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Old 01-20-2014, 07:23 PM
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That's not how experience works. Groups do not get exp penalties, players do. Experience distributed is based on exp totals, not level, not race, not class. Experience totals. Read this:

http://wiki.project1999.com/Game_Mec...perience_Works
I love how people say this and then go "see, it's not a penalty".

Right, the pie is the same size. Just that troll shadowknight who is the same level as you happens to be eating more than you.

Yes, having a high penalty character in your group causes you to get less xp per kill then if a same level non/low penalty character were in the group.

That said, nobody seems to realize that an iksar monk has a higher penalty than any ranger/paladin/bard (44% vs 40%) and in practice it isn't much of a big deal. Especially for SKs & Paladins who bring great utility (snap agro).

Rangers get the short end of the stick since most of their utility isn't needed in a group and they can't really even do more damage then a warrior 50+ cause they have lower offensive/weapon skill caps.
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Old 01-20-2014, 07:48 PM
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I love how people say this and then go "see, it's not a penalty".

Right, the pie is the same size. Just that troll shadowknight who is the same level as you happens to be eating more than you.

Yes, having a high penalty character in your group causes you to get less xp per kill then if a same level non/low penalty character were in the group.

That said, nobody seems to realize that an iksar monk has a higher penalty than any ranger/paladin/bard (44% vs 40%) and in practice it isn't much of a big deal. Especially for SKs & Paladins who bring great utility (snap agro).

Rangers get the short end of the stick since most of their utility isn't needed in a group and they can't really even do more damage then a warrior 50+ cause they have lower offensive/weapon skill caps.
The wiki article clearly states "Group with people who have similar xp totals to you" and says it 3 times over to hammer the point home. If a group of 55's invites a 50-52 SK/PAL, the exp totals will be similar and the distribution will be equal. If a group of 52's invite a 54 SK/PAL, the hybrid will get a large chunk of experience. In the second scenario, it would be like inviting a 58-60 warrior. Use common sense. If you wouldn't invite a level 58-60 warrior because you think you'd get less experience due to his higher experience total, then don't invite the level 54 troll sk. Being informed is better than being ignorant.
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Old 01-20-2014, 07:56 PM
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The wiki article clearly states "Group with people who have similar xp totals to you" and says it 3 times over to hammer the point home. If a group of 55's invites a 50-52 SK/PAL, the exp totals will be similar and the distribution will be equal. If a group of 52's invite a 54 SK/PAL, the hybrid will get a large chunk of experience. In the second scenario, it would be like inviting a 58-60 warrior. Use common sense. If you wouldn't invite a level 58-60 warrior because you think you'd get less experience due to his higher experience total, then don't invite the level 54 troll sk. Being informed is better than being ignorant.
And this equates to not being a penalty how? I'm not saying people shouldn't be grouping with people just because of experience penalties but you keep insisting that the group is not being penalized when they are clearly sharing in the penalty.
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Old 01-20-2014, 08:21 PM
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And this equates to not being a penalty how? I'm not saying people shouldn't be grouping with people just because of experience penalties but you keep insisting that the group is not being penalized when they are clearly sharing in the penalty.
If they've grouped with someone who has a similar exp total, how are they sharing the penalty since the exp will be distributed evenly?
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If they've grouped with someone who has a similar exp total, how are they sharing the penalty since the exp will be distributed evenly?
He literally already explained this, go up a few posts and read it.
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Old 01-20-2014, 09:01 PM
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He literally already explained this, go up a few posts and read it.
What he posted was an example of characters with very different experience totals but similar levels. "Group with players who have similar exp totals"
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