Question about SF camp

[Legidias]

The reason why people dont have to respond is that, while some camps are 6 min or 30 min spawns, others are 2, 4, or 18+ hours

[Izmael]

If noone replies to an OOC camp check, get a See Invis and run around the SF pop area to see if anyone is there hidden or invis. Wolf form can be hard to see on snow.

If you're positive there's nobody, claim the camp, otherwise ask them to get on the list.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, you have to deal with that kind of thing when there's more than a dozen people playing.

That made me LOL [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Legidias]

I always imagine some country boy where its just the farm for hundreds of acres where visiting his next door neighbor takes like 3 weeks on foot.

"Goin to the city always reminds me of how many people there are. Can you believe they actually have stop signs AND FOLLOW THEM?!?!"

[soronil]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Though, any single spawn point can be claimed, that is the only spawn you can hunt (if being contested). If you are to claim this point you must get aggro/First to Encounter (FTE) within a reasonable amount of time..

I think the most obvious way to interpret that is "no mob is camped until someone has killed it recently; otherwise all mobs are FTE."

Seriously dude? you just added bold to part of the sentence and ignore the next 6 words which completely changes the meaning completely. Let's retry:

If you are to claim this point you must get aggro/First to Encounter (FTE) within a reasonable amount of time..

That does not mean that the camp is FTE if no one last killed the mob. It means that if the mob is up an unreasonable amount of time, you lose your rights to the camp.

I don't see any official word differentiating the concepts of "killed the last spawn" and "first person at the camp". I would go as far as to say you can completely remove "killed the last spawn" from the equation 99.9% of the time, since it is implicit that, if the person that killed the last spawn is still at the camp, they are the first person at the camp. (notable exceptions including someone KS'd your last spawn)

I just don't see any evidence/basis for your argument.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by soronil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seriously dude? you just added bold to part of the sentence and ignore the next 6 words which completely changes the meaning completely.

I was highlighting the important part. Look, you can argue with me all you want, but I don't make the rules. All I do is copy what the GMs say to the wiki, and then rearrange the relevant parts into a single place (the Camp Rules page).

As for everything else you wrote ... I:

Originally Posted by soronil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just don't see any evidence/basis for your argument.

You didn't provide a single quote, let alone one where a GM says "this is how you take a camp without killing a mob". And that doesn't surprise me: I took the time to compile staff rules quotes awhile back (see http://wiki.project1999.com/Rulings), and none of them mention anything about taking camps for mobs you haven't killed.

Also, to be clear, like many of my wiki projects I started the Camp Rules page because I saw certain forum threads being repeated, and I thought a wiki page would be a better solution to share the information. I did not do it because I have any personal stake in interpreting any specific ruling in any particular way. Everyone is welcome to interpret what I assemble however they wish.

Ultimately, neither you nor I will know for sure if you're correct unless A) a GM shows up in this thread, or B) you get into a camp fight and petition. Until one of those two things happens, all anyone can do is speculate.