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Old 05-30-2012, 09:12 PM
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It is a 50% pet exp penalty and only if your pet outdamages you, something that is much easier to remedy with a necro than a mage. Remember that an Iksar alone has a 20% penalty, something that will come into play when you try to group: people will be much more leery of you as an Iksar, and necromancers are not exactly the go-to group fillers that everyone looks for.

Enchanters now... they are powerful, and fragile, and have a feel to them all their own. You can be evil and still illusion up to go anywhere. It is harder to find a CC/Slow slot for your group at the highest levels than any other job. You will be highly sought after for exping, and you can still solo with the best of them, in a very exciting and skill-based fashion.
So what you're saying is I'm likely to be turned away as an iksar necro for groups, or is that not really an issue? I do like to solo, but I also want the possibility to be useful in groups. I don't know if enchanters are my thing though... how are druids and shamans? And is it a bad idea to roll iksar anything due to exp? Like if I rolled an iksar shaman, would it be frequent that people would take a non iksar shaman over me?
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Old 05-30-2012, 09:48 PM
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So what you're saying is I'm likely to be turned away as an iksar necro for groups, or is that not really an issue? I do like to solo, but I also want the possibility to be useful in groups. I don't know if enchanters are my thing though... how are druids and shamans? And is it a bad idea to roll iksar anything due to exp? Like if I rolled an iksar shaman, would it be frequent that people would take a non iksar shaman over me?
It will take you 20% longer to level than any other necromancer, and you take 20% more experience for your cut in a group at any level... people recognize that, even if it's subliminal; it's not a dealbreaker but it is something to consider here where people are much more knowledgeable about the mechanics. You're not 20% more powerful per level. And necromancers do not fulfill any one role in a group super nicely, which is what people generally look for in a group member.

That said, Iksars are probably the weakest shaman race in the game. They are definitely third rate. Ogres, Trolls, and Barbarians all have their own unique advantages. Iksar don't really compare without Jaundiced Bone gear or stun immunity, and Ogres have both, with less of an exp penalty.
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:07 PM
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It will take you 20% longer to level than any other necromancer, and you take 20% more experience for your cut in a group at any level... people recognize that, even if it's subliminal; it's not a dealbreaker but it is something to consider here where people are much more knowledgeable about the mechanics. You're not 20% more powerful per level. And necromancers do not fulfill any one role in a group super nicely, which is what people generally look for in a group member.

That said, Iksars are probably the weakest shaman race in the game. They are definitely third rate. Ogres, Trolls, and Barbarians all have their own unique advantages. Iksar don't really compare without Jaundiced Bone gear or stun immunity, and Ogres have both, with less of an exp penalty.
Somehow, this post is a bit discouraging. There are a lot of things from true eq I could maybe have done without...
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Old 05-31-2012, 04:27 AM
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It will take you 20% longer to level than any other necromancer, and you take 20% more experience for your cut in a group at any level... people recognize that, even if it's subliminal; it's not a dealbreaker but it is something to consider here where people are much more knowledgeable about the mechanics. You're not 20% more powerful per level. And necromancers do not fulfill any one role in a group super nicely, which is what people generally look for in a group member.

That said, Iksars are probably the weakest shaman race in the game. They are definitely third rate. Ogres, Trolls, and Barbarians all have their own unique advantages. Iksar don't really compare without Jaundiced Bone gear or stun immunity, and Ogres have both, with less of an exp penalty.
These are truths, but they will not make you less appealing to Bregan D'Aerth or otherwise most pick-up groups I have been in =)
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Old 05-31-2012, 05:03 AM
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I wouldn't worry about the hybrid penality for getting groups. Like Slave said there are very few Tanks around. I have never turned down anyone for a group based on their gear or race or hell even class on here. Like I have said before I don't think I would want 5 Iksar SK's in a group lol but it would be better than no group.

Its not like there is 50 people you can pick from. Like almost everyone of these threads end up is play what class and race you want to play. Playing a class just because you think it will be eaiser to group, or even solo sucks when you figure how much time you are going to spend on that toon to even get it to level 30 let alone 60.

No class on here is just hands down great to play or if that was the case everyone here would be playing it. Druids are the #1 class, probably Shaman #2. God knows we don't need a lot more of them but they are popular for a reason. Play what YOU want. Simple as that.

But I can tell you the hybid thingy can be a bitch at times. I was in Befallen once on my Halfling Cleric in a group of 6. I was like level 10 at the time the tank was a SK Troll level 15 and couple other hybrids in the group. I was in there for like 4 hours and only got half a level and we killed the hell out of mobs. A lot of them conned red to me. So the Hybrid penality killed me and so did having the level 15 person. I can see why some people are picky. But I had a good time. All that counts.
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