Does AC do anything on this server???

[Shamanx]

Originally Posted by Null [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess what I am asking is IF a melee and a caster had the same stats, weapon and skills, would the melee still hit on average harder than the caster?

If everything was similar across the board, I believe the damage would be even, sans double attack. There was a good reason Rod of Annihilation was removed from the game.

[Salty]

Originally Posted by Sprinkle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

real devs would take 5 people and conduct a test

5 warriors same weapons and make a parse of them dpsing a mob

then a shaman with banded

then another war

then a caster

then change weapons and repeat

keep healing the target to parse for 10 mins , average results

then do a 2hs weapon , on all classes , front and back of target

then try a mob

then try piercing weapons

then try different armors

and do hundreds of these tests

instead they just gave us a broken server and said here you go here is a cookie let us know how it is

then they take third hand info and make a lol decision and do something once every 2 weeks

what did you guys expect

Sprinkle got banned for this post.

I call Nazi shenanigans.

[chuck]

Guineapig sighting?

[PVPBetaChamps]

thank god

[mimixownzall]

Originally Posted by Null [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I literally touched nothing in the mitigation code because I figured testing done by players on beta would provide much better results than anything I could do by myself. In the small amount of mitigation testing I did before betas release it appeared that AC was having an impact on damage.

Nothing was said prior to the event about AC or mitigation in general and the resist code was getting mostly positive feedback aside from 'its not classic'. We dumped large amounts of high level gear into the population, shifting people out of low-medium gear levels into best in slot situations and dregs freak out because shit isn't working flawlessly.

Thats the whole damn point of beta guys, you need to chill the fuck out.

We are, Null, we are just trying to provide some info but the doomsayers (VZTZ fanbois) keep butting in with their tin-foil hats thinking we are trashing you (well, maybe tmoney is) but lovely and I have been nothing but positive.

The simple fact is that out of the people who played beta hard core there were like a handful of melee around. That is not your fault. There simply weren't enough melee testers to get anything done in the melee/ac department.

[Treats]

Originally Posted by Null [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The goal of that log was to see if AC and ATK were having a noticeable impact damage output, not to actually figure out what the gains were (hence the small sample). All that it needs to show is that the ranger (or rogue or warrior in the other logs) were getting an increase in damage output from large differences in AC and ATK.

The big thing that I am noticing is that AC and ATK is pretty constant among players (probably due to wearing a bunch of resist gear). I do not remember a whole hell of a lot about AC and ATK numbers from back then. Was this the case and if it was, did the weapon/defensive skills seperate melee classes from casters or was there an underline mechanic in place that made sure melees hit harder than casters?

I guess what I am asking is IF a melee and a caster had the same stats, weapon and skills, would the melee still hit on average harder than the caster?

Yes, defensive skill separated AC on different classes. First you have to understand how AC was actually determined. There are two different values on AC. Mitigation and Avoidance.

Avoidance works the same for all classes. The same numbers are used no matter if you are a Monk or an Enchanter. The only difference is having a HIGHER defensive skill. Here is the formula (T is Agility):

Avoidance = (T from table) + (Defense * 16/9), but never less than 0

Mitigation is a lot different. Melee have a different bonus applied to RAW AC than Casters do. It is also different for spell buffs. Defense skill is also calculated differently. Formula:

Caster Mitigation = (Buffs/3) + (Defense/2) + (Equipment + 1)
Melee Mitigation = (Buffs/4) + (Defense/3) + (Equipment * 4/3)

It is also important to note that there was NO SOFTCAP on AC until after Velious, only the Hardcap.

I made a pretty extensive post here trying to explain how AC should work. This should be able to help you with most of your questions about it. I have to agree that it should be fixed before the PVP server is made live.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=48312

[Lovely]

To long didn't read. But it seems like you guys got it handled good job Treats [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Knuckle]

Originally Posted by nerfed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nerfed - 50 cleric (717 armor 759 attack )
Slayer - 50 ranger (719 armor and 909 attack)
Same weapon (Enameled Black Mace 8dmg/28dly). Ranger has fire beetle in off hand.

[Tue Nov 01 18:05:46 2011] You crush Slayer for 16 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:05:46 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:05:48 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 24 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:05:48 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 27 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:05:49 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but Slayer dodges!
[Tue Nov 01 18:05:50 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:05:50 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 33 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:05:52 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 10 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:05:52 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:05:52 2011] You crush Slayer for 10 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:05:52 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:05:54 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:05:55 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:05:58 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 36 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:05:58 2011] You crush Slayer for 18 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:05:58 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:05:58 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:05:58 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 34 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:00 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 21 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:00 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:02 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 33 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:03 2011] You crush Slayer for 3 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:03 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:04 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:06 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:06 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:08 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 17 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:09 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:11 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 33 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:11 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:12 2011] You crush Slayer for 15 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:12 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:13 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:13 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 31 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:15 2011] You crush Slayer for 6 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:15 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:15 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 15 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:17 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:17 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:19 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 24 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:20 2011] You crush Slayer for 23 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:20 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:21 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 19 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:23 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 20 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:23 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:23 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:25 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 24 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:26 2011] You crush Slayer for 16 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:26 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:27 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:29 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:29 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:31 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 18 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:31 2011] You crush Slayer for 7 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:31 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:33 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:33 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 34 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:34 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:35 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:35 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 15 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:37 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:37 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 18 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:37 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 28 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:39 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 14 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:40 2011] You crush Slayer for 3 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:40 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:41 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 24 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:41 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:43 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:44 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 24 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:44 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:45 2011] You crush Slayer for 7 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:45 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:46 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:48 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 24 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:48 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 27 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:48 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but Slayer ripostes!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:50 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 36 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:50 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 16 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:51 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:52 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:52 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:54 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 13 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:54 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:56 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:57 2011] You crush Slayer for 10 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:57 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:58 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:06:58 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 24 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:00 2011] You crush Slayer for 16 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:00 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:02 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 22 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:02 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 24 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:02 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:04 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 20 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:04 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 18 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:05 2011] You crush Slayer for 22 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:05 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:06 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 18 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:08 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:08 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 31 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:10 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 27 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:10 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:11 2011] You crush Slayer for 10 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:11 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:12 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:14 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but Slayer dodges!
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:14 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 32 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:14 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 25 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:16 2011] You crush Slayer for 19 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:16 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:17 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 25 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:19 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:19 2011] You crush Slayer for 8 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:19 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:21 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:21 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 19 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:22 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:23 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 24 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:23 2011] Your resist poison fades.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:25 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:25 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:27 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 16 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:28 2011] You crush Slayer for 19 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:28 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:29 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 14 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:29 2011] Your resist disease fades.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:30 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but Slayer dodges!
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:31 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 19 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:33 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 13 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:33 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:35 2011] Your resist magic fades.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:35 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 24 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:35 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 22 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:36 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 24 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:36 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but Slayer ripostes!
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:37 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 36 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:07:37 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 27 points of damage.

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Nerfed - 50 cleric (634 armor 759 attack )
Slayer - 50 ranger (719 armor and 1073 attack)

[Tue Nov 01 18:15:37 2011] You crush Slayer for 16 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:37 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:37 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 24 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:39 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:40 2011] You crush Slayer for 16 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:40 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:42 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 38 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:42 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:42 2011] You crush Slayer for 11 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:42 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:44 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 14 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:45 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:46 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 15 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:48 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 42 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:48 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 29 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:48 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but Slayer ripostes!
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:50 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 23 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:51 2011] You crush Slayer for 16 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:51 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:52 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 24 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:52 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:54 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:54 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 23 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:54 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 33 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:56 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 38 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:56 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:58 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 24 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:59 2011] You crush Slayer for 16 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:15:59 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:00 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 10 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:02 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but Slayer dodges!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:02 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:04 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:04 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:05 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:06 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 15 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:06 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 20 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:08 2011] You crush Slayer for 16 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:08 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:08 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 24 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:10 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 31 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:10 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 22 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:11 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:12 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 30 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:13 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:15 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 31 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:16 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:17 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 30 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:17 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 18 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:19 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 21 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:19 2011] You crush Slayer for 15 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:19 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:21 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 37 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:22 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:23 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 20 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:25 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but Slayer parries!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:25 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 36 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:27 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:27 2011] You crush Slayer for 2 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:27 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:29 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 24 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:29 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 38 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:30 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:31 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 16 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:34 2011] You crush Slayer for 14 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:34 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:34 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 39 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:34 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 26 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:35 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 19 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:35 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:36 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:37 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 29 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:37 2011] Slayer tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:39 2011] You crush Slayer for 17 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:39 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:39 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 36 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:39 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 20 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:41 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 39 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:41 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:43 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 32 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:43 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 38 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:44 2011] You crush Slayer for 16 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:44 2011] YOU are pierced by thorns!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:45 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 27 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:45 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:47 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but miss!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:47 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 30 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:47 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 21 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:50 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 39 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:50 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 31 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:50 2011] You try to crush Slayer, but Slayer ripostes!
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:52 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Tue Nov 01 18:16:52 2011] Slayer crushes YOU for 24 points of damage.

this is such a fucking stupid test, you decreased the rangers attack rating as you increased the clerics armor rating. You didnt even alter the clerics attack rating or armor in either fight so of course he hits for the same in each fight, which lends the question, why the fuck are you spamming up your logs with your cleric hitting the ranger? We know clerics hit for less than rangers, their god damn skill caps dont go to 210 like rangers you newb.

So instead of an independent variable with clearly defined goals in your test, you leave a mishmash of fucking autoattacks from both toons with no isolated stats, you changed attack rating AND armor so we don't know which stat is effecting the rangers damage.

Nerfed - 50 cleric (634 armor 759 attack )
Slayer - 50 ranger (719 armor and 1073 attack)

Nerfed - 50 cleric (717 armor 759 attack )
Slayer - 50 ranger (719 armor and 909 attack)

[Bkab]

Yea, Slayer and Nerfed didn't follow Null's instructions yesterday while we were testing ac/atk at all. /facepalm

[Nirgon]

I support forum bans for troll-tards.