I got into an argument with a friend at a LAN party...

[Tupakk]

Well this thread got rekt

[Cecily]

Didn't read any replies, but if I was handling this dispute as a guide.. A group dragging mobs over a camp which end up agroing another group has, in essence, trained the second group and the second group has every right to defend themselves. This only applies if the second group wasn't deliberately peeling agro. In that case the second group is KSing.

Really not good form to pull mobs over another group.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A similar case of this was one time grouped at Mistmoore at the castle entrance. Zone was busy, as Mistmoore is.

A group of 6 appears that decides without saying anything they're going to move inside the castle entrance and pull where the first 2 gargoyles spawn. I continue pulling (on my SK), then start getting shitty messages from them. Short of rooting they try to do everything to aggro every mob I'm pulling so they can say it attacked them, but after 2-3 disease clouds you aren't pulling it off, sorry...

Anyway they ended up pulling the bigger room with the negotiator room in, but taking it through the back entrance past 4 gargoyles and the gypsies...and wipe themselves. Obviously its instinctive when that hits for some of hte group to try and zone. So all these mobs come past us as the biggest dbag among them tries to escape, and dies.

They path back, we dismantle it as we were in good shape and we get petitioned for

1. Training them.
2. Kill stealing.

So to recap. A group moves in, pulls the mobs we were pulling, tries to aggro mobs we had already pulled, trains out and wipes, then petitions us for killing "their" mobs.

That's who you're dealing with on blue server sometimes. In terms of the context of this thread - they moved in ahead of us knowing we were pulling from in there. Despite careful pulling, it creates a shit show.

While people criticize swish. This post is spot on.

I've had this happen a few times to me and overall it's a huge grey area whether it's malicious or accidental. Both look the same. I dunno how a GM would look at this. Its prolly almost case by case. Just don't do nothing you don't want a GM to see. If a group continues to pull thru you then maybe move to a diff spot /shrug. I think if they aggro you it's fair game to protect yourself and if the other group wanted them bad enough the puller would sink more aggro into them as to not lose the mob to sit aggro.

On the other side if your fighting in an area that could have traffic you might wanna re-eval the fight spot. But shit happens.

[Ivah]

Originally Posted by Doctor Jeff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your first argument is that swish is a jerk, cool I agree, let's ignore that.

Your second argument is that you get rekt by twinks trying to level repeatedly which completely false, but a common fear that is reinforced in potential new players by way of confirmation bias in these types of threads.

You're missing the point of my posts which is that you are making shit up just as much as Swish.

These are grown men who cry, bitch and struggle over a 18 year old AI. They will never understand the intellegence you are blessing upon them.

[fadetree]

What's really annoying is that in any thread where somebody is having a problem caused by somebody else, swish and a few others will ALWAYS try to derail it by talking about red in a blue post on a blue forum. They are often successful, as in this thread. I don't care whether they are right or wrong or post like f-ing socrates, SHUT.THE.F*CK.UP.ABOUT.RED.
It's been going on for years, and it hasn't changed Red's pop one bit. All it does is annoy blue players, and should be considered trolling at this point.

[Doctor Jeff]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What's really annoying is that in any thread where somebody is having a problem caused by somebody else, swish and a few others will ALWAYS try to derail it by talking about red in a blue post on a blue forum. They are often successful, as in this thread. I don't care whether they are right or wrong or post like f-ing socrates, SHUT.THE.F*CK.UP.ABOUT.RED.
It's been going on for years, and it hasn't changed Red's pop one bit. All it does is annoy blue players, and should be considered trolling at this point.

Vidar is the one that brought up red, and everything he said about it was false.