This is retarded

[zanderklocke]

I'm confused on how lazy aggro would affect bard kiting like you've stated in your post. If I've read your posts correctly, the mobs reset if you get too far away?

A bard doesn't really ever need to get far away from the mobs when pulling mobs.

[Gaffin 7.0]

i dont think aggro is any different, just pathing tbh

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm confused on how lazy aggro would affect bard kiting like you've stated in your post. If I've read your posts correctly, the mobs reset if you get too far away?

A bard doesn't really ever need to get far away from the mobs when pulling mobs.

People think lazy aggro was quite large but it wasn't, they only think that because they were running and the mob they were trying to zone from was also running, they were probably using J-Boots which is not significantly faster than mobs. If they had rooted the mob so it wasn't running then run from it they would have found it didn't aggro back onto them very far from where they rooted it.

Now bards typically going to go out and grab a bunch of non-caster mobs because the caster mobs stop and cast and lose aggro, bard keeps kiting and the mob doesn't chase as its out of chase range, mob goes walking back to its spawn area passing hate to all other mobs on the way which then walk around doing the same to other mobs, chain aggro, including other casters that snare root nuke.

Bard comes back around and suddenly has a shit-ton of rooting, nuking, snaring casters he never pulled on him and dies.

On P1999, that' doesn't happen because the casters continue chasing him if he happens to grab one accidentally.

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by Ikonoclastia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People think lazy aggro was quite large but it wasn't, they only think that because they were running and the mob they were trying to zone from was also running, they were probably using J-Boots which is not significantly faster than mobs. If they had rooted the mob so it wasn't running then run from it they would have found it didn't aggro back onto them very far from where they rooted it.

Now bards typically going to go out and grab a bunch of non-caster mobs because the caster mobs stop and cast and lose aggro, bard keeps kiting and the mob doesn't chase as its out of chase range, mob goes walking back to its spawn area passing hate to all other mobs on the way which then walk around doing the same to other mobs, chain aggro, including other casters that snare root nuke.

Bard comes back around and suddenly has a shit-ton of rooting, nuking, snaring casters he never pulled on him and dies.

On P1999, that' doesn't happen because the casters continue chasing him if he happens to grab one accidentally.

One more thing:

Special Circumstances: Aggro and Distance (Kiting) #15 [-]
One newer piece of code is based on kiting, or rather, what is called anti-kiting code. Just as sitting down closer to a monster versus further away gets a monster more peeved off, a monster who is pissed off at you may eventually give up chasing you if you get too far away and wander back where it came from. This means to successfully kite you must stay far enough away that the monster doesn't hit you but not so far the monster quits chasing you. However, the side effect, if a monster choses to give up the chase, is that the monster still remembers he hated you; and from that moment on he will spread his hatred of you to every friend he meets; and much like a shampoo commercial, they shall tell their friends, and their friends….. if you lose monster while kiting, it is always prudent to zone out to clear the hate lists before you suddenly find yourself unexpectedly swarmed with hordes of unknown admirers.

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