Raren Loses...all the time.

[jilena]

Thank you guys for almost bringing back the level of drama seen on a true classic server. All we need now is for the leader of DA to threaten violence upon the leader of IB IRL and it will be just like the nameless all over again!

[Raren]

Thank you guys for almost bringing back the level of drama seen on a true classic server. All we need now is for the leader of DA to threaten violence upon the leader of IB IRL and it will be just like the nameless all over again!

I dont think anyone will go that low

[astarothel]

My problem with Bossco is that he distributed screenshots of a private conversation without asking/telling me. It wasn't the content of the screenshot, just the act itself that bothers me. Furthermore, he tried to apologize for it, but upon realizing that I didn't know about it, he pretended the apology was a mistell and continued to act like my friend.

Not so cool.

[jilena]

I dont think anyone will go that low

Stop crushing my dreams!!!!

[Modus]

Ok, where is this screenshot

Loke, I took it. It says exactly what you think it says. It was a really dick thing for me to betray your confidence

Yeah, it was a dick move. So be a man and show everyone what you've already spread around, post it up. The SS clearly shows a pathetic attempt by IB to take an out-of-context comment from someone not present in the zone in order to sway a GM decision. It was deceptive, shameful, and it worked.

If you are claiming that either of those screenshots are from our first attempt, Modus, then you are guilty of causing the problem, as established by the precedent of our rogue watching you wipe on Innoruuk and subsequently being used as your reason for why you should have a second attempt.

This entire paragraph makes no sense, not that any of your angry ranting does. I had no charmed pet for Innoruuk, nor did I even venture anywhere near him. Likewise, those rogues "watching me" were the ones who trained Inny on us, as has already been proven.

someone had charmed something during the fight...and started a faction war.

First true statement in your post, and admission that the faction war was the fault of your guild. You trained yourselves, claimed a bug, and had a GM bail you out of a wipe.

Any argument you have with the outcome of that event is a blatant showing of disrespect for the judgement calls of the staff.

How asinine and ridiculous. GM-Secrets did a wonderful job handling the drama, as I've said many times. It's not a GM's fault when they're being provided out-of-context screenshots and being lied to. The fact is - you created a faction war on your second attempt at Vox, failed to kill her with your cheap tactics, and lied your asses off to have a GM bail you out.

it has been established that members of opposing forces do not belong in another guild's camp during a boss fight. Why were you breaking the rules?

I'm in communication with IB officers to establish who is allowed near raid encounters to document exploitation. IB has shown they can't handle raiding without using exploits and/or cheating to down a mob. Let guild officers handle the important stuff Alawen, stick to tracking Naggy.

And yes, IB exploited on their last Vox kill as well:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=16821&pictureid=396509

I haven't noticed Modus raising hell lately

/roar

[jilena]

I think we need more questionable screenshots.

[Erasong]

LOL @ having a giant add on us being an exploit

[jilena]

Dude stop trying to hide those goblins you had charmed to tank her. Fucking exploiters.

[yaaaflow]

Even though I haven't played EQ in a couple months these forums are truly the gift that keeps on giving.

[Starklen]

So did you guys ever get the name of that guy who trained you?

[yaaaflow]

btw what's the exploit or the implied exploit in Modus' screenshot? Maybe I'm slow I guess a charmed giant is the most obvious option?

[Aadill]

DA leadership lied to get a second try at Innoruuk.

I take issue with this and this even what the discussion has been about. That particular raid was the reason that there needs to be an established etiquette involving multiple raid forces in the same zone. As of current, the rules are only applying to the boss mobs, not placement in zone, or even activities while in the same zone.

In that case, evidence was AT BEST inconclusive as there were multiple agros well before the wipe took place. I feel it's safe to assume that reducing the possibility of problems is going to cause less headaches overall.

As Modus said, and I'm sure you'd agree, any "evidence" out of context is going to easily sway a decision, if the GMs even bother to continue dealing with it. With both guilds keeping some sort of inane "watchful eye of justice" on each other, drama will always ensue.

Claim a mob through legitimate means - camp it, mobilize quicker, whatever. When someone comes to apply for their attempt, that is to be done. After that, there should be no drama.

When you use methods to kill a mob that result in the possibility of you failing, tough. If things turn to complete shit well beyond your control, going beyond the game's scope, call a GM. If you fuck up legitimately, shutup and get back in line.


To any and all: If you want to FFA like a bunch of mouthbreathing retards go ahead. If you want to actually participate in a video game in which the entire aspect that so many people actually give this game credit for (community), then stop acting like little shits.

[Gwence]

lol he has a screenshot of vox corpse with an ice giant running around agro on someone, I wish I had the level of skill modus has at taking completely arbitrary screenshots of stuff.

[Modus]

lol he has a screenshot of vox corpse with an ice giant running around agro on someone, I wish I had the level of skill modus has at taking completely arbitrary screenshots of stuff.

An endless stream of deceptive drivel, do you guys have no shame?

Everyone who knows the mechanics of Lady Vox can attest to the exploit in question.

Post the screenshot of Loke's statements so we can shed light on the subject of GM deception.

[Gwence]

Well DA is certainly expert on lady vox mechanics having killed her so many times.

oh wait.. I guess having 1 single kill on a mob makes you all experts.

You'll have to enlighten me on her mechanics then I've only killed her a few dozen times on this server. (all exploited Im sure)

[mr.miketastic]

Well DA is certainly expert on lady vox mechanics having killed her so many times.

oh wait.. I guess having 1 single kill on a mob makes you all experts.

You'll have to enlighten me on her mechanics then I've only killed her a few dozen times on this server. (all exploited Im sure)

Lol, nice ad hominem

[Phallax]

Well DA is certainly expert on lady vox mechanics having killed her so many times.

oh wait.. I guess having 1 single kill on a mob makes you all experts.

You'll have to enlighten me on her mechanics then I've only killed her a few dozen times on this server. (all exploited Im sure)

Yea because non of us have ever killed her on live.
And as for your little shit comment about me commenting on every post. Who gives a shit? Im actually intelligent enough to think of somthing for every post instead of just browsing through and picking something and going "oh i can comment on that and try to be funny!" no, you fail.

[Gwence]

No you're not intelligent at all at proven yet again by your first statement in your last post.

Killing vox on live is different from killer her on this emu server, the mechanics of killing bosses on live and emu servers are different, but most of all killing vox on live in a raid setting being level 52 or lower requires a person to recall things that took place close to a decade ago. Relying on memory cues from that long ago is not something an intelligent person would do.

[Phallax]

No you're not intelligent at all at proven yet again by your first statement in your last post.

Killing vox on live is different from killer her on this emu server, the mechanics of killing bosses on live and emu servers are different, but most of all killing vox on live in a raid setting being level 52 or lower requires a person to recall things that took place close to a decade ago. Relying on memory cues from that long ago is not something an intelligent person would do.

The only thing thats different in mechanics is theres no push...Thats really bout it. And I guess you dont have the brain power to remember a decade ago, Im feel sorry for you. They have meds for that you know.

[Gwence]

Most people dont have the mental capacity to remember insignificant events from 2-3 years ago, let alone 10.

If you're saying killing Vox years ago was such an outstanding or traumatic event for you that it got fused into your long term memory then I think you need to re-examine which of us needs those meds.

[jilena]

I want someone to explain those goblins. This cheating shit is getting out of hand! Justice must be served!!!

[Aadill]

Most people dont have the mental capacity to remember insignificant events from 2-3 years ago, let alone 10.

If you're saying killing Vox years ago was such an outstanding or traumatic event for you that it got fused into your long term memory then I think you need to re-examine which of us needs those meds.

This game is like riding a bike.

More than anything, if you're not having any fun doing it, get off the road.

[Phallax]

Most people dont have the mental capacity to remember insignificant events from 2-3 years ago, let alone 10.

If you're saying killing Vox years ago was such an outstanding or traumatic event for you that it got fused into your long term memory then I think you need to re-examine which of us needs those meds.

I just have a great memory...Its not hard to remember things if your brain can handle it.

[Aadill]

These posts are bad posts.

[Scrubby McGee]

Your mamma is a bad post!

[Aadill]

Whoa.

[Ripcord]

ITT: 50 nerds give excuses as to why they couldn't kill the dragon. God I love this place.

[Aadill]

ITT: 50 nerds give excuses as to why they couldn't kill the dragon. God I love this place.

I slayed the dragon.

[Phallax]

ITT: 50 nerds give excuses as to why they couldn't kill the dragon. God I love this place.

And the biggest nerd acting like hes not a nerd calling other nerds nerds.

[Alawen Everywhere]

The mechanics for Vox on this emu aren't even the same as they were a couple weeks ago. You're speaking from a position of nearly complete ignorance, Phallax. Please don't try to be an expert based on one kill by so many players that it trivialized the encounter.

Is Modus an officer of Fish Bait? That little guy sure does put on airs.

[Emil]

I never post on this drama bullshit but you are calling us exploiters cause we got a goblin train from feared pets? Like you did last week?

[Aadill]

Pictures are worth a thousand words.

Unless those words are all HURRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

Then even the pictures are worthless.

[Ripcord]

I am a nerd bitch

[astarothel]

That particular raid was the reason that there needs to be an established etiquette involving multiple raid forces in the same zone. As of current, the rules are only applying to the boss mobs, not placement in zone, or even activities while in the same zone.

In that case, evidence was AT BEST inconclusive as there were multiple agros well before the wipe took place. I feel it's safe to assume that reducing the possibility of problems is going to cause less headaches overall.

As Modus said, and I'm sure you'd agree, any "evidence" out of context is going to easily sway a decision, if the GMs even bother to continue dealing with it. With both guilds keeping some sort of inane "watchful eye of justice" on each other, drama will always ensue.

Claim a mob through legitimate means - camp it, mobilize quicker, whatever. When someone comes to apply for their attempt, that is to be done. After that, there should be no drama.

When you use methods to kill a mob that result in the possibility of you failing, tough. If things turn to complete shit well beyond your control, going beyond the game's scope, call a GM. If you fuck up legitimately, shutup and get back in line.


To any and all: If you want to FFA like a bunch of mouthbreathing retards go ahead. If you want to actually participate in a video game in which the entire aspect that so many people actually give this game credit for (community), then stop acting like little shits.

Agree with most everything here except for the claiming through camping. Anyone can camp and we know it doesn't take skill, just time and numbers. Mobilizing was what I loved best about classic. Assigning an arbitrary value of 15 guild/raid members simply bumped it from a couple trackers to lots of people afking in zones. It hasn't changed the innate behaviour, courtesy or dickery of guilds and how they interact, and in fact I believe the set numbers required has only made it worse.

Park trackers? Fine. But camping with X arbitrary amount, simply so they can claim only to have the other guild still _sitting_in_the_zone_ at all with the potential for interference that has been claimed on both sides? Pants on head retarded.

[Aadill]

The thing is everyone wants to be competitive without acknowledging the server's staff and all of their hard work. I'm all for killing raid targets and by golly I want to kill all of them, but yowza.... I think as dumb little kids we were more civil about it than this.

[Phallax]

The mechanics for Vox on this emu aren't even the same as they were a couple weeks ago. You're speaking from a position of nearly complete ignorance, Phallax. Please don't try to be an expert based on one kill by so many players that it trivialized the encounter.

Is Modus an officer of Fish Bait? That little guy sure does put on airs.

Dont even try and insult anyones intelligence here by acting like Vox has some super serial secret mechanics...Ill spill them so all know!

Shes a dragon, she fears and has a cold based AOE and she CHs herself. The only thing that "changed" in the past weeks are AC and HPs maybe, I dunno I wasnt around for the change. But to act like her "mechanics" are any different than from live other than no raid push is just "ignorance" as you so cleverly put it.

[astarothel]

The thing is everyone wants to be competitive without acknowledging the server's staff and all of their hard work. I'm all for killing raid targets and by golly I want to kill all of them, but yowza.... I think as dumb little kids we were more civil about it than this.

Pretty sure we can all agree we don't want GMs to have to babysit.
I mean sure they could simply just have it so that when a GM is on and if they so choose they could spawn an encounter and babysit it but I am fairly certain 1) The GMs dont want to do that, it's more work 2) There'd be fewer raid bosses available from the former, and at less random times 3) It's the exact opposite of the hands off policy they wish they could have.

[Cyrano]

It's amazing an officer (Modus) offers so little input, ignores any real contention to the veracity of his comments and then acts like he just blew our minds with truth and savvy.

Like I said, the moment you guys kick this moron I'll take you seriously.

[jilena]

I never post on this drama bullshit but you are calling us exploiters cause we got a goblin train from feared pets? Like you did last week?

I was kidding about the goblins. Just saying. Also I am not in DA : P

[Alawen Everywhere]

Dont even try and insult anyones intelligence here by acting like Vox has some super serial secret mechanics...Ill spill them so all know!

Shes a dragon, she fears and has a cold based AOE and she CHs herself. The only thing that "changed" in the past weeks are AC and HPs maybe, I dunno I wasnt around for the change. But to act like her "mechanics" are any different than from live other than no raid push is just "ignorance" as you so cleverly put it.

Your ego is vastly larger than your intellect. There is no point in attempting to communicate with someone who pretends knowledge.

[Goobles]

pretends knowledge.

Huh? What is a cogent sentence, Trabek?

[Omnimorph]

Your ego is vastly larger than your intellect. There is no point in attempting to communicate with someone who pretends knowledge.

My mind expands beyond the bounds of space and time!

[jilena]

Kinda like my cack! errr...

[Alawen Everywhere]

Huh? What is a cogent sentence, Trabek?

I can think of few things more ignorant than attempting to correct a grammatically proper sentence with a ten-dollar word.