Attention All Item Loot Fans

[dogbarf]

Originally Posted by dogbarf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rallos Zek had by far the largest population of any of the Zeks pre-Merge. (300+ in Bazaar vs Sullons ~70.)

Originally Posted by Potus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You probably shouldn't be telling people to stop posting. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its like you can't even read. I mention the bazaar and pre-zek merge population and you post a picture from 2001. The funny thing is the picture you post contradicts everything you say about item loot killing population. In your chosen snapshot we see rallos with 27 less players than Vallon. HOLY FUCKING SHIT. ITEM LOOT IS KILLED THE POP. I bet those 1677 players are all naked wizards. LOL.

[Potus]

Originally Posted by dogbarf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its like you can't even read. I mention the bazaar and pre-zek merge population and you post a picture from 2001. The funny thing is the picture you post contradicts everything you say about item loot killing population. In your chosen snapshot we see rallos with 27 less players than Vallon. HOLY FUCKING SHIT. ITEM LOOT IS KILLED THE POP. I bet those 1677 players are all naked wizards. LOL.

Look at that backpeddle. That pic is pre-merge, so your attempt to flip flop failed. You mention the bazaar because you never played during item loot and don't know what you're talking about.

Also 3524 is more than 1677. When Tallon launched so many people joined it Verant had to take it down and open Vallon a week later. Both servers kept crashing for a month from overpopulation while Rallos bled players. When Sullon opened the population on Rallos dropped even more.

Stop posting.

[dogbarf]

Originally Posted by Potus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look at that backpeddle. That pic is pre-merge, so your attempt to flip flop failed.

Nah dawg this is what backpeddle looks like:

Originally Posted by Potus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You risk absolutely nothing being a naked caster and ganging up on people with items.

Originally Posted by Potus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hah you think there's no risk in regular pvp. I guess you enjoy medding to full, corpse runs, and being camped. I mean there's no penalty for dying right now, it's why no one ever gates, plugs, or fights back. Dying is fun. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't twist any words. You really are just that stupid.

Originally Posted by Potus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When Tallon launched so many people joined it Verant had to take it down and open Vallon a week later. Both servers kept crashing for a month from overpopulation.

What did Tallon and Vallon Zek have at launch? Oh thats fucking right, Item loot.
If anything you should keep posting you are making some great points on why item loot will work.

[Rheon]

Originally Posted by dogbarf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What did Tallon and Vallon Zek have at launch? Oh thats fucking right, Item loot.
If anything you should keep posting you are making some great points on why item loot will work.

Hey! new player here on red99 and loving it so far! Just a FYI, i played on RZ from release and there was always Item loot from day 1 on RZ but!..the 1 major change made early on was that players could no longer loot weapons from their defeated opponents, only 1 tradable item and any coin the person had on them. A weapon could only be looted from a person if he/she was disarmed and it fell into an open slot in their inventory in a situation where a player wasn't carrying a full set of bags.

Another problem was that when players hit the level cap they quite often had a full set of NO DROP items and armor which made it pointless killing them if you were only doing it to gank someone for loot drops. Most PvP battles were the result of wars between guilds or fighting over rare spawns or raid boss spawns which made for a very competitive server.

Most players simply learned to bag their items that were dropable if they were in danger of being defeated by another player. Red99 server is very close to how things were on RZ back in the day minus the no item loot rule set for PvP.

[Potus]

Originally Posted by dogbarf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah dawg this is what backpeddle looks like:

I didn't twist any words. You really are just that stupid.

Aww poor baby has to keep posting the same quotes taken out of context because his argument is bad. A bloo bloo. Q.Q

What did Tallon and Vallon Zek have at launch? Oh thats fucking right, Item loot.
If anything you should keep posting you are making some great points on why item loot will work.

And guess what happened? Tallon took item loot off, and tons of people moved there. Then Vallon took item loot off and it stopped hemorrhaging players. You'd know this if you actually played the game. Verant realized item loot was shit and imbalanced and not right in a game like EQ and took it off. Notice they didn't put item loot on Sullon Zek.

Fact remains you can't argue that item loot is super imbalanced toward casters, that melees don't want to play item loot servers, and that it was deeply unpopular and taken off all the EQ PvP servers for a reason. But please, please, please, keep posting!