Questioning GM Decisions

[Slave]

Originally Posted by mwatt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the guest should depart or simply keep quiet if the issue is small enough.

Unfortunately for both you and the server, the issue is the largest that P99 has ever faced, and likely will ever face.

I've seen this happen time and time again with other games and even other emus. Unless the cheaters are removed, they will continue to cause major economic and political problems for P99. You cannot reason with them, and you cannot appease them... all they want is an advantage over other people, and they don't care how they get it; this is an attitude that is completely inimical to a well-run server.

An item removal or ban on their accounts would go a long, long way toward punishing them, as opposed to basically copping out and changing their stance on cheating to "well, it's like 15% of the player base, so we'd better not ban them or we'll get less donations."

Sorry, but many of the rest of us noticed what the rules were from day 1 because we made knowing and following them a priority. Most of us are quieter than the cheaters, but some of us have a few minutes to spare in our game's forums to speak out against what we feel is a terrible flaw in judgement.

[mwatt]

Originally Posted by Slave [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unfortunately for both you and the server, the issue is the largest that P99 has ever faced, and likely will ever face.

I've seen this happen time and time again with other games and even other emus. Unless the cheaters are removed, they will continue to cause major economic and political problems for P99. You cannot reason with them, and you cannot appease them... all they want is an advantage over other people, and they don't care how they get it; this is an attitude that is completely inimical to a well-run server.

An item removal or ban on their accounts would go a long, long way toward punishing them, as opposed to basically copping out and changing their stance on cheating to "well, it's like 15% of the player base, so we'd better not ban them or we'll get less donations."

Sorry, but many of the rest of us noticed what the rules were from day 1 because we made knowing and following them a priority. Most of us are quieter than the cheaters, but some of us have a few minutes to spare in our game's forums to speak out against what we feel is a terrible flaw in judgement.

You are over dramatizing this whole thing IMO. They caught cheaters, they punished them. They went lighter than they had said they would but they won't do so again. As for asking them to change what they have done or go back on what they have said... this is unlikely. It is not a good idea for people in charge of something to bow to pressure from the people affected. Sometimes you should, but as a rule, it tends to lessen authority and inivite further such incidents and pretty soon its all a huge mess.

Just my two cents. In the end, I suspect this will end up being little more than a tempest in a teacup.

Oh, and for the record, I do not cheat and did not cheat. I have never even cheated on a test in school. So I do believe in the straight and narrow and it is how I conduct myself. However, I also believe in being practical. The world is not black and white when you start dealing in more than simple scenarios. Finally, based on what they have done, I believe in the people who run this server. Not that I expect perfection - they are human. Not that I expect everything to be totally fair all the time - I have too much life experience to think that way.