Progression? lol

[Anger]

How's it going farming the same content since March pals? Still poopsocking for the same shitty loot that will undoubtedly go to a bank alt anyways?

No VP because the top two guilds "dont get along with each other"? I think it's because the devs simply haven't finished it yet. A convenient excuse to cover up the fact that this so called "classic progression" server is months behind. No VP/Epics? Obviously because TR/TMO are acting like children, right?

See if I ever play my level 30 SK again!

[Anger]

And now this: http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?p=440016#post440016 ??

Is this a joke?

[nilbog]

It's been done for a while.

Please continue.

[Anger]

And epics? Where are those? Another delay victim of the childish antics of the two top guilds that forces the entire server to comply?

[nilbog]

Epics aren't done, nope.

We have very few developers willing to put up ungrateful fucks.

So, keep waiting.

[pickled_heretic]

It's been done for a while.

Please continue.

delaying VP doesn't just punish the top 2 guilds, it punishes the entire server. I don't really see the point of delaying the release of more potential raid targets other than because you're not done with them.

[pickled_heretic]

other than perhaps because you actually do want to punish the entire server.

[G13]

Epics aren't done, nope.

We have very few developers willing to put up ungrateful fucks.

So, keep waiting.

I thought development had nothing to do with the playerbase and everything to do with your love of the game?

[nilbog]

Notice how often we've had patches? The red beta received the latest patch, but p99 has not.

Rogean is the server admin, so he does the patches when he has time. Rogean and I both have full time jobs. At the time of the last content patch of p99 blue, the raid guilds most definitely didn't deserve VP. Since that time, there hasn't been a patch.

So, once again, VP has been done for quite a while. You can bitch about it not being open, sure, but it's not due lack of development. From the announcement, I'd say that's when to expect the next patch.

[Rogean]

If we didn't lie about Kunark being delayed due to not being completed, why would we lie about delaying VP?

Troll Fail.

[Palemoon]

Both need to become independently wealthy and spend way more time doing p99 imo.

[Ssleeve]

Appreciate the work guys and so do most.

People that are appreciative and content don't go on the forums for the most part.

Please ignore demanding ungrateful d-bags from here and the PvP forums.

[Szeth]

Where's the p99 lurker that is secretly a billionaire to donate 6 figures to Rogean/Nilbog for some overtime hours??

[Nuggie]

Don't listen to the haters. They are the vocal minority.

[Harrison]

ITT: Useless people.

Bronson? Need we comment at all on this kid?
Anger? Anon trolls lol

[Extunarian]

Appreciate the work guys and so do most.

People that are appreciative and content don't go on the forums for the most part.

Please ignore demanding ungrateful d-bags from here and the PvP forums.

^^

Also, just donated. Happy Friday.

[Ducky]

Trolls, dicks and all around losers need to stop bitching about a server that is more or less a GIFT to the gaming community. Get a life, we were better off without fucks like you on the server anyway, so stay gone.

[Massive Marc]

who cares about the 30-50 kids with down's that have no fucking life what so ever... let them farm bone chips for the next month.

then again, who cares about the decreasing population... amirite ?

[Ceros]

The apparent sense of entitlement on this forum is stunning. You'd think you fuckers paid $50 at the store and $10/month for P99.

This is an amazing project. Unfortunately, I believe the misanthropes and social retards of this forum keep a lot of reasonably well-adjusted people from trying P99.

[Massive Marc]

yah, because EQ/P99 brings in the most prestige people from all around the internet.

[Tommy_Wiseau]

R&F used to be one of the bigger draws to p99, overmoderation has taken it down a few notches tho. The quality of these boards is more a comment on the management than the player base.

[Eccezan]

Epics aren't done, nope.

We have very few developers willing to put up ungrateful fucks.

So, keep waiting.

This is what the devs of this server believe that its player base is. The 500-600 people that spend OUR time to beta test this server, help them with bug reports, and spent most of our time during the day to read more about and post on this forum. Let me ask you Rogean and Nilbog, Why even add any content at all if we are just ungrateful fucks?


The sheer arrogance of the staff of this server lately has grown to inconceivable proportions. Look at yourself, what kind of success are you, and how can you possible throw the first stone (so to speak) where you can put down people that dedicate such time to your project. Most of us "ungrateful fucks" have real jobs as well and we often say terrific what a job you do for the server.

You have an 11 year old game with a diminishing player base whom you constantly berate. You have consistently shown favoritism to your certain "friends" that also play this game who do not have to play by the same rules other groups of people have to play by. Sure that's human I guess, but dont try to call yourself a "Fair and non-corrupt" server because that is a farce.
Call yourself a fucking sandbox on a garage machine for your fat racist Bostonian comrades.

Let me tell you something else. Assuming you have the cojones to leave this post up, let alone respond to it. Do you think that someone like Uthgaard would have left without just reason? Your dirty laundry has been aired out. It is obvious that you care about the population more than whether people (That arent your friends) blatantly cheat on it.

So if that is all you care about I suppose this "ungrateful fuck" knows what to do.

Oh and let me be the first to post this:

http://www.allsandiegocomputerrepair.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/crying_baby.jpg

[Harrison]

TMO fall apart yet? Seeing a lot of you raging hard today.

[Massive Marc]

Epics aren't done, nope.

We have very few developers willing to put up ungrateful fucks.

So, keep waiting.

This is what the devs of this server believe that its player base is. The 500-600 people that spend OUR time to beta test this server, help them with bug reports, and spent most of our time during the day to read more about and post on this forum. Let me ask you Rogean and Nilbog, Why even add any content at all if we are just ungrateful fucks?


The sheer arrogance of the staff of this server lately has grown to inconceivable proportions. Look at yourself, what kind of success are you, and how can you possible throw the first stone (so to speak) where you can put down people that dedicate such time to your project. Most of us "ungrateful fucks" have real jobs as well and we often say terrific what a job you do for the server.

You have an 11 year old game with a diminishing player base whom you constantly berate. You have consistently shown favoritism to your certain "friends" that also play this game who do not have to play by the same rules other groups of people have to play by. Sure that's human I guess, but dont try to call yourself a "Fair and non-corrupt" server because that is a farce.
Call yourself a fucking sandbox on a garage machine for your fat racist Bostonian comrades.

Let me tell you something else. Assuming you have the cojones to leave this post up, let alone respond to it. Do you think that someone like Uthgaard would have left without just reason? Your dirty laundry has been aired out. It is obvious that you care about the population more than whether people (That arent your friends) blatantly cheat on it.

So if that is all you care about I suppose this "ungrateful fuck" knows what to do.

Oh and let me be the first to post this:

http://www.allsandiegocomputerrepair.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/crying_baby.jpg

http://www.anitakorren.com/images/cover.jpg

[Autotune]

TMO fall apart yet? Seeing a lot of you raging hard today.

still think durison was/is banned?

[Ceros]

R&F used to be one of the bigger draws to p99, overmoderation has taken it down a few notches tho. The quality of these boards is more a comment on the management than the player base.

As compelling as disproportionate and baffling vitriol to strangers and volunteers might be to some, I don't think it lends itself to a community that most people want to invest in.

It's clearly wearing on the Devs. Brad, Smed and Alan probably take some sadistic joy observing it.

[Harrison]

One can only hope. I don't care enough to log in and check or ask around if it was true.

You can't ban a nolifer like that in any case. One of you zerglings would give him a character to vpn on.

[Massive Marc]

One can only hope. I don't care enough to log in and check or ask around if it was true.

You can't ban a nolifer like that in any case. One of you zerglings would give him a character to vpn on.

To be fair, he's clearly not a no lifer if you've done any research on the guy.

[pickled_heretic]

R&F used to be one of the bigger draws to p99, overmoderation has taken it down a few notches tho. The quality of these boards is more a comment on the management than the player base.

that's really what any community is. it's a manifestation of its leadership. people will always be people. if enough people are being shitheads to give a community a certain reputation, it's because the leadership is tolerating or even condoning it.

personally, when i see the antisocial comments filtering down from the leadership of e.g. "our community is full of annoying assholes" i sort of identify that as a self fulfilling prophecy.

[nilbog]

This is what the devs of this server believe that its player base is. The 500-600 people that spend OUR time to beta test this server, help them with bug reports, and spent most of our time during the day to read more about and post on this forum. Let me ask you Rogean and Nilbog, Why even add any content at all if we are just ungrateful fucks?


The sheer arrogance of the staff of this server lately has grown to inconceivable proportions. Look at yourself, what kind of success are you, and how can you possible throw the first stone (so to speak) where you can put down people that dedicate such time to your project. Most of us "ungrateful fucks" have real jobs as well and we often say terrific what a job you do for the server.

You have an 11 year old game with a diminishing player base whom you constantly berate. You have consistently shown favoritism to your certain "friends" that also play this game who do not have to play by the same rules other groups of people have to play by. Sure that's human I guess, but dont try to call yourself a "Fair and non-corrupt" server because that is a farce.
Call yourself a fucking sandbox on a garage machine for your fat racist Bostonian comrades.

Let me tell you something else. Assuming you have the cojones to leave this post up, let alone respond to it. Do you think that someone like Uthgaard would have left without just reason? Your dirty laundry has been aired out. It is obvious that you care about the population more than whether people (That arent your friends) blatantly cheat on it.

So if that is all you care about I suppose this "ungrateful fuck" knows what to do.

Oh and let me be the first to post this:

http://www.allsandiegocomputerrepair.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/crying_baby.jpg

Not sure what you're going on about, but my response was obviously meant for Anger. If you apply it to yourself, I'm not sure why you're doing it.

And yes, the biggest reason any eqemu server stops developing is due to ungrateful fucks.

This is rants and flames right? I get to rant and flame.

[Slathar]

One can only hope. I don't care enough to log in and check or ask around if it was true.

You can't ban a nolifer like that in any case. One of you zerglings would give him a character to vpn on.

look at how much this guy cares about eq

[nilbog]

Do you think that someone like Uthgaard would have left without just reason? Your dirty laundry has been aired out. It is obvious that you care about the population more than whether people (That arent your friends) blatantly cheat on it.

So if that is all you care about I suppose this "ungrateful fuck" knows what to do.

Oh and let me be the first to post this:



My dirty laundry? That's a fucking joke. Anyone who actually goes out of their way to speak to me on a friendly basis knows how much I do care. If you want to rate my comments in rants and flames go right ahead.

[G13]

Not sure what you're going on about, but my response was obviously meant for Anger. If you apply it to yourself, I'm not sure why you're doing it.

And yes, the biggest reason any eqemu server stops developing is due to ungrateful fucks.

This is rants and flames right? I get to rant and flame.

You claimed from the beginning many times that your development of content on this server has nothing to do with whether people play on it or not

Why are you now blaming the player base for lack of development

[Eccezan]

Nilbog-

So you grind away to 60, get into a top raiding guild...days of time only to find out playing field is not level. Damn, guess you get what you pay for!! Move to boston and become a fat racist piece of trash and you get play in your own sandbox with yo freens with flames on their sleeves.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/image.php?u=2881&dateline=1278736080&type=profile


Enjoy

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CSN Rogean (CSN Rogean) is available 11:56 am
djdaviddeere 11:56 am
(11:56:57 AM): your a shitty dev, cant even respond to the 3 other petitions that TR broke the rules
(11:57:01 AM): CSR rather
(11:57:04 AM): get your shit together
(11:57:18 AM): fuckin done with this server
CSN Rogean 11:57 am
(11:57:37 AM): cya
djdaviddeere 11:57 am
(11:57:55 AM): goodluck with this dying server
djdaviddeere 11:59 am
(11:59:35 AM): last week on sev, TR stole our FTE pull, and NOTHING was done, then Xzerion calls you and you help them within hours
CSN Rogean 12:00 pm
(12:00:54 PM): so you're all up in my grill automatically assuming I'm responsible for everything
(12:00:58 PM): I'm at work atm
djdaviddeere 12:00 pm
(12:00:58 PM): yes
(12:01:00 PM): its your server
CSN Rogean 12:01 pm
(12:01:07 PM): "Your a shitty dev"
djdaviddeere 12:01 pm
(12:01:15 PM): CSR
CSN Rogean 12:01 pm
(12:01:16 PM): How about
(12:01:19 PM): you try a different approach
(12:01:23 PM): and then maybe we can have a conversation
djdaviddeere 12:01 pm
(12:01:28 PM): like what? being calm and putting in civil petitions
(12:01:31 PM): that are ignored for months
(12:01:32 PM): rediculous
(12:01:46 PM): you ignore me on aim for the most part
(12:01:49 PM): so i know you dont give a fuck
CSN Rogean 12:01 pm
(12:01:51 PM): I didn't say it had to be a post, we can talk here, but certainly not with your attitude coming at me like that
(12:01:59 PM): I'm going to go grab a sub
(12:02:06 PM): when I come back we can chat if you lose the attitude
(12:02:16 PM): brb 10 mins
djdaviddeere 12:11 pm
(12:11:10 PM): yeah pretty much most of TMO is gonna quit this server if this is the case, but let me know when your back
CSN Rogean 12:18 pm
(12:18:52 PM): ok so
(12:18:54 PM): Basically
(12:19:12 PM): TR was fighting Venril Sathir at the zone in (which they will be told not to do anymore along with everyone else) and they had a pile of mobs locked down by AE Mez
(12:19:20 PM): Zeelot ran into that pile of mobs and casted an AE on them
(12:19:27 PM): Twice.
djdaviddeere 12:20 pm
(12:20:28 PM): Is this logged or something?
(12:20:34 PM): whats your email
(12:20:45 PM): we got 2 petitions with TONS of fraps with TR raid interferring
(12:20:48 PM): not a GOD damn thing was done
CSN Rogean 12:23 pm
(12:23:08 PM): So your are defending yourself by saying "But they were doing it too!" from a different situation
djdaviddeere 12:23 pm
(12:23:14 PM): no
(12:23:17 PM): its pretty fucking pathetic
(12:23:20 PM): that nothing is done to these guys
(12:23:22 PM): after all the bullshit
(12:23:25 PM): officers using SEQ
(12:23:28 PM): im tellin you, im done with this server
(12:23:33 PM): bringing most of TMO with us
CSN Rogean 12:23 pm
(12:23:34 PM): do you say to a police officer when you get pulled over for speeding that "But the person in front of me was speeding too!"
djdaviddeere 12:23 pm
(12:23:38 PM): everyone is FED up
(12:23:41 PM): doesnt matter
(12:23:48 PM): this is the kind of shit that happens with the scene is ignored
(12:23:54 PM): and projections of favoritism are present
(12:24:03 PM): you are doing this to yourself
CSN Rogean 12:24 pm
(12:24:23 PM): I hear the fippy server has some awesome gm decisions going on, maybe you should try there then
djdaviddeere 12:24 pm
(12:24:31 PM): ive got something better
djdaviddeere 12:25 pm
(12:25:53 PM): not being consistant is the problem here
(12:26:28 PM): http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/943243EQ000089.png
(12:26:34 PM): TR should be fucking suspended from this last week
(12:26:41 PM): McBard also pulled Talendor with 2 TR in zone
CSN Rogean 12:26 pm
(12:26:42 PM): Rogean@gmail.com
(12:26:43 PM): send to that
djdaviddeere 12:26 pm
(12:26:43 PM): with 40 TMO in zone
CSN Rogean 12:26 pm
(12:26:46 PM): I can't read that on my cell phone
(12:27:34 PM): So heres the deal
CSN Rogean 12:30 pm
(12:30:04 PM): Yes we are short on staff and I do not have that much time at all to be at every raid to see what goes down.. screenshots do very little to prove things, logs even less, fraps only sometimes.. if there is even the slightest chance that they have a defense against what you perceive to be a disruption, we can't do anything about it.. thats why we simply have to be there. This is exactly why I put up a post to hire more guides... but I'm pretty sure you don't want jo shmo with 0 raid experience deciding raid disputes.. they need to have a background in it and understand all possible angles while remaining unbiased.. and you can not even imagine how hard it is to find people like that who don't have ties to friends in raiding guilds
(12:30:15 PM): with that said you also have a very biased opinion.. as is everyone's.. NOTHING is clear cut
djdaviddeere 12:31 pm
(12:31:25 PM): You could develop a system to prevent this stuff happening
(12:31:31 PM): why not have a mob shout what guild aggroed him
(12:31:38 PM): we have tons of GREAT evidence
(12:31:42 PM): yeah i know your tied up
(12:31:45 PM): RL comes first
(12:31:52 PM): but the scene is getting worse
djdaviddeere 12:32 pm
(12:32:05 PM): people being ignored, retaliation
CSN Rogean 12:32 pm
(12:32:06 PM): What I saw today were logs an dfraps of Zeelot doing what he did... how can I NOT act against that? If you were in TR right now.. put yourself in their shoes.. you're showing me evidence right now that can be argued in either direction about past raid disruptions... what I'm being shown by TR right now is clear cut proof of zeelot doing what he did and you aren't even denying it, you know it's true, what are we suppose to do? Not suspend you because we didn't have enough evidence to suspend TR in past situations? I would be playing RIGHT into the favoritism you are accusing me of right now
(12:32:13 PM): for god sakes take one minute to atleast attempt to put yourself in our shoes
djdaviddeere 12:32 pm
(12:32:57 PM): if i was in your shoes, id respond to TMO petitions as well as TRs
(12:33:14 PM): inconsitancy
(12:33:16 PM): is the problem here
CSN Rogean 12:33 pm
(12:33:19 PM): I certainly would too if I had more than 1 to 2 hours a day to work on the server
djdaviddeere 12:33 pm
(12:33:25 PM): you even suspended zeelot right before a trak pop
(12:33:28 PM): due to a bug from your side
(12:33:48 PM): this is a precedence of guild favoritsm, sorry
djdaviddeere 12:34 pm
(12:34:16 PM): just letting you know, we're done here if this is how its going to be
CSN Rogean 12:34 pm
(12:34:19 PM): was he not unsuspended minutes later?
(12:34:24 PM): he was
djdaviddeere 12:34 pm
(12:34:36 PM): yeah but that still affected trak, he was unsuspended after he died
(12:34:40 PM): and hes one of the major roles in our engage
(12:34:49 PM): assumptions
(12:34:52 PM): ass out of you and me
CSN Rogean 12:35 pm
(12:35:20 PM): so now you understand how something that can be perceived as a disruption (claims by TR that he stood up to gank aggro.. the fraps showed it, logs supported it) but yet some new evidence coming to light can turn the decision around entirely.. this is PRECISELY why we can not always suspend people or guilds based on what you claim to be 'clear cut evidence of a disruption'
(12:35:42 PM): You just proved my argument by bringing that situation up
djdaviddeere 12:36 pm
(12:36:42 PM): actually what we see now is how you respond to TR's petitions IMMEDIATELY, and leave ours in queue for months at a time without a response
(12:36:46 PM): rediculous lol
(12:37:28 PM): regardless of what zeelot may or may have not done.
the people are frustrated with the shady shit that has been happening
(12:37:33 PM): this is the result
(12:37:38 PM): stupid unnecessary shit
CSN Rogean 12:37 pm
(12:37:52 PM): That isn't exactly the case.. Amelinda showed me all the evidence for the sev situation and even reminded me again a day later to look at it again and come a conclusion.. we simply did not have enough proof to take action.. and that is the majority of situations
(12:38:20 PM): Also, this has nothing to do with the fact that you broke the rules and you knew you were doing it
djdaviddeere 12:38 pm
(12:38:39 PM): a majority of situations is TR ganking our shit, doing shady stuff, and getting away with it, but yet theres not enough evidence
djdaviddeere 12:39 pm
(12:39:18 PM): well we are done here man, it was fun, it was real, just wasnt real fun
CSN Rogean 12:39 pm
(12:39:18 PM): So let's say they stole your pull
(12:39:21 PM): lets say they uh
(12:39:23 PM): memory blur the mob
(12:39:26 PM): and then pull it
(12:39:27 PM): which clears the logs
(12:39:31 PM): What would you have me do
(12:39:34 PM): Take your word for it?
(12:39:38 PM): Favoritism.
djdaviddeere 12:39 pm
(12:39:38 PM): whatever man, this is off point
CSN Rogean 12:39 pm
(12:39:52 PM): Your fighting favoritism by advocating favoritism
djdaviddeere 12:40 pm
(12:40:04 PM): no, im fighitng the fact that serious petitions have been ignored
(12:40:06 PM): the draco petition
(12:40:13 PM): and the CT bullshit, with Awesome fraps of Kets fucking with us
(12:40:15 PM): lol
(12:40:27 PM): You should hear our officer vent right now
CSN Rogean 12:40 pm
(12:40:38 PM): You guys have basically been fucking with eachother for months now
djdaviddeere 12:40 pm
(12:40:39 PM): all of our people are sick of this shit
CSN Rogean 12:40 pm
(12:40:40 PM): it's going back and forth
djdaviddeere 12:40 pm
(12:40:45 PM): no actually
CSN Rogean 12:40 pm
(12:40:47 PM): do NOT pretend like you guys have been angels
djdaviddeere 12:40 pm
(12:40:50 PM): we were pretty civil with them for a while
(12:40:53 PM): backing out when they engage
(12:40:55 PM): shit like that
(12:41:02 PM): when they start to play dirty
(12:41:05 PM): and nothign is done
(12:41:08 PM): what do you think is going to happen?
(12:41:16 PM): do you say to a police officer when you get pulled over for speeding that "But the person in front of me was speeding too!"
djdaviddeere 12:41 pm
(12:41:28 PM): yes, people say they speed to go with the flow of traffic, and get out of traffic tickets
CSN Rogean 12:41 pm
(12:41:35 PM): If you had a situation that was as clear cut as what happened today you are welcome to post all the info in this aim window
(12:41:47 PM): I can garauntee you I do not ever ignore aim
(12:41:59 PM): Sometimes I don't respiond.. but I always see it
djdaviddeere 12:42 pm
(12:42:02 PM): yeah you've ignored me alot lol
(12:42:12 PM): Eccezan: Its ironic that in all of the "evidence" from raid encounters that you have reviewed as a GM on this server, you havent found 1 bit of eviedence to raid suspend IB/TR once, however with DA and TMO, you have found sufficient evidence to do it 3 times now?
CSN Rogean 12:42 pm
(12:42:12 PM): [13:41] Rogean: Sometimes I don't respiond.. but I always see it
(12:42:32 PM): TR has been raid suspended twice actually
(12:42:40 PM): they are just better at not leaking shit
djdaviddeere 12:42 pm
(12:42:54 PM): Trystch was banned for Training Ascension+TMO
(12:42:58 PM): during trak
(12:43:04 PM): and i saw them still compete for targets
(12:43:12 PM): and he was an officer
(12:43:19 PM): so yeah zeelot interfered, he should be suspended
(12:43:21 PM): why the whole guild
(12:43:26 PM): its inconsistancy
CSN Rogean 12:43 pm
(12:43:33 PM): I do not recall the Trystych situation
djdaviddeere 12:43 pm
(12:43:41 PM): Well uthgaard was the one who caught him
(12:43:50 PM): Eccezan: What is evident from that is that you and your "Friends" in TR / IB arent going to have much of a server to play with when we are done outting this latest corruption.
(12:44:17 PM): trystch even had his surname Banned, for being suspended 3 times
CSN Rogean 12:44 pm
(12:44:32 PM): Claim corruption all you want.. it is laughable that you think we are more corrupt punishing you for clear cut rule breaking than if we didn't do anything at all
djdaviddeere 12:45 pm
(12:45:06 PM): thats the problem, you havnt been doing ANYTHING at all, if you want to play that card, both guild sshould be suspended
(12:45:16 PM): Its laughable that you can pass this server off as fair
CSN Rogean 12:45 pm
(12:45:25 PM): I do not have clear cut evidence right in front of me of TR AE'ing mobs locked down by a competing guild
(12:45:31 PM): If I did, I gaurantee you they would be suspended
CSN Rogean 12:45 pm
(12:45:41 PM): Look at the track record
(12:45:46 PM): How many people in TR have been banned/suspended
(12:45:51 PM): You've seen it on the forums
(12:46:04 PM): People that you claim to be my friends
djdaviddeere 12:46 pm
(12:46:16 PM): Jeremy: Why, after being able to reverse-engineer Everquest, one of the most complicated games ever, are you not able to implement a system that will provides clear-cut answers to questions regarding questionable acts in raid situations?
(12:46:33 PM): Eccezan: And where is the fairness when equal access to GM's is not given? When one guild is able to get a petitioon answered within 24 hours, while another guild must wait over a month? What is the difference here? Is it legit for certain players to get special
Eccezan: treament over others?
CSN Rogean 12:47 pm
(12:47:55 PM): how about this then
(12:47:58 PM): I'm probably going to be doing this anyways
(12:48:05 PM): I'm going to open a new forum
djdaviddeere 12:48 pm
(12:48:08 PM): Eccezan: For players like Eashan and Perun, high ranking members in TR, to be allowed to play again on characters that wer explicitly used to cheat. For you to put that in the guise of "for this sitaution we are goint o handle this one way"
CSN Rogean 12:48 pm
(12:48:13 PM): Stop pasting shit
(12:48:15 PM): I'm talking to you
(12:48:17 PM): not the whole damn guild
djdaviddeere 12:48 pm
(12:48:17 PM): yeah what the fuck is this i hear eashan was unbanned because he donated 10k
CSN Rogean 12:48 pm
(12:48:26 PM): Do you see Eashan online right now?
(12:48:30 PM): And he did not donate 10k
(12:48:43 PM): God you guys will believe anything
djdaviddeere 12:49 pm
(12:49:43 PM): like i said im pretty much done here, i was pasting this shit from all the anger from the people in the guild
CSN Rogean 12:49 pm
(12:49:47 PM): mysql> select charname, banned from account where charname = "Eashan";
+----------+--------+
| charname | banned |
+----------+--------+
| Eashan | 1 |
+----------+--------+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)
djdaviddeere 12:49 pm
(12:49:49 PM): i dont have time to listen and retype
CSN Rogean 12:50 pm
(12:50:04 PM): I don't either
(12:50:06 PM): Because I'm at work
(12:50:09 PM): I'm making time though
(12:50:25 PM): so let me tell you what I'm going to do
(12:50:28 PM): I'm going to put a new forum up
(12:50:31 PM): it's going to be called Raid Disputes
(12:50:37 PM): and all raid disputes will become public records
(12:50:46 PM): only guild leadership can post in the forum
(12:50:52 PM): and we will have all the evidence in those forums
(12:50:54 PM): for everyone to see

[Daldaen]

Not sure what you're going on about, but my response was obviously meant for Anger. If you apply it to yourself, I'm not sure why you're doing it.

And yes, the biggest reason any eqemu server stops developing is due to ungrateful fucks.

This is rants and flames right? I get to rant and flame.

Boxing should be allowed
WTB Cats on Moon
Remove Hybrid Exp
Add Maps
Add Spell Set loading
Add Target Rings
ZOMGZ Item Linking not classic
ZOMGZ Medding without your entire screen filled pre 35 not classic
Young mother fucking Doctors
Kiting Dragons
Using Anon/Roleplay cause bad and afraid better guild would find hidden dragon
WRU Velious

Those are all hot topics. Hot enough to be flamed.

[Harrison]

TMO imploding lol raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage

[nilbog]

You claimed from the beginning many times that your development of content on this server has nothing to do with whether people play on it or not

Why are you now blaming the player base for lack of development

Well not for mine in particular. I develop every day that I can. What I said in regards to players not affecting development was more along the lines of I don't care if 5 people played on the server, as long as they loved classic eq and that's why they were here.

We've lost a lot of developers due to the playerbase. And that's the main reason other servers lose interest in developing. It's the truth.

There's lots of players that are here for classic eq, and if you're one of them, that's great.

[Eccezan]

Well not for mine in particular. I develop every day that I can. What I said in regards to players not affecting development was more along the lines of I don't care if 5 people played on the server, as long as they loved classic eq and that's why they were here.

We've lost a lot of developers due to the playerbase. And that's the main reason other servers lose interest in developing. It's the truth.

There's lots of players that are here for classic eq, and if you're one of them, that's great.

.............unless you want to raid on a level playing field....otherwise just app TR / IB if you want to get away with cheating, regardless of the public outcry against it. Any force started up to oppose this will eventually be snuffed out by "friends of the family"

[Awwalike]

You claimed from the beginning many times that your development of content on this server has nothing to do with whether people play on it or not

Why are you now blaming the player base for lack of development

you really are not to bright, are you?

[Awwalike]

& Eccezan you are a whiny little bitch. stop playing if you don't like it here, oh wait you are addicted to p99 and couldn't quit if you wanted to. prediction: you anonymously reroll in a month and join TR like you were with them from the start.

[Eccezan]

Well not for mine in particular. I develop every day that I can. What I said in regards to players not affecting development was more along the lines of I don't care if 5 people played on the server, as long as they loved classic eq and that's why they were here.

We've lost a lot of developers due to the playerbase. And that's the main reason other servers lose interest in developing. It's the truth.

There's lots of players that are here for classic eq, and if you're one of them, that's great.

If this is true, then, why didnt you ban every single cheater that you caught red handed when you had the chance? You fucking blew it.

[Massive Marc]

Well not for mine in particular. I develop every day that I can. What I said in regards to players not affecting development was more along the lines of I don't care if 5 people played on the server, as long as they loved classic eq and that's why they were here.

We've lost a lot of developers due to the playerbase. And that's the main reason other servers lose interest in developing. It's the truth.

There's lots of players that are here for classic eq, and if you're one of them, that's great.

This is straight BS. Like you would pay to keep a server up for 5 people. Furthermore I doubt you'd waste your time developing for a dead server.

[Massive Marc]

If this is true, then, why didnt you ban every single cheater that you caught red handed when you had the chance? You fucking blew it.

Exactly

[Eccezan]

& Eccezan you are a whiny little bitch. stop playing if you don't like it here, oh wait you are addicted to p99 and couldn't quit if you wanted to. prediction: you anonymously reroll in a month and join TR like you were with them from the start.

Thanks for your much needed comment anonymous troll, but:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/4db77_ORIG-look_at_all_the_fucks_i_give.jpg

[nilbog]

If this is true, then, why didnt you ban every single cheater that you caught red handed when you had the chance? You fucking blew it.

That was my vote. Well, my initial vote was for them all to be deleveled to 5, with nothing.

This is straight BS. Like you would pay to keep a server up for 5 people. Furthermore I doubt you'd waste your time developing for a dead server.

Started with 0 people. Server was originally destined to have like 40-50. So fuck you too. I just wanted to make sure classic EQ didn't die.

You guys have no faith.

[Awwalike]

Thanks for your much needed comment anonymous troll, but:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/4db77_ORIG-look_at_all_the_fucks_i_give.jpg

yeah, having my forum name as my REAL name is pretty anonymous. I've been playing here longer than you have trash. suckle on a GMs dick for them to turn you into a dragon at the firepots.

[Silentone]

nilbog 2.0 i like it ..i mean i have work 9 to 5 like most people ..so this is the only eq fix i can get from those hours..(and i guess for the next week as well LOL) you sir make some interesting read for RNF =)

[Ames]

Nilbog-

So you grind away to 60, get into a top raiding guild...days of time only to find out playing field is not level. Damn, guess you get what you pay for!! Move to boston and become a fat racist piece of trash and you get play in your own sandbox with yo freens with flames on their sleeves.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/image.php?u=2881&dateline=1278736080&type=profile


Enjoy

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CSN Rogean (CSN Rogean) is available 11:56 am
djdaviddeere 11:56 am
(11:56:57 AM): your a shitty dev, cant even respond to the 3 other petitions that TR broke the rules
(11:57:01 AM): CSR rather
(11:57:04 AM): get your shit together
(11:57:18 AM): fuckin done with this server
CSN Rogean 11:57 am
(11:57:37 AM): cya
djdaviddeere 11:57 am
(11:57:55 AM): goodluck with this dying server
djdaviddeere 11:59 am
(11:59:35 AM): last week on sev, TR stole our FTE pull, and NOTHING was done, then Xzerion calls you and you help them within hours
CSN Rogean 12:00 pm
(12:00:54 PM): so you're all up in my grill automatically assuming I'm responsible for everything
(12:00:58 PM): I'm at work atm
djdaviddeere 12:00 pm
(12:00:58 PM): yes
(12:01:00 PM): its your server
CSN Rogean 12:01 pm
(12:01:07 PM): "Your a shitty dev"
djdaviddeere 12:01 pm
(12:01:15 PM): CSR
CSN Rogean 12:01 pm
(12:01:16 PM): How about
(12:01:19 PM): you try a different approach
(12:01:23 PM): and then maybe we can have a conversation
djdaviddeere 12:01 pm
(12:01:28 PM): like what? being calm and putting in civil petitions
(12:01:31 PM): that are ignored for months
(12:01:32 PM): rediculous
(12:01:46 PM): you ignore me on aim for the most part
(12:01:49 PM): so i know you dont give a fuck
CSN Rogean 12:01 pm
(12:01:51 PM): I didn't say it had to be a post, we can talk here, but certainly not with your attitude coming at me like that
(12:01:59 PM): I'm going to go grab a sub
(12:02:06 PM): when I come back we can chat if you lose the attitude
(12:02:16 PM): brb 10 mins
djdaviddeere 12:11 pm
(12:11:10 PM): yeah pretty much most of TMO is gonna quit this server if this is the case, but let me know when your back
CSN Rogean 12:18 pm
(12:18:52 PM): ok so
(12:18:54 PM): Basically
(12:19:12 PM): TR was fighting Venril Sathir at the zone in (which they will be told not to do anymore along with everyone else) and they had a pile of mobs locked down by AE Mez
(12:19:20 PM): Zeelot ran into that pile of mobs and casted an AE on them
(12:19:27 PM): Twice.
djdaviddeere 12:20 pm
(12:20:28 PM): Is this logged or something?
(12:20:34 PM): whats your email
(12:20:45 PM): we got 2 petitions with TONS of fraps with TR raid interferring
(12:20:48 PM): not a GOD damn thing was done
CSN Rogean 12:23 pm
(12:23:08 PM): So your are defending yourself by saying "But they were doing it too!" from a different situation
djdaviddeere 12:23 pm
(12:23:14 PM): no
(12:23:17 PM): its pretty fucking pathetic
(12:23:20 PM): that nothing is done to these guys
(12:23:22 PM): after all the bullshit
(12:23:25 PM): officers using SEQ
(12:23:28 PM): im tellin you, im done with this server
(12:23:33 PM): bringing most of TMO with us
CSN Rogean 12:23 pm
(12:23:34 PM): do you say to a police officer when you get pulled over for speeding that "But the person in front of me was speeding too!"
djdaviddeere 12:23 pm
(12:23:38 PM): everyone is FED up
(12:23:41 PM): doesnt matter
(12:23:48 PM): this is the kind of shit that happens with the scene is ignored
(12:23:54 PM): and projections of favoritism are present
(12:24:03 PM): you are doing this to yourself
CSN Rogean 12:24 pm
(12:24:23 PM): I hear the fippy server has some awesome gm decisions going on, maybe you should try there then
djdaviddeere 12:24 pm
(12:24:31 PM): ive got something better
djdaviddeere 12:25 pm
(12:25:53 PM): not being consistant is the problem here
(12:26:28 PM): http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/943243EQ000089.png
(12:26:34 PM): TR should be fucking suspended from this last week
(12:26:41 PM): McBard also pulled Talendor with 2 TR in zone
CSN Rogean 12:26 pm
(12:26:42 PM): Rogean@gmail.com
(12:26:43 PM): send to that
djdaviddeere 12:26 pm
(12:26:43 PM): with 40 TMO in zone
CSN Rogean 12:26 pm
(12:26:46 PM): I can't read that on my cell phone
(12:27:34 PM): So heres the deal
CSN Rogean 12:30 pm
(12:30:04 PM): Yes we are short on staff and I do not have that much time at all to be at every raid to see what goes down.. screenshots do very little to prove things, logs even less, fraps only sometimes.. if there is even the slightest chance that they have a defense against what you perceive to be a disruption, we can't do anything about it.. thats why we simply have to be there. This is exactly why I put up a post to hire more guides... but I'm pretty sure you don't want jo shmo with 0 raid experience deciding raid disputes.. they need to have a background in it and understand all possible angles while remaining unbiased.. and you can not even imagine how hard it is to find people like that who don't have ties to friends in raiding guilds
(12:30:15 PM): with that said you also have a very biased opinion.. as is everyone's.. NOTHING is clear cut
djdaviddeere 12:31 pm
(12:31:25 PM): You could develop a system to prevent this stuff happening
(12:31:31 PM): why not have a mob shout what guild aggroed him
(12:31:38 PM): we have tons of GREAT evidence
(12:31:42 PM): yeah i know your tied up
(12:31:45 PM): RL comes first
(12:31:52 PM): but the scene is getting worse
djdaviddeere 12:32 pm
(12:32:05 PM): people being ignored, retaliation
CSN Rogean 12:32 pm
(12:32:06 PM): What I saw today were logs an dfraps of Zeelot doing what he did... how can I NOT act against that? If you were in TR right now.. put yourself in their shoes.. you're showing me evidence right now that can be argued in either direction about past raid disruptions... what I'm being shown by TR right now is clear cut proof of zeelot doing what he did and you aren't even denying it, you know it's true, what are we suppose to do? Not suspend you because we didn't have enough evidence to suspend TR in past situations? I would be playing RIGHT into the favoritism you are accusing me of right now
(12:32:13 PM): for god sakes take one minute to atleast attempt to put yourself in our shoes
djdaviddeere 12:32 pm
(12:32:57 PM): if i was in your shoes, id respond to TMO petitions as well as TRs
(12:33:14 PM): inconsitancy
(12:33:16 PM): is the problem here
CSN Rogean 12:33 pm
(12:33:19 PM): I certainly would too if I had more than 1 to 2 hours a day to work on the server
djdaviddeere 12:33 pm
(12:33:25 PM): you even suspended zeelot right before a trak pop
(12:33:28 PM): due to a bug from your side
(12:33:48 PM): this is a precedence of guild favoritsm, sorry
djdaviddeere 12:34 pm
(12:34:16 PM): just letting you know, we're done here if this is how its going to be
CSN Rogean 12:34 pm
(12:34:19 PM): was he not unsuspended minutes later?
(12:34:24 PM): he was
djdaviddeere 12:34 pm
(12:34:36 PM): yeah but that still affected trak, he was unsuspended after he died
(12:34:40 PM): and hes one of the major roles in our engage
(12:34:49 PM): assumptions
(12:34:52 PM): ass out of you and me
CSN Rogean 12:35 pm
(12:35:20 PM): so now you understand how something that can be perceived as a disruption (claims by TR that he stood up to gank aggro.. the fraps showed it, logs supported it) but yet some new evidence coming to light can turn the decision around entirely.. this is PRECISELY why we can not always suspend people or guilds based on what you claim to be 'clear cut evidence of a disruption'
(12:35:42 PM): You just proved my argument by bringing that situation up
djdaviddeere 12:36 pm
(12:36:42 PM): actually what we see now is how you respond to TR's petitions IMMEDIATELY, and leave ours in queue for months at a time without a response
(12:36:46 PM): rediculous lol
(12:37:28 PM): regardless of what zeelot may or may have not done.
the people are frustrated with the shady shit that has been happening
(12:37:33 PM): this is the result
(12:37:38 PM): stupid unnecessary shit
CSN Rogean 12:37 pm
(12:37:52 PM): That isn't exactly the case.. Amelinda showed me all the evidence for the sev situation and even reminded me again a day later to look at it again and come a conclusion.. we simply did not have enough proof to take action.. and that is the majority of situations
(12:38:20 PM): Also, this has nothing to do with the fact that you broke the rules and you knew you were doing it
djdaviddeere 12:38 pm
(12:38:39 PM): a majority of situations is TR ganking our shit, doing shady stuff, and getting away with it, but yet theres not enough evidence
djdaviddeere 12:39 pm
(12:39:18 PM): well we are done here man, it was fun, it was real, just wasnt real fun
CSN Rogean 12:39 pm
(12:39:18 PM): So let's say they stole your pull
(12:39:21 PM): lets say they uh
(12:39:23 PM): memory blur the mob
(12:39:26 PM): and then pull it
(12:39:27 PM): which clears the logs
(12:39:31 PM): What would you have me do
(12:39:34 PM): Take your word for it?
(12:39:38 PM): Favoritism.
djdaviddeere 12:39 pm
(12:39:38 PM): whatever man, this is off point
CSN Rogean 12:39 pm
(12:39:52 PM): Your fighting favoritism by advocating favoritism
djdaviddeere 12:40 pm
(12:40:04 PM): no, im fighitng the fact that serious petitions have been ignored
(12:40:06 PM): the draco petition
(12:40:13 PM): and the CT bullshit, with Awesome fraps of Kets fucking with us
(12:40:15 PM): lol
(12:40:27 PM): You should hear our officer vent right now
CSN Rogean 12:40 pm
(12:40:38 PM): You guys have basically been fucking with eachother for months now
djdaviddeere 12:40 pm
(12:40:39 PM): all of our people are sick of this shit
CSN Rogean 12:40 pm
(12:40:40 PM): it's going back and forth
djdaviddeere 12:40 pm
(12:40:45 PM): no actually
CSN Rogean 12:40 pm
(12:40:47 PM): do NOT pretend like you guys have been angels
djdaviddeere 12:40 pm
(12:40:50 PM): we were pretty civil with them for a while
(12:40:53 PM): backing out when they engage
(12:40:55 PM): shit like that
(12:41:02 PM): when they start to play dirty
(12:41:05 PM): and nothign is done
(12:41:08 PM): what do you think is going to happen?
(12:41:16 PM): do you say to a police officer when you get pulled over for speeding that "But the person in front of me was speeding too!"
djdaviddeere 12:41 pm
(12:41:28 PM): yes, people say they speed to go with the flow of traffic, and get out of traffic tickets
CSN Rogean 12:41 pm
(12:41:35 PM): If you had a situation that was as clear cut as what happened today you are welcome to post all the info in this aim window
(12:41:47 PM): I can garauntee you I do not ever ignore aim
(12:41:59 PM): Sometimes I don't respiond.. but I always see it
djdaviddeere 12:42 pm
(12:42:02 PM): yeah you've ignored me alot lol
(12:42:12 PM): Eccezan: Its ironic that in all of the "evidence" from raid encounters that you have reviewed as a GM on this server, you havent found 1 bit of eviedence to raid suspend IB/TR once, however with DA and TMO, you have found sufficient evidence to do it 3 times now?
CSN Rogean 12:42 pm
(12:42:12 PM): [13:41] Rogean: Sometimes I don't respiond.. but I always see it
(12:42:32 PM): TR has been raid suspended twice actually
(12:42:40 PM): they are just better at not leaking shit
djdaviddeere 12:42 pm
(12:42:54 PM): Trystch was banned for Training Ascension+TMO
(12:42:58 PM): during trak
(12:43:04 PM): and i saw them still compete for targets
(12:43:12 PM): and he was an officer
(12:43:19 PM): so yeah zeelot interfered, he should be suspended
(12:43:21 PM): why the whole guild
(12:43:26 PM): its inconsistancy
CSN Rogean 12:43 pm
(12:43:33 PM): I do not recall the Trystych situation
djdaviddeere 12:43 pm
(12:43:41 PM): Well uthgaard was the one who caught him
(12:43:50 PM): Eccezan: What is evident from that is that you and your "Friends" in TR / IB arent going to have much of a server to play with when we are done outting this latest corruption.
(12:44:17 PM): trystch even had his surname Banned, for being suspended 3 times
CSN Rogean 12:44 pm
(12:44:32 PM): Claim corruption all you want.. it is laughable that you think we are more corrupt punishing you for clear cut rule breaking than if we didn't do anything at all
djdaviddeere 12:45 pm
(12:45:06 PM): thats the problem, you havnt been doing ANYTHING at all, if you want to play that card, both guild sshould be suspended
(12:45:16 PM): Its laughable that you can pass this server off as fair
CSN Rogean 12:45 pm
(12:45:25 PM): I do not have clear cut evidence right in front of me of TR AE'ing mobs locked down by a competing guild
(12:45:31 PM): If I did, I gaurantee you they would be suspended
CSN Rogean 12:45 pm
(12:45:41 PM): Look at the track record
(12:45:46 PM): How many people in TR have been banned/suspended
(12:45:51 PM): You've seen it on the forums
(12:46:04 PM): People that you claim to be my friends
djdaviddeere 12:46 pm
(12:46:16 PM): Jeremy: Why, after being able to reverse-engineer Everquest, one of the most complicated games ever, are you not able to implement a system that will provides clear-cut answers to questions regarding questionable acts in raid situations?
(12:46:33 PM): Eccezan: And where is the fairness when equal access to GM's is not given? When one guild is able to get a petitioon answered within 24 hours, while another guild must wait over a month? What is the difference here? Is it legit for certain players to get special
Eccezan: treament over others?
CSN Rogean 12:47 pm
(12:47:55 PM): how about this then
(12:47:58 PM): I'm probably going to be doing this anyways
(12:48:05 PM): I'm going to open a new forum
djdaviddeere 12:48 pm
(12:48:08 PM): Eccezan: For players like Eashan and Perun, high ranking members in TR, to be allowed to play again on characters that wer explicitly used to cheat. For you to put that in the guise of "for this sitaution we are goint o handle this one way"
CSN Rogean 12:48 pm
(12:48:13 PM): Stop pasting shit
(12:48:15 PM): I'm talking to you
(12:48:17 PM): not the whole damn guild
djdaviddeere 12:48 pm
(12:48:17 PM): yeah what the fuck is this i hear eashan was unbanned because he donated 10k
CSN Rogean 12:48 pm
(12:48:26 PM): Do you see Eashan online right now?
(12:48:30 PM): And he did not donate 10k
(12:48:43 PM): God you guys will believe anything
djdaviddeere 12:49 pm
(12:49:43 PM): like i said im pretty much done here, i was pasting this shit from all the anger from the people in the guild
CSN Rogean 12:49 pm
(12:49:47 PM): mysql> select charname, banned from account where charname = "Eashan";
+----------+--------+
| charname | banned |
+----------+--------+
| Eashan | 1 |
+----------+--------+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)
djdaviddeere 12:49 pm
(12:49:49 PM): i dont have time to listen and retype
CSN Rogean 12:50 pm
(12:50:04 PM): I don't either
(12:50:06 PM): Because I'm at work
(12:50:09 PM): I'm making time though
(12:50:25 PM): so let me tell you what I'm going to do
(12:50:28 PM): I'm going to put a new forum up
(12:50:31 PM): it's going to be called Raid Disputes
(12:50:37 PM): and all raid disputes will become public records
(12:50:46 PM): only guild leadership can post in the forum
(12:50:52 PM): and we will have all the evidence in those forums
(12:50:54 PM): for everyone to see

TLDR

[JenJen]

got to admit its pretty funny some of the stuff said in that log.

why is TMO quitting p99 considered a "threat"?

nobody pays to play p99 - no financial loss
other guilds can enjoy raiding in TMO's place - still a happy general population

but come on....we all know those are some empty "threats" anyway - as if you lvl 60s are willing to give up all those days and months /played to begin on a diff server as an "average joe" so to speak ;)

[booter]

Nilbog in RnF?

F5http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-f5h.gif

[Eccezan]

That was my vote. Well, my initial vote was for them all to be deleveled to 5, with nothing.



Started with 0 people. Server was originally destined to have like 40-50. So fuck you too. I just wanted to make sure classic EQ didn't die.

You guys have no faith.

Let me guess, soon as rogean saw who the actual people that would be fucked was...."Hmmmm lets not ban them entirely" Earth to Nilbog -- Rogean has friends in IB/TR who he talks with reguarly... Eashan is one of the 60'ish people on his facebook friends. Whether this plays a part in decision making is just heresay, but the PERCEPTION and ACTUALITY is that it does. We all know of the shitbag Eashan is trying to get favors from Uthgaard when he was here. Read the dialogue I posted above. Legit servers dont remain successful with CSR's that behave in such an unfair manner. Call it whining or not. Its bullshit that one guild has been in essence continuously beat down because of "INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE" with no response for literally months by the actual decision makers. While another guild has a direct channel to get an entire raiding guild suspended within 24 hours.

This is corruption. Sort it out, or fail eventually. The population speaks for itself. People spend lifetimes in a game like this, for it not to be fair, or for it to not even be PERCEIVED as fair is terrible.

[Ames]

got to admit its pretty funny some of the stuff said in that log.

why is TMO quitting p99 considered a "threat"?

nobody pays to play p99 - no financial loss
other guilds can enjoy raiding in TMO's place - still a happy general population

but come on....we all know those are some empty "threats" anyway - as if you lvl 60s are willing to give up all those days and months /played to begin on a diff server as an "average joe" so to speak ;)

Not that i give a fuck about guild drama - BUT, If all of TMO's members left the server that is at least 100-150 gone from a server that is only hitting 400ish max players as of late. 1/4th of your player base leaving is a pretty big thing.

[Awwalike]

TLDR

basically what Eccezan is trying to say is that he is mad butthurt that he is so addicted to this game and that he cannot quit. furthermore, he is so mad he can't kill dragons with his 150 pals because a group of 30 have an 'unfair advantage'.

[Sold]

.............unless you want to raid on a level playing field....otherwise just app TR / IB if you want to get away with cheating, regardless of the public outcry against it. Any force started up to oppose this will eventually be snuffed out by "friends of the family"


wait... you mad brew? QQ? Get yourself a tissue and tell me about it.

[Eccezan]

basically what Eccezan is trying to say is that he is mad butthurt that he is so addicted to this game and that he cannot quit. furthermore, he is so mad he can't kill dragons with his 150 pals because a group of 30 have an 'unfair advantage'.

Did you not see my meme?

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/4db77_ORIG-look_at_all_the_fucks_i_give.jpg

[Awwalike]

an entire raiding guild suspended within 24 hours.

This is corruption. Sort it out, or fail eventually. The population speaks for itself. People spend lifetimes in a game like this, for it not to be fair, or for it to not even be PERCEIVED as fair is terrible.

1. butthurt 'cause suspended
2. tmo is not the server population, about half though
3. only you are spending your lifetime here nerd
4. get the fuck over it and go outside until you can raid again

[Papa]

Its bullshit that one guild has been in essence continuously beat down because of "INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE" with no response for literally months by the actual decision makers. While another guild has a direct channel to get an entire raiding guild suspended within 24 hours.

maybe you missed the few months where TR also received no response for petitions of in game shenanigans.

[Eccezan]

1. butthurt 'cause suspended
2. tmo is not the server population, about half though
3. only you are spending your lifetime here nerd
4. get the fuck over it and go outside until you can raid again

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/4db77_ORIG-look_at_all_the_fucks_i_give.jpg

[Sold]

Nilbog-

So you grind away to 60, get into a top raiding guild...days of time only to find out playing field is not level. Damn, guess you get what you pay for!! Move to boston and become a fat racist piece of trash and you get play in your own sandbox with yo freens with flames on their sleeves.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/image.php?u=2881&dateline=1278736080&type=profile


Enjoy

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CSN Rogean (CSN Rogean) is available 11:56 am
djdaviddeere 11:56 am
(11:56:57 AM): your a shitty dev, cant even respond to the 3 other petitions that TR broke the rules
(11:57:01 AM): CSR rather
(11:57:04 AM): get your shit together
(11:57:18 AM): fuckin done with this server
CSN Rogean 11:57 am
(11:57:37 AM): cya
djdaviddeere 11:57 am
(11:57:55 AM): goodluck with this dying server
djdaviddeere 11:59 am
(11:59:35 AM): last week on sev, TR stole our FTE pull, and NOTHING was done, then Xzerion calls you and you help them within hours
CSN Rogean 12:00 pm
(12:00:54 PM): so you're all up in my grill automatically assuming I'm responsible for everything
(12:00:58 PM): I'm at work atm
djdaviddeere 12:00 pm
(12:00:58 PM): yes
(12:01:00 PM): its your server
CSN Rogean 12:01 pm
(12:01:07 PM): "Your a shitty dev"
djdaviddeere 12:01 pm
(12:01:15 PM): CSR
CSN Rogean 12:01 pm
(12:01:16 PM): How about
(12:01:19 PM): you try a different approach
(12:01:23 PM): and then maybe we can have a conversation
djdaviddeere 12:01 pm
(12:01:28 PM): like what? being calm and putting in civil petitions
(12:01:31 PM): that are ignored for months
(12:01:32 PM): rediculous
(12:01:46 PM): you ignore me on aim for the most part
(12:01:49 PM): so i know you dont give a fuck
CSN Rogean 12:01 pm
(12:01:51 PM): I didn't say it had to be a post, we can talk here, but certainly not with your attitude coming at me like that
(12:01:59 PM): I'm going to go grab a sub
(12:02:06 PM): when I come back we can chat if you lose the attitude
(12:02:16 PM): brb 10 mins
djdaviddeere 12:11 pm
(12:11:10 PM): yeah pretty much most of TMO is gonna quit this server if this is the case, but let me know when your back
CSN Rogean 12:18 pm
(12:18:52 PM): ok so
(12:18:54 PM): Basically
(12:19:12 PM): TR was fighting Venril Sathir at the zone in (which they will be told not to do anymore along with everyone else) and they had a pile of mobs locked down by AE Mez
(12:19:20 PM): Zeelot ran into that pile of mobs and casted an AE on them
(12:19:27 PM): Twice.
djdaviddeere 12:20 pm
(12:20:28 PM): Is this logged or something?
(12:20:34 PM): whats your email
(12:20:45 PM): we got 2 petitions with TONS of fraps with TR raid interferring
(12:20:48 PM): not a GOD damn thing was done
CSN Rogean 12:23 pm
(12:23:08 PM): So your are defending yourself by saying "But they were doing it too!" from a different situation
djdaviddeere 12:23 pm
(12:23:14 PM): no
(12:23:17 PM): its pretty fucking pathetic
(12:23:20 PM): that nothing is done to these guys
(12:23:22 PM): after all the bullshit
(12:23:25 PM): officers using SEQ
(12:23:28 PM): im tellin you, im done with this server
(12:23:33 PM): bringing most of TMO with us
CSN Rogean 12:23 pm
(12:23:34 PM): do you say to a police officer when you get pulled over for speeding that "But the person in front of me was speeding too!"
djdaviddeere 12:23 pm
(12:23:38 PM): everyone is FED up
(12:23:41 PM): doesnt matter
(12:23:48 PM): this is the kind of shit that happens with the scene is ignored
(12:23:54 PM): and projections of favoritism are present
(12:24:03 PM): you are doing this to yourself
CSN Rogean 12:24 pm
(12:24:23 PM): I hear the fippy server has some awesome gm decisions going on, maybe you should try there then
djdaviddeere 12:24 pm
(12:24:31 PM): ive got something better
djdaviddeere 12:25 pm
(12:25:53 PM): not being consistant is the problem here
(12:26:28 PM): http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/943243EQ000089.png
(12:26:34 PM): TR should be fucking suspended from this last week
(12:26:41 PM): McBard also pulled Talendor with 2 TR in zone
CSN Rogean 12:26 pm
(12:26:42 PM): Rogean@gmail.com
(12:26:43 PM): send to that
djdaviddeere 12:26 pm
(12:26:43 PM): with 40 TMO in zone
CSN Rogean 12:26 pm
(12:26:46 PM): I can't read that on my cell phone
(12:27:34 PM): So heres the deal
CSN Rogean 12:30 pm
(12:30:04 PM): Yes we are short on staff and I do not have that much time at all to be at every raid to see what goes down.. screenshots do very little to prove things, logs even less, fraps only sometimes.. if there is even the slightest chance that they have a defense against what you perceive to be a disruption, we can't do anything about it.. thats why we simply have to be there. This is exactly why I put up a post to hire more guides... but I'm pretty sure you don't want jo shmo with 0 raid experience deciding raid disputes.. they need to have a background in it and understand all possible angles while remaining unbiased.. and you can not even imagine how hard it is to find people like that who don't have ties to friends in raiding guilds
(12:30:15 PM): with that said you also have a very biased opinion.. as is everyone's.. NOTHING is clear cut
djdaviddeere 12:31 pm
(12:31:25 PM): You could develop a system to prevent this stuff happening
(12:31:31 PM): why not have a mob shout what guild aggroed him
(12:31:38 PM): we have tons of GREAT evidence
(12:31:42 PM): yeah i know your tied up
(12:31:45 PM): RL comes first
(12:31:52 PM): but the scene is getting worse
djdaviddeere 12:32 pm
(12:32:05 PM): people being ignored, retaliation
CSN Rogean 12:32 pm
(12:32:06 PM): What I saw today were logs an dfraps of Zeelot doing what he did... how can I NOT act against that? If you were in TR right now.. put yourself in their shoes.. you're showing me evidence right now that can be argued in either direction about past raid disruptions... what I'm being shown by TR right now is clear cut proof of zeelot doing what he did and you aren't even denying it, you know it's true, what are we suppose to do? Not suspend you because we didn't have enough evidence to suspend TR in past situations? I would be playing RIGHT into the favoritism you are accusing me of right now
(12:32:13 PM): for god sakes take one minute to atleast attempt to put yourself in our shoes
djdaviddeere 12:32 pm
(12:32:57 PM): if i was in your shoes, id respond to TMO petitions as well as TRs
(12:33:14 PM): inconsitancy
(12:33:16 PM): is the problem here
CSN Rogean 12:33 pm
(12:33:19 PM): I certainly would too if I had more than 1 to 2 hours a day to work on the server
djdaviddeere 12:33 pm
(12:33:25 PM): you even suspended zeelot right before a trak pop
(12:33:28 PM): due to a bug from your side
(12:33:48 PM): this is a precedence of guild favoritsm, sorry
djdaviddeere 12:34 pm
(12:34:16 PM): just letting you know, we're done here if this is how its going to be
CSN Rogean 12:34 pm
(12:34:19 PM): was he not unsuspended minutes later?
(12:34:24 PM): he was
djdaviddeere 12:34 pm
(12:34:36 PM): yeah but that still affected trak, he was unsuspended after he died
(12:34:40 PM): and hes one of the major roles in our engage
(12:34:49 PM): assumptions
(12:34:52 PM): ass out of you and me
CSN Rogean 12:35 pm
(12:35:20 PM): so now you understand how something that can be perceived as a disruption (claims by TR that he stood up to gank aggro.. the fraps showed it, logs supported it) but yet some new evidence coming to light can turn the decision around entirely.. this is PRECISELY why we can not always suspend people or guilds based on what you claim to be 'clear cut evidence of a disruption'
(12:35:42 PM): You just proved my argument by bringing that situation up
djdaviddeere 12:36 pm
(12:36:42 PM): actually what we see now is how you respond to TR's petitions IMMEDIATELY, and leave ours in queue for months at a time without a response
(12:36:46 PM): rediculous lol
(12:37:28 PM): regardless of what zeelot may or may have not done.
the people are frustrated with the shady shit that has been happening
(12:37:33 PM): this is the result
(12:37:38 PM): stupid unnecessary shit
CSN Rogean 12:37 pm
(12:37:52 PM): That isn't exactly the case.. Amelinda showed me all the evidence for the sev situation and even reminded me again a day later to look at it again and come a conclusion.. we simply did not have enough proof to take action.. and that is the majority of situations
(12:38:20 PM): Also, this has nothing to do with the fact that you broke the rules and you knew you were doing it
djdaviddeere 12:38 pm
(12:38:39 PM): a majority of situations is TR ganking our shit, doing shady stuff, and getting away with it, but yet theres not enough evidence
djdaviddeere 12:39 pm
(12:39:18 PM): well we are done here man, it was fun, it was real, just wasnt real fun
CSN Rogean 12:39 pm
(12:39:18 PM): So let's say they stole your pull
(12:39:21 PM): lets say they uh
(12:39:23 PM): memory blur the mob
(12:39:26 PM): and then pull it
(12:39:27 PM): which clears the logs
(12:39:31 PM): What would you have me do
(12:39:34 PM): Take your word for it?
(12:39:38 PM): Favoritism.
djdaviddeere 12:39 pm
(12:39:38 PM): whatever man, this is off point
CSN Rogean 12:39 pm
(12:39:52 PM): Your fighting favoritism by advocating favoritism
djdaviddeere 12:40 pm
(12:40:04 PM): no, im fighitng the fact that serious petitions have been ignored
(12:40:06 PM): the draco petition
(12:40:13 PM): and the CT bullshit, with Awesome fraps of Kets fucking with us
(12:40:15 PM): lol
(12:40:27 PM): You should hear our officer vent right now
CSN Rogean 12:40 pm
(12:40:38 PM): You guys have basically been fucking with eachother for months now
djdaviddeere 12:40 pm
(12:40:39 PM): all of our people are sick of this shit
CSN Rogean 12:40 pm
(12:40:40 PM): it's going back and forth
djdaviddeere 12:40 pm
(12:40:45 PM): no actually
CSN Rogean 12:40 pm
(12:40:47 PM): do NOT pretend like you guys have been angels
djdaviddeere 12:40 pm
(12:40:50 PM): we were pretty civil with them for a while
(12:40:53 PM): backing out when they engage
(12:40:55 PM): shit like that
(12:41:02 PM): when they start to play dirty
(12:41:05 PM): and nothign is done
(12:41:08 PM): what do you think is going to happen?
(12:41:16 PM): do you say to a police officer when you get pulled over for speeding that "But the person in front of me was speeding too!"
djdaviddeere 12:41 pm
(12:41:28 PM): yes, people say they speed to go with the flow of traffic, and get out of traffic tickets
CSN Rogean 12:41 pm
(12:41:35 PM): If you had a situation that was as clear cut as what happened today you are welcome to post all the info in this aim window
(12:41:47 PM): I can garauntee you I do not ever ignore aim
(12:41:59 PM): Sometimes I don't respiond.. but I always see it
djdaviddeere 12:42 pm
(12:42:02 PM): yeah you've ignored me alot lol
(12:42:12 PM): Eccezan: Its ironic that in all of the "evidence" from raid encounters that you have reviewed as a GM on this server, you havent found 1 bit of eviedence to raid suspend IB/TR once, however with DA and TMO, you have found sufficient evidence to do it 3 times now?
CSN Rogean 12:42 pm
(12:42:12 PM): [13:41] Rogean: Sometimes I don't respiond.. but I always see it
(12:42:32 PM): TR has been raid suspended twice actually
(12:42:40 PM): they are just better at not leaking shit
djdaviddeere 12:42 pm
(12:42:54 PM): Trystch was banned for Training Ascension+TMO
(12:42:58 PM): during trak
(12:43:04 PM): and i saw them still compete for targets
(12:43:12 PM): and he was an officer
(12:43:19 PM): so yeah zeelot interfered, he should be suspended
(12:43:21 PM): why the whole guild
(12:43:26 PM): its inconsistancy
CSN Rogean 12:43 pm
(12:43:33 PM): I do not recall the Trystych situation
djdaviddeere 12:43 pm
(12:43:41 PM): Well uthgaard was the one who caught him
(12:43:50 PM): Eccezan: What is evident from that is that you and your "Friends" in TR / IB arent going to have much of a server to play with when we are done outting this latest corruption.
(12:44:17 PM): trystch even had his surname Banned, for being suspended 3 times
CSN Rogean 12:44 pm
(12:44:32 PM): Claim corruption all you want.. it is laughable that you think we are more corrupt punishing you for clear cut rule breaking than if we didn't do anything at all
djdaviddeere 12:45 pm
(12:45:06 PM): thats the problem, you havnt been doing ANYTHING at all, if you want to play that card, both guild sshould be suspended
(12:45:16 PM): Its laughable that you can pass this server off as fair
CSN Rogean 12:45 pm
(12:45:25 PM): I do not have clear cut evidence right in front of me of TR AE'ing mobs locked down by a competing guild
(12:45:31 PM): If I did, I gaurantee you they would be suspended
CSN Rogean 12:45 pm
(12:45:41 PM): Look at the track record
(12:45:46 PM): How many people in TR have been banned/suspended
(12:45:51 PM): You've seen it on the forums
(12:46:04 PM): People that you claim to be my friends
djdaviddeere 12:46 pm
(12:46:16 PM): Jeremy: Why, after being able to reverse-engineer Everquest, one of the most complicated games ever, are you not able to implement a system that will provides clear-cut answers to questions regarding questionable acts in raid situations?
(12:46:33 PM): Eccezan: And where is the fairness when equal access to GM's is not given? When one guild is able to get a petitioon answered within 24 hours, while another guild must wait over a month? What is the difference here? Is it legit for certain players to get special
Eccezan: treament over others?
CSN Rogean 12:47 pm
(12:47:55 PM): how about this then
(12:47:58 PM): I'm probably going to be doing this anyways
(12:48:05 PM): I'm going to open a new forum
djdaviddeere 12:48 pm
(12:48:08 PM): Eccezan: For players like Eashan and Perun, high ranking members in TR, to be allowed to play again on characters that wer explicitly used to cheat. For you to put that in the guise of "for this sitaution we are goint o handle this one way"
CSN Rogean 12:48 pm
(12:48:13 PM): Stop pasting shit
(12:48:15 PM): I'm talking to you
(12:48:17 PM): not the whole damn guild
djdaviddeere 12:48 pm
(12:48:17 PM): yeah what the fuck is this i hear eashan was unbanned because he donated 10k
CSN Rogean 12:48 pm
(12:48:26 PM): Do you see Eashan online right now?
(12:48:30 PM): And he did not donate 10k
(12:48:43 PM): God you guys will believe anything
djdaviddeere 12:49 pm
(12:49:43 PM): like i said im pretty much done here, i was pasting this shit from all the anger from the people in the guild
CSN Rogean 12:49 pm
(12:49:47 PM): mysql> select charname, banned from account where charname = "Eashan";
+----------+--------+
| charname | banned |
+----------+--------+
| Eashan | 1 |
+----------+--------+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)
djdaviddeere 12:49 pm
(12:49:49 PM): i dont have time to listen and retype
CSN Rogean 12:50 pm
(12:50:04 PM): I don't either
(12:50:06 PM): Because I'm at work
(12:50:09 PM): I'm making time though
(12:50:25 PM): so let me tell you what I'm going to do
(12:50:28 PM): I'm going to put a new forum up
(12:50:31 PM): it's going to be called Raid Disputes
(12:50:37 PM): and all raid disputes will become public records
(12:50:46 PM): only guild leadership can post in the forum
(12:50:52 PM): and we will have all the evidence in those forums
(12:50:54 PM): for everyone to see

LOL! this post and he's implying that hes not QQing. Mad brew? Tissue?

[Eccezan]

maybe you missed the few months where TR also received no response for petitions of in game shenanigans.

Okay...so where doest his make all of a sudden raid suspending an entire as a FUCKING SOLUTION TO THIS?

Oh wait...It has happened before...Oh yea, back when Inglorious Basterds were dieing before....I remember....Trend?

[bluejam]

Haven't read through all of that log between Mr. DJ and Rogean, but this is where I couldn't hold it in any longer:

CSN Rogean 12:24 pm
(12:24:23 PM): I hear the fippy server has some awesome gm decisions going on, maybe you should try there then

Also when Mr. Deere didn't even respond to any of the rule breaking stuff (like VS).

[Awwalike]

I bet Eccezan is biting his nails frantically while spamming f5. hey man, it will be okay just take a few deep breaths, do your daily /petition hi guys turn me into dragon at firepots when you get chance so i kan scares people, and eat like 5 vicodin to calm yourself down.

[Sold]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/4db77_ORIG-look_at_all_the_fucks_i_give.jpg

then he posts this ..
Okay...so where doest his make all of a sudden raid suspending an entire as a FUCKING SOLUTION TO THIS?

Oh wait...It has happened before...Oh yea, back when Inglorious Basterds were dieing before....I remember....Trend?

Rotfl its called sunlight! U may be forced to leave the virgin room and go outside. Tissue?

[Eccezan]

Haven't read through all of that log between Mr. DJ and Rogean, but this is where I couldn't hold it in any longer:

CSN Rogean 12:24 pm
(12:24:23 PM): I hear the fippy server has some awesome gm decisions going on, maybe you should try there then

Also when Mr. Deere didn't even respond to any of the rule breaking stuff (like VS).

There has been rule breaking by both guilds. THIS IS FUCKING CLASSIC EVERQUEST.


Make it FFA and bud the fuck out, or keep it even punish both sides evenly and CONSISTENTLY. To have one guild take a fucking raid suspension for bullshit reasons while the other guild with known affiliations to GM's gets off scot free is complete and utter bullshit. Call it as you may. And regarding my QQ'ing... Read my rants and flames, or go to your other web browser and continue fapping.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/4db77_ORIG-look_at_all_the_fucks_i_give.jpg

[Sold]

Eccezan you come across as a total moron. You react in a childish manner when unable to get your own way and seem totally incapable of considering an issue from anothers point of view.

rotfl tell me about it, you should have seen his QQ's over the bcg..Love that guy!

[Eccezan]

Eccezan you come across as a total moron. You react in a childish manner when unable to get your own way and seem totally incapable of considering an issue from anothers point of view.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/4db77_ORIG-look_at_all_the_fucks_i_give.jpg

[Ceros]

So you grind away to 60, get into a top raiding guild...days of time only to find out playing field is not level.

If you're playing to be uber, then that's the risk you take. That's always been true in EQ. The devs certainly don't owe you anything for the time you chose to put into the game. The competitive raiding scene on most classic EQ servers completely sucked -- which is why so many players rushed to new servers as they launched.

Damn, guess you get what you pay for!!

Actually, no. You pay nothing and you get a free approximation of classic EQ to play with other enthusiasts. Go pay Sony to whine about your level 60 raiding and customer service experiences. They'll care a little bit less that the Devs here, but at least you'll actually be entitled to complain.

[Awwalike]

stop ganging up on him guys, if he gets so angry that he punches his monitor we won't be able to laugh at him anymore.

[Autotune]

I doubt Nilbog is shady. Usually he is straight forward.

Rogean, i have doubts about that guy.


In the end, none of this shit matters. People gonna play, or they ain't. I'd like to thank Nilbog for allowing me to play tho.


So with no trolling, Thanks Nilbog.

[Sold]

stop ganging up on him guys, if he gets so angry that he punches his monitor we won't be able to laugh at him anymore.

!! Secret INFOZ Eccezans RL video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3HT4gh-Hso

[Massive Marc]

That was my vote. Well, my initial vote was for them all to be deleveled to 5, with nothing.



Started with 0 people. Server was originally destined to have like 40-50. So fuck you too. I just wanted to make sure classic EQ didn't die.

You guys have no faith.

Fact is, you had a chance to out all these "ungrateful fucks" and you pussied out. Simple.

[Eccezan]

Posted what I did for the people who actually want to know the truth of how the server is run, not for the trolls. Say what you want trolls...as usual...

Oh btw this is my last response at trolls. I got what I needed to say out for now.


http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/4db77_ORIG-look_at_all_the_fucks_i_give.jpg

[Awwalike]

Posted what I did for the people who actually want to know the truth of how the server is run, not for the trolls. Say what you want trolls...as usual...

Oh btw this is my last response at trolls. I got what I needed to say out for now.


http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/4db77_ORIG-look_at_all_the_fucks_i_give.jpg

we now know, if you break the rules you are punished. and that QQing to the GMs after is allowed, but only in rants and flames.

[Rogean]

Hey Eccezan how's that Eashan being my friend argument working out for you? You forgot one little tidbit of information that shits all over your argument...

Eashan is fucking banned you dumbass

[Awwalike]

Hey Eccezan how's that Eashan being my friend argument working out for you? You forgot one little tidbit of information that shits all over your argument...

Eashan is fucking banned you dumbass

ZING.

[Sold]

Hey Eccezan how's that Eashan being my friend argument working out for you? You forgot one little tidbit of information that shits all over your argument...

Eashan is fucking banned you dumbass

ROTFL!!!!!!---http://www.ehow.com/how_2049858_make-tinfoil-hat.html

[JenJen]

hahahaha

you cant write this stuff

[Eccezan]

Oh nice bold font dude? Is he IP banned? That so? When he has continously admitted to playing a fully geared monk on your server with a different name? In fact my character was picked to transfer gear from one of his real life friends to him. Oh and did ya summon any items for him too? I really don't know if this is true, but its safe to assume you might have.

[Sold]

Oh nice bold font dude? Is he IP banned? That so? When he has continously admitted to playing a fully geared monk on your server with a different name? In fact my character was picked to transfer gear from one of his real life friends to him. Oh and did ya summon any items for him too? I really don't know if this is true, but its safe to assume you might have.

RRRRAAAAAAAGEEEE!!!!!

[Eccezan]

Hey Eccezan how's that Eashan being my friend argument working out for you? You forgot one little tidbit of information that shits all over your argument...

Eashan is fucking banned you dumbass

Which part of my argument has been shit upon that says that about 17 members of TR INLCUDING OFFICERS were openly and self admittedly caught cheating. Yet there was no raid suspension. And hate to beat a broken horse, but I think DA got raid suspended for having a random player use MQ in a non-raid zone, right? I was never in DA. But I think that this point was never asnwered clearly....but we all know that GM's and server staff don't need to answer questions. So don't, we already know why they werent raid suspended.

[Awwalike]

Oh nice bold font dude? Is he IP banned? That so? When he has continously admitted to playing a fully geared monk on your server with a different name? In fact my character was picked to transfer gear from one of his real life friends to him. Oh and did ya summon any items for him too? I really don't know if this is true, but its safe to assume you might have.

why would it matter if he is IP banned or not?
:o

[Rogean]

Oh nice bold font dude? Is he IP banned? That so? When he has continously admitted to playing a fully geared monk on your server with a different name? In fact my character was picked to transfer gear from one of his real life friends to him. Oh and did ya summon any items for him too? I really don't know if this is true, but its safe to assume you might have.

Wait.. Who's guild was just accused of having epic items summoned by a former staff member? I think your looking in the wrong direction buddy.

[Awwalike]

Which part of my argument has been shit upon that says that about 17 members of TR INLCUDING OFFICERS were openly and self admittedly caught cheating. Yet there was no raid suspension. And hate to beat a broken horse, but I think DA got raid suspended for having a random player use MQ in a non-raid zone, right? I was never in DA. But I think that this point was never asnwered clearly....but we all know that GM's and server staff don't need to answer questions. So don't, we already know why they werent raid suspended.

stop talking about things that happened WAY before your time here. you really do believe everything a few kids say lol.

[Sold]

Wait.. Who's guild was just accused of having epic items summoned by a former staff member? I think your looking in the wrong direction buddy.

AHAHAHAHAH The funny part is all OFFICERS of TMO know its true and are keeping there mouth shut rotfl.

[Autotune]

Wait.. Who's guild was just accused of having epic items summoned by a former staff member? I think your looking in the wrong direction buddy.

they clearly weren't summoned tho.

[Eccezan]

Hey Eccezan how's that Eashan being my friend argument working out for you? You forgot one little tidbit of information that shits all over your argument...

Eashan is fucking banned you dumbass

You even had your hardest working member of your CSR community quit over obvious cheating by a developer that "FORMERLY" (or might still behind the scenes) played the game? Where is my argument shit on? I had my runin's with Uthgaard, but he really tried his best to give some legitimancy to this server. Many others agree with me here. The way you the rest of the staff treated him before he was exasperated enough to leave just goes to show how people's hard work is appreciated.

[mitic]

just stop crying u wanabe elitist bitches and sort it out like real men on red, you fags

[Sold]

they clearly weren't summoned tho.

Oh to the contrary, It was... Stealin in TMO you are a zergling and are only good for that. The officers know its true.. clearly Rogean wouldnt have posted about it if he didnt KNOW it is.

[Eccezan]

Wait.. Who's guild was just accused of having epic items summoned by a former staff member? I think your looking in the wrong direction buddy.

Believe it or not, I didn't know shit about that particular event transpired and I really don't know if there is any evidence that anyone but the people directly involved knew about it. If there is, show me. I'm not sure who you are trying to discredit here. Btw was it you that voted for no real punishment for those that were caught cheating? I would love to know. What about no outing of the names? Was that your idea as well rog?

[Ames]

just stop crying u wanabe elitist bitches and sort it out like real men on red, you fags

Still waiting for you to tell me your character name on Beta faggito (Italian for faggot)

[Massive Marc]

Funny, how when someone brings up the argument about 300 people not being banned, rogs and nilbog change the topic.

simple question, why complain about the player base being ignorant , ungrateful fucks and not ban the same people when they blatantly cheated and went against your rules.

[mitic]

you blue raiders are such a bunch of emos....this is hillarious

[Rogean]

Which part of my argument has been shit upon that says that about 17 members of TR INLCUDING OFFICERS were openly and self admittedly caught cheating. Yet there was no raid suspension. And hate to beat a broken horse, but I think DA got raid suspended for having a random player use MQ in a non-raid zone, right? I was never in DA. But I think that this point was never asnwered clearly....but we all know that GM's and server staff don't need to answer questions. So don't, we already know why they werent raid suspended.

You know I'm getting tired of seeing the whole "TMO are angels because TR had one officer banned and we didn't" argument. I've been meaning to say this for a while:

It's pretty common knowledge that the leader of TMO posted a warning to the guild on their forums about the DLL and it's capabilities, minutes after the patch that introduced it.

Whether this information was leaked from our staff, or reverse engineered, or simply he knew enough to be cautious about it, is irrelevant... why would he have to make that announcement/warning if TMO had nothing to hide from it? And also import is knowing that, tmo still had the same number of guild members caught as tr did.

[Massive Marc]

You know I'm getting tired of seeing the whole "TMO are angels because TR had one officer banned and we didn't" argument. I've been meaning to say this for a while:

It's pretty common knowledge that the leader of TMO posted a warning to the guild on their forums about the DLL and it's capabilities, minutes after the patch that introduced it.

Whether this information was leaked from our staff, or reverse engineered, or simply he knew enough to be cautious about it, is irrelevant... why would he have to make that announcement/warning if TMO had nothing to hide from it? And also import is knowing that, tmo still had the same number of guild members caught as tr did.

SO WHY ARE YOU NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT ?????

[Sold]

You know I'm getting tired of seeing the whole "TMO are angels because TR had one officer banned and we didn't" argument. I've been meaning to say this for a while:

It's pretty common knowledge that the leader of TMO posted a warning to the guild on their forums about the DLL and it's capabilities, minutes after the patch that introduced it.

Whether this information was leaked from our staff, or reverse engineered, or simply he knew enough to be cautious about it, is irrelevant... why would he have to make that announcement/warning if TMO had nothing to hide from it? And also import is knowing that, tmo still had the same number of guild members caught as tr did.

Loly is the man who saw the DLL file and posted it FYI, can we also get back to quickfingers getting his epic peices from uthgaard 8)?

[Eccezan]

You know I'm getting tired of seeing the whole "TMO are angels because TR had one officer banned and we didn't" argument. I've been meaning to say this for a while:

It's pretty common knowledge that the leader of TMO posted a warning to the guild on their forums about the DLL and it's capabilities, minutes after the patch that introduced it.

Whether this information was leaked from our staff, or reverse engineered, or simply he knew enough to be cautious about it, is irrelevant... why would he have to make that announcement/warning if TMO had nothing to hide from it? And also import is knowing that, tmo still had the same number of guild members caught as tr did.

Are you serious? You actually bought that? You think there was a warning in the super secret TMO forums (that were hacked btw) about your fucking DLL file? In actuality Loly did see something suspicious and it was posted in officer chat and pretty much completely disregarded as fucking programmer jargon. There was no such warning. For you to be bringing up and backing up known cheaters with your first phrase is 100% attempt at distraction.

[Anger]

Anger? Anon trolls lol

I fail to see how this thread is a troll. I was ranting about VP/epics.

That is what we do here, right? Rant, and flame?

[Rogean]

You even had your hardest working member of your CSR community quit over obvious cheating by a developer that "FORMERLY" (or might still behind the scenes) played the game? Where is my argument shit on? I had my runin's with Uthgaard, but he really tried his best to give some legitimancy to this server. Many others agree with me here. The way you the rest of the staff treated him before he was exasperated enough to leave just goes to show how people's hard work is appreciated.

As I've said in another thread somewhere, don't pretend you know the full story about why Uthgaard quit.. because frankly, you don't. I have a lot of respect for everything Uthgaard did, but there comes a time just like in any work environment, and especially a volunteer one, where it's time for co-workers to part ways.

[Massive Marc]

Funny, how when someone brings up the argument about 300 people not being banned, rogs and nilbog change the topic.

simple question, why complain about the player base being ignorant , ungrateful fucks and not ban the same people when they blatantly cheated and went against your rules.

[Estu]

Not that i give a fuck about guild drama - BUT, If all of TMO's members left the server that is at least 100-150 gone from a server that is only hitting 400ish max players as of late. 1/4th of your player base leaving is a pretty big thing.

This is a terrible post. First, the max server pop is still 500-600; as I write this, there are over 500 online. Second, and I don't know why people keep thinking otherwise, those 500 people are NOT THE SAME PEOPLE EVERY TIME. There is a ton of variation in who is online at any given moment; the actual number of people playing actively (say, logging in at least once a week for at least an hour) is way more than the max population at any given moment. As in, several times that amount. Did you notice how there was no noticeable decrease in server population when there were ~350 people suspended? According to your math, 7/8 of the server population should have been absent. DURR

[Eccezan]

You know I'm getting tired of seeing the whole "TMO are angels because TR had one officer banned and we didn't" argument. I've been meaning to say this for a while:

It's pretty common knowledge that the leader of TMO posted a warning to the guild on their forums about the DLL and it's capabilities, minutes after the patch that introduced it.

Whether this information was leaked from our staff, or reverse engineered, or simply he knew enough to be cautious about it, is irrelevant... why would he have to make that announcement/warning if TMO had nothing to hide from it? And also import is knowing that, tmo still had the same number of guild members caught as tr did.

Oh and to answer your questions because you obviously dont know loly, he posted about it because he finds shit like that interesting. Not because anything fishy was going on. Anything else Rog? If we knew about it in advance why did ANY TMO GET CAUGHT? Answer it please.

[Anger]

Also: obligatory argument about how DA got raid suspensions when IB/TR never did for doing the same crimes.

[Rogean]

Oh and to answer your questions because you obviously dont know loly, he posted about it because he finds shit like that interesting. Not because anything fishy was going on. Anything else Rog? If we knew about it in advance why did ANY TMO GET CAUGHT? Answer it please.

lol because they didn't get a chance to check the forums before logging in maybe?

[Ames]

This is a terrible post. First, the max server pop is still 500-600; as I write this, there are over 500 online. Second, and I don't know why people keep thinking otherwise, those 500 people are NOT THE SAME PEOPLE EVERY TIME. There is a ton of variation in who is online at any given moment; the actual number of people playing actively (say, logging in at least once a week for at least an hour) is way more than the max population at any given moment. As in, several times that amount. Did you notice how there was no noticeable decrease in server population when there were ~350 people suspended? According to your math, 7/8 of the server population should have been absent. DURR

You seem angered bro

[Tiggles]

So is Quickfingers banned im confused?

[Ceros]

Funny, how when someone brings up the argument about 300 people not being banned, rogs and nilbog change the topic.

simple question, why complain about the player base being ignorant , ungrateful fucks and not ban the same people when they blatantly cheated and went against your rules.

What's funny to me is that you seem to feel you're owed an explanation. The P99 staff are a group of time limited volunteers who do the best they can with what they've got. This isn't a job they're paid to do and you're not a customer.

It's their server, their call. There are very likely considerations that you're not and will never be aware of. Too fucking bad for you. You've provided feedback. Time to move on.

The bullshit quotient is so high here, the Devs deserve a medal for not shutting down the server. Stop adding to it.

[Sold]

Oh and to answer your questions because you obviously dont know loly, he posted about it because he finds shit like that interesting. Not because anything fishy was going on. Anything else Rog? If we knew about it in advance why did ANY TMO GET CAUGHT? Answer it please.

Rogean just post about Quickfingers epic and shit his fat ass up. You see the tin-foil shit I delt with on a daily basis? TMO always feels as if they are the victum. Everyone is always out to get them and they are the only "good guys" on this server. Get over yourself Ecc no one gives a shit about you including your parents.

[Eccezan]

lol because they didn't get a chance to check the forums before logging in maybe?

Much weaker response than I would expect from you man...lol just admit that there was no warning given to the guild and no proof of it. Im really suprised that you would buy this stuff...really surprised.

[Massive Marc]

So then they can shut the fuck up about whinning, ungrateful fuck, as it were.

I think you have some brown on your nose.

[Eccezan]

What's funny to me is that you seem to feel you're owed an explanation. The P99 staff are a group of time limited volunteers who do the best they can with what they've got. This isn't a job they're paid to do and you're not a customer.

It's their server, their call. There are very likely considerations that you're not and will never be aware of. Too fucking bad for you. You've provided feedback. Time to move on.

The bullshit quotient is so high here, the Devs deserve a medal for not shutting down the server. Stop adding to it.

For anyone to think that both sides aren't getting anything by this server being up, these forums being up with the traffic that is created by it, is ignorant.

[Sold]

lol because they didn't get a chance to check the forums before logging in maybe?

No its because an officer batphone went out saying if your boxing/hacking stop it, possible detection program with update. Loly is a super nerd he knew just was it is.

[Rogean]

Much weaker response than I would expect from you man...lol just admit that there was no warning given to the guild and no proof of it. Im really suprised that you would buy this stuff...really surprised.

I'm surprised you've bought into half the shit your trying to spew, but hey, whatever.. you keep digging yourself a deeper hole.

Do you TMO guys even advocate his ranting here? He's making you guys look terrible.

[Eccezan]

No its because an officer batphone went out saying if your boxing/hacking stop it, possible detection program with update. Loly is a super nerd he knew just was it is.

whose wearing the tinfoil hat now?

[Mountaineer]

If i recall, i think it was Sydarm who mentioned something about the .dll. I had no clue what he was talking about and didnt care. Didn't see anything else mentioned about it though

[Sold]

whose wearing the tinfoil hat now?

Don't need the hat I was an officer, and know what went on. You guys can deny all you want but we both know all the shit that went on.

[Massive Marc]

Don't need the hat I was an officer, and know what went on. You guys can deny all you want but we both know all the shit that went on.

Speak on it, or stfu. Don't claim bullshit without backing it up.

[jilena]

sold = slapen

[Sold]

If i recall, i think it was Sydarm who mentioned something about the .dll. I had no clue what he was talking about and didnt care. Didn't see anything else mentioned about it though


Incorrect it was this man...


http://i.imgur.com/WmAYK.png (http://imgur.com/WmAYK)

[Eccezan]

I'm surprised you've bought into half the shit your trying to spew, but hey, whatever.. you keep digging yourself a deeper hole.

Do you TMO guys even advocate his ranting here? He's making you guys look terrible.

I'm not looking for anyone to advocate for me. And if you think im the only one looking bad here, you are highly mistaken. But in actuality the people of this server don't need someone like me rant and flame to see how the server is. Anyone can see it by themselves, join an aspiring guild like taken, see how you are treated by TR. See where your voices are heard when shit happens to you.

Feel free to point to the guild or the retarded trolls and ask if there is any advocation. You wouldnt be responding to me if there was nothing valid in my points. But you are on the defensive for a reason. Both you and nilbog have responded to me for a reason. Nilbog, I do have a feeling that he can claim ignorance to a degree, but not you Rog.

[Eccezan]

Don't need the hat I was an officer, and know what went on. You guys can deny all you want but we both know all the shit that went on.

Dude, you are a liar. Don't be pissed you sold out and were booted from the guild for being a douchebag. WTS Credibility... asshat

[Rogean]

[19:39] Rogean: man
[19:39] Rogean: there's a huge flame going on in rnf right now
[19:39] Rogean: its intense
[19:40] null: which rnf
[19:40] null: dude
[19:41] Rogean: the "Progression? lol" thread
[19:41] null: I cannot read your blue server posts, because at the end of every conflict im left thinking 'why didnt x just kill y?', then I have an 'oh wait' moment

and with that I must now afk for a while.

[Eccezan]

[19:39] Rogean: man
[19:39] Rogean: there's a huge flame going on in rnf right now
[19:39] Rogean: its intense
[19:40] null: which rnf
[19:40] null: dude
[19:41] Rogean: the "Progression? lol" thread
[19:41] null: I cannot read your blue server posts, because at the end of every conflict im left thinking 'why didnt x just kill y?', then I have an 'oh wait' moment

and with that I must now afk for a while.

yea that makes 2 of us.

[Sold]

Dude, you are a liar. Don't be pissed you sold out and were booted from the guild for being a douchebag. WTS Credibility... asshat

ROTFL! MAD BREW? Get yourself a tissue and come tell uncle slapen whats wrong..

[Demetrium]

ROTFL! MAD BREW? Get yourself a tissue and come tell uncle slapen whats wrong..

You aren't funny, the 'brew' shit is fucking lame, and who the fuck uses Internet Explorer? Jesus Christ you're a depraved human being.

[Jjlent]

uncle slapen sounds like he wants to party.

[Tiggles]

ROTFL! MAD BREW? Get yourself a tissue and come tell uncle slapen whats wrong..

I never liked you Slapan

[Massive Marc]

what a let down...

[Demetrium]

Wait.. Who's guild was just accused of having epic items summoned by a former staff member? I think your looking in the wrong direction buddy.

What a retarded post. You realize you have the power to check this 'accusation', right?

[Sold]

I never liked you Slapan

My world is crushed, afk awhile while I cry. /tap out

[Tiggles]

My world is crushed, afk awhile while I cry. /tap out

They offered me your officer position but i turned it down.

you are nothing

[Rogean]

What a retarded post. You realize you have the power to check this 'accusation', right?

What a retarded post. I already did.

You realize I can't disclose that information to the public, right?

[Autotune]

They offered me your officer position but i turned it down.

you are nothing

So how about those summoned items?

[Massive Marc]

What a retarded post. I already did.

You realize I can't disclose that information to the public, right?

No you choose not too, there's a difference.

[Autotune]

What a retarded post. I already did.

You realize I can't disclose that information to the public, right?

can I? I mean, without getting raped by a hammer of some sorts.

[Sold]

What a retarded post. I already did.

You realize I can't disclose that information to the public, right?

What do you not understand clearly he wouldnt have posted this if it wasnt TRUE! Keep drinking the coolaid.

[Rogean]

No you choose not too, there's a difference.

It is a policy of our staff team.

[Massive Marc]

It is a policy of our staff team.

Whats the policy on cheating and getting caught ?

[Autotune]

Whats the policy on cheating and getting caught ?

dude, you missed your chance to cheat and get away with it, get over it.

[Jjlent]

dude, you missed your chance to cheat and get away with it, get over it.

lolol +1 for win post

[Harrison]

You know I'm getting tired of seeing the whole "TMO are angels because TR had one officer banned and we didn't" argument. I've been meaning to say this for a while:

It's pretty common knowledge that the leader of TMO posted a warning to the guild on their forums about the DLL and it's capabilities, minutes after the patch that introduced it.

Whether this information was leaked from our staff, or reverse engineered, or simply he knew enough to be cautious about it, is irrelevant... why would he have to make that announcement/warning if TMO had nothing to hide from it? And also import is knowing that, tmo still had the same number of guild members caught as tr did.

BOMB DROPPED (Again, we all already knew about this post)

Someone get me the popcorn. I'm watching TMO implode.

[Demetrium]

What a retarded post. I already did.

You realize I can't disclose that information to the public, right?

Oh, god forbid we ruin his reputation if he did. Don't bring it up if you're not going to prove or disprove it.

[G13]

You know I'm getting tired of seeing the whole "TMO are angels because TR had one officer banned and we didn't" argument. I've been meaning to say this for a while:

It's pretty common knowledge that the leader of TMO posted a warning to the guild on their forums about the DLL and it's capabilities, minutes after the patch that introduced it.

Whether this information was leaked from our staff, or reverse engineered, or simply he knew enough to be cautious about it, is irrelevant... why would he have to make that announcement/warning if TMO had nothing to hide from it? And also import is knowing that, tmo still had the same number of guild members caught as tr did.

I see you toss this red herring around all the time in defense of your obvious double standards when it comes to handing out punishments.

Nobody is claiming TMO are angels. The top end guilds compete, and sometimes players get dirty. The issue here is your questionable behavior when it comes to guild disputes. It's not what you do. It's what you don't do.

1. You raid suspend one guild twice for players using hacks. One time the player wasn't even in the same zone as his guild. TR officers are caught cheating on competitive raids. Nothing happens to their guild. No raid suspension. No guild disbanding. Their violation should have caused you to double their punishment, since this was after you had made an example of another guild hacking, yet they did it anyways in spite of that. They told you to go fuck yourself with their actions. Their officers took a steaming pile of shit on your box and on your rules and you rewarded them for it by allowing their most important accounts to remain on the server. Bravo.

Not banning those accounts is "classic" though right?

Instead of outrage on your part and guilds getting disbanded by the Rogean wrath hammer, you posted some half assed excuse on the boards and pretended like everything was normal.

2. You don't respond with the same urgency to petitions from guilds that are not IB/TR, if you even bother to respond at all.

The only reason you didn't ban those accounts that were all caught hacking is because you were protecting accounts and gear within one specific guild. Now the population is taking a dump because players realize that the integrity of your box has been corrupted. That's something that once lost you can never get back. You and Nilbog have a lot of nerve trying to now blame the population for lack of development because the players are "ungrateful fucks". How arrogant and childish. This is what happens though when children try to play EQ developer though.

There should have never been a vote on whether those accounts would be banned. You should have banned them permanently and allowed the healthy player base that was not cheating to heal and grow. That decision spelled the end of P99. It's been a slow death as the server bleeds out since you took the chickenshit way out to protect your RL pals.

[Threepoint]

I agree

Not banning cheaters was a weak weak move. It is like charging someone of murder and giving him community service.

[Autotune]

I agree

Not banning cheaters was a weak weak move. It is like charging someone of murder and giving him community service.

TR = OJ?

[Rogean]

Whats the policy on cheating and getting caught ?

Depends on the detection method used. Before the new detection system, we were limited by following methods:

People using an active hack to trigger a specific detection mechanic - 3 Months to Permanent.
Sting Operations - 3 Months to Permanent
Buffer Overflow Bombs, had to affect someone twice (Essentially two offenses), could be debugged and corrected, did not affect all MQ2 Versions - 3 Months to Permanent.

With the new detection system it automatically detects people as soon as they log in or as soon as they activate hacks. This can result in anything from a Warning to a Suspension or Permanent Ban. Warnings are rarely given, only if we (I) notice a player that logs in with MQ2 still loaded from a previous server that allowed it, and we can verify that, and they had immediately logged out and back in. Suspensions as you saw were given en mass since we will now always know if they have it loaded again, instead of the previous methods of being limited to them triggering a detection which was far less likely to catch them a second time. Typical punishment is 3 months to permanent.

[Harrison]

Bronson butthurt about Fishbait/DA/TMO

Lol this is new stuff

[Tiggles]

Apparently Rogean

Banned Quickfingers

Changed his name and eqemu login

Moved him into TR

Unbanned him and gave the new info to Eashan, his BFF.


And this is how TR gets new members

[Demetrium]

I agree

Not banning cheaters was a weak weak move. It is like charging someone of murder and giving him community service.

In this thread:
GMs who echo accusations of corrupt people but won't post the names of 365 people who actually cheat.

[LevinJ]

Ya know, sometimes I am frustrated with little things here and there about what happens on this server. But then I just take a step back and think "I am only frustrated because the developers managed to make such a good product that I have invested so much of my time and enjoyment in to this server that little things can effect me."

I don't always agree with the dev's decisions. And I love as much as anyone to cry foul when a decision doesn't go my way, although I prefer to do it privately rather than QQ'ing on the boards. But some people in this thread really have a ridiculous sense of entitlement and are sorely mistaken if they think they speak for the P99 community when they trash Rogean / this server.

[fishingme]

Simple fix to this entire situation would be to perma PVP TMO and TR. Let them fight it out. All the bitching from both guilds along with the cheating just isn't worth the headache. Doing this may even bring casual players back on and server pop will get larger due to there actually being some point at endgame I.E raids that aren't shit infested waters.

[Falisaty]

Simple fix to this entire situation would be to perma PVP TMO and TR. Let them fight it out. All the bitching from both guilds along with the cheating just isn't worth the headache. Doing this may even bring casual players back on and server pop will get larger due to there actually being some point at endgame I.E raids that aren't shit infested waters.

they can actueally do this themselves just go turn the books in..... Nuff said

[Silentone]

First of all I want to say Like Project 1999 and I am happy it exists and have in the past thanked you all for your hard work, and that still hasnt changed. Also I like competition ie guilds like TR that are there to compete with. with that said i want to ask one thing....


CSN Rogean 12:30 pm
(12:30:04 PM): Yes we are short on staff and I do not have that much time at all to be at every raid to see what goes down.. screenshots do very little to prove things, logs even less, fraps only sometimes.. if there is even the slightest chance that they have a defense against what you perceive to be a disruption, we can't do anything about it.. thats why we simply have to be there

1)You werent there when you banned our guild from raiding
2) When we petitioned TR KSing Sev from us a few days ago, you werent there either..BUT....TR never denied Pulling Sev off of us, infact they admited it and then went on to explain why. The argument between TR and TMO started when there was a disargreement on whether TMO was Kiting Sev with 40+ in zone. So with that said you dont need any more proof that TR actually KS'd Sev they admited it, what you cant prove with the fraps and pics and such is whether it was being Kited or not.. So how come you dont act on information you had on hand, which is TR admiting they KS'd a mob we had FTE on. Again to all Admins, this isnt me lashing out or complaining im just curious and am going off of what you stated earlier.

[fishingme]

they can actueally do this themselves just go turn the books in..... Nuff said

I'm saying it should be forced upon them.

[Eccezan]

First of all I want to say Like Project 1999 and I am happy it exists and have in the past thanked you all for your hard work, and that still hasnt changed. Also I like competition ie guilds like TR that are there to compete with. with that said i want to ask one thing....




1)You werent there when you banned our guild from raiding
2) When we petitioned TR KSing Sev from us a few days ago, you werent there either..BUT....TR never denied Pulling Sev off of us, infact they admited it and then went on to explain why. The argument between TR and TMO started when there was a disargreement on whether TMO was Kiting Sev with 40+ in zone. So with that said you dont need any more proof that TR actually KS'd Sev they admited it, what you cant prove with the fraps and pics and such is whether it was being Kited or not.. So how come you dont act on information you had on hand, which is TR admiting they KS'd a mob we had FTE on. Again to all Admins, this isnt me lashing out or complaining im just curious and am going off of what you stated earlier.

So TR life sure is easy when you got the big guy loookin out for ya? (This is in regards to the unnecessarily and prematurely closed post that put an end to this particular raid distruption that was not addressed by GM's. Why wasn't this particular post moved to R&F btw?

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=51790

[Tommy_Wiseau]

This is rants and flames right? I get to rant and flame.

Nobody else does.

[Daldaen]

Incorrect it was this man...


http://i.imgur.com/WmAYK.png (http://imgur.com/WmAYK)

Uses Internet Explorer. Opinion immediately invalidated.

[inyane]

I'm not in TR, TMO, or any guild that is doing any raiding.

As your average p1999 player, I'm STILL fucking pissed that you didn't follow your own rules and ban the people that got caught cheating. That ruined the server for me more than any uber guild bullshit you have going on here.

All you did was take a huge shit on the casual players who play here and follow the rules.

And with all the secrecy that goes on concerning any actual punishments or decisions that get made, it just makes me think that there are people/guilds here getting special treatment.

Easier to keep everything non transparent, that way nobody can really tell whats going on.

[Massive Marc]

I'm not in TR, TMO, or any guild that is doing any raiding.

As your average p1999 player, I'm STILL fucking pissed that you didn't follow your own rules and ban the people that got caught cheating. That ruined the server for me more than any uber guild bullshit you have going on here.

All you did was take a huge shit on the casual players who play here and follow the rules.

And with all the secrecy that goes on concerning any actual punishments or decisions that get made, it just makes me think that there are people/guilds here getting special treatment.

Easier to keep everything non transparent, that way nobody can really tell whats going on.

if you haven't figured it out yet from this thread alone, the server staff dont give a shit about you.

[Tommy_Wiseau]

[19:39] Rogean: man
[19:39] Rogean: there's a huge flame going on in rnf right now
[19:39] Rogean: its intense
[19:40] null: which rnf
[19:40] null: dude
[19:41] Rogean: the "Progression? lol" thread
[19:41] null: I cannot read your blue server posts, because at the end of every conflict im left thinking 'why didnt x just kill y?', then I have an 'oh wait' moment

and with that I must now afk for a while.

this drama wouldn't exist if you had decided not to act as kindergarten moderator to raiders. To compete these people have no choice but to stoop to begging or paying management for assistance because that's the environment you created. It endangers that nice little revenue stream your handling of the MQ2/SEQ fiasco revealed more than you seem to realize, judging by your amused demeanor here -- you can play these people against each other for cash for only so long. Even your staff is getting sick of it if nilbog's attitude in this thread is any indication, though whether he's aware of who's actually to blame is up in the air.

bracing for censorship.

[Fazlazen]

this drama wouldn't exist if you had decided not to act as kindergarten moderator to raiders. To compete these people have no choice but to stoop to begging or paying management for assistance because that's the environment you created. It endangers that nice little revenue stream your handling of the MQ2/SEQ fiasco revealed more than you seem to realize, judging by your amused demeanor here -- you can play these people against each other for cash for only so long. Even your staff is getting sick of it if nilbog's attitude in this thread is any indication, though whether he's aware of who's actually to blame is up in the air.

bracing for censorship.

[fishingme]

this drama wouldn't exist if you had decided not to act as kindergarten moderator to raiders. To compete these people have no choice but to stoop to begging or paying management for assistance because that's the environment you created. It endangers that nice little revenue stream your handling of the MQ2/SEQ fiasco revealed more than you seem to realize, judging by your amused demeanor here -- you can play these people against each other for cash for only so long. Even your staff is getting sick of it if nilbog's attitude in this thread is any indication, though whether he's aware of who's actually to blame is up in the air.

bracing for censorship.

[Massive Marc]

this drama wouldn't exist if you had decided not to act as kindergarten moderator to raiders. To compete these people have no choice but to stoop to begging or paying management for assistance because that's the environment you created. It endangers that nice little revenue stream your handling of the MQ2/SEQ fiasco revealed more than you seem to realize, judging by your amused demeanor here -- you can play these people against each other for cash for only so long. Even your staff is getting sick of it if nilbog's attitude in this thread is any indication, though whether he's aware of who's actually to blame is up in the air.

bracing for censorship.

[Sold]

TMO mad?

[Ring]

TMO mad bro. Please don't poke the hornet's nest, what if they pack up and move? That's half the server population.

[Morlaeth]

1) Durison can't spell
2) Loly, I want a date. You down?
3) Rogean is owning everyone.

[Harrison]

Fishbait laughed off server(Via salty, lulz)
Fishbait turns into DA.
DA shits up server until suspensions fly.
TMO absorbs DA.
TMO shits up server until suspensions and bans fly.
TMO implodes.
Server wins, finally.

[fishingme]

1) Durison can't spell
2) Loly, I want a date. You down?
3) Rogean is owning everyone.

Lol, you must live on capitol hill

[Eccezan]

Fishbait laughed off server(Via salty, lulz)
Fishbait turns into DA.
DA shits up server until suspensions fly.
TMO absorbs DA.
TMO shits up server until suspensions and bans fly.
TMO implodes.
Server wins, finally.
Harrison still fucking stupid.

fixed

[Harrison]

Adding an opinion to the list of facts does nothing to detract from your implosion and my amusement gained from it.

Keep raging dude. It's fucking comedy gold.

[Tiggles]

Nothing you guys can really do about so don't rage.

Just need to find a new game to play and leave this one alone.

Lets make a huge BF3 Clan

[Morlaeth]

Lol, you must live on capitol hill

No, I heard Alarti does though.

I live in Renton :(

[God-King Abacab]

I take it none of these guilds will roll on red99 due to the fear of Grindcore?

[Threepoint]

TR = OJ?

Maybe if you are an idiot

You see, OJ wasn't found guilty of anything as opposed to this situation here where 365 people were caught red handed.

[Duie]

so the Devs would rather have this bullshit than a rotation?



please dont give me the bullshit about competing on a blue server. Some of us just arnt willing to stoop low enough to "compete" on this server .


You know if you guys would of just inforced rule number one back in the day of play nice, This server wouldnt be the cluster fuck it has become

[fishingme]

Adding an opinion to the list of facts does nothing to detract from your implosion and my amusement gained from it.

Keep raging dude. It's fucking comedy gold.

Not an opinion if you feel the need to reply to it.

No, I heard Alarti does though.

I live in Renton :(

Well that's not seattle!

[Tiggles]

Threads getting gay.

[Slathar]

I take it none of these guilds will roll on red99 due to the fear of Grindcore?

i would like to apply to Grindcore

[Ring]

For awhile there I really thought TMO was winning the war. TR was dying, not getting mobs, not enough members on to do anything, had to joint raid with VD? Damn. And then this happens.

How does TR always win? Perun gets caught hacking and is still fucking around in fraps killing Trakanons a month later. It ALMOST makes you think something fishy is going on, but then I realize TR always wins because TMO is ran by a pack of retards.

TMO still doesn't know how to play the game, evident by the fact that they send DJ Deere at Rogean like that. I promise if you send someone reasonable (send a girl, Rogean proven susceptible to fat internet women. I know your guild has fat internet women) with proper evidence (fraps that actually show something) and present your case in a reasonable way they'll start going your way. I want to type so much more but you guys are hopeless.

The law firm of Perun, Kinsawt, Xzerion so good at the game you chumps think they're cheating.

[Diggles]

Threads getting gay.

shut up you account buying piece of shit

[Eccezan]

this drama wouldn't exist if you had decided not to act as kindergarten moderator to raiders. To compete these people have no choice but to stoop to begging or paying management for assistance because that's the environment you created. It endangers that nice little revenue stream your handling of the MQ2/SEQ fiasco revealed more than you seem to realize, judging by your amused demeanor here -- you can play these people against each other for cash for only so long. Even your staff is getting sick of it if nilbog's attitude in this thread is any indication, though whether he's aware of who's actually to blame is up in the air.

bracing for censorship.

[Harrison]

That dude really paid money for that forum account. Levels of sad off the charts.

[Tiggles]

shut up you account buying piece of shit

You're just a diluted Tiggles wanna be I'm the real thing now.

[Tommy_Wiseau]

That dude really paid money for that forum account. Levels of sad off the charts.

[Harrison]

I paid money for a forum account. I am fucking pathetic.

[Tiggles]

fat

[Sold]

yes, fat

[jarshale]

That dude really paid money for that forum account. Levels of sad off the charts.

wut? apparently I missed something

[Tommy_Wiseau]

wut? apparently I missed something

tiggles sold ingame account to dude; dude later returned to tiggles to purchase forum account also thinking he could evade notice

[jarshale]

who the fuck buys a forum account

[Werlop]

who the fuck buys a forum account

Planar Protector accounts worth PP now?

[Werlop]

Fire Giant*

[Diggles]

The best part is Fake Tiggles asked Real Tiggles for a refund after getting flak from me.

[Iondera]

God this has been a great read. nilbog, Rogean thanks for your time and all you've put into the server. I've read every word of this thread unlike some people and I truely understand why nilbog is the way he is. Develop for yourself not the players because if you do it for the players they'll shit all over you.

Every question that has been asked has been answered either in this thread or another. For those not keeping score here's a recap.

Why is TMO raid suspended?
CSN Rogean 12:18 pm
(12:18:52 PM): ok so
(12:18:54 PM): Basically
(12:19:12 PM): TR was fighting Venril Sathir at the zone in (which they will be told not to do anymore along with everyone else) and they had a pile of mobs locked down by AE Mez
(12:19:20 PM): Zeelot ran into that pile of mobs and casted an AE on them
(12:19:27 PM): Twice.

Why wasn't TR punished for Sev?
(12:37:52 PM): That isn't exactly the case.. Amelinda showed me all the evidence for the sev situation and even reminded me again a day later to look at it again and come a conclusion.. we simply did not have enough proof to take action.. and that is the majority of situations
1)You werent there when you banned our guild from raiding
2) When we petitioned TR KSing Sev from us a few days ago, you werent there either..BUT....TR never denied Pulling Sev off of us, infact they admited it and then went on to explain why. The argument between TR and TMO started when there was a disargreement on whether TMO was Kiting Sev with 40+ in zone. So with that said you dont need any more proof that TR actually KS'd Sev they admited it, what you cant prove with the fraps and pics and such is whether it was being Kited or not.. So how come you dont act on information you had on hand, which is TR admiting they KS'd a mob we had FTE on. Again to all Admins, this isnt me lashing out or complaining im just curious and am going off of what you stated earlier.
Amelinda was watching.

TR has never been raid suspended for their actions.
(12:42:32 PM): TR has been raid suspended twice actually
(12:42:40 PM): they are just better at not leaking shit

Why didnt you ban every single cheater that you caught red handed when you had the chance?
This is a one time leniency to the punishment of this offense.
Was their decision AT THE TIME. To go back and change it anytime after making that decision would be, how ever much people dislike it, dumb. That would be like going back and (if they even still play) saying members who were raid suspended in the past we've decided to change our minds and ban all accounts involved. While this may make the trolls happy it would leave a very sour taste in many people's mouths.

I'm not looking for anyone to advocate for me. And if you think im the only one looking bad here, you are highly mistaken. But in actuality the people of this server don't need someone like me rant and flame to see how the server is. Anyone can see it by themselves, join an aspiring guild like taken, see how you are treated by TR. See where your voices are heard when shit happens to you.
Or ask VD, Divinity, Reclemation hell anyone what they think of TMO, point is everyone's got something to say about someone. I'm sure there are people in Taken who don't mind TR, just like there are people in VD who probably don't like TR and would rather raid on their own or with TMO. Point is a guild tag doesn't represent all the members in it regardless of how the trolls here spin it.

This one is a question from me. Regardless of what a "shitbag" Eashan is, correct me if I'm wrong but he wasn't one of the orginal 365 banned was he? So why use him as an example other then to vent random crap because you didn't like the orginal decision. If I'm wrong I'll admit it.
Let me guess, soon as rogean saw who the actual people that would be fucked was...."Hmmmm lets not ban them entirely" Earth to Nilbog -- Rogean has friends in IB/TR who he talks with reguarly... Eashan is one of the 60'ish people on his facebook friends.
Now Rogean has already commented on this post about how stupid it was but still would like an answer.


I always read pretty much this exact same thing posted:
.............unless you want to raid on a level playing field....otherwise just app TR / IB if you want to get away with cheating, regardless of the public outcry against it. Any force started up to oppose this will eventually be snuffed out by "friends of the family"
First of all aside from OMG PERUN USES SHOW EQ. Would you be kind enough to list examples what they do to cheat? Warp hacking, dups, anything other then THEY CHEAT!!!


Finally I add this:
(12:45:06 PM): thats the problem, you havnt been doing ANYTHING at all, if you want to play that card, both guild sshould be suspended
This is exactly what I would of done had I been in their shoes. All rants and flames was awhile back was bitching and moaning about how every raid there was a petition about something with GM intervention. Look at how many active guides we have since then? If it's not one thing it's another, maybe 1/2 the petty shit in their petition forum isn't as important to them as the major things they have to deal with. So they step back and give the impression nothing is happening. Finally someone thinks hey they're not going to do something anyway I'll do something major and BOOM action is taken due to the severity of the situation. Then crys of favortisim and foul play, bull shit. Play by their rules or leave as promised.

GM's don't owe you, me, or anyone else more fuel for this forum, that's why people's names aren't mentioned, and the decisions regarding petitions are kept between GM's and the players involved. If anything "comes to light" it's because players come here or in game and run their mouths. Everyone knows why Perun was caught, why people he told people. The fact that most the server wants to hang him from a cross is laughable, what about the other 364 stories you didn't hear some less offensive some more. People thinking he's still hacking are funny. The fact that it was more of a warning I have no problems with. It was a message to everyone hi we can see you now do it again and die. Rage quit if you want, please post more if you want it's great humor to a lot of us. As for me I'm happy with the server, decisions made, and will continue playing here regardless of who got dragon loot, who lost dragon loot, who's fat, who's balding, who's "cheating" who, etc, etc.

[Eccezan]

God this has been a great read. nilbog, Rogean thanks for your time and all you've put into the server. I've read every word of this thread unlike some people and I truely understand why nilbog is the way he is. Develop for yourself not the players because if you do it for the players they'll shit all over you.

Every question that has been asked has been answered either in this thread or another. For those not keeping score here's a recap.

Why is TMO raid suspended?


Why wasn't TR punished for Sev?


Amelinda was watching.

TR has never been raid suspended for their actions.


Why didnt you ban every single cheater that you caught red handed when you had the chance?

Was their decision AT THE TIME. To go back and change it anytime after making that decision would be, how ever much people dislike it, dumb. That would be like going back and (if they even still play) saying members who were raid suspended in the past we've decided to change our minds and ban all accounts involved. While this may make the trolls happy it would leave a very sour taste in many people's mouths.


Or ask VD, Divinity, Reclemation hell anyone what they think of TMO, point is everyone's got something to say about someone. I'm sure there are people in Taken who don't mind TR, just like there are people in VD who probably don't like TR and would rather raid on their own or with TMO. Point is a guild tag doesn't represent all the members in it regardless of how the trolls here spin it.

This one is a question from me. Regardless of what a "shitbag" Eashan is, correct me if I'm wrong but he wasn't one of the orginal 365 banned was he? So why use him as an example other then to vent random crap because you didn't like the orginal decision. If I'm wrong I'll admit it.

Now Rogean has already commented on this post about how stupid it was but still would like an answer.


I always read pretty much this exact same thing posted:

First of all aside from OMG PERUN USES SHOW EQ. Would you be kind enough to list examples what they do to cheat? Warp hacking, dups, anything other then THEY CHEAT!!!


Finally I add this:

This is exactly what I would of done had I been in their shoes. All rants and flames was awhile back was bitching and moaning about how every raid there was a petition about something with GM intervention. Look at how many active guides we have since then? If it's not one thing it's another, maybe 1/2 the petty shit in their petition forum isn't as important to them as the major things they have to deal with. So they step back and give the impression nothing is happening. Finally someone thinks hey they're not going to do something anyway I'll do something major and BOOM action is taken due to the severity of the situation. Then crys of favortisim and foul play, bull shit. Play by their rules or leave as promised.

GM's don't owe you, me, or anyone else more fuel for this forum, that's why people's names aren't mentioned, and the decisions regarding petitions are kept between GM's and the players involved. If anything "comes to light" it's because players come here or in game and run their mouths. Everyone knows why Perun was caught, why people he told people. The fact that most the server wants to hang him from a cross is laughable, what about the other 364 stories you didn't hear some less offensive some more. People thinking he's still hacking are funny. The fact that it was more of a warning I have no problems with. It was a message to everyone hi we can see you now do it again and die. Rage quit if you want, please post more if you want it's great humor to a lot of us. As for me I'm happy with the server, decisions made, and will continue playing here regardless of who got dragon loot, who lost dragon loot, who's fat, who's balding, who's "cheating" who, etc, etc.

TL;DR

[Tommy_Wiseau]

God this has been a great read. nilbog, Rogean thanks for your time and all you've put into the server. I've read every word of this thread unlike some people and I truely understand why nilbog is the way he is. Develop for yourself not the players because if you do it for the players they'll shit all over you.

Every question that has been asked has been answered either in this thread or another. For those not keeping score here's a recap.

Why is TMO raid suspended?


Why wasn't TR punished for Sev?


Amelinda was watching.

TR has never been raid suspended for their actions.


Why didnt you ban every single cheater that you caught red handed when you had the chance?

Was their decision AT THE TIME. To go back and change it anytime after making that decision would be, how ever much people dislike it, dumb. That would be like going back and (if they even still play) saying members who were raid suspended in the past we've decided to change our minds and ban all accounts involved. While this may make the trolls happy it would leave a very sour taste in many people's mouths.


Or ask VD, Divinity, Reclemation hell anyone what they think of TMO, point is everyone's got something to say about someone. I'm sure there are people in Taken who don't mind TR, just like there are people in VD who probably don't like TR and would rather raid on their own or with TMO. Point is a guild tag doesn't represent all the members in it regardless of how the trolls here spin it.

This one is a question from me. Regardless of what a "shitbag" Eashan is, correct me if I'm wrong but he wasn't one of the orginal 365 banned was he? So why use him as an example other then to vent random crap because you didn't like the orginal decision. If I'm wrong I'll admit it.

Now Rogean has already commented on this post about how stupid it was but still would like an answer.


I always read pretty much this exact same thing posted:

First of all aside from OMG PERUN USES SHOW EQ. Would you be kind enough to list examples what they do to cheat? Warp hacking, dups, anything other then THEY CHEAT!!!


Finally I add this:

This is exactly what I would of done had I been in their shoes. All rants and flames was awhile back was bitching and moaning about how every raid there was a petition about something with GM intervention. Look at how many active guides we have since then? If it's not one thing it's another, maybe 1/2 the petty shit in their petition forum isn't as important to them as the major things they have to deal with. So they step back and give the impression nothing is happening. Finally someone thinks hey they're not going to do something anyway I'll do something major and BOOM action is taken due to the severity of the situation. Then crys of favortisim and foul play, bull shit. Play by their rules or leave as promised.

GM's don't owe you, me, or anyone else more fuel for this forum, that's why people's names aren't mentioned, and the decisions regarding petitions are kept between GM's and the players involved. If anything "comes to light" it's because players come here or in game and run their mouths. Everyone knows why Perun was caught, why people he told people. The fact that most the server wants to hang him from a cross is laughable, what about the other 364 stories you didn't hear some less offensive some more. People thinking he's still hacking are funny. The fact that it was more of a warning I have no problems with. It was a message to everyone hi we can see you now do it again and die. Rage quit if you want, please post more if you want it's great humor to a lot of us. As for me I'm happy with the server, decisions made, and will continue playing here regardless of who got dragon loot, who lost dragon loot, who's fat, who's balding, who's "cheating" who, etc, etc.

interesting points tell me more

[Eccezan]

interesting points tell me more

LOL

[Labyrrinth]

Much weaker response than I would expect from you man...lol just admit that there was no warning given to the guild and no proof of it. Im really suprised that you would buy this stuff...really surprised.

He (Rogean) buys it because he thinks he has friends in TR. He doesn't like TMO, hates us as a matter of fact... not because he necessarily knows any of us but because we have a TMO tag. He's said as much to me.

[Eccezan]

He (Rogean) buys it because he thinks he has friends in TR. He doesn't like TMO, hates us as a matter of fact... not because he necessarily knows any of us but because we have a TMO tag. He's said as much to me.

[Amelinda]

if you haven't figured it out yet from this thread alone, the server staff dont give a shit about you.

This is untrue. I can't speak for rogean and nilbog simply because i'm not them. I actually care about every player on this server. That's why i volunteer my time and energy to guide. I enjoy helping people.



Amelinda was watching.



I wish. Sadly I was not.

[Jjlent]

That is why I <3 you Leezard Queen Amelinda

[Ames]

Correct!!!!!!! I was not one of the 365 banned.... also if you knew me you would not think I am such shit bag

Your only flaw is that you like the Red Socks

[Diggles]

Correct!!!!!!! I was not one of the 365 banned.... also if you knew me you would not think I am such shit bag
he was banned for 2 boxing instead.

[Labyrrinth]

I was not banned for 2 boxing Eashan btw, it was from me transferring a manastone from a lvl 52 to a lvl 11 :) and Uthgaard decided to ban every toon I ever logged on from my ip address so I was not banned for 2 boxing with eashan.... remember that

Right, right. I mean my fucking god, that was the ONLY time you ever did it, you never cheated, lied, or misconstrued the truth at any other time. The ONE time you did it just happened to coincide with the ONE time you got caught

Really, we believe you.

[Labyrrinth]

Right, right. I mean my fucking god, that was the ONLY time you ever did it, you never cheated, lied, or misconstrued the truth at any other time. The ONE time you did it just happened to coincide with the ONE time you got caught

Really, we believe you.

Wait, I should rephrase that. Rogean believes you! :)

[Ames]

I never said I didn't have two toons on at the same time.......I said that nether one was Eashan. My main issue was that Uthgaard banned all of my accounts instead of the just those two and then told Alarti and who ever else that he is friends with in TMO what he did it. But I am over it ..... I still play on the server and have a great time... looking forward to VP, Epics and all that good stuff. Nighty nite kiddies, Going to bed now. I don't think I will be posting much here anymore its kind of a dead topic but if you feel you need to flame me carry on.


HODOR !!!

How come the Red Socks did not make the play-offs this year tho?

[baub]

How come the Red Socks did not make the play-offs this year tho?

Really?

Fried chicken, beer and video games versus having to play more boring baseball..

I think they made the right choice.

[Ames]

Really?

Fried chicken, beer and video games versus having to play more boring baseball..

I think they made the right choice.

how fucking fat are you?

srsly

[baub]

very, very fat

[Enygma]

Well not for mine in particular. I develop every day that I can. What I said in regards to players not affecting development was more along the lines of I don't care if 5 people played on the server, as long as they loved classic eq and that's why they were here.

We've lost a lot of developers due to the playerbase. And that's the main reason other servers lose interest in developing. It's the truth.

There's lots of players that are here for classic eq, and if you're one of them, that's great.

You also lost your main developer (Uthgaard) due to yourself and Rogean being biased corrupt fuck heads. Don't blame your shitty server on the player base. Blame it on lack of integrity on both your and Rogean's part.

You've lost a lot of your playerbase due to favoritism. You've obviously made your decision as to what's important. The success of Transatlantic Nerdrage.


Enygmad

[Enygma]

It is a policy of our staff team.

If you posted it all in the open you would be descriminated against and would have to do what was right.

You CHOOSE not to which is a policy of you and nilbog since thats all that is left of your "staff team".

Enygmad

[Enygma]

Rogean and nilbog wouldn't even be posting right now if they didn't need to do damage control... in other words... they know they fucked up.

Enygmad.

[JenJen]

server population still looks healthy at this odd hour of the day :)

newsflash : the majority of the community dont care

[kilyen]

release VP have all the guilds able to do the content roll for the first shot at it then work out a rotation
then state the first sign of any bitching whining hacking fighting then VP will be locked to all guilds involved for a month

[Enygma]

server population still looks healthy at this odd hour of the day :)

newsflash : the majority of the community dont care

They will when there's a better option.

Enygmad.

[LevinJ]

Hey, guess what! I found a video depiction of TMO on youtube. Apparently, Enygma and friends played Counterstrike in the past. www.youtube.com/watch?v=HijiyzYOcg8

[karsten]

I've always had huge amounts of respect for the people and guilds that perservere under hardship. that's why I have such a hardon for guys like getsome and trystych and swarws -- those guys don't implode at the first sign of adversity.



people take their leads in guilds from the people in charge -- if that's shaky then you've got your house on the proverbial sand. The best thing you guys in TMO can do right now is shore up your leadership, get on the same page, and formulate a plan.

right now you are doing like, the opposite of that

[Odonk]

wow, this thread reads like a fucking novel. i planned to go to bed an hour and a half ago then i found this thread.

[Harrison]

Lol when can we get a youtube video of TMO collectively /wristing over this?

[visage]

One can only hope. I don't care enough to log in and check or ask around if it was true.

You can't ban a nolifer like that in any case. One of you zerglings would give him a character to vpn on.

Says's the fat guy with an avatar of his fat ass in a chair on the computer. Posting nearly everyday on how others have no life. LOL , when Durison isn't on p99 doing his checks and balances on how he has no life. Harrison is on the forums insuring to tell others. LOL I love it~ keep going fatty you have such a swell life to judge others.

[Motec]

This thread is hilarious.

[Sold]

Harrison+tiggles confirmed =fat

[Enygmad]

They will when there's a better option.

Enygmad.

http://i.imgur.com/qKxDf.jpg

I think the best option for you at this point, would be to utilize the raid suspension in a positive way and get outside and lose some fucking weight you worthless fat cunt. Or, you could just go and play on Fippy and you can be sure no one here's gonna miss your endless tin foil QQ'ing!

[Zenlina]

At this point i am pretty much done too. And theres afew reason thats already been said. But i might as well add another one no one has mentioned. Before Kunark was out, DA was actually suspended a third time. The reason behind it was over a mob dispute. 4 guilds sitting on noble DJ, at this time the raid rules were already changed but they still instated the 15man sitting on raidboss bullcrap (Note Noble DJ is non KOS). Of all 3-4 guilds there was no evidence given from any guild just the basic all guild sitting on it and the roundabout argument and misunderstanding of FTE. Of the 4 guild that was there DA was the only one to be slapped with all there officer/leadership suspended (Regardless if they were online or not) and a guild raid suspension of 2 weeks. (wish had a copy of that chat log in guild, was epic)

Now i know multiple guilds know of this incident just not the part about DA getting GM slap. It took like a hour or so to argue our way out of that unjust decision but seriously wtf is your problem dude?

Now after getting hit with basically 4 raid guild suspensions plus strange and non-consistent punishments towards others over the same incidents of hacking i am tired of this server and had enough.

At this point in time i know that it would be a uphill battle against a foe you cant win since its there server anyways, and funny thing was you (rogean) didnt even know wtf TMO was till uth told ya. And no TMO isnt DA, only taking on a dozen or so from DA as did TR, but i guess wherever durison ended up you had already set your sights to demoralize and destroy that guild (When you had the time to do so ofcause)

The rest can call me tinfoil or whatever, but with that many suspension seriously would anyone else continue to play when they are restricted over and over again, i mean sure i can continue but you never know when shit fly off the handle again and they throw out more random punches you cant really do anything about.

Well thanks for the fun Rogean/Nilbog, i have never deal with you guys directly before but i kind of feel alot of unfairness is happening more often as of recent towards only one side. Good luck with this server and good luck to everyone else on it, i hope it all works out.

[Lazortag]

At this point i am pretty much done too. And theres afew reason thats already been said. But i might as well add another one no one has mentioned. Before Kunark was out, DA was actually suspended a third time. The reason behind it was over a mob dispute. 4 guilds sitting on noble DJ, at this time the raid rules were already changed but they still instated the 15man sitting on raidboss bullcrap (Note Noble DJ is non KOS). Of all 3-4 guilds there was no evidence given from any guild just the basic all guild sitting on it and the roundabout argument and misunderstanding of FTE. Of the 4 guild that was there DA was the only one to be slapped with all there officer/leadership suspended (Regardless if they were online or not) and a guild raid suspension of 2 weeks. (wish had a copy of that chat log in guild, was epic)

Now i know multiple guilds know of this incident just not the part about DA getting GM slap. It took like a hour or so to argue our way out of that unjust decision but seriously wtf is your problem dude?

Now after getting hit with basically 4 raid guild suspensions plus strange and non-consistent punishments towards others over the same incidents of hacking i am tired of this server and had enough.

At this point in time i know that it would be a uphill battle against a foe you cant win since its there server anyways, and funny thing was you (rogean) didnt even know wtf TMO was till uth told ya. And no TMO isnt DA, only taking on a dozen or so from DA as did TR, but i guess wherever durison ended up you had already set your sights to demoralize and destroy that guild (When you had the time to do so ofcause)

The rest can call me tinfoil or whatever, but with that many suspension seriously would anyone else continue to play when they are restricted over and over again, i mean sure i can continue but you never know when shit fly off the handle again and they throw out more random punches you cant really do anything about.

Well thanks for the fun Rogean/Nilbog, i have never deal with you guys directly before but i kind of feel alot of unfairness is happening more often as of recent towards only one side. Good luck with this server and good luck to everyone else on it, i hope it all works out.

Wasn't the third raid suspension due to the fact that you had bards playing denon's disruptive discord on isle 1.5 and people spamming /pet attack on uthgaard just to lag up the zone? I'm just trying to clarify what happened, because that's what I heard at the time.

[nilbog]

Rogean and nilbog wouldn't even be posting right now if they didn't need to do damage control... in other words... they know they fucked up.

Enygmad.

I was posting yesterday because the OP said VP wasn't done due to lack of development. Random guy comes in and makes the thread about TMO ? I guess. In case you didn't read the thread you're posting in.

You also lost your main developer (Uthgaard) due to yourself and Rogean being biased corrupt fuck heads. Don't blame your shitty server on the player base. Blame it on lack of integrity on both your and Rogean's part.

You've lost a lot of your playerbase due to favoritism. You've obviously made your decision as to what's important. The success of Transatlantic Nerdrage.
Enygmad

My main developer? Uthgaard was recruited to do development, but ended up primarily doing CSR because we were shorthanded. I'm the main content developer you fucking idiot.

Integrity intact. It seems like you care a hell of a lot about abbreviations and pixels though.

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People like this will always exist. I never understood it fully when I played classic eqlive. Now I do. There is always someone to blame for your own failure if GMs are there to listen.

[Morlaeth]

This is untrue. I can't speak for rogean and nilbog simply because i'm not them. I actually care about every player on this server. That's why i volunteer my time and energy to guide. I enjoy helping people.



I wish. Sadly I was not.

NOT TRUE! I have screenshots of Amelinda saying otherwise!

[Knuckle]

Alot of upset pplz in this thred, mebe we make baby and every goog now

[fishingme]

If they didn't post TMO would say the GMs are ignoring their concerns and add it to the list of reasons why they are biased.

It looks like TMO have decided they are the victims and interpret all information on this basis.

As someone unafilliated with either guild TMO have really fucked themselves over in this thread. You look like a bunch of idiots.

I am in TR and I have to admit that there is some bias going on.

[Sold]

RIP TMO cya's in swtor!

[Eccezan]

I am in TR and I have to admit that there is some bias going on.

[Slathar]

RIP TMO cya's in swtor!

are you mad that you failed trying to RMT your bone clasped girdle for $350?

[Ektar]

I am in TR and I have to admit that there is some bias going on.



I am in TMO and I have to admit there is some bias going on.

[Zereh]

I've always had huge amounts of respect for the people and guilds that perservere under hardship. that's why I have such a hardon for guys like getsome and trystych and swarws -- those guys don't implode at the first sign of adversity.

LOL Such comedy! How can you even talk about adversity? You play this game knowing that the Rogean & Co always, always have your back. You're don't have any more skill or drive or determination than anyone else here ~ you just have a staff that ensures you stay on the top of the heap. That's the secret to your "success" on P99. Nothing else.

[karsten]

server is older than two days guy

[Zereh]

server is older than two days guy

No shit. But the end result is the same. Server staff quashes your competition. =) IB in trouble, ban DA! TR in trouble, ban TMO! whew, problem taken care of temporarily!

[Sold]

are you mad that you failed trying to RMT your bone clasped girdle for $350?

rotfl! WTF do you come up with this stuff lol.

[Papa]

No shit. But the end result is the same. Server staff quashes your competition. =) DA breaks server rules with tons of proof, ban DA! TMO breaks server rules with tons of proof, ban TMO! whew, problem taken care of hopefully permanently!

FTFY

[fishingme]

rotfl! WTF do you come up with this stuff lol.

Your IP address being the same.

[Eccezan]

FTFY

Enjoy being the biggest fish in your ever diminishing rain puddle of a server.

[Papa]

if only I WAS a big fish getting all those sweet raid targets :(

your delusions/public meltdown have been hilarious

[Ektar]

does taking the scum out of the bottom of a puddle make it worse? idkkk

[Rais]

Zereh had me at " Not impressed"

/swoon

[Eccezan]

if only I WAS a big fish getting all those sweet raid targets :(

your delusions/public meltdown have been hilarious

whatever dude -- call it whatever you like -- At the very least I made my point and made my peace with you trash -- the bias on this server is evident. For you to be calling it anything different in the face of multitudes of players leaving and ever decreasing population is just a joke. When the server is at 100 players average because everyone else has realized that they are playing on your little sandbox, I hope you are enjoying your best loot in game.

enjoy your escape -- last post for me douchebags! im out!

[Ektar]

thanks tataaa

[Silentone]

Why wasn't TR punished for Sev?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eccezan
(12:37:52 PM): That isn't exactly the case.. Amelinda showed me all the evidence for the sev situation and even reminded me again a day later to look at it again and come a conclusion.. we simply did not have enough proof to take action.. and that is the majority of situations

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silentone
1)You werent there when you banned our guild from raiding
2) When we petitioned TR KSing Sev from us a few days ago, you werent there either..BUT....TR never denied Pulling Sev off of us, infact they admited it and then went on to explain why. The argument between TR and TMO started when there was a disargreement on whether TMO was Kiting Sev with 40+ in zone. So with that said you dont need any more proof that TR actually KS'd Sev they admited it, what you cant prove with the fraps and pics and such is whether it was being Kited or not.. So how come you dont act on information you had on hand, which is TR admiting they KS'd a mob we had FTE on. Again to all Admins, this isnt me lashing out or complaining im just curious and am going off of what you stated earlier.

In response to you Iondera, you are scewing my words, see this is exactly what i mean, i wasnt refering to being able to prove whether Sev was being Kitted or not, i was refering to TR admiting they KS'd Sev from us, TR claims they had rights becasue we were kitting, Rogean admits that there isnt enough information to show that TMO was or was not kitting, however there is no dispute on the fact that TR KS'ed Seve they openely admited it..why is nothing being done about this? and why are admins responding to all this accusations but when i construct something semi formal I dont even get a response?

Fact: TMO had FTE with 40 in zone (not disputed)
Fact: We were pulling Sev to TT zone (not disputed)
Fact: TR pulled Sev off of our Bard and Killed it (not disputed)
Disputed Fact: TMO was Kitting Sev

Now Rogean claims the fraps/pics/logs are not enough to prove or disprove the disputed fact Sev being Kitted
TR addmiting they KS'ed sev.. why is Rogean or Admins acting on this? ...thats my question I dont know how else to word it,

Again...id like to ad, I am not butt hurt...i dont care about the suspension....I admire the work the devs,admins, CSR, all put in the server. I just want an answer so that I can be satisfied and know that you guys are doing everything you can to be fair.

[Ektar]

if only you could see the tiny little shifts and turns you put into your own words to twist it to what you want it to say. that'd be something

[Tarathiel]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/mudslag/TinFoilHatArea.jpg

[Zereh]

Whatever. We always knew what we were up against. It's good to be reminded though. <3

[Fountree]

Facts:
1. TR petitions are responded to by Rogean within 12 hours, TMO's are ignored (we have 3 months of petitions that were unresponded to). No action taken against TR on the false premise of 'not enough evidence' or 'not enough time'. TMO gets suspended 30 minutes before Trakanon, which they had been camping for 2 days. Oh, Rogean didn't know the spawn time? Blow me.
2. Rogean has seen TR ks mobs from TMO, and has not suspended them, but instead has chosen to give loot to TMO and take no action against TR (recent CT is an example). I WAS THERE.
3. TR's LEADERSHIP is proven to have used 3rd party software IN A RAID SITUATION, individually not banned by Rogean, no action taken against TR (suspension, nothing) server wide individual suspensions. Perun and others subsequently readmitted back into the guild, and then Powerleveled back to 60 by his guild mates.
4. Uthgaard leaves server due to "corruption" and "favoritism" behind the scenes. Don't know the details of this, but it's his stated reason for leaving.
5. Transcendance, DA, and now TMO have all been handed down harsh punishments over those handed town to IB/TR for their transgressions over the course of this servers history. There is a history of GM abuse of power.
6. VP released / GM event last night done (OMG PRETTY GUISES) in the wake of this suspension to turn the majority of the server's attention away from the injustice of Rogean's decision making process.
7. It's going to happen all over again. Just fucking wait. This server is a joke.

[Silentone]

if only you could see the tiny little shifts and turns you put into your own words to twist it to what you want it to say. that'd be something

Explain please?