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Old 09-09-2015, 05:27 AM
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I have a ping oscillating between 130 and 150ms. I made a lowbie rogue and jousted a bit, found it hard to land backstabs and generally found the whole experience frustrating.

Which classes should I NOT play at all, from the PvP standpoint, considering the ping?

Which classes SHOULD I play? Obviously wizard / druid, anything else? What if I really want to play some kind of melee?

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Old 09-09-2015, 05:29 AM
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play whatever you want to play

you'll learn to adjust.. but obviously a caster would be easier
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Old 09-09-2015, 05:36 AM
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I play with 360ms. Don't really notice the ping on a caster. But I can't hit people for shit on a melee.
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Old 09-09-2015, 05:39 AM
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I kinda wanna play a rogue but years of playing Quake taught me that when you have a 150 ping and you're dueling someone who has a 30 ping, you'll need a VERY big skill edge in order to prevail.
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Old 09-09-2015, 05:40 AM
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I have a ping oscillating between 130 and 150ms. I made a lowbie rogue and jousted a bit, found it hard to land backstabs and generally found the whole experience frustrating.

Which classes should I NOT play at all, from the PvP standpoint, considering the ping?

Which classes SHOULD I play? Obviously wizard / druid, anything else? What if I really want to play some kind of melee?

Share the wisdom, thanks.
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You can still play anything you want with that MS, but unless you really apply yourself to have pinpoint timing (which anyone who figures out your movement patterns can essentially block if they count your backstab cooldown)...then I wouldn't suggest rogue.

Had to deal with that ping the entire time I played on this server and it becomes incredibly frustrating not being able to land backstab rounds not only due to your ping, but the ping differential between you and the person you are fighting. It's actually to land backstabs on people from the east coast than people on the west coast because stutter stepping from both clients leads to a ridiculous variance in the hit boxes.

If you're really dead set on a melee, you could still easily play a monk due to their high avoidance and regen. Or even a warrior because of how tanky they are and if you land a kick it's basically a guaranteed melee round for you.

If you choose to play a caster, play something that isn't super squishy that will die in a single duelist from a rogue, as latency screws you on this account as well. Can't count the amount of times my wizard has been oneshot by an east coast rogue when I really felt like I shouldn't have been getting hit.
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Old 09-09-2015, 05:45 AM
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What is your usual ping, Salt? Looks like you still managed to win a BotB as a rogue despite these issues?
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Old 09-09-2015, 12:31 PM
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What is your usual ping, Salt? Looks like you still managed to win a BotB as a rogue despite these issues?
I bounce between 120-140. I remember having rezynn with me in ts on the pbe and asking him his ping, and somehow he had lower ping in sweden. On some late nights with sub 100 pop my ping will drop into the low 100's.
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Old 09-09-2015, 02:08 PM
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I bounce between 120-140. I remember having rezynn with me in ts on the pbe and asking him his ping, and somehow he had lower ping in sweden. On some late nights with sub 100 pop my ping will drop into the low 100's.
Salt and I have the same issue. It is (I have noticed) varied more heavily on your enemies ping to land jousts.

I was pretty consistent when Salt and I would toe to toe. But was having the same problems Gardur/Salt explained. Being literally inside of someones pixelated asshole, and not being able to land a single swing on them.

So if you just learn to deal with the deficit, you should be fine on MOST targets. I only notice on some euros or aussies does the hit box become non-existent half the time.
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Old 09-10-2015, 02:05 PM
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What is your usual ping, Salt? Looks like you still managed to win a BotB as a rogue despite these issues?
Wasn't the Rogue BotB using the old hit boxes though? They were a lot bigger making jousting cake to what it is now.
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Old 09-10-2015, 05:39 PM
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Wasn't the Rogue BotB using the old hit boxes though? They were a lot bigger making jousting cake to what it is now.
Yes that's true, it was using the old hit boxes. That being said, I dueled most of the good rogues that were around during the new hit boxes and already stated how I fared against them all [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. Had a huge issue with gnome rogues however so that result was inconsistent on player. Slaughtered noscucow on a regular basis due to how bad he was, but got stomped by mornin playing Littlegyno.

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