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Old 02-11-2014, 03:32 PM
Colgate Colgate is offline
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Default Bard Song Aggro

anyone who played a bard back in this era will remember how much aggro bard songs created

i distinctly remember having to wait until the tank in the group built aggro for a good 10-15 seconds before i could even start twisting songs

in this archived thread from 2003:
http://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-5646.html

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Why? Because SoE lowered bards innate aggro mod a while back, and they said they did, I dont remember when, but I am sure its on castersrealm in thier patch message archives somewhere. This was a direct result of bard songs being massively powerful, and needing to be refreshed every few seconds.
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Bard aggro was reduced because bard songs are refreshed every few seconds just to have the same effect as casting a normal spell once, yet each refresh of the bard's songs was treated the same way as a cast of a long duration spell as far as aggro generation. However, it might be spell/song specific rather than class based.
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Old 02-11-2014, 03:45 PM
Mac Dretti Mac Dretti is offline
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Bards were much better CC classes also, which helped combat the agro problems (lull pulls/aoe mez/single mez/snare/slow).

I played a bard up to 54 and never kited a single time.

You either had an enchanter or a bard in group.

On red aoe mez is useless, not sure about blue, but if their agro is going to addressed so should the CC ability imo.
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Old 02-16-2014, 06:35 PM
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Bards were much better CC classes also, which helped combat the agro problems (lull pulls/aoe mez/single mez/snare/slow).

I played a bard up to 54 and never kited a single time.

You either had an enchanter or a bard in group.

On red aoe mez is useless, not sure about blue, but if their agro is going to addressed so should the CC ability imo.
I don't recall the AoE mez being entirely great and kept to the single target most of the time. The single target was fantastic however [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 02-16-2014, 06:12 PM
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Before the song agro nerf... Pulling hate off your tank during a raid? Sucked. But at least I could do some "tanking" as the only plate class in a small group of my friends.

When they nerfed bard hate, they went way too far. I remember when our dots got fleshed out a bit more in later expansions... having a full set of dots running, meleeing, in close range, and having agro taken away just because someone sneezed. We should have had a larger risk of dying from poor agro management. (Loading the mob up with dots before the tank has established agro should kill you :P)
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