Silentfist and Ashenhand Discs

[TheFishyOne]

Do these discs serve any meaningful purpose? They are a Monk's 59 & 60 discs respectively, but work for abilities weaker than Flying Kick. Do a Silentfist Tail Rake and Ashenhand Eagle Strike hit harder than a Thunderkick Flying Kick? Does the Ashenhand Eagle Strike hit harder than the Silentfist Tail Rake? If you have an answer, or numbers, please post!