-VP mobs. Almost anyone else would get called a moran for such a dense statement.
I'll take that as a compliment. Or maybe not, considering you know that i wasn't serious about it.

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It has nothing to do with PD. Jeremy was pointing out abuse of the bag limit, which i agree. If you plan to Share the bag limit on repops then i see no problem with you all joint raiding on other targets. We have pretty much gotten over the e-peen on how many mobs you killed and how many we killed. This is a new raiding system that we are all adapting to, and trying not to get raid suspended for things that usto be in the normal. I saw the last Repop FE/IB joint raided and i /clap for you all. If thats what you all plan to do from now on i have no issue with it. Good day.
Oh, the abuse!

I'll stop posting now and wish you gentlemen a great day.

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Old 01-23-2014, 10:03 AM
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One more time.

FE and IB are distinct guilds. They have always been distinct guilds. The only restriction either is under currently is the bag limit - i.e., when FE and IB joint raid on a repop and kill a target, that target is considered to be a +1 toward their bag limit for each guild. This applies to each and every guild that joint raids on repops, in whatever raiding class they exist.

Other than that, if FE and IB choose not to joint raid on a repop or at any other time it is their concern - not yours.
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Old 01-23-2014, 10:09 AM
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I don't see it that way and neither do a number of uninvolved parties. We'll see.
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Old 01-23-2014, 10:11 AM
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One more time.

FE and IB are distinct guilds. They have always been distinct guilds. The only restriction either is under currently is the bag limit - i.e., when FE and IB joint raid on a repop and kill a target, that target is considered to be a +1 toward their bag limit for each guild. This applies to each and every guild that joint raids on repops, in whatever raiding class they exist.

Other than that, if FE and IB choose not to joint raid on a repop or at any other time it is their concern - not yours.
You should stop trying to lawyer this, So when you guys want you joint Raid use up that bag limit. And others times you can choose to get 4 mobs since you are two distinct guilds? this is essentially what you are saying here?... I don't Care about FFA mobs, or VP mobs Joint raid it up<<<<<. I'm talking about Repops, you can't have it both ways.
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Old 01-23-2014, 10:12 AM
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Old 01-23-2014, 10:16 AM
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Yes, go on some more about how you guys are distinct guilds. I believe you that it's 99% accurate...but you do know that the chance for this double-dip bag limit to be abused both with loot sharing and alts between guilds is very high right? Especially because of the time you guys spend with each other and the mutual interest in getting numbers for raids. I'm sure IB and FE share accounts. Who else can really tell that your whistle is clean besides FE/IB leadership?

Also, this has nothing to do with VP. This has to do with getting 2x the loot outside VP because of 2 tags then taking that DISTINCT GEAR ADVANTAGE to VP and other targets with you and dominating more because of it.

I think its in TMO's interest to gear up a secondary guild at this point if this is allowed because alliances just became way more beneficial.
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Old 01-23-2014, 10:20 AM
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Yes, go on some more about how you guys are distinct guilds. I believe you that it's 99% accurate...but you do know that the chance for this double-dip bag limit to be abused both with loot sharing and alts between guilds is very high right? Especially because of the time you guys spend with each other and the mutual interest in getting numbers for raids. I'm sure IB and FE share accounts. Who else can really tell that your whistle is clean besides FE/IB leadership?

Also, this has nothing to do with VP. This has to do with getting 2x the loot outside VP because of 2 tags then taking that DISTINCT GEAR ADVANTAGE to VP and other targets with you and dominating more because of it.

I think its in TMO's interest to gear up a secondary guild at this point if this is allowed because alliances just became way more beneficial.
Who are you ?, So i can tell you to STFU? This fool in no way represents TMO's thoughts/feelings. so please procceed to the stfu corner. Gear Advantage? what are you even talking about FE/IB have proven that they are more than capable on killing VP raid targets. Stop trying to turn this into an RnF thread when this is a legitimate concern. And no TMO will not be making ANY type of alt guilds. The day they do you will see my application on FE forum boards.
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Old 01-23-2014, 10:20 AM
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You should stop trying to lawyer this, So when you guys want you joint Raid use up that bag limit. And others times you can choose to get 4 mobs since you are two distinct guilds? this is essentially what you are saying here?... I don't Care about FFA mobs, or VP mobs Joint raid it up<<<<<. I'm talking about Repops, you can't have it both ways.
There is nothing to lawyer here. The only change to repops has been the addition of a bag limit - and we adhere to the bag limit rules in the case that we raid together and in the case that we do not.

The only lawyering is on your side because, as Jeremy said, he doesnt 'see it that way'. That is great and all, but you have yet to explain why putting in a bag limit forces us to either always raid together or never raid together.

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Old 01-23-2014, 10:23 AM
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I think its in TMO's interest to gear up a secondary guild at this point if this is allowed because alliances just became way more beneficial.
An alliance is a pact, coalition or friendship between two or more parties, made in order to advance common goals and to secure common interests.

pssssst.... alliances have always been beneficial, and have always been a big part of Everquest. TMO wouldn't know, bc you guys slap every hand that has been reached out to you.

can this get moved to RnF soon?
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