Question for GMs: Forward LNS

[Modus]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

calling LnS from pure PvE deaths is not allowed.

Also, this is really clumsy.

The intention of LNS is to allow players to loot their body and continue playing EverQuest. But, if a kobald kills you instead of a fungi twink, they can corpse camp you all day long?

Stupid.

[Akalakamelee]

Originally Posted by Modus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, this is really clumsy.

The intention of LNS is to allow players to loot their body and continue playing EverQuest. But, if a kobald kills you instead of a fungi twink, they can corpse camp you all day long?

Stupid.

No, at the point of pvp death you call lns.

[Kergan]

Ogre wall of oor toons isn't really a PVP tactic man. Built out of level 60s that shits legit you feelers?

[Buhbuh]

Originally Posted by krazyGlue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't care I know how much u pals like raiding . Listen along

Didn't sound that way in TS.

Also pulling 1 mob at a time the entire raid?

Front all you want here, but naw. Rustle is real.


One thing the GMs implemented with the hope it would bring more mass PvP was the rule where guilds are able to LnS a raid force from one zone in order to contest at another later in the day.

What ended up happening was - raid forces plug after losing a small amount (where it's apparent they won't win), call LnS, unplug, port and snipe mobs across the world map, completely avoiding any future PvP battle because they know when they're outmatched (which is a logically sound way to operate).

The only problem there is that no one faces consequences for mass PvPing. There's now a loophole for bringing your guild to fight another and losing. You don't have to wait any period of time to LnS or wait until they leave the zone or finish the raid mob. You just pickup your shit and walk away, avoiding PvP and getting what raid loot you can without actually ever engaging anyone again.

Basically, the idea sounded great on paper (yay, more world PvP), but it never ended up that way. No one suffers for losing. I don't like that. We need a little bit of that. A time for reflection after losing a hard fought battle.

I don't think you should sit on corpses for days at a time, but that can be addressed with a timeframe to raid force LnS. After losing en masse, you wait 30 minutes or until the winning raid force leaves the zone to get your shit and hop to the next target. That's a far more reasonable way to look at it. You gotta sit that shit out, and if you zone in to LnS within that 30 minute timeframe, you get annihilated. That doesn't mean we have to lawyerquest it as a LnS violation for doing that, but just that anyone who zones in within that time frame is getting rocked.

While in Nihilum, Azrael would lose at VS and be at PD in VP before we were even finished in KC. It's like they were rewarded for losing.

I don't get that part of the PnP.

[Buhbuh]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ogre wall of oor toons isn't really a PVP tactic man. Built out of level 60s that shits legit you feelers?

I agree there. In range, sure. But that can be loopholed with "i was 55 and couldn't kill them" argument. They had plenty of those running in last night.

[vouss]

Originally Posted by Buhbuh

While in Nihilum, Azrael would lose at VS and be at PD in VP before we were even finished in KC. It's like they were rewarded for losing.

That wasn't easy though, and wasn't due to LnS, that required us to have characters at both PD's lair, and in Dreadlands, and to try and have the timers close enough that one could be delayed until they both spawned.

[Nirgon]

Can't wait to push PD timer so everyone in Holo can enjoy the prime time raiding.

Don't deny our flow of replacements throughout the day their LNS into VP. You heard the man.

[Edgat]

The fact that Sirken even has to sit in here and answer these retarded questions is absurd.

Take the time to read the rules then read them again. 90% of the time I see someone say some shit about pvp or lns rules its bullshit they got second hand from someone else that never read the shit either.

Need to make a 20 question test fill players screen next time they log into red until they pass the test.

[Kergan]

Population would plummet to historical lows.

[Dacuk]

Originally Posted by MavstabYoudead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

who still doesn't understand the rules even after sirken has been perfectly clear? Seems to be a lot of holo:

Pseudechis 11
Nirgon 8
HippoNipple 8
Pikrib 7
heartbrand 6
Colgate 6
Samhain 3
dontbanpls 2
Dacuk 1
Doors 1
Crazycloud 1

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