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[deakolt]

quality lulz with your mom on my dick salty

[Neno]

Get a degree in anything than go teach conversational English in Japan and live out your life stretching pussy in the Roppongi district.

[Bodeanicus]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Old man is maaaaaad

Luckily, he'll die from a coronary soon, related to his sedentary lifestyle coupled with excessive ED pill popping.

Old man gets lllaaaaiiidddd. With a woman. Weekly. Would you like me to tell you what a vagina feels like? Or maybe your old buddy who took your girlfriend could tell you, I'm sure he's hitting parts of it your 3 incher never touched. Aren't you supposed to be shipping out to the 'Ghan, to take a spot on Seal Team Six, by the way?

[Doors]

You get out of college what you put into it bros. I know at least 10 people all who majored in different fields and they all have jobs. Most of them pay really well. Most of these 10 people had to move away to get that job.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by God-King Abacab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alex Trebek, the President of Iran, and Ayn Rand all have philosophy degrees...

Most politicians and Lawyers have extensive concentrations in philosophy, several Federal judges and Senators have a B.S in philosophy

the President of Morgan Stanley has a philosophy degree, Bruce Bodaken CEO of blue shield is a philosophy major.

Time Warner and Paypal are run by philosophy majors

Herbert M. Allison, Jr. CEO of Fannie Mae, former President & COO of Merrill Lynch and Sheila Bair Chair of the FDIC both philosophy majors.


So in what context is the degree useless when many of those whom majored in philosophy control law, economics, politics, and business?

Abacab learned all this on Wikipedia. Just sayin...

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by God-King Abacab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are fucking DDS's out there in private practice with over $440,000 in debt at like 16-17% int.rate, yeah they make six figures every year but they'll always be paying off loans

That's abnormal and mostly for people who can't get into state schools who go straight to opening or investing in a practice immediately upon receiving their letters. In state tuition for Texas DDS programs is 13-16k per year + cost of living and some extra for tools, specs, etc. Overall if you're in state the cost of attending a DDS program is comparable to a state university. For reference, tuition at UT this past year eclipsed $6200 per semester for 15 hours.

Even if you went out of state or simply to a private school at around $55k per year you're looking at $200k tuition + living and tools. Even is we use very liberal budgeting figures and say they total another $125k during that time we're roughly $100k or 33% off from your figure. I'm not saying this never happens, but for someone to have almost half a million in debt upon leaving dental school seems ludicrous.

I recently heard that the average associate with PDS makes ~$170k annually straight out of school with ZERO overhead cost. You can put some serious payback into those loans over a two year span and still have enough to buy into a practice as a partner.

Also, I'm not sure where you heard 16-17% loan rate but that sounds as if they transferred their loan sum to consolidate under a private institution of some sort. Professional school tuition loans often run sub 5% which is why you see doctors, dentists, and lawyers pay them off over 20 year plans quite often.

[God-King Abacab]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's abnormal and mostly for people who can't get into state schools who go straight to opening or investing in a practice immediately upon receiving their letters. In state tuition for Texas DDS programs is 13-16k per year + cost of living and some extra for tools, specs, etc. Overall if you're in state the cost of attending a DDS program is comparable to a state university. For reference, tuition at UT this past year eclipsed $6200 per semester for 15 hours.

Even if you went out of state or simply to a private school at around $55k per year you're looking at $200k tuition + living and tools. Even is we use very liberal budgeting figures and say they total another $125k during that time we're roughly $100k or 33% off from your figure. I'm not saying this never happens, but for someone to have almost half a million in debt upon leaving dental school seems ludicrous.

I recently heard that the average associate with PDS makes ~$170k annually straight out of school with ZERO overhead cost. You can put some serious payback into those loans over a two year span and still have enough to buy into a practice as a partner.

Also, I'm not sure where you heard 16-17% loan rate but that sounds as if they transferred their loan sum to consolidate under a private institution of some sort. Professional school tuition loans often run sub 5% which is why you see doctors, dentists, and lawyers pay them off over 20 year plans quite often.

I'm just speaking on an individual basis as opposed to a normative mean, while anyone can throw D.O.E statistics and base every individual case into this lump sum, it's better to interview the average college graduate in the professional world in terms of debt and weight of a degree.

[God-King Abacab]

Originally Posted by Bodeanicus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Old man gets lllaaaaiiidddd. With a woman. Weekly. Would you like me to tell you what a vagina feels like? Or maybe your old buddy who took your girlfriend could tell you, I'm sure he's hitting parts of it your 3 incher never touched. Aren't you supposed to be shipping out to the 'Ghan, to take a spot on Seal Team Six, by the way?

Every time someone insults you, you always spout off the line "Well I get laid!" like it's some sort of rare accomplishment... Not as if billions of people world wide are probably fucking as I type this or anything.

You call me sociopathic, but instead you're the one validating his worth by the ability to successfully attempt one of the most prevalent, basic and instinctual processes in nature. It would be more scathing if you said "I ate today!" and Harrison was some starving Brazilian, because statistically more people fuck than eat given the high over-population in certain populations

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by God-King Abacab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm just speaking on an individual basis as opposed to a normative mean, while anyone can throw D.O.E statistics and base every individual case into this lump sum, it's better to interview the average college graduate in the professional world in terms of debt and weight of a degree.

My first degree was American Studies which was pointless although my first job out of school paid $50k + incentives. I came out of school with less than $10k debt and would have had virtually none had I not taken a victory lap for my last 3 hours. My degree was by no means worthless in terms of earning potential, but in terms of how it directly related to my career it was.

First and foremost, private institutions outside of a few marquee schools aren't worth the cost regardless of what degree you're getting. I don't care if you major in biochemistry, there's no reason to pay $30k+ per year in tuition for a job that essentially opens at $40kish.

Going back to what you said about LA degrees being worthless, it depends on where you get it and who it's connected to. I would say a philosphy degree from a public ivy league has the potential to land you a better business or sales job than a business or marketing degree from a school like Texas Tech. Truth be told though, you can't make a rational argument that the average American has more earning potential with only a GED versus a bachelor's in something. Having a college degree makes you part of a socioeconomic sub-class that tends to look out for one another and that's where the real value of getting that degree comes from.

I know you get this because you're obviously an intelligent person and you're just trying to make a point, but a completed degree is by no means worthless. To me the more relevant issue at hand is that people are going to school who have no business doing so and dropping out or running their credit into the ground. My original degree, in my opinion, was a waste of time because I did it simply to get one instead of truly knowing what I wanted for a career. If an 18 year old is able to figure out a career that will drive them for life and stick with it, they've got it figured out. For the rest of us, there's always liberal arts.

[JayDee]

remember when this thread was good