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Old 11-16-2011, 08:41 PM
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Default Can someone explain this: Classic pet experience distribution.

does this mean I will get less exp if my pet is up? also, if so and i have my pet up with a group member does this mean his xp is cut because i have my pet out? or only my xp is cut because it is my pet.
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Old 11-16-2011, 09:08 PM
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As I see it if you don't do 51% of the total damage your pet takes 75% XP solo.

Same in a group. If your pet does all the damage your group only gets 25% XP. But almost any group is going to do damage so it is my understanding that in groups XP will be normal.

Charming is a whole different story. Not really sure on it. I think Charmed pets are the same XP loss as a Summoned one.
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:32 PM
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As I see it if you don't do 51% of the total damage your pet takes 75% XP solo.
What? I correct that and say, if you don't do any damage to the mob at all then the pet gets 75%. Reason it was put in was because necros were able to just FD have the pet up and goto sleep and get free XP. They modified afew things as to make it so you dont benefit by doing this anymore, the 75% hit, or more to the point of 90% is one of them. How much would it suck if you had to outdmg the pet, zomg agro.... run!
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:28 PM
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As I see it if you don't do 51% of the total damage your pet takes 75% XP solo.

Same in a group. If your pet does all the damage your group only gets 25% XP. But almost any group is going to do damage so it is my understanding that in groups XP will be normal.

Charming is a whole different story. Not really sure on it. I think Charmed pets are the same XP loss as a Summoned one.
i believe that is for taking the loot/xp kill from another player.
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:38 PM
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you have to outdamage the pet, that's part of the huge pet leveling thread that happened a week ago. Read patch notes.
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:46 PM
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Here are the basic rules, along with some examples -

Situation 1 - You are soloing and you have a summoned pet-
* If you do any damage to the monster at all, you get all of the experience.
* If you don't do any damage to the monster, the pet gets 75% of the experience.

Situation 2 - You are in a group and you have a summoned pet-
* If you or your group do any damage to the monster at all, your group gets all of the experience.
* If you or your group don't do any damage to the monster, the pet gets 75% of the experience.

Damage shields count as neutral damage; Neither you nor your pet get credit for damage done by a damage shield.

If your pet dies or is reclaimed mid-battle, all damage done by it is considered zero for experience purposes.

It makes no difference if your pet gets the killing blow or not.

^^ That is the basic concept, if you have to out dmg the pet on this sever then they got it all wrong
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:54 PM
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O crap okey i see now....

In the old scheme, if a Dire Charmed pet did more than half of the damage to a monster, it took half of the experience reward. In the new scheme, if a Dire Charmed pet does more than half of the damage to a monster, it takes 25% - 50% of the experience reward, depending on damage done. This means that things are about the same as they were for Dire Charmed pets before, except they take less experience than they used to in most cases. As long as your pet doesn't do a lot more damage than you, you'll get more experience than you used to. In the worst case (unless you don't do any damage at all), your pet will take half the experience just like it used to. The one exception to this is - If you don't do any damage to the monster, the pet gets 75% of the experience. What's the bottom line? With the new rules, players get more experience than they used to with a pet in almost every situation. The only way you can get less than before is if you or your group don't damage a monster. As long as you do any damage at all, your pet will never take the 75% experience share. Make sure you do a bit of damage, and your summoned or regular charmed pets won't take a single point of experience. For Dire charmed pets it's better also - If you do half the damage to a monster, the Dire Charmed pet takes no experience. If you do less than half, your pet takes as little as 25% of the experience when it used to always take half. It can still take up to half the experience if you don't do much damage, but if you're contributing to the damage you'll get more than you used to.
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Old 11-17-2011, 06:02 AM
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As long as you do any damage at all, your pet will never take the 75% experience share. Make sure you do a bit of damage, and your summoned or regular charmed pets won't take a single point of experience.

Where do you take that information from?

patch notes 23 oct

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Kanras: Classic pet experience distribution.
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0% damage --> 0 xp

<50%damage --> 25% xp

>51% damage --> 100% xp

Same goes for charmed pets in and outside of groups.

There are atleast 3 huge threads about this topic.
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Old 11-17-2011, 06:47 AM
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Where do you take that information from?

patch notes 23 oct



Today:

0% damage --> 0 xp

<50%damage --> 25% xp

>51% damage --> 100% xp

Same goes for charmed pets in and outside of groups.

There are atleast 3 huge threads about this topic.

Thanks Kasilis for clearing it up. I said pretty much the same thing in my first thread. You only get 25% XP solo now on a Mage. That is why I have stopped playing mine and my Enchanter solo. Pet agro is next to useless.

They have pretty much thrown two of my toons under the bus now for soloing. I can outdamage my Necro pet so that seems to work. But having 1/4 of the XP I used to get just sucks on my Mage.
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:06 AM
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Today:

0% damage --> 0 xp

<50%damage --> 25% xp

>51% damage --> 100% xp

Same goes for charmed pets in and outside of groups.

There are atleast 3 huge threads about this topic.
When I charm an animal with my druid alt, I keep aggro with lots of "snare" casted on the mob and my pet is doing 100% of the dmg. I still get XP !
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