2025 new p99 Gold server

[Viscere]

All the latest patches fixing classic elements and the obvious hyper-activity of the staff are clearly hinting at a new p99 server in 2025.

What class will you be rolling on p99 Gold ?

[Jimjam]

Halfling warrior

[Andyman1022]

Gnome Shadowknight

[loramin]

If Enchanters are fixed to be classic in time for "gold", then an Echanter. Otherwise probably a Wizard or Shadow Knight.

[Reiwa]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Golden_Flow

[Swish]

I'll play any new server. There were exciting things announced for the red community some years back, surely this new server is going to be a pvp one of some kind.

[NachtMystium]

When all of us EverQuester's die of old age, who will carry the torch? who will carry the boats?

[cd288]

If Enchanters are fixed to be classic in time for "gold", then an Echanter. Otherwise probably a Wizard or Shadow Knight.

Another thread another Loramin comment bitching about enchanters. Do you ever talk about anything else?

[Swish]

Another thread another Loramin comment bitching about enchanters. Do you ever talk about anything else?

Have you considered updating the wiki?

[Duik]

When all of us EverQuester's die of old age, who will carry the torch? who will carry the boats?

Many players trick their kids into playing I've noticed.
Depending on how many become diehards, maybe we will fi d dropped torches everywhere.

Another consideration is if games are designed with (only fiscal) non concerns they will become dumpster fires like Pantheon, Fall Of The Risen. Youths with taste may prefer an historic museum piece though flawed, offers specific gameplay options rather than cookie cutter gimmie gimmie lootz.

Monsters and Memories (devs) seem to value both Monsters And Memories rather than money and microtransactions.

[BattleToad99]

Troll SK

[loramin]

Another thread another Loramin comment bitching about enchanters. Do you ever talk about anything else?

I like classic (Enchanters, and everything else).

Why don't you?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

https://i.imgur.com/tPa0vMy.jpeg

[AkashicRecord]

Many players trick their kids into playing I've noticed.
Depending on how many become diehards, maybe we will fi d dropped torches everywhere.

My 9 yr-old son now loves EQ. Am I a bad parent? Lol

[Wakanda]

I like classic (Enchanters, and everything else).

Why don't you?

thats one thing about pantheon, enchanters feel more like classic. lots of p99 players btiching on reddit about how come enchanters dont have charm. like in their mind the classic EQ experience is every group having a charmed mob to trivialize content that would otherwise be challenging.

i went from playing an enchanter on p99 to playing an enchanter on pantheon over night and i honestly enjoy the pantheon experience more. even with no charmed pet they added a ton of finesse to the class, like we over here stealing mana from mobs to give it to our group members, CCing is way more impactful (a single add will wipe a group), we have fancy tools to survive, in an ability that drops our aggro when mobs is lighting us up. also interrupting/silencing/spell stealing is a critical role in this game and literally no one does it better than enchanter, you can literally steal the most powerful spell in the game and cast it on your group.

like imagine playing WoW if a priest could steal OP spells like bloodlust from a random mob and cast it on his group. this is a real thing on pantheon. but its on a huge cool down and it can be tricky to pull off since mobs spam a lot of useless spells and you only have 5 seconds to re-cast the spell after you steal it.

[Duik]

My 9 yr-old son now loves EQ. Am I a bad parent? Lol

No way! Im just jealous cuz mine (14 and 10) are lil shitbags who dont wanna play with me. Id have an insta group as well.
You are a good parent and Im a bad tricker.

[Eisai]

No way! Im just jealous cuz mine (14 and 10) are lil shitbags who dont wanna play with me. Id have an insta group as well.
You are a good parent and Im a bad tricker.

Try bartering/extortion. They ask for anything and you tell them you want "family time" in return(that way it doesn't count as rmt ROFL).

[azeth]

Idk if a new server would offer anything different if enchanter charm remains as powerful as it is. The meta is enchanter and everything in support of them

[Eisai]

Well, they are a support class. :P

I only six man so I've never seen the issue with bringing mana, crowd control, slow, mega DPS and loads of xp to the hard working denizens of norrath. Is there a way to make then less soloable without screwing up the party? Maybe just make it so charm pets don't hold aggro at all?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

My 9 yr-old son now loves EQ. Am I a bad parent? Lol

Some players today might be the grown-up infants and toddlers I would hear yaorling in the background as their mother healed me.

It would be kewl if things took a step forward, and today players just rig their kids toys to macros.

Timmy! Toy football! Toy football! Blocks, red one the red block!

Take a five minute nap, good kill.

[Duik]

AFK Away For Knap

[Duik]

Well, they are a support class. :P

I only six man so I've never seen the issue with bringing mana, crowd control, slow, mega DPS and loads of xp to the hard working denizens of norrath. Is there a way to make then less soloable without screwing up the party? Maybe just make it so charm pets don't hold aggro at all?


Sounds like a cult. :+P
In 1999 I musta been in a cult as well. Just like a DnD IRL group.
Tank. Chanter. Cleric. Monk. Wiz. Rog. Back then? It was BIS.
Now? Drop wiz and tank for 2 chanters. 2 charm pets FTW and speed to 60.
I'd have never thort to solo for an FBSS or a Mith 2handa. But I did suck at EQ.

[loramin]

Well, they are a support class. :P

I only six man so I've never seen the issue with bringing mana, crowd control, slow, mega DPS and loads of xp to the hard working denizens of norrath. Is there a way to make then less soloable without screwing up the party? Maybe just make it so charm pets don't hold aggro at all?

Simple: make charm more risky to use, like it was on live.

[druidbob]

New servers are the best time to roll group dependent classes, so I would likely start with rogue.

[Swish]

Simple: make charm more risky to use, like it was on live.

https://media.tenor.com/8iCfuWxzPRIAAAAj/can-you-prove-that-dr-tara-lewis.gif

[Eisai]

New servers are the best time to roll group dependent classes, so I would likely start with rogue.

Rogue won't have evade at launch so make friends with a paladin like me!

[eisley]

https://media.tenor.com/8iCfuWxzPRIAAAAj/can-you-prove-that-dr-tara-lewis.gif

I was an enchanter on live and level 40+ before clarity was even added to the class. Charming was much riskier for a multitude of reasons, from duration, to it being viable to keep yourself Rune'd, but most importantly the very obviously broken Channeling.

Torching for auto quads is another obvious p99 invention, though I don't think anyone contends that. The memblur rate on Mez is yet another broken thing that isn't even contested - nobody who played back then thinks Mesmerize actually blurred like 50% of the time.

There's other issues too like Pacify, but ultimately all that really matters is Channeling. If we had era appropriate Channeling, Enchanters would be close enough to fixed. I can't think of anything else in this games history, and I've been around for a little bit, to have such a wide breadth of evidence proving it to be broken on p99, but simply ignored.

It would change the game entirely.

[Viscere]

We're here to talk about p99 Gold not thrash enchanters

[eisley]

Thrashing Enchanters is classic.

[Eisai]

I think the argument about "classic" needs to have a focused definition. We're fluctuating between what IS classic and what FEELS classic. Some of us want original eq so we can dominate the game that kicked our teenage asses and some of us want a game that feels as difficult and rewarding as original eq did even with all of our extensive knowledge of exploitable features and min/max moneyballing statistics.

Maybe this is the line that needs to be drawn between the two servers.

Imitation Vanilla Vs. Vanilla bean

[eisley]

Yeah, we call them people who want Classic (purists) and people who want Not Classic. There is nuance but this is what it boils down to.

Over time the Devs shifted from the former to the latter.

[CrazyPro]

Remove all the unclassic nerfs, unroot dragons, let us disable dynamic lighting, disable /who all zone, fix AC damage reduction tables, mouse 3rd person zoom, remove all the other unclassic commands, etc.

Then P99 will actually be as close to classic as it can be with this client full of out of era features. Right now TAKP is more accurate to PoP era than P99 is to Velious.

[Jimjam]

fix AC damage reduction tables,

There is something odd in the melee calcs. Check out this level less than 45 rogue skeleton versus a level 50 giant. I don’t know where the issues may fall but check it out:

https://i.imgur.com/XqKxfO7.jpeg

That is mode hit of max versus a red mob of about 6 levels difference. Classic?!

[CrazyPro]

There is something odd in the melee calcs. Check out this level less than 45 rogue skeleton versus a level 50 giant. I don’t know where the issues may fall but check it out:

https://i.imgur.com/XqKxfO7.jpeg

That is mode hit of max versus a red mob of about 6 levels difference. Classic?!

In classic (and on literally every server that isn't p99) AC is king. On P99, HP is king because AC barely makes a difference. I remember when Project Quarm launched everyone was commenting on how they could actually notice the difference AC made.

[Eisai]

If you go full classic pets can hold aggro for rogues!

[Duik]

I'd pick a rogue class pet ;+P

[arvidez]

i heard that the problem is p99 has been at velious for like 12 years longer than the original timespan of less than three yrs.

why wouldnt you want a server that resets every 3 years

[Bardp1999]

Probably a Paladin or Cleric to start

[Daluvian]

I’d be down for a new server!

[Ciderpress]

I think the argument about "classic" needs to have a focused definition. We're fluctuating between what IS classic and what FEELS classic.

Thanks for being sane and saying the same thing I've been saying since forever about this.

I had my epic in classic. Here I do not have it. So unclassic.

[Eisai]

/gig

What class are you, daddy?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Stay on target

https://i.imgur.com/1noVGF7.jpeg

[shovelquest]

I am confused, is this real life?

[Eisai]

"Grind exp" is the catch line on my Plenty of Fish profile.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

"Grind exp" is the catch line on my Plenty of Fish profile.

Any free site like PoF is like 90% bots unfortunately :/

[Ekco]

Any free site like PoF is like 90% bots unfortunately :/

bots will eventually be a good thing, people are already talking about the future of dating is your AI avatar speed dating other AI avatars

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

bots will eventually be a good thing, people are already talking about the future of dating is your AI avatar speed dating other AI avatars

Bots will eventually be the vast majority of profiles on most social media platforms for sure

And that’s probably true about the avatars lol. Sucks for me because I’ve always felt like I was able to separate myself somewhat from the masses of dudes by trying to have witty interesting message banter. I’ll resist forever having AI do my profile or messaging for me. But if I get the feeling I’m talking to a bot, I’ll probably end up arguing and losing my shit with them like I’ve done with scam bots in the past….well going all the way back to the days of yahoo and AOL chat rooms :(

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

bots will eventually be a good thing, people are already talking about the future of dating is your AI avatar speed dating other AI avatars

I'm looking forward to the probably not insignificant number of parents who will not allow their 'tween to buy an AI personal assistant b/c they are paranoid or religious, and then for one particular half a decade, too bad, because the first generation of kids to have a certain level and quality of access to what can be trained to be essentially a highly-skilled personal tutor, are going to own the planet.

About another year. for ChatGPT at least. Should be good to teach you grammar, math, vocabulary, reading skills, a second language, up through HS very soon.

It's all about dat Epoch AI score.

AI is currently leveling with a ZEM unheard of before.

It's not going to crush us. It's going to make it so if you are an idiot, you truly only have yourself to fucking blame. Google "gamification." Knowledge acquisition is eminently gameable --and always has been. Getting a doctorate is a very hard quest, is all.

But all this is irrelevant to people who are free and sleazy enough. Hence we circle back to the topic at hand. p99 Gold.
https://i.imgur.com/eKEDlgo.jpeg

[shovelquest]

I have never played a wizard, and am waiting till the next fresh server to do that, although I was hoping to do that on a fresh PVP sever but existence is torture.

[shovelquest]

My girlfriend is AI, my raiding guild is AI, and I am super dumb.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

About another year. for ChatGPT at least. Should be good to teach you grammar, math, vocabulary, reading skills, a second language, up through HS very soon.



I dunno, we’ve all had an infinite amount of knowledge, including entire under/graduate-level degrees worth at our fingertips for years and years now. Yet look at how dumb we remain

I don’t think a questionably aged animated anime girl with huge rocking tits explaining it is going to change anything

[Viscere]

They are recruiting new guides

P99 gold get rdy to roll

Wts manastone

[Reiwa]

I'm looking forward to the probably not insignificant number of parents who will not allow their 'tween to buy an AI personal assistant b/c they are paranoid or religious, and then for one particular half a decade, too bad, because the first generation of kids to have a certain level and quality of access to what can be trained to be essentially a highly-skilled personal tutor, are going to own the planet.

About another year. for ChatGPT at least. Should be good to teach you grammar, math, vocabulary, reading skills, a second language, up through HS very soon.

It's all about dat Epoch AI score.

AI is currently leveling with a ZEM unheard of before.

It's not going to crush us. It's going to make it so if you are an idiot, you truly only have yourself to fucking blame. Google "gamification." Knowledge acquisition is eminently gameable --and always has been. Getting a doctorate is a very hard quest, is all.

But all this is irrelevant to people who are free and sleazy enough. Hence we circle back to the topic at hand. p99 Gold.
https://i.imgur.com/eKEDlgo.jpeg

Sadre Talleyrand harumph.

That's what you get, sir!

[Ekco]

I dunno, we’ve all had an infinite amount of knowledge, including entire under/graduate-level degrees worth at our fingertips for years and years now. Yet look at how dumb we remain

I don’t think a questionably aged animated anime girl with huge rocking tits explaining it is going to change anything

it's a game changer for the Neurodiversity crowd, China been using Squirrel ai for like 5 years now while the west just put kids into a zoom call for covid and called it a win

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[Duik]

The Chinese also have a slave class and openly steal IP.

You simping knobs for AI astound me.

Simply ask AI what to say IRL and say it.

Nevermind though, Musk will have his chips in ya heads (lolocaust. NOOOO! 5G covid vaxx chips. Just lolocaust) soon enuf so you wont even need to manually interface with it.

Ha. A thought. You will literally be The Simpsons.

I go gurl.

[shovelquest]

Yeah there is no slave class in the USA at all

[Ekco]

The Chinese also have a slave class and openly steal IP.

You simping knobs for AI astound me.

Simply ask AI what to say IRL and say it.

Nevermind though, Musk will have his chips in ya heads (lolocaust. NOOOO! 5G covid vaxx chips. Just lolocaust) soon enuf so you wont even need to manually interface with it.

Ha. A thought. You will literally be The Simpsons.

I go gurl.

Ah, the age-old fear of the unknown. It seems you're more afraid of your own thoughts than you are of AI.

Newsflash: AI is a tool, like a hammer. It can build a house or smash a window, depending on who wields it.

Instead of fearing the future, why not embrace it? Learn about AI, understand its potential, and help shape its development responsibly.

And please, for the love of all that is holy, lay off the conspiracy theories. They're doing more harm than any AI ever could.

[shovelquest]

The west is done.

Mega structures in Asia.

Mecca in ME

And factories in USA where these tHe ComPuTeR iZ SaTAN! can use their hands instead of their brains making shoes for the rest of the world.

[briefs]

Would rather see them merge blue and green; Quarum is still fairly new so I dont see the need for another p99 fresh at the moment.

[Ekco]

Would rather see them merge blue and green; Quarum is still fairly new so I dont see the need for another p99 fresh at the moment.

does Green still have an economy? if i was a green player i wouldn't want the blue database merged lol, maybe a character Xfer option from blue to green with all plat and bank slots deleted or something but that sounds like work.

even with 99% of RMT/exploiter accounts banned, blue's database will forever be dirty af

[Duik]

The billionaire fuckwits have already owned the AI and will/are using to to fuck us all over.
It is plain to see.
Im pleased you feel you have some form of control over it.
You will be drip fed whatever version they deem applicable to continue to pique our collective interest.

Goodo grasshopper. Keep reaching for that pebble.

[Ekco]

The billionaire fuckwits have already owned the AI and will/are using to to fuck us all over.
It is plain to see.
Im pleased you feel you have some form of control over it.
You will be drip fed whatever version they deem applicable to continue to pique our collective interest.

Goodo grasshopper. Keep reaching for that pebble.

Ah, the classic 'billionaire overlords' trope. While it's true that AI, like any powerful technology, can be misused, focusing solely on the doom and gloom misses the bigger picture.

Think of it this way: the internet, initially feared by some, has empowered countless individuals, fostered creativity, and connected people across the globe. AI, similarly, has the potential to revolutionize healthcare, tackle climate change, and unlock new frontiers of human knowledge.

Of course, we need to be vigilant and ensure responsible development. But dismissing it entirely is like refusing to use electricity because a few people might misuse it.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to train my AI-powered gardening assistant. Wish me luck in my rebellion against the tyranny of weeding!"

[Prismaticshop]

The west is done.

85% of reserve currencies and global transactions are done in western currencies.

The highest non-western aligned currency reserve is the chinese RMB amounting to 2.49% in 2024

Anything else?

[Duik]

Ah, the classic 'billionaire overlords' trope. While it's true that AI, like any powerful technology, can be misused, focusing solely on the doom and gloom misses the bigger picture.

Think of it this way: the internet, initially feared by some, has empowered countless individuals, fostered creativity, and connected people across the globe. AI, similarly, has the potential to revolutionize healthcare, tackle climate change, and unlock new frontiers of human knowledge.

Of course, we need to be vigilant and ensure responsible development. But dismissing it entirely is like refusing to use electricity because a few people might misuse it.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to train my AI-powered gardening assistant. Wish me luck in my rebellion against the tyranny of weeding!"

The internet also enables misdirection by mis/dis information. Exhibit A: Two of the largest diseminators of "information" are owned/controlled by two of the largest fuckwits on the planet. One who controls an AI company. You think he is freely giving that shit away? The latest and greatest?
True, I've said it before medical uses of AI are admirable. Cancer detection. Eye problems scanned and examines in the blink of an eye (sorry). AI works there. Agreed.

What does not is the AI used to place a layer between the human and the absolutely shit decisions made by AI passed on to "customers" allowing CEO's wriggle room to have a clean conscience.

Medical (lolocaust) descions made by AI. Rent/housing descions made by AI.

You think you can vett and controll that stuff little buddy?

Assuming you can code to that degree, do you honestly believe you can sway the design team away from designing crap algorithims?

I can wait.

So yes. I can see a great many positives with AI.
Alas you dont need to entertain any conspiracy theories to know that it will not end well given the people who throw money at it have zero interest in advancing anything but their own profits.
To think otherwise is naive at best.
You do you though.

[Ekco]

The internet also enables misdirection by mis/dis information. Exhibit A: Two of the largest diseminators of "information" are owned/controlled by two of the largest fuckwits on the planet. One who controls an AI company. You think he is freely giving that shit away? The latest and greatest?
True, I've said it before medical uses of AI are admirable. Cancer detection. Eye problems scanned and examines in the blink of an eye (sorry). AI works there. Agreed.

What does not is the AI used to place a layer between the human and the absolutely shit decisions made by AI passed on to "customers" allowing CEO's wriggle room to have a clean conscience.

Medical (lolocaust) descions made by AI. Rent/housing descions made by AI.

You think you can vett and controll that stuff little buddy?

Assuming you can code to that degree, do you honestly believe you can sway the design team away from designing crap algorithims?

I can wait.

So yes. I can see a great many positives with AI.
Alas you dont need to entertain any conspiracy theories to know that it will not end well given the people who throw money at it have zero interest in advancing anything but their own profits.
To think otherwise is naive at best.
You do you though.

Whoa there, cowboy, you sound like you've been watching too many dystopian sci-fi movies.

AI isn't some evil overlord trying to take over the world. It's just a tool, like a really powerful calculator.

Sure, there's always the potential for misuse, but that's true of any technology. We need to focus on building systems that are fair, transparent, and accountable.

Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater, alright?

[Reiwa]

ekco it's not nice to paste AI responses duik won't notice

[Ekco]

ekco it's not nice to paste AI responses duik won't notice

yeah Gemini 1.5 said the same thing, i had to say it was fictional and duik wasn't a real person with feelings.

[arvidez]

AI isn't some evil overlord trying to take over the world. It's just a tool, like a really powerful calculator.


like a calculator, but for books. punch in the passage you are struggling with and outcomes an interpretation. its usually terrible, but we usually come to an agreement that lets me move on.

[Reiwa]

85% of reserve currencies and global transactions are done in western currencies.

The highest non-western aligned currency reserve is the chinese RMB amounting to 2.49% in 2024

Anything else?

You really can't count on the rest of "the West".

Japan yes, Swiss for sure, UK and associated varies, Euro absolutely not.

https://realeconomy.rsmus.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/4_17_2023_dollar_1.png

[Duik]

Whoa there, cowboy, you sound like you've been watching too many dystopian sci-fi movies.

The above does not even warrant a considered response. So just no.

AI isn't some evil overlord trying to take over the world. It's just a tool, like a really powerful calculator.

When its the tools using (and, let's face it, controlling) this calculator you can write 7107734S or 80085 for the lulz or

Sure, there's always the potential for misuse, but that's true of any technology. We need to focus on building systems that are fair, transparent, and accountable.

The sentence above proves you do not fully understand that we are not in control of this stuff. It takes computing power and money to impliment. This money comes from people who, when they invest Want their fucking money back.
They care not how its made. The faster and the more the better.
Do you agree with this simple truth?

Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater, alright?

The baby is already gone. They will have the hotdogs. You will get the hotdog soup and you will thank them.


On another hilarious note, Im sitten in my car down the main street and a ute drives past that does rural fencing. They also proclaim to do Vertibrate Pest Control.
Dingoes. 'Roos. Goats. Pigs. Americans. Maybe not the last one.
That is fucking gold.

[Ekco]

>a ute

great now i have to read every one of your posts in a fucked up Australian accent now, country took the design of an el caminos and made it their entire personality.

[shovelquest]

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[NopeNopeNopeNope]

/shrug I dunno, I’m pro-capitalism but when I think it’s not absurd to think follow the investment money for this AI programming and you’ll understand it’s interests

The premise of “AI is only as competent as its programming” is kind of a moot point because obviously the programming is only going to get better and more competent

[Ekco]

it's not even programming it's literally a blackbox they don't understand and they can only twist the knobs on weights and measures and adjust based on the results they get on the otherside.

Stephen Wolfram, the dude who fixed ChatGPT not being able to do basic fucking math correctly with his Wolfram Plugin explains what is actually going on in this video

he explains it pretty well starting at the 13min mark in a way i haven't heard the other talking heads explain it
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these Large Language models basically have nothing to do with AGI or AI

[Duik]

>a ute

great now i have to read every one of your posts in a fucked up Australian accent now, country took the design of an el caminos and made it their entire personality.

Took the design of a handheld pump action penis extension and made it their entire personality.

Also not everyone has a ute. We use them when we need. Like fencing Vertibrate Pest Controllers. And plumbers.

[Ekco]

Took the design of a handheld pump action penis extension and made it their entire personality.

Also not everyone has a ute. We use them when we need. Like fencing Vertibrate Pest Controllers. And plumbers.

Mate, you're having a bloody laugh! 'Vertibrate Pest Control'? Sounds like something straight outta the Outback! What, do they wrestle crocs with a boomerang? I reckon they'd have more luck with a didgeridoo, honestly.

And 'handheld pump action penis extension'? You've gotta be kidding me. That's the most Aussie thing I've ever heard, even if it is a bit... descriptive. Sounds like something you'd see at a bogan barbie, right?

But seriously, who needs a ute for everything? I mean, I get it, they're handy for chucking a few slabs in the back and heading to the beach, but a ute for the plumber? That's just ridiculous. You'd need a bloody crane to get a toilet down that thing!

Honestly, you blokes crack me up. All this talk of utes and 'roos and whatnot. It's like you're living in a different world down there. A world where everyone wears thongs and talks about 'strewth' all the time. No offense, mate, but it's a bit much, wouldn't you say?"

Disclaimer: This response is intended to be humorous and satirical. It is not meant to be offensive or disrespectful to Australians or Australian culture.

[Duik]

Regarding the disclaimer: That is the whole idea of aussie culture. Insult the shit outta ya workmate/aquaintance/bloke at the pub in a good natured way but fuck help someone who actually insults that guy cuz you'd go ballistic defending him.

Also, plumbers need a ute to store their crack. And the pipe for it.

I thank you.

[Castle2.0]

I will roll the manastone farming class.

[Jimjam]

Regarding the disclaimer: That is the whole idea of aussie culture. Insult the shit outta ya workmate/aquaintance/bloke at the pub in a good natured way but fuck help someone who actually insults that guy cuz you'd go ballistic defending him.

Also, plumbers need a ute to store their crack. And the pipe for it.

I thank you.

Certified cunt right here

[Duik]

Certified cunt right here

Always knew you was a straight up kinda guy.

[Jimjam]

Always knew you was a straight up kinda guy.

Takes one to know one :)

[Cecily]

My 9 yr-old son now loves EQ. Am I a bad parent? Lol
With utmost sincerity, yes. Introducing your child to something this addictive is a huge lapse in judgement.

[shovelquest]

yeah give them a phone!

[Reiwa]

With utmost sincerity, yes. Introducing your child to something this addictive is a huge lapse in judgement.

Strongly agree but I wouldn't call it a lapse in judgement.

[Ekco]

if you don't let your kids get addicted to screens they will basically get the homeschooler treatment from peers and be socially fucked up in a different way.

[Reiwa]

if you don't let your kids get addicted to screens they will basically get the homeschooler treatment from peers and be socially fucked up in a different way.

Don't leave the children on their own in the Bezos grooming camps.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

if you don't let your kids get addicted to screens they will basically get the homeschooler treatment from peers and be socially fucked up in a different way.

Kids can only be truly socialized by peers in person though

An unsocialized kid’s peers eventually reject them and adults give them fake smiles through the stress they create, and the kid most of the time sees through it and grows up thinking peers are others and adults are fake

[Ekco]

Kids can only be truly socialized by peers in person though


I agree but is that the actual reality now? heard they literally socialize online in like roblox and minecraft or w/e the fuck kids play and it's been that way for like a decade now

[Cecily]

Strongly agree but I wouldn't call it a lapse in judgement.
Cool what would you call it?

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

I agree but is that the actual reality now? heard they literally socialize online in like roblox and minecraft or w/e the fuck kids play and it's been that way for like a decade now

It’s doing some good, for sure it’s better than nothing

But because so much of communication is non-verbal, nothing will be superior to in person. You gotta learn how to hold your face. N stuff ;)

[Reiwa]

Cool what would you call it?

The closest thing I can think of is contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

[Reiwa]

Some parents have shit judgement, so it's not a lapse is all.

[Ekco]

The closest thing I can think of is contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

throw the parents in jail and make them a ward of a corporation like Amazon.

everyone wins then.

[Cecily]

Some parents have shit judgement, so it's not a lapse is all.
I'm not using it in the momentary lapse sense of the idiom. More like permanently scarring. Bad judgement. Fucking stupid parenting.

[Reiwa]

I'm not using it in the momentary lapse sense of the idiom. More like permanently scarring. Bad judgement. Fucking stupid parenting.

We have no quarrel then.

Mamas don't let your babies grow up to be SoW boys.

[Duik]

Im sittin out da front wiff 5 kids literally interacting with each other IRL!
2 10yr olds, and 11 and 2 13. Riding bikes and comparing kx80's to husky 50's and 80's. The 2 13's just left to fix their scooter tyre.

You guys live in the wrong country or look at the wrong things.

When was the last time you looked out the front? Also I live in a dead end street with 4 houses. 2 are empty.
Neighbour has permanent footy goal posts up. Footy is ultimate pvp. No sign of salaryman though. Which is prolly a good thing I 'spose.
Life sure does suck here.

[Ekco]

You guys live in the wrong country

Yes.

[Duik]

We have no quarrel then.

Mamas don't let your babies grow up to be SoW boys.

So Wizard is fine then?

[Ekco]

So Wizard is fine then?

Depends if they got that Rizzardry or not.

[Castle2.0]

People out here arguing over proper parenting.

Me out here planning how to corner the manastone market when the soon(TM) next server drops.

We are not the same :p

[briefs]

The level of autism in this thread is beyond. Save it for in game Kings/Queens.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

The level of autism in this thread is beyond. Save it for in game Kings/Queens.

Corky always had the episode's big message though. Same true here. Kids are playing Roblox too much gang! What happened to just being friends?

[shovelquest]

The level of autism in this thread is beyond. Save it for in game Kings/Queens.

Some of us had good parenting and dont play games and only use the forums.

I dont know what everquest is and came here because of the fappening.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Some of us had good parenting and dont play games and only use the forums.

I dont know what everquest is and came here because of the fappening.

I’m sure if they surveyed us gen x’s or gen y’s, the majority of us would say we are happy to have a childhood before the existence of the internet

I know I am anyway. Just like I am happy now to have access to the internet as an adult. Really hasn’t been a bad stretch of time to be alive, IMO. Sucks to have to die before immortality is figured out but not as bad as all those people who have to die RIGHT before it is figured out. I feel like that is worse. Or to be in the generation where cells aging has been canceled medically but to still have a tree fall on you or something and die that way

[Cecily]

People out here arguing over proper parenting.

Me out here planning how to corner the manastone market when the soon(TM) next server drops.

We are not the same :p
My dad was the first to level 50 on an emulated Everquest server.

[Reiwa]

I’m sure if they surveyed us gen x’s or gen y’s, the majority of us would say we are happy to have a childhood before the existence of the internet

I know I am anyway. Just like I am happy now to have access to the internet as an adult. Really hasn’t been a bad stretch of time to be alive, IMO. Sucks to have to die before immortality is figured out but not as bad as all those people who have to die RIGHT before it is figured out. I feel like that is worse. Or to be in the generation where cells aging has been canceled medically but to still have a tree fall on you or something and die that way

Haha imagine being tortured forever by an immortal jewish vampire :D

Good thing we'll both be dead before then!

Right?

[Diggle]

I’m sure if they surveyed us gen x’s or gen y’s, the majority of us would say we are happy to have a childhood before the existence of the internet

I know I am anyway. Just like I am happy now to have access to the internet as an adult. Really hasn’t been a bad stretch of time to be alive, IMO. Sucks to have to die before immortality is figured out but not as bad as all those people who have to die RIGHT before it is figured out. I feel like that is worse. Or to be in the generation where cells aging has been canceled medically but to still have a tree fall on you or something and die that way



ahh i say this all the time, i'm kind of pissed we're going to die before immortality comes out

[aaezil]

I'll play any new server. There were exciting things announced for the red community some years back, surely this new server is going to be a pvp one of some kind.

We already have a pvp server and nobody plays it - hope this helps

[Ekco]

i'm kind of pissed we're going to die before immortality comes out

through the silliness of probability, it's more likely you're already immortal and we're in a simulation than the way less probability you're in base reality and going to die right before immortality comes out

if it's a certainty immortality is achievable at all then it's the same argument as simulation theory

[Jimjam]

through the silliness of probability, it's more likely you're already immortal and we're in a simulation than the way less probability you're in base reality and going to die right before immortality comes out

if it's a certainty immortality is achievable at all then it's the same argument as simulation theory

Is the idea that each reality can contain multiple simulations (and each of those can have sub nested simulations), ergo simulations outnumber realities and of we imagine we are randomly inserted into one of these experiences then it is most likely we end up in the most common category, ie a simulated one?

[Ekco]

Is the idea that each reality can contain multiple simulations (and each of those can have sub nested simulations), ergo simulations outnumber realities and of we imagine we are randomly inserted into one of these experiences then it is most likely we end up in the most common category, ie a simulated one?

yeah, the math works out to be like basically the odds of winning the powerball is your chance of being in reality_01 and not simulation_387453456 or whatever

it's a thought experiment you can't disprove and math agrees with it

[Ekco]

really really fucks with people like Physicist S. James Gates, Jr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZQv1wWnOm0

Roko's Basilisk is the one that makes AI scientists have mental breaks.

[Ekco]

Rnf not having a edit button is so dumb

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[bcbrown]

There's a similar argument to be made using entropy calculations that at any given second, it's actually more likely that the universe randomly arranged itself to create us and our memories of the past out of the swirling chaos than that what we remember actually happened.

[Jimjam]

There's a similar argument to be made using entropy calculations that at any given second, it's actually more likely that the universe randomly arranged itself to create us and our memories of the past out of the swirling chaos than that what we remember actually happened.

That reminds me of Feyman’s many paths but on a larger scale.

[Cecily]

There was thing going around where apparently if you shoot a certain type of laser on a wall whilst on DMT you see matrix-like code going by. Guy has a project going on having a bunch of people independently to verify it. Kinda neat but simulation theory also feels like a secular version of religious escapism. Why I'm a big fan of nihilism to occam's razor all that shit into it does not fucking matter.

[bcbrown]

That reminds me of Feyman’s many paths but on a larger scale.

Are you talking about Feynman diagrams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feynman_diagram)?

I've never made that connection, but now that you mention it I certainly see it. Have you read his book QED? I think you'd really like it.

I came across this idea in an absolutely insane book, Time's Arrow (https://www.amazon.com/Times-Arrow-Archimedes-Point-Directions/dp/0195117980) by Huw Price. The argument goes something like this. Imagine a shoebox filled with white and black stones. If you first place all the white stones on the left side and the black stones on the white side, after you shake it up they'll all end up jumbled. If you shake it again it'll stay jumbled. This is kinda what entropy is: ordered arrangements of matter tend towards becoming disordered over time. It's possible that if you shake the box it'll end up sorted with all white on one side and black on the other, but it's very unlikely.

This is what we mean by the "arrow of time": certain things tend to become more disordered in the future, and more ordered in the past. You'll never see a broken egg on the floor leap up and reform whole in your hand, even though it's physically possible for that to happen. Price's argument rests on the fact that our brains are physical arrangements of matter, and our memories are stored in that matter. Since it's vanishingly unlikely that the arrangement of matter could ever be as ordered as it was in the past, it could actually be more likely that the random perturbations of matter somehow formed such that we have a memory of a well-ordered past than that the well-ordered past actually happened.


Kinda neat but simulation theory also feels like a secular version of religious escapism. Why I'm a big fan of nihilism to occam's razor all that shit into it does not fucking matter.

Yeah, I feel similarly. If a theory doesn't make any useful predictions that can actually prove or disprove the theory, it's not really worth spending too much time on. Can be fun to think about but in the end doesn't really matter.

[Reiwa]

Is the idea that each reality can contain multiple simulations (and each of those can have sub nested simulations), ergo simulations outnumber realities and of we imagine we are randomly inserted into one of these experiences then it is most likely we end up in the most common category, ie a simulated one?

Do we really "need" so many methods for denying Christ?

[Ekco]

Kinda neat but simulation theory also feels like a secular version of religious escapism. Why I'm a big fan of nihilism to occam's razor all that shit into it does not fucking matter.

yeah, as grey matter increases we create more and more complex belief structures as a defense mechanism against the great long sleep, next evolutionary leap will be merging all the abrahamics together like in Dune and remixing some AI in there and Hindu godheadism.

https://i.imgur.com/0bUR3sG.jpeg
it's chim i ain't gotta explain shit.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

There's a similar argument to be made using entropy calculations that at any given second, it's actually more likely that the universe randomly arranged itself to create us and our memories of the past out of the swirling chaos than that what we remember actually happened.

https://i.imgur.com/g7ZvyKe.jpeg

[Ekco]

Let's see what randomly arranged man-made horrors beyond our comprehension result from using the Boltzmann Brain paradox as a prompt

https://i.imgur.com/j2EHve0.jpeg

[shovelquest]

but like what would it randomly create itself out of?

[bcbrown]

but like what would it randomly create itself out of?

Two possible ways. The first is out of ordinary matter the same as what we are made of. Just a bunch of atoms sloshing around in space and at some point, however unlikely it may be, they all slosh around in just the right way to create the physical structure of a brain.

The second way is through quantum fluctuations. Quantum mechanics, an addition to being famously incomprehensible, is famously counterintuitive. There's a phenomenon called quantum tunneling where a particle can go from point A to point B without ever being in between. Imagine a mug full of coffee sitting on a table. Quantum tunneling would be like if the coffee could somehow travel from inside the mug to outside, on the table. Over time the mug could gradually empty out, not from evaporation, but from "leaking" out through the impermeable sides of the mug.

Perhaps even more counterintuitively, even in a completely empty vacuum, particles are constantly being created and destroyed. We all know about the law of conservation of matter: matter can't just be created out of nothing. But imagine that this law was enforced by a policeman who doesn't have eyes in the back of his head. You can create particles out of nothing when he's not watching as long as you destroy them before he turns around to look at you. You can have, for example, an electron and a positron created out of nothing that fly apart and then come back together to annihilate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annihilation) each other. The time scale where this can happen is something like 10^-20 or 10^-40 seconds.

This exact mechanism is how Hawking Radiation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation) works. Stephen Hawking worked out how these quantum fluctuations, if they happen close to the event horizon of a black hole, can result in one of the two particles getting sucked into the black hole while the other escapes. This results in the black hole slowly losing mass over time.

So the other mechanism to forming a Boltzmann Brain in completely empty space would be through quantum fluctuations creating enough particles out of empty space.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

but like what would it randomly create itself out of?

Something is a statistical probability of nothing, as it turns out. We don't know and we can't know, what nothing is. Just try. It doesn't work. Next job interview, pull a Schulz.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Actually, you could go far with that approach these days. Bad example.

[bcbrown]

Something is a statistical probability of nothing, as it turns out.

Succinctly put!

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Two possible ways. The first is out of ordinary matter the same as what we are made of. Just a bunch of atoms sloshing around in space and at some point, however unlikely it may be, they all slosh around in just the right way to create the physical structure of a brain.

The second way is through quantum fluctuations. Quantum mechanics, an addition to being famously incomprehensible, is famously counterintuitive. There's a phenomenon called quantum tunneling where a particle can go from point A to point B without ever being in between. Imagine a mug full of coffee sitting on a table. Quantum tunneling would be like if the coffee could somehow travel from inside the mug to outside, on the table. Over time the mug could gradually empty out, not from evaporation, but from "leaking" out through the impermeable sides of the mug.

Perhaps even more counterintuitively, even in a completely empty vacuum, particles are constantly being created and destroyed. We all know about the law of conservation of matter: matter can't just be created out of nothing. But imagine that this law was enforced by a policeman who doesn't have eyes in the back of his head. You can create particles out of nothing when he's not watching as long as you destroy them before he turns around to look at you. You can have, for example, an electron and a positron created out of nothing that fly apart and then come back together to annihilate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annihilation) each other. The time scale where this can happen is something like 10^-20 or 10^-40 seconds.

This exact mechanism is how Hawking Radiation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation) works. Stephen Hawking worked out how these quantum fluctuations, if they happen close to the event horizon of a black hole, can result in one of the two particles getting sucked into the black hole while the other escapes. This results in the black hole slowly losing mass over time.

So the other mechanism to forming a Boltzmann Brain in completely empty space would be through quantum fluctuations creating enough particles out of empty space.

But you realize, the implication really is that all those laws you cited are part of this insta-brain. You say "enough particles." That assumes that some remnant of what we instantly phase into existence corresponds to non-instantaneous brain and/or some other substance.

This is why Boltzmann went nuts. Everything you mentioned, assumes the reality of what could more efficiently, be a transient hallucination of nothing.

[shovelquest]

Funny how all these bright ideas come from people who go nuts...

[Jimjam]

Universe is just an equation resolving itself. Whether for real or as part of a simulation isn’t really relevant as rightly pointed out by C.

[bcbrown]

But you realize, the implication really is that all those laws you cited are part of this insta-brain. You say "enough particles." That assumes that some remnant of what we instantly phase into existence corresponds to non-instantaneous brain and/or some other substance.

This is why Boltzmann went nuts. Everything you mentioned, assumes the reality of what could more efficiently, be a transient hallucination of nothing.

I'll be honest, I have no idea what you're talking about.

[|tda| fatal]

where did they post anything about a new "gold" server anywhere?

[Reiwa]

All you enlightened devils are going straight to Hell.

[shovelquest]

where did they post anything about a new "gold" server anywhere?

This is like hawk tui coin all over again :(

[Ekco]

Funny how all these bright ideas come from people who go nuts...

They say no great mind has ever existed without a touch of madness. I'm starting to think they're wrong. I know a lot of sane people who are incredibly stupid. Maybe it's the lack of madness that's holding them back.

[Cecily]

A 130 int person talking to an average int person is like an 100 int player talking to a 70 int person. I think a lot of trouble I've had in life is just how stupid average is.

[Cecily]

I fucked that formatting up a lil. Hopefully that's intelligible.

[Duik]

70 int will do that.

[Cecily]

Dude I wish

[Reiwa]

They say no great mind has ever existed without a touch of madness. I'm starting to think they're wrong. I know a lot of sane people who are incredibly stupid. Maybe it's the lack of madness that's holding them back.

If malady results in superior wisdom, maybe you should boof some bleach and report back.

Don't though.

[Ekco]

If malady results in superior wisdom, maybe you should boof some bleach and report back.

Don't though.

If you get the message, hang up the phone. For psychedelic drugs are simply instruments, like microscopes, telescopes, and telephones.

not like you can find good double stacked mitsubishi pills anymore anyway.

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/g7ZvyKe.jpeg

OwXoPOdGn8k

meh.

[shovelquest]

They say no great mind has ever existed without a touch of madness. I'm starting to think they're wrong. I know a lot of sane people who are incredibly stupid. Maybe it's the lack of madness that's holding them back.

I mean when we started doing cancel culture comedy became literally the same shit the priest says at church like same entertainment value and everything.

[Ekco]

I mean when we started doing cancel culture comedy became literally the same shit the priest says at church like same entertainment value and everything.

comedy was kinda always 75% Jay Leno / Seinfeld don't rock the boat or make people think shit and 25% (and that's being pretty generous right), is an attempt at an actual art form.

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[Infectious]

A 130 int person talking to an average int person is like an 100 int player talking to a 70 int person. I think a lot of trouble I've had in life is just how stupid average is.

Talking about intelligence, while being confused about one's own gender. Lol

[Cecily]

Talking about intelligence, while being confused about one's own gender. Lol
I don't think those ideas work together to make point at all, but it sure sounds mean! It's a good example of what I was trying to say with that post: communicating with average intellect people as a decently smart person is mentally challenging.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

comedy was kinda always 75% Jay Leno / Seinfeld don't rock the boat or make people think shit and 25% (and that's being pretty generous right), is an attempt at an actual art form.

6G4UmCMPwrg


You always can find the good stuff if you poke around. It's the silver lining of the internet age. If you know how to look, it's not bad at all. Same will be true with AI.

The US has always been best at doing subcultures. The mainstream culture isn't bad, it's just pretty sterile and only rarely has let the grit in.

They filmed Elvis from the hips up in the 50's. That poor boy was split in half.

Other cultures have great main cultures. Like Italy.

Other cultures have both and it's best to stay away, like Berlin. Berlin is what did Freddie in.

[Ekco]

i hate both sides of the culture war, it's just two bioconservative tribes fighting over who controls social and political change within the existing human condition.

fuck the human condition and these meatbags.
https://i.imgur.com/n1P1vIL.jpeg

[Ekco]

Same will be true with AI.


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[Reiwa]

I don't think those ideas work together to make point at all, but it sure sounds mean! It's a good example of what I was trying to say with that post: communicating with average intellect people as a decently smart person is mentally challenging.

I wonder who taught him to hate those he considers lesser than himself. :p

[Ekco]

I wonder who taught him to hate those he considers lesser than himself. :p

pattern recognition, can't be oppressed if your the oppressors first and the oppressed will always be resentful they didn't become the oppressor first

some real game theory 101 prisoner dilemma shit

[shovelquest]

comedy was kinda always 75% Jay Leno / Seinfeld don't rock the boat or make people think shit and 25% (and that's being pretty generous right), is an attempt at an actual art form.

You may as well say "2020s comedy isn't as good as 2040's comedy because James Corbin / Big Bang Theory didn't rock the boat or make people think"

George Carlin and Johny Carson rocked the boat and made people think.

Eddy Murphy Raw is literally as funny and as anything Dave Chappelle or LCK has ever done.

It's fucking so stupid to be like, LCK is the king of comedy. Fuck that, he is the king of comedy of THIS generation, and he's an old fat greedy loser for the next.

[shovelquest]

We had music that was about something.

Now literally it's punk rock to be young and wear crocks and be a K-pop star.

[shovelquest]

You literally _cannot_ be cool anymore.

There is no such thing as any subculture that is actually "cool".

The coolest subculture is about listening to music from a guy who's dating a kardashian.

The most cutting edge rock musician has music in car commercials and Disney movies.

To be "anti establishment" you have to like billionaires and republicans.

It's a pathetic time to be alive if you like creative shit.

[Ekco]

George Carlin was literally the Seinfield of his day pre acid and the WBAI incident over the 7 words. dude just jumped on a trend that was already in motion so he wouldn't have to wear a suit and tie at work anymore.

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and even this act (cause he had a partner at the time Burns and Carlin) was a rip off of all the other duo acts prior.

why he ended up being the poster boy for nihilism for 25 years at the end of his career.

comedians that don't suck shit can fit in a VW bug and you already named 3 of them.

[shovelquest]

why he ended up being the poster boy for nihilism for 25 years at the end of his career.

I totally disagree with this gen Z take on comedy.

I was there. It took carlin 30 years of developing a character that hadn't been on the comedy scene before.

He came from classic educated comedy (writers that went to harvard and yale that wrote funny limierks and joke lotr books because edgy humor was SO FUCKING FRESH back then that it hadn't even been done before).

You're totally wrong on this take.

comedians that don't suck shit can fit in a VW bug and you already named 3 of them.

That's only if you are holding them all to modern standards.

It's the same as saying special effects in the 1980s sucked because they didn't use computers.

Or Artists today are bad because they didn't know how to use AI.

You're just being a victim of generational brainwashing here.

Next thing you know youll be like, "crocks and DEI are punk rock because punk rock has always been about inclucivity."

[Ekco]

We had music that was about something.


Steely Dan is the only good boomer band. and like the Wall album i guess, that's it.

[Ekco]

you're projecting a bunch of zoomer hate on a 38 year old.

>James Corbin / Big Bang Theory
fucking hate both.

>It's the same as saying special effects in the 1980s sucked because they didn't use computers.
i hate cgi and basically anything made in the last 25 years. practical effects are good.

bladerunner and dune from the 80s are better than the new ones.

i have a 1965 Michael Caine movie playing on my other monitor.

[Ekco]

poor man's bond, best bond.

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[shovelquest]

Steely Dan is the only good boomer band. and like the Wall album i guess, that's it.

Boomers:

Started listening to jazz & blues music (first punk rock of the western world).

Invented Rock & Roll by mashing up jazz, country, and the blues.

Invented Electronic music and Disco.

Invented Rap Music.

Gen X and beyond:

Limp Biskit.

Mumble rap.

Differnt BPM electro.

There hasn't been a new genera of music for the last 3 "generations".

That's another sign that creativly we suck now.

[shovelquest]

poor man's bond, best bond.

Imagine 80 years later and the best you can come up with is james bond part 17: Female bond.

[Ekco]

Boomers:
Invented Electronic music and Disco.


i forgot about Kraftwerk, that's 3 then.

[shovelquest]

Yeah, anything techno, is just electro with different BPM.

Not a single genera of music has been created since the 1980s at the latest.

[shovelquest]

If modern generations weren't total trash, they'd come up with a new genera of music with AI tools.

But they are such trash they want to make fan music on youtube of their old favorite bands and AI threatens that.

[Ekco]

If modern generations weren't total trash, they'd come up with a new genera of music with AI tools.


last song i posted in the song thread is a AI beat, it's semi competent at emulating styles but like that entire youtube channel is misses with 1 decent beat

so it's the exception that proves the rule until they improve it, which is kinda funny considering its just math basically or w/e idk i don't know much about music theory but AI still hallucinates when dealing with basic math problems sometimes so i assume it's connected.

[shovelquest]

Yeah, a good creative person would fiugre out how to isolate sounds with AI that have never been heard, and come up with a new genera of music.

I always chalked no new generas of music, to no new musica insterments.

Electro came from the computer, rock came from the guitar. Though it took 500 years for rock to come about after the first guitar.. at least it required that thing to make it work.

Maybe in 3000 we'll have another renisaunce again.

Maybe they only happen like every 500 years, and for 400 years we just kill each other.

Calling it like it is though: We're post renisaunce 1, and entering another age of revolutions (like the ones that followed renisaunce 1).

[shovelquest]

*(post renisaunce 2, the 1500-1600s were the 1.)

[Cecily]

I mean think of what goes into making a new genre. You have to invent something extremely novel. It has to be agreeably good to a large audience, ideally with those people creating their own subculture. And you need other people want to produce it, too. That's 3 really hard things to make happen. Kinda amazing that it happens at all.

[shovelquest]

I mean think of what goes into making a new genre. You have to invent something extremely novel. It has to be agreeably good to a large audience, ideally with those people creating their own subculture. And you need other people want to produce it, too. That's 3 really hard things to make happen. Kinda amazing that it happens at all.

Yeah sure, but that doesnt change that since 1900 we had:

Ragtime
Blues
Jazz
Rock
Country
Heavy Metal
Electro
Punk
Rap
Reggae

The list goes ON AND ON for entire genera's of music for the last 100 years, but the last 25, literally nothing but adding mumble in front of one of those above words.

Every single sub culture used to have it's own "genera" of music that it invented along with it.

[Ekco]

it will prolly come from some uncontacted amazon tribe or something, being the only group unpolluted by derivative works all the way down instead of turtles.

you could speed up this process by simulat......

god dammit we're in the matrix

[shovelquest]

"New" sound, used to matter.

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[Jimjam]

I quite enjoyed nu-rave for the brief year or two that was a thing.

[shovelquest]

I like alt country but it aint a genera. It's just country made by city folk.

[Duik]

We need Holl Rock.

Decimalized Musical Stave. The decative. Two new notes. Wo and Bo.

Also, like eveyrhing EQ it has all been done. The 12 tones of the chromatic with the varying chords/dischords can only make a certain number of sounds/combos. It took a few years and even a few plagerists tried to use the 3rd oboe part of a Mozart symphony as a hook for a new rock song.

We need Holl Rock. Or the 42 note scale revisited.

[Cecily]

What we need more of is new forms of entertainment. We are already drowning in options to distract us from reality. Ever consider what it would like to be an author? Imagine your book versus every other book in the store. Same thing with music. Same thing with video games. Especially once Steam let anyone publish, there's no shortage of video games to play. Or look on itch.io for the library of indie games. Or remember Kongregate with tens of thousands of free flash games? Or every game system ever with stuff you can still play with an emulator.

The soul of everything is already ground down to a flavorless grey paste and it'll get real obvious when AI gets better at whatever art is and instantaneously creates whatever passes for quality entertainment on a whim. Is it still entertaining at that point? I can't decide. One must imagine Homer happy.


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[shovelquest]

What we need more of is new forms of entertainment. We are already drowning in options to distract us from reality. Ever consider what it would like to be an author? Imagine your book versus every other book in the store. Same thing with music. Same thing with video games. Especially once Steam let anyone publish, there's no shortage of video games to play. Or look on itch.io for the library of indie games. Or remember Kongregate with tens of thousands of free flash games? Or every game system ever with stuff you can still play with an emulator.

The soul of everything is already ground down to a flavorless grey paste and it'll get real obvious when AI gets better at whatever art is and instantaneously creates whatever passes for quality entertainment on a whim. Is it still entertaining at that point? I can't decide. One must imagine Homer happy.


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I am genuenlly concerned abou tthis.

1. I think that the internet conditioned the last 25 years to see the value, and importance of making something "broadly appealing"

Meaning, if you make something that the zietguist loves, you make billions in merchandising.

If oyu make something that a sub culture loves, you make a decent profit from that "niche" group.

The problem IMO is that niche groups, have been eradicated and replaced with zeitguiests.

Every streamer plays the same games.

Every gamer plays the same games.

Every indi game, is literally the same game....

Like nobody wants to do anything different anymore.

This clip from Wayne's world completely does not apply to modern creativity anymore. Everyone want's their little graphic novel to be optioned as a movie, and a TV series, and 30 video games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpkecYVRt_E&t=40s (starts at 40- seconds)

"Led Zeplin didn't make music that everybody likes, they left that up to the Beatles"

HpkecYVRt_E

I appreciate Monsters & Memories for trying to appeal to a very small sect of EQ style gamers. I hope they lean into it and make it repulsive to modern gamers. But I bet it will be some kind of "easy to play, with hard core roots" like every fucking thing else in the god damn world trying to hit a million users day 1.

[shovelquest]

Ironically waynes world is completely designed itself to be broadly appealing and was one of the first to discover this life hack. Smfh.

[shovelquest]

idfk what im talkn about we're in the homer hell though Cecily.

[Ekco]

I appreciate Monsters & Memories for trying to appeal to a very small sect of EQ style gamers.

i've already given up on MMOs even ones that look promising like M&M

i'm focusing on shit like NetHack and playing Dungeon Crawl Classics by myself with a chatbot.

can't find 5 people to play BECMI Castle Amber module i got off ebay or the retro clones of it like DCC

so fuck it.
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[briefs]

Boomers:

Started listening to jazz & blues music (first punk rock of the western world).

Invented Rock & Roll by mashing up jazz, country, and the blues.

Invented Electronic music and Disco.

Invented Rap Music.

Gen X and beyond:

Limp Biskit.

Mumble rap.

Differnt BPM electro.

There hasn't been a new genera of music for the last 3 "generations".

That's another sign that creativly we suck now.

Not only music, but creativity in movies. Everything seems to be a re-release or a remake, or a marvel movie (not a diss I like them).

[shovelquest]

Not only music, but creativity in movies. Everything seems to be a re-release or a remake, or a marvel movie (not a diss I like them).

They just made a sequel to Beetlejuice and the wizard of Oz. Lmao they didn't even try to bring the 12 other novels from that series to life before some punk is like I'll write my own wizard of Oz fan art and society just eats it up.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

>It's the same as saying special effects in the 1980s sucked because they didn't use computers.
i hate cgi and basically anything made in the last 25 years. practical effects are good.

bladerunner and dune from the 80s are better than the new ones.



Or remember The Thing from like early 1980’s? Those effects were freaky as hell. Upside-down-human-head-crawling-spider stuff

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Not only music, but creativity in movies. Everything seems to be a re-release or a remake, or a marvel movie (not a diss I like them).

Nostalgia is a powerful, effective, marketing tactic. A new concept runs the risk of having no fans, and therefore no turnout. An established IP has a built in fan base. Some of those fans are die hard enough to go watch whatever slop remake was just made

In Greek, "nostalgia" translates to "the pain from an old wound," meaning the word captures the bittersweet feeling of longing for the past, often accompanied by a sense of ache or sadness associated with memories of a time gone by

- It’s that ache to have those experiences again that makes nostalgia so powerful a marketing draw

[Duik]

Mansplaining the very reason P1999 works.
Pain from an old wound makes sense in a P1999 world.
Thanks for the greek translation mr geek. Love new/old word stuff.

[Duik]

Etymology. Damn RnF no edit!

[shovelquest]

Imagine having nostalgia for tiktok dances and eating tide pods.

I swear I can't wait for 20 years from now only because I know it will be so horrible everyone will hate it and I can laugh at them.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Imagine having nostalgia for tiktok dances and eating tide pods.

I swear I can't wait for 20 years from now only because I know it will be so horrible everyone will hate it and I can laugh at them.

Lol

Well I do wonder what will be nostalgic to this newest generation of kids and feel bad that there has been such a void of good original content for so long….as all these crappy writers flounder before AI can save them

Although I don’t know if quality is necessarily a prerequisite for nostalgic feelings. For myself, if it’s been long enough and I am in a particular mood when I hear the theme songs to either Willow or The Secret of NIMH I can almost get choked up like a little bitch. And neither of those are super critically acclaimed; Willow is a bit of a dollar-store LOTR. But because I was older when LOTR was out it doesn’t hit me in the feels like the stuff from my early childhood does. Although LOTR probably would for like my younger cousin, who ended up seeing the first one in theaters 10+ times alone…like the loser nerd that he is

Oh and I don’t watch tik tok but I was just telling a co-worker yknow who had some amateur comedic talent was some of those kids making Vines. I remember back in the day enjoying seeing The Best Vines of [x] Year compilations. Who woulda thought those little bastards could make like a 7 second clip funny. Haven’t really been impressed with any of the Tik Toks my younger family members send me :/

[shovelquest]

I don't see why we can't have two dark ages :o

I really think the next like 400 years are going to be rough.

[Ekco]

I don't see why we can't have two dark ages :o


in the future people will say we're in a neo dark age right now, and it started with whatever iphone moved the most normies into web 2.0 i honestly forget, guess the 3g one idk 2008 2009 maybe

[Ekco]

whatever the moment was where people went "wtf is this blackberry thing" to thinking Steve Jobs is Jesus 2.0

[shovelquest]

imNtSPM3-r4

[Ekco]

f4HQylbjmjk

written in 19 fucking 30. lol.

[shovelquest]

written in 19 fucking 30. lol.

Speaking of old books this one cracks me up and really makes me question reality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Trump_novels

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[Ekco]

They remained obscure until 2017, when they received media attention for perceived similarities between their protagonist and U.S. President Donald Trump.

lol.

[shovelquest]

I like this optimistic take on dystopia. This is like best case scenario IMO

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[Ekco]

will watch that, can always use another Ready Player One movie.

i'm pro a real dystopia like in Neuromancer though for selfish reasons like i think i can thrive in a system that fucked up while most of my competition above and below me on the bell curve will have their brains melt

https://i.imgur.com/WqWlfVy.png
The neon dead, the holograms inert, waiting, under the poisoned silver sky.

[shovelquest]

I really liked the westworld HBO series, the dystopia they lived in was pretty blade runner neuromancer but with a bit of a more modern solar punk asthetic.

Season 3 was one of my favorite seasons of TV, it's great on its own if you know the pretex.

Season 2 and 4 are slow and boring, but 1 and 3 are super good. 3 is more of a weird blade runner mini series.

[Ekco]

yeah Westworld was dope, i stopped watching after the big reveal and the theme park no longer being the main location of the story.

i assume that's season 4 if not 3

[shovelquest]

Watch 3 as if it was a 1 season sci fi mini series. Skip 2. Don't plan on 4.

[|tda| fatal]

we are due for the green / blue server merge and the new server to open.

[wuanahto]

roll another gnome necro, pretend to be friends with people, steal from the guildbank, reroll iksar necro, get bored around level 40 as i branch out and use said guild funds to make 8 or 9 classes, start making accounts for various things for all the names to keep my identity a secret, steal from a few different guilds under the guise of friendship, get bored with another account filled with a buncha level 40/50 alts, stop playing for years and only come to the forums to vent and try and remember what human interaction is like

same shit for the past 15 years

[Wakanda]

Enchanter is my favorite class, but the raw ez mode potential of necromancer in classic is prob more appealing to me.

The first time around I was a Cleric and it sucked because you spend a lot of time LFG since no groups want an extra Cleric. You can't really solo much (I mean I solo'd some things, but nothing compared to a Necromancer). I like having the ability to log in and do something meaningful even if I can't get a group.

Also ... making plat on a Cleric was really rough. Like people offering me 100p to run across the planet to resurrect someone? My necromancer can kill all the guards in EFP or Misty Thicket in like 3 minutes and make more plat than that, lol.

Also Shamans are a good class, and even fun to play in Classic, but they aren't as badass as people think they are. That happens in Kunark really.

In classic my Shaman's pet wasn't really badass enough to tank mobs in most dungeons, and you OOM fast casting your DoTs. Meanwhile Magicians, Necromancers, and Enchanters plow through the same content relatively easy.

Like it's common to see Shamans die in LGUK, even on P99 Blue in 2025 (I just pulled one corpse lol). Even my Cleric had an easier time down there than my Shaman because he at least had Lull and IVU.

So yeah, not doing cleric/shaman this time around, unless it's just an alt and for fun. I would much rather main something that has real potency outside of group situations.

[Wakanda]

Also not to get people mad at me, but I might twink a Rogue. I remember in the early days of P99 Green some of the WORST Rogues and SKs I've ever played with, I mean people I actually silently blacklisted from my groups were getting into the top guild (whose name I wont mention), simply because there was a huge shortage of them.

I'm not a rager either btw, I've almost never got into a fight with other players in game, but there was a couple of Rogues who were so bad that I just didnt want to group with them anymore. Like using that SBD that casts engulfing darkness on targets that we are trying to CC, naturally drawing all the aggro, causing me to go OOM as a Cleric.

Same Rogue waited like 2 hours to show up in Sol B... he was in WC and said he couldn't come to Sol B until he got a teleport to Lavastorm, so we waited forever. Like dude it's a 4 minute run... please. So then he gets there, and straight up refuses to pull and makes me pull as a Cleric instead, lol. His name was Frontal. He was a dwarf. After that I was just like nah, I'm not playing with this dude anymore. Was the same rogue using the SBD to break mez and pull aggro on all the mobs and causing us to almost wipe because healers are constantly OOM trying to keep him alive.

Meanwhile he gets invited to the top guild while my friends playing more common classes got rejected by the same guild.

Then there was this SK, who like, straight up would try to pull lizards to the top of the pyramid in CT. He would somehow accidentally pull like 30+ lizards, then feign death on top of the group and let us all die. Which honestly, mistakes happen, that's one thing, but he would literally somehow start typing in group about how it's our fault that we're wiping ... as we're wiping, as he lays on the ground doing nothing. Like how is it our fault somehow that you just trained the F out of us and then FD'd us.

Like if he said nothing, I wouldnt have cared that much, especially the first time, but the second time it happened in like 30 minutes, I was just like nah, Im not grouping with this dude, this is terrible experience and frustrating. Flash forward two weeks later and he is also in the top guild on the server.

That's why I tell people... like being in the best guild on EQ doesn't mean a whole lot about your skill level lol.

[Jimjam]

Also ... making plat on a Cleric was really rough. Like people offering me 100p to run across the planet to resurrect someone? My necromancer can kill all the guards in EFP or Misty Thicket in like 3 minutes and make more plat than that, lol.


Port in -50pp
Throw in a pity symbol -10pp
Port out -50pp
35 mins travelling
10 more mins waiting for help to get to or the corpse to be put in the agreed place
15 mins recovering mana
Donation received up to 100pp

Profit rate -10pp per hour.

[Ekco]

That's some crazy stories about those rogues and SKs! I'm still laughing about Frontal and his 4-minute run drama. But for real, being in a top guild doesn't necessarily mean you're good. Skill level is one thing, but teamwork and game sense are just as important. If you do end up twinking a rogue, just don't be that guy, okay?

[cd288]

Enchanter is my favorite class, but the raw ez mode potential of necromancer in classic is prob more appealing to me.

The first time around I was a Cleric and it sucked because you spend a lot of time LFG since no groups want an extra Cleric. You can't really solo much (I mean I solo'd some things, but nothing compared to a Necromancer). I like having the ability to log in and do something meaningful even if I can't get a group.

Also ... making plat on a Cleric was really rough. Like people offering me 100p to run across the planet to resurrect someone? My necromancer can kill all the guards in EFP or Misty Thicket in like 3 minutes and make more plat than that, lol.

Also Shamans are a good class, and even fun to play in Classic, but they aren't as badass as people think they are. That happens in Kunark really.

In classic my Shaman's pet wasn't really badass enough to tank mobs in most dungeons, and you OOM fast casting your DoTs. Meanwhile Magicians, Necromancers, and Enchanters plow through the same content relatively easy.

Like it's common to see Shamans die in LGUK, even on P99 Blue in 2025 (I just pulled one corpse lol). Even my Cleric had an easier time down there than my Shaman because he at least had Lull and IVU.

So yeah, not doing cleric/shaman this time around, unless it's just an alt and for fun. I would much rather main something that has real potency outside of group situations.

I think I am going to roll a Shaman on next iteration of a fresh P99 server. I've never really played one that significantly as a main so I'm saving that for the next server.

Never really played a Ranger either, but hybrids don't appeal to me that much.

[Lune]

EQ ranger is a long, arduous, tortuous journey of that ends only in buttfuckery, with like a gleam of hope at some point in Velious, followed by more buttfuckery as you watch monks become Gods

Rangers not even once

[dajudge]

Brad, my body is ready. Please drop the Gold server.

[Reiwa]

EQ ranger is a long, arduous, tortuous journey of that ends only in buttfuckery, with like a gleam of hope at some point in Velious, followed by more buttfuckery as you watch monks become Gods

Rangers not even once

Rangers apotheosize on the TAKPTLP timeline

[Reiwa]

Monks return to the sewer from which they came

[Wakanda]

Port in -50pp
Throw in a pity symbol -10pp
Port out -50pp
35 mins travelling
10 more mins waiting for help to get to or the corpse to be put in the agreed place
15 mins recovering mana
Donation received up to 100pp

Profit rate -10pp per hour.
It's worse than that. I remember one time I got all the way to Splitpaw (for some reason this is one of the scariest zones for me), only to find out that the people who wanted me to rez them didn't even have their corpses at the zone line, so I had to help pull. And it ended up turning into me having to rez 6 people. And I'm having to heal them as soon as I rez them to keep them from dying to low hp aggro. So I started a stopwatch and it took me about 10 minutes to meditate enough mana to rez just one person (no clarity, pre kunark etc.). And then the person doesn't even accept the rez because they were afk or whatever, so I just lost the mana. Over an hour of my life gone. I now just rez out of genuine kindness or if it's convenient / a friend. My days of journeying across the world in hopes of making plat from rez services is long over :D better off just swapping to a character that can solo and farming some plat real quick :eek: I always try to donate well for rezzes now after my experience, even if the person is using a clicky stick

[Wakanda]

I think I am going to roll a Shaman on next iteration of a fresh P99 server. I've never really played one that significantly as a main so I'm saving that for the next server.

Never really played a Ranger either, but hybrids don't appeal to me that much.

Good idea honestly. Shaman IMHO is the best healer in classic because they can solo great and can also join groups very easily if they want to :o hybrids is rough in classic because they still have that XP penalty. I remember trying to level an SK and in the time I would normally have hit level 50 on character, I had just hit level 30 on my SK (which is an extreme hell level for troll sk in classic). That was around the time period I quit playing on Green.

[loramin]

Shaman IMHO is the best healer in classic because they can solo great and can also join groups very easily if they want to

Clerics heal much better 1-59, and even at 60 they still heal significantly better vs a Shaman. On P99 Clerics can also solo-level very well, as long as they stick to undead (I soloed one at about the same speed as Loramin). And of course, Clerics are always wanted in groups.

Similarly, Druids can solo even faster, and can get groups ... but the Cleric will be much more in demand.

My point being, I really don't think Shaman shines as a class from 1-59. Cleric is (arguably) much stronger, with about Shaman solo-leveling speed, but better group desirability and healing ability. Likewise a Druid levels faster than either Cleric or Shaman, and is still somewhat wanted in groups.

IMHO the awesomeness of the Shaman class is really after you reach the top-end and get all the toys. Until then, I really don't think they're the best healing class.

[Naethyn]

I started server as iksar shaman and got to lv 55 until I had enough cash for a fungi and cof and then I started my warrior. Those quests are top tier here.

[Swish]

Clerics heal much better 1-59, and even at 60 they still heal significantly better vs a Shaman. On P99 Clerics can also solo-level very well, as long as they stick to undead (I soloed one at about the same speed as Loramin). And of course, Clerics are always wanted in groups.

Similarly, Druids can solo even faster, and can get groups ... but the Cleric will be much more in demand.

My point being, I really don't think Shaman shines as a class from 1-59. Cleric is (arguably) much stronger, with about Shaman solo-leveling speed, but better group desirability and healing ability. Likewise a Druid levels faster than either Cleric or Shaman, and is still somewhat wanted in groups.

IMHO the awesomeness of the Shaman class is really after you reach the top-end and get all the toys. Until then, I really don't think they're the best healing class.

I tend to prefer a shaman healer over a druid healer in a group personally if I can be picky :p

[shovelquest]

How much twinking does a solo cleric need tho?

[Viscere]

new guides structure.

P99 gold probably by this summer.

Rolling HIE paladin here, with a guise ofc

[loramin]

I tend to prefer a shaman healer over a druid healer in a group personally if I can be picky :p

Oh yeah, of the three healers they have the least group desirability ... but conversely, they also have the most soloability of the three.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

https://i.imgur.com/qKmGIty.jpeg

[shovelquest]

I tend to prefer a shaman healer over a druid healer in a group personally if I can be picky :p

When we have a druid healer, we are still looking for a healer.

The druid can pick them up when we finally get one though, which is nice.

[|tda| fatal]

Bump

[Shourty]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Golden_Flow

I was in the Air Force then and had to pee in a container for that program. we got a good laugh from the name .

[cd288]

Clerics heal much better 1-59, and even at 60 they still heal significantly better vs a Shaman. On P99 Clerics can also solo-level very well, as long as they stick to undead (I soloed one at about the same speed as Loramin). And of course, Clerics are always wanted in groups.

Similarly, Druids can solo even faster, and can get groups ... but the Cleric will be much more in demand.

My point being, I really don't think Shaman shines as a class from 1-59. Cleric is (arguably) much stronger, with about Shaman solo-leveling speed, but better group desirability and healing ability. Likewise a Druid levels faster than either Cleric or Shaman, and is still somewhat wanted in groups.

IMHO the awesomeness of the Shaman class is really after you reach the top-end and get all the toys. Until then, I really don't think they're the best healing class.

Until the later levels well the healing ability falls off compared to Cleric, I would rather have a Shaman over a Cleric as the healer since they can regenerate their mana and also provide really good utility that the Cleric can't.

IIRC things really fall off by around the mid-40s in terms of healing viability as a main healer, but until then there's not a massive difference (I main healed groups with zero issue until then on a Druid for instance). So I'd rather have the Shaman.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Has anyone fed the code into an AI yet?

Re-implenting endurance alters everything. No one ever talks about it, even though the damn bar is right there in the interface long after it was aborted like a babysitter's fetus.

That's an unpleasant image but that is exactly what they did to the game. They got the babysitter pregnant when they removed endurance.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Hold it. Wait. That kind of doesn't work. If the analogy is right, they got the babysitter pregnant when they included endurance.

But that means endurance is likely a criminal and certainly civil offense?

I think I blew this one badly.

Endurance is something something, and a bit more. Set loose the artificial intelligences and let it spring forth from the albeit tiny coffin that holds it!

[Ekco]

Has anyone fed the code into an AI yet?


AI said "42" and don't worry about it. only way to get actual classic is actually using the Trilogy client and that project, EQC died like 5 years ago

i'll eat my hat if they make endurance actually do anything here.

[Reiwa]

AI said "42" and don't worry about it. only way to get actual classic is actually using the Trilogy client and that project, EQC died like 5 years ago

i'll eat my hat if they make endurance actually do anything here.

TAKP has endurance working in some form, from examining the client.

It doesn't do much. Nobody has complained.

The penalty for being out is something weak like -20 str and -10 sta.

[Reiwa]

I might be confusing that with food too.

[Ekco]

TAKP has endurance working in some form, from examining the client.

It doesn't do much. Nobody has complained.

The penalty for being out is something weak like -20 str and -10 sta.

>TAKP
is the entire rest of that dogshit mac client fixed yet though? lol.

[Ekco]

Trilogy is the promised land, just nobody cares enough to work on it / nobody actually wants to play classic eq anyway.

Bs4OB3le-28

[shovelquest]

If i ever find a magic lamp Im going to wish some dictator takes over the world and forces everyone to play and enjoy the most classic everquest experience possible for 1000 years.

[shovelquest]

Bs4OB3le-28

Enjoying this video should be mandatory.

[Duik]

Enjoying this video should be mandatory.

Yep. It got me.
Thanks cunt.

[|tda| fatal]

bump, new gold 99 pls

[Gozuk]

https://heroesjourneyemu.com/

[Ekco]

I really enjoyed THJ, but it's the most "live" like of any of the emu servers except maybe Ezserver with how insanely powerful you are, it's for people who want to triple box without having to actually triple box with that multi-class system of theirs

most people here are looking for an actual classic experience

[onmove_broke]

What ever happened to this project? https://www.eqclassic.org/index.php

This was around way before P1999 was a thing but I guess it just never happend

[Ekco]

What ever happened to this project? https://www.eqclassic.org/index.php

This was around way before P1999 was a thing but I guess it just never happend

i used to be a moderator there so i'll let someone else answer that question rofl.

the short tl;dr is Drama though afaik. i got demoted/kicked and i'm pretty sure the only person on the internet who claimed "bro i was hacked" and it actually happened.

banned some kid and he hacked my youtube, framed me and uploaded this fuckin shit

https://www.youtube.com/@elindividuoeverquest

[onmove_broke]

i used to be a moderator there so i'll let someone else answer that question rofl.

the short tl;dr is Drama though afaik. i got demoted/kicked and i'm pretty sure the only person on the internet who claimed "bro i was hacked" and it actually happened.

banned some kid and he hacked my youtube, framed me and uploaded this fuckin shit

https://www.youtube.com/@elindividuoeverquest

The guy who ran it was a sperg though from what I remember. Would ban people for asking about a timeline. File it into the vaporware pile I suppose. Was a cool concept to bring back EQ the way it was on launch.

I remember I used to subscribe to PC magazine and seeing EQ there. I was on the fence but for some reason I bit the bullet and bought it. Wish I played more than once class but back then playing one class was a full time job.

[|tda| fatal]

why is no one talking about how they said they would merge green with blue when green hit its last patch in velious, "sometime after jan. 2024"

[Reiwa]

why is no one talking about how they said they would merge green with blue when green hit its last patch in velious, "sometime after jan. 2024"

After is the operative word here. If the next build isn't sufficiently different from the last, there's good reason to delay it.

Post more bug reports.

[Knuckle]

It's time for Half-Elf Shadowknights. Why can they be Paladins, and Warriors of Innoruuk, and not SK? It's time.

[Jimjam]

Half elf clerics, but agnostic cos they channel the spirit of independence.

[Jimjam]

Half elf clerics, but agnostic cos they channel the spirit of independence.

Ah this reminds me of the time where Magnetress and I went on an exhibition to discover the south bank of the great river in south karana. We were successful, and founded the half elf city where half elves could study clericing and wizardry without persecution. You may find some of our half elf wizard students who’ve become bandits.

[|tda| fatal]

gold 99 wru?

[Jimjam]

* that was meant to read West Karana.

[Duik]

I also hate rnf for no editing jimjam.

Half elf wizards you say. You and Magnet you say.

Of ypu two, who pray tell is the Elf...

[shovelquest]

What does ypu mean?

[Tann]

What does ypu mean?

You pretty urchins

[Ekco]

I also hate rnf for no editing jimjam.


i just want to know what someone did with edit that caused it to be turned off, cause i don't remember

[Reiwa]

so many names for the peepee server

Urine Our World now