bots are a stupid meta

[CrazyPro]

Ban the use of shared accounts, instantly fix the server.

Every guild has several dozen shared accounts with bots parked at every raid target so people can log in to those and instantly fill important roles which is not classic in the slightest. If your guild doesn't have a ton of level 60 cleric bots then you can't really compete. Eliminate this crutch and force people to raid on their actual characters like our lord and savior Brad McQuaid intended. Amen.

[kjs86z2]

unroot dragons and 1 hour fte lockout instead

[Ciderpress]

There's basically no way to stop account sharing that wouldn't be a massive headache for staff. Account sharing was never against the rules on live iirc, but far few people shared accounts because they weren't free. Some things about the original game can't be emulated and it's not for any code-related reason.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Implement char autopoof to EC if left in raid zone > 24 hours. No need to fidget with banning anything.

Sure, the guilds will simply run the characters back. That's the point. Monkey run.

[Knuckle]

Ban the use of shared accounts, instantly fix the server.

Every guild has several dozen shared accounts with bots parked at every raid target so people can log in to those and instantly fill important roles which is not classic in the slightest. If your guild doesn't have a ton of level 60 cleric bots then you can't really compete. Eliminate this crutch and force people to raid on their actual characters like our lord and savior Brad McQuaid intended. Amen.

When will the classic population match this non-classic intervention into shared toon banning you suggest?

[Duik]

The original game was set up for the hardcore gamer. The casual could not compete.
Time sinks ruled.
Those with literally no life or those that had jobs allowing concurrent timewasting, oops gaming owned the pixels.

Like now, only its free to play here and those that can be available (whatever the reason) at any time own the pixels.

I will never have an epic or a chalice or BIS anything requiring massive dkp.

That is as it should be.

Im not sorry I don't got, its just sad some of you feel the need to say it.

[Knuckle]

Are you a mage? Anyone can complete their epic in even casual raid guilds.

[Twochain]

Please unroot the dragons. Please.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Please unroot the dragons. Please.

This.

[Bardp1999]

But hey, we dont have those pesky Bards swarm kiting in dungeons - the server is thriving - Just today Red hit 25 concurrent players online and green a couple of hundred

[wuanahto]

why not when a raid target pops it ejects everyone logged out of the zone to erud's crossing and then code in some stuff to stop people over level 28 to bind in eruds crossing and have a 100% gate collapse chance/group port fail to anyone over level 28 in eruds crossing?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

why not when a raid target pops it ejects everyone logged out of the zone to erud's crossing and then code in some stuff to stop people over level 28 to bind in eruds crossing and have a 100% gate collapse chance/group port fail to anyone over level 28 in eruds crossing?

I'd call this a good starting point.

Alas, p99 is a museum piece. There are some things added, like the volcanoes or whatever they are called, to allow people to still pixel hunt.

But every person familiar with the project say the same exact thing: if you want innovation and new ideas, this isn't that and won't be.

Keep in mind, the guys who built this emulator are in their late 70's at this point.
https://i.imgur.com/1NoC5lw.jpeg

It will require a younger man, much braver than they are in their dotage. to draw from this IP the riches and funnies it could yield, were only bravery and time not so thin on the ground these days.

[cd288]

But hey, we dont have those pesky Bards swarm kiting in dungeons - the server is thriving - Just today Red hit 25 concurrent players online and green a couple of hundred

Sorry you're lazy and aren't good at swarming outside

[Andyman1022]

Sorry you're lazy and aren't good at swarming outside

loled

[Bardp1999]

Sorry you're lazy and aren't good at swarming outside

c you REAL soon pal

[Swish]

New green would also fix OP's gripes if only temporarily.

[Wakanda]

The original game was set up for the hardcore gamer. The casual could not compete.
Time sinks ruled.
Those with literally no life or those that had jobs allowing concurrent timewasting, oops gaming owned the pixels.

Like now, only its free to play here and those that can be available (whatever the reason) at any time own the pixels.

I will never have an epic or a chalice or BIS anything requiring massive dkp.

That is as it should be.

Im not sorry I don't got, its just sad some of you feel the need to say it.
I actually agree with this aside from the fact that in order for this sentiment to be accurate they need to also get rid of PNP.

My memories of EverQuest back in the 90s and early 2000s was not a bunch of care bears who were worried about offending someone, and who would respect people's camps and wishes. My experience was a ton of cutthroat hormonal teenage psychopaths intentionally training, regularly KS'ing, sniping raid mobs, ninja looting, griefing etc.

Because of the PNP none of that exists. Is that a bad thing? Sometimes, yes. Overall? I don't know, I wasn't around during the early days of P99. But it kind of irks me when people are like such and such is so hardcore and then comparing to the olden days.
In the olden days I don't care that your guild mate told your other other guild mate who told you that you guys could indefinitely hold a camp around the clock by passing it off to each other every few hours. My group is coming in and taking this camp that y'all have been AFK farming for days now.
If you have a problem with it then bring more players and we'll DPS race. Sike, I'll actually just FD pull the entire zone on you and then do it again when you try to drag your corpse.

To me that was hardcore EverQuest. This ain't it. Even on TLPs I've seen the best guilds on the entire server who are way more coordinated than any thing I've witnessed on P99 get sniped by third rate guilds who just happened to be in the right place at the right time.

Doing something like that on P99 would get that guild banned. This is not hardcore. This is carebear shit.

[cd288]

As CSR during that time period your memory is exaggerated. Policies were put in place by late 1999 and you'd absolutely get warnings (and a ban after 3 warnings). Honestly, in my experience P99 is less stringent than the live policies were because they will give you temporary bans, occasionally review appeals of suspensions, etc.

On live once you hit warning 3 we just permanently banned your account with no appeal process.

[loramin]

As CSR during that time period your memory is exaggerated. Policies were put in place by late 1999 and you'd absolutely get warnings (and a ban after 3 warnings). Honestly, in my experience P99 is less stringent than the live policies were because they will give you temporary bans, occasionally review appeals of suspensions, etc.

On live once you hit warning 3 we just permanently banned your account with no appeal process.

There's no need for anyone's memories: our wiki has the Kunark Era Customer Service Guidelines (https://wiki.project1999.com/Kunark_Era_Customer_Service_Guidelines). As it turns out, the response depends on whether we're talking "minor disruption" (spamming a chat channel/non-fantasy name/kill stealing), "major disruption" (foul language/harassment/zone disruption) or "abuse" (sexual harassment/fraud/ninja looting):

8.2.2.7 For minor disruptions, three warnings will be issued. The perpetrator will then be suspended for a minimum period of three days. For major disruptions, two warnings will be issued, followed by suspension for a discretionary period with a one-week minimum. The next major disruption offense following suspension for major disruption will result in the player being banned.

8.1.2 Abuse Procedures
...
8.1.2.6 If this is the first incident for the accused, they will be suspended from the EverQuest servers for one week. If this is the second or later incident, the player will be banned from EverQuest.

[loramin]

P.S. I do wish our P99 rules were more classic, but only in one respeect:

8.2.1.1 Examples of Minor Disruption:

Non-Fantasy Names – Names that are not appropriate for the fantasy genre of EverQuest

[OuterChimp]

There aren't any bots on Teal.

[Zarakk]

My memories of EverQuest back in the 90s and early 2000s was not a bunch of care bears who were worried about offending someone, and who would respect people's camps and wishes. My experience was a ton of cutthroat hormonal teenage psychopaths intentionally training, regularly KS'ing, sniping raid mobs, ninja looting, griefing etc.
carebear shit.


Very interesting. But this was not the reality for many of us.

My memories of EQ back in the year 2000 was generally of decent players who did respect camps, didn't train or KS or ninja loot or any of that other anti-social BS. The Play Nice Policy was very much in force with Verant (as they were called at the time).

Now of course there were some anti-social idiots who did behave as you describe, absolutely, but they were the small (if loud) self-important minority. These folks tended to get petitioned of course, and would get little holidays from the GMs. I was one of those who petitioned folks like that, and back then, GMs would often respond and appear in person at the camp and take action swiftly.

Most of us appreciated it.

Not that the above has anything to do with shared accounts, mind you.

[Jimjam]

P.S. I do wish our P99 rules were more classic, but only in one respeect:

Sirken renamed my toon from ‘aaaaa’ to ‘Aaaba’ :(

[Duik]

On live i had a Gnome Paladin called Gnonads. Got a msg to change it. So as a smartarse i chose Gnowm. They allowed it.

At 20 I chose a surname.

Gnowm Deplume was born.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I actually agree with this aside from the fact that in order for this sentiment to be accurate they need to also get rid of PNP.

My memories of EverQuest back in the 90s and early 2000s was not a bunch of care bears who were worried about offending someone, and who would respect people's camps and wishes. My experience was a ton of cutthroat hormonal teenage psychopaths intentionally training, regularly KS'ing, sniping raid mobs, ninja looting, griefing etc.

Because of the PNP none of that exists. Is that a bad thing? Sometimes, yes. Overall? I don't know, I wasn't around during the early days of P99. But it kind of irks me when people are like such and such is so hardcore and then comparing to the olden days.
In the olden days I don't care that your guild mate told your other other guild mate who told you that you guys could indefinitely hold a camp around the clock by passing it off to each other every few hours. My group is coming in and taking this camp that y'all have been AFK farming for days now.
If you have a problem with it then bring more players and we'll DPS race. Sike, I'll actually just FD pull the entire zone on you and then do it again when you try to drag your corpse.

To me that was hardcore EverQuest. This ain't it. Even on TLPs I've seen the best guilds on the entire server who are way more coordinated than any thing I've witnessed on P99 get sniped by third rate guilds who just happened to be in the right place at the right time.

Doing something like that on P99 would get that guild banned. This is not hardcore. This is carebear shit.

This was quellious. PNP meant group level, because it wasn't cool to grief people grinding. If you did grief a group grinding, usually the whole guild of one member or another would come to chase the evil doers.

Raiding was ffa.

So how did it even work? My radical theory is, if you were to simulate link deaths and lag spikes and zone crashes as they occurred during the first 4 years, you would find -- at last! -- the genuine gameplay of classic.

I can't imagine a guild relying on a single char training a zone, for example. That's a crash and a LD, and some follow on LD's followed by a wipe.

In live if you zoned your entire raid into PoF at once, you crashed the zone.

Also, when Kunark was first released you had to camp out and back in in sebilis cuz you aggrod stuff when you went past the first door.

Add "bugs" and you also get the original gameplay. But this game can't fail in 2025, and so a bard can kite all day. Using a steam deck.

[zelld52]

i was real happy when i migrated to p99 from other EQEmus a few years back, because the tunnel was active and the raid scene was active and competitive.

then i spent a little time raiding and realized theres either warm bodies who arent fun to play with because they are seemingly AFK the whole time

and tryhards who have 8 level 60s and swap back and forth during raids, gearing up their 3rd monk.

back when i played between 2000-2003/4, people had one toon. and they spent their entire time invested in the game on the one toon. and if they didnt spend the time learning their class they quit by level 30.

Nowadays its people who get carried to 60 and sit AFK on raids to collect DKP and people who just cant give this game up.

(Im a part of the latter camp)

[Trexller]

i was real happy when i migrated to p99 from other EQEmus a few years back

now it's all about THJ :D

[zelld52]

now it's all about THJ :D

ugh i cant lie i saw nearly 5k players and it really intrigued me. but im also a sucker for "legit" eq. i like the grind

[Trexller]

ugh i cant lie i saw nearly 5k players and it really intrigued me. but im also a sucker for "legit" eq. i like the grind

oh there is plenty of grind on THJ, it will make you think on much larger scales

it'll seem easy then all of a sudden it wont

[Solist]

Bots are a stupid meta?

Man having one main, in early kunark, and it is parked and bound at trakanon. That was a stupid meta.

[cd288]

ugh i cant lie i saw nearly 5k players and it really intrigued me. but im also a sucker for "legit" eq. i like the grind

Isn't it 5k because you can run a bunch of characters at a time or something like that?

[kjs86z2]

Isn't it 5k because you can run a bunch of characters at a time or something like that?

dont think boxing is allowed but may be happening

but no, your 1 character is 3 classes worth of skills / AAs

[kjs86z2]

its easily the best version of EQ today for casual dads

you can solo everything if thats your thing...or you can team up with friends

i played a little after launch and the hate AA farm groups at 50 were rockin

[Trexller]

Isn't it 5k because you can run a bunch of characters at a time or something like that?

you can have 1 toon playing and 1 bazaar trader up, at any given time there are ~8-900 traders up unless server rebooted which is rather often.

Plat comes pretty easy, 5k easy from a half-seb zone pull. I haven't bothered with a trader yet, im giving gear away like mad. Loot from bosses i killed, gear that I upgraded all gets given away in global ooc. plus if someone is askin questions and i can tell they are struggling I give them plat or get them some gear from the baz. Sometimes you can find near-BiS gear for 500p

at least once a day i carry someone through some progression flagging, i was happy to see that while everyone mostly solos there is alot of player support in the community and I wanna cultivate that so others will continue to pay it forward.

[cd288]

Interesting. Sounds too WoW-ish for me IMO

[Trexller]

Sounds too WoW-ish for me IMO

It's not

I hated wow from the day it launched. Got the free 1 week trial and was like hell no.

logged on eq again and never looked back

[kjs86z2]

i mean wow classic / sod is miles better lol

but hey if you're still addicted to everquest in 2025 thats your deal

[Trexller]

yes and because I have put down WoW, I have invalidated every personal opinion that you ever held and you must now reconsider all of your life's choices from birth

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

no corpse run, no peace