Song haste stacking

[Teeroyoyort]

Yes or no? I"m not talking overhaste. I need to know so I can pick my songs correctly when grouping with an enchanter.

[Jify]

Should be no.

[guineapig]

I thought haste can be stacked like this:

1 song, 1 spell, 1 item

Is that not the case?

I guess I should ask you to clarify your question. DO you mean stacking haste songs or stacking a haste song with enchanter haste?

[Jify]

1 Song/spell haste
1 item haste
1 overhaste

[Deric]

Jify is correct. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bards do not get a stackable haste until Velious. However, this haste(Ervaj) does not go over the cap. Songs that could put you over the cap were not until Luclin.(Vah Shir)

[mmiles8]

Enchanter haste (with the exception of aug) provides no stats. All of your songs provide stats on top of the haste effect. You will still receive the stat benefit, and should weigh this when considering your lineup.

[guineapig]

Thanks for the clarification.
That's actually not bad, considering the AC, resist and DS songs that are often not twisted in groups due to always twisting the haste song.

One more question, which overwrites which?

Example:

Enchanter casts Quickness on the group, then bard sings Jonthan's Whistling Warsong.
Which haste is being used?
Is it always whatever the highest haste %?

Another example:

Jonthan's Whistling Warsong
versus
Augmentation

Which stats end up being used?

[Rogean]

Theres physical stacking and actual effect stacking / precedence.
The songs should physically stack with, for example, enchanter haste, however only the highest haste percentage will be used. Even if it doesn't use the haste from the song due to having another buff with higher haste, it will still apply other effects from that song, provided they aren't also over precedented.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Theres physical stacking and actual effect stacking / precedence.
The songs should physically stack with, for example, enchanter haste, however only the highest haste percentage will be used. Even if it doesn't use the haste from the song due to having another buff with higher haste, it will still apply other effects from that song, provided they aren't also over precedented.

Thank you for the answers everybody!
I used to know all this stuff, but that was a long time ago.

[Chicka]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thank you for the answers everybody!
I used to know all this stuff, but that was a long time ago.

Yea I was an eq encyclopedia back in the day but I find these days even what I remember for sure may be chronologically jumbled - so many things changed over the years in eq.