How deal with the insane run speed of mobs

[Lazortag]

How is it different from classic then? Were PC's slower in classic too? What best describes the run speed of PC's/NPC's in classic?

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is it different from classic then? Were PC's slower in classic too? What best describes the run speed of PC's/NPC's in classic?

Mobs in classic, as a general rule, were about 5-10 percent faster than you. Here, they're about 15-20 percent faster. sow has a base run speed increase of 34-55 percent, based the level of the caster (not the recipient).

Some mobs were slower. I know for a fact that beetle-type mobs were a hair slower than PC's in classic.

As has already been mentioned, jumping made you faster as long as your stamina held. A neat trick is to jump from hills to get more air time on the jump and get a greater boost - but don't do this on too steep of a hill, because you'll take fall damage - sometimes quite a bit of it (i.e. sand dunes with steep dropoffs in Nro/Oasis/Sro).

[Tallenn]

I've never heard proof that agility affects run speed. I think the idea probably comes from how encumberance works: if you are encumbered, that DOES affect your run speed, and it also lowers your agility. I think that because of that people started incorrectly associating agility with run speed.

However, that's neither here nor there. Mobs DO run faster on P99 than classic- I don't think that's in dispute. There is a more annoying, relate bissue though: mob WALK speed. Mobs in P99 walk around like they are late for a meeting, or something. If I sic my pet on one that's walking away from, it will cross half the zone before my (running) pet gets close enough to agro it. Watch a mob walking- they seem to glide along, because they are moving far faster than their walking animation appears it should move them. On a similar note, mobs that flee, whether from low hitpoints or some kind of fear affect, also move far too quickly.

[Lazortag]

I'm 99% certain that agility affects runspeed. I have to encumber myself down to 76 agility to be able to kite spectres properly. I sometimes do this by taking off equipment that gives agility bonuses, like gilded cloth, but then again that also gives a strength bonus, so I suppose it's possible I'm wrong. But I do remember taking off elf-hide gloves to lower agility and that working to make my runspeed the level I wanted it (though I could remember wrongly, it just seems unlikely to me).

[Itchybottom]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm 99% certain that agility affects runspeed. I have to encumber myself down to 76 agility to be able to kite spectres properly. I sometimes do this by taking off equipment that gives agility bonuses, like gilded cloth, but then again that also gives a strength bonus, so I suppose it's possible I'm wrong. But I do remember taking off elf-hide gloves to lower agility and that working to make my runspeed the level I wanted it (though I could remember wrongly, it just seems unlikely to me).

The only thing that will affect a players run speed, in a legit scenario is:

Low hit points
Encumbrance
Movement effects (snare, spirit of wolf, etc)

[Lazortag]

Huh. If that's true then I should be working on getting a perfect ratio of encumbrance (162/99 is the one I use) rather than working on getting the Agi to the level that the 162/99 encumbrance gives me.

Will a ratio of 18/11 encumber me the same amount as 162/99?