Question About The Hole

[commongood]

Originally Posted by Para99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Congrats man. Did you crit Kindle from out in the graveyard or were you inside and pulled her out? I think it could be done in the right spot in the graveyard but I never got around to trying it.

Yeah was in graveyard on the right hand side. Worked like a charm

[wagorf]

since we alrdy have the zone experts in thread, i wanna ask a totally unrelated question

can a 59 monk go in and explore to its deepest and solo random stuff for xp? he's no raid gear but solid twink epic fungi full ss cof etc. im also totally unfamiliar with the zone

[Swish2]

Yes but the XP rate at 59 is going to be slow honestly on top of it being the worst hell level...you'll figure out how to get out but I'd take some kind of item to get out in case you need to leave or just have had enough [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] (leatherfoot raider skullcap, or some kind of gate potion).

Personally I'd rather solo KC mobs than do Hole mobs at 59 (which is saying something [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

[wagorf]

thanks, just hate to go in there and not be able to single anything, or die easy from casters or crazy mobs

[Rygar]

You can do fine, I did 100% of 59 in the Hole. I did elementals, but i think my buddy zentile did rats (you may need DS pots to speed things up, think he did).

Keep in mind, once Haynar codes in proper spell interruption (i.e. no more pushing to interrupt) then the cleric mobs are going to suck.

Swish is right that solo 59 on elementals is slow, I just enjoyed having a camp where I was never interrupted and had it to myself. I need to frequently afk too so grouping wasn't an option.

Edit: you will need to go deeper, ent mobs will be green.

[Iksar_with_a_plan]

Originally Posted by wagorf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

thanks, just hate to go in there and not be able to single anything, or die easy from casters or crazy mobs

There are areas you can get to easily as a monk where most of your mob choices are elementals, lowest/classic HP and mostly blue to a 59, for soloing, these are the mobs you want. Avoid all rock golems, ghosts, and even rats, they have significantly higher HP and dmg caps, and are higher in level. However after you get past the top floor which is mostly comprised of green cons you will find that there are increasing amounts of elemental casters. Some of these complete heal, some are wizards who like to grav flux/root/nuke and such. Most of the higher lvl elementals are as follows: Elemental Wizards, Capturers (rogues), and elemental harvesters/channelers (complete heal). After a certain point you stop seeing the channelers. Capturers are higher level Deceivers, Harvesters higher level channelers. harvesters complete heal so be ready to time your stuns, and also they love to run (all elementals).

As I stated before there is a spot in hole next to a certain camp that allows you to stand and sit out of line of sight of mobs that have even aggro'd you. This gives you the opportunity to camp out and reset the aggro table. However with FD that point is kind of moot. Its a dangerous zone for soloing because if you make the tiniest mistake and dont know your camp/spawn points/wandering mobs you can easily eat it. Especially considering the amount of casters and the potential for you to face a cast after a feign death. Find yourself a shaman or a cleric/ench, get the ench a rogue pet, find a nice spot, learn the camp. A duo/trio will be particularly more rewarding and less risk than if you were to attempt to solo. I personally would not solo in hole.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Originally Posted by wagorf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

thanks, just hate to go in there and not be able to single anything, or die easy from casters or crazy mobs

If you end up soloing there I would advise doing town entrance/some of the town. I was able to solo there from at least 55-60 and still get decent exp. Avoiding the 2 golems and the ghost there, the worst you have to worry about is the ratman warrior pather.

Check out Rygar's guide if you haven't already! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Dillusional]

I don't know about shaman but a poorly geared level 60 enchanter can pull ghost of kindle out of the castle and solo it elsewhere in the zone. That's what i did for my epic. Earth elemental illusion + collaboration allows you to be non-kos to the living, if you haven't killed in the hole. Combine that with invisibility versus undead and you are non-kos/invis to everything. Nothing social agroes with kindle..... you can lull the other mobs in the room, rapture kindle, ivu yourself and just run out of the castle to anywhere in the zone and kindle will show up behind you solo at some point.....I think i killed kindle next to a pond using some golems ...

[Swish2]

Originally Posted by Dillusional [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know about shaman but a poorly geared level 60 enchanter can pull ghost of kindle out of the castle and solo it elsewhere in the zone. That's what i did for my epic. Earth elemental illusion + collaboration allows you to be non-kos to the living, if you haven't killed in the hole. Combine that with invisibility versus undead and you are non-kos/invis to everything. Nothing social agroes with kindle..... you can lull the other mobs in the room, rapture kindle, ivu yourself and just run out of the castle to anywhere in the zone and kindle will show up behind you solo at some point.....I think i killed kindle next to a pond using some golems ...

Smart ^^

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[commongood]

Originally Posted by Dillusional [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know about shaman but a poorly geared level 60 enchanter can pull ghost of kindle out of the castle and solo it elsewhere in the zone. That's what i did for my epic. Earth elemental illusion + collaboration allows you to be non-kos to the living, if you haven't killed in the hole. Combine that with invisibility versus undead and you are non-kos/invis to everything. Nothing social agroes with kindle..... you can lull the other mobs in the room, rapture kindle, ivu yourself and just run out of the castle to anywhere in the zone and kindle will show up behind you solo at some point.....I think i killed kindle next to a pond using some golems ...

Yeah. Pretty huge boon to not have killed in The Hole for this reason as a chanter. FWIW I must have killed around, umm, 5-7 mobs at entrance before I knew about this and I was still, as an agnostic dark elf, able to become non-kos with illusion + Collaboration.

The Ratmen, btw, are KOS and you need regular invis for those. There aren't many of them from what I can tell on wiki but yeah, be aware [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]