VP

[Rais]

VD doesn't have the numbers or people willing to camp out 40+ people at 1 spot for a two day period. So yes, you are right. We don't have the people willing to do this and it effects our mobilizations in beating two guilds who have people willing to do this. This isn't some big secret as to how or why any agreement between TR and VD came about.

Taken,BDA or Divnity can't kill trak. Maybe if they all worked together I think they could. They simply don't have the numbers or right classes to do it on their own.

This is the same reason DA/VD held hands before Kunark. Raid content neither guild could have done on their own. It's also the same reason why DA and TMO merged. Each guild couldn't do it on their own and had to merg to challenge with TR.

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Originally Posted by Rais [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

VD doesn't have the numbers or people willing to camp out 40+ people at 1 spot for a two day period. So yes, you are right. We don't have the people willing to do this and it effects our mobilizations in beating two guilds who have people willing to do this. This isn't some big secret as to how or why any agreement between TR and VD came about.

I didn't make out like it was a secret, I was just restating a known fact.

Originally Posted by Rais [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Taken,BDA or Divnity can't kill trak. Maybe if they all worked together I think they could. They simply don't have the numbers or right classes to do it on their own.

Hmm, maybe you're right on this one. I've seen BDA out mobilize TR on fay so i was mostly throwing them a bone. Taken has done some nice things in the past and had some large showings, but i am by no means up to par on their membership status. As far as Divinity, if they had all their members still playing, I suppose they could, but recently I haven't seen many of them online. So most likely, I stand corrected.

Originally Posted by Rais [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the same reason DA/VD held hands before Kunark. Raid content neither guild could have done on their own. It's also the same reason why DA and TMO merged. Each guild couldn't do it on their own and had to merg to challenge with TR.

The main thing to point on on this last part, is that there has never been a raid agreement before where 2 guilds competed as 1. In all honestly, both guilds should have been treated as one due to the fact they have, over the course of the last 2 months, raided as 1 guild. The only slight difference is that the "upper tier" part of the raiding guild is only allowed access to VP atm (with this agreement).

Maybe I missed the point of this, but it mostly seems that you are agreeing with me (aside from the taken, bda, divinity part).