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Old 07-24-2025, 12:00 PM
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Ugh A4. I camped A4 for 3 days as a shaman. Was able to kill Twenty-Two A4 about 50% of the time (depended on reslow landing)

The twins and Twenty-Two were rough fights. Esp as shaman, having to keep one of the twins rooted while killing the other.

After all that jazz, about a dozen kills of each of the mobs - I got one Black Throne and that's it.

I guess A4 is good if you Work From Home and can keep the camp over the 72 minute spawn, but thats a pretty privelaged position to be in,
Wow you got a throne. The worst throne,but better than I ever did.
22 is a pain but I never found the twins to be too bad,as an enchanter though. I remember some 22 fights where he resisted a mana bar full of slows.
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Old 07-24-2025, 12:11 PM
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The twins and Twenty-Two were rough fights. Esp as shaman, having to keep one of the twins rooted while killing the other.
You don't have to fight both twins at once. Root one in the room, then lead the second one back to the rat room. Root him, camp, and come back.

Most of the time when you come back he'll have broken root and be on his way back to his original room, but if you agro him you can then fight him seperately in the hallway (or wherever he is).

As for 22, a lot of the time I didn't even bother doing him, but when I did the key was to run around a lot until slow landed.
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Old 07-24-2025, 12:47 PM
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You don't have to fight both twins at once. Root one in the room, then lead the second one back to the rat room. Root him, camp, and come back.

Most of the time when you come back he'll have broken root and be on his way back to his original room, but if you agro him you can then fight him seperately in the hallway (or wherever he is).

As for 22, a lot of the time I didn't even bother doing him, but when I did the key was to run around a lot until slow landed.
Did some tests in HS and it seemed like when you camp aggro they get stripped of root. I'd apply a fresh fetter (180sec), camp out and log in immediately and the mobs would be gone.

I guess if you pull them far enough you can catch them before they fully walk back but you can't bank on root staying on.
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Old 07-24-2025, 12:58 PM
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Did some tests in HS and it seemed like when you camp aggro they get stripped of root. I'd apply a fresh fetter (180sec), camp out and log in immediately and the mobs would be gone.

I guess if you pull them far enough you can catch them before they fully walk back but you can't bank on root staying on.
Yeah. I think there might be a chance that the root stays a few seconds (I've never tested), but even if not, as I said there's enough room. I haven't been back to A4 in years, but I remember not even needing to get to the A3 hallway: if you just root him in Grink's (Gronk's? The rat's) room, then ...

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when you come back he'll have broken root and be on his way back to his original room, but if you agro him you can then fight him seperately in the hallway (or wherever he is).
Maybe not 100% of the time; I think rarely I'd get back and he'd have made it into agro range with his buddy, so I'd have to do it all over ... but most of the time.
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Old 07-24-2025, 12:58 PM
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Did some tests in HS and it seemed like when you camp aggro they get stripped of root. I'd apply a fresh fetter (180sec), camp out and log in immediately and the mobs would be gone.

I guess if you pull them far enough you can catch them before they fully walk back but you can't bank on root staying on.
Yeah root breaks very often on camp. You usually need snare instead. On Shaman best bet is Spear of Constriction, but you need to raid VP for that. The Innoruuk necklace only lasts 6 ticks, so it will wear off once you finish camping.

Can also farm some of this item https://wiki.project1999.com/Ball_of_Burlap_Yarn since it isn't lore.
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Old 07-24-2025, 03:06 PM
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I don't want to argue over semantics but I'm not sure it breaks, pretty sure it just gets wiped because I did a couple tries of fetter on tashed and green trash and it never held, when it otherwise rarely breaks. Not sure if it is a root or debuff thing to prevent people logging onto another toon and benefit from debuffs. IIRC it holds when zoning (snaring near zoneline and zoneing out/in to split) but on camp, not sure.
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Old 07-24-2025, 03:31 PM
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I don't want to argue over semantics but I'm not sure it breaks, pretty sure it just gets wiped because I did a couple tries of fetter on tashed and green trash and it never held, when it otherwise rarely breaks. Not sure if it is a root or debuff thing to prevent people logging onto another toon and benefit from debuffs. IIRC it holds when zoning (snaring near zoneline and zoneing out/in to split) but on camp, not sure.
Snare holds when you camp but yes, root breaks when you camp. It happens 100% of the time. If you see a mob still at the root spot when you log back in, its just because it hasnt started pathing back yet.

It's kind of a fun game as a shaman trying to split mobs in Sebilis - root one in camp, root one around the corner, and root one in the kill spot. Log back in and hopefully the kill-spot mob hasnt pathed back into LoS of the others. If so, try again.

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Old 07-24-2025, 04:00 PM
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It's kind of a fun game as a shaman trying to split mobs in Sebilis - root one in camp, root one around the corner, and root one in the kill spot. Log back in and hopefully the kill-spot mob hasnt pathed back into LoS of the others. If so, try again.

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Doing it in PoM is mildly annoying: doing it in Seb is somewhat crazy. Respect [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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