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Ciderpress
07-10-2025, 02:55 PM
Jiu jitsu exists as a force equalizer. A 15 year old girl could submit the rock if she knows what she's doing (or at least put him to sleep).
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-10-2025, 03:03 PM
Jiu jitsu exists as a force equalizer. A 15 year old girl could submit the rock if she knows what she's doing (or at least put him to sleep).
Not necessarily. Joe Rogan addressed this when ego lifter douchebag Bradley Martin was acting like being 260lbs meant he could beat every boxer and BJJ person smaller than him
There was a proposed match between Bradley and Mighty Mouse (Demetrius Johnson) that I’m sure you heard about. It never happened but Joe Rogan had the right idea on how it would go
BJJ has a rule of no lifting a person and slamming them to the ground. This is also a huge force modifier when you have something like a 100lb weight difference like would exist in Bradley Vs DJ. Joe Rogan mentioned that if it was an “anything goes” sort of scenario that even as DJ was working on a submission, Bradley could lift his smaller body and “break him with the earth”. Possibly. It’s far from a guarantee but it is entirely possible
In a match with BJJ rules, however, Bradley would get destroyed and it wouldn’t even be close
Ciderpress
07-10-2025, 03:31 PM
Well true, but it's the least worst thing to learn, tradeoffs and all that. A gun or knife beats bjj too, but your odds still go up even in that scenario.
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-10-2025, 03:50 PM
Well true, but it's the least worst thing to learn, tradeoffs and all that. A gun or knife beats bjj too, but your odds still go up even in that scenario.
Oh yea for sure. Now more than ever I personally think anyone who is physically capable and willing to try to protect vulnerable people (like kids, women, elderly) in public should learn some basic BJJ
I just saw a recent video of some crazy homeless dude in NY who tried to abduct this 6yr old kid completely at random, and when his parents saw and said something he body slammed the kid he was carrying away to the ground
The dad and other people were able to catch up to the guy and pin him down for police to come. And that’s often what the scenario seems to be. Generally the people who are wigging out in public are often homeless, frail, not very healthy to where if you punch them too hard they might straight out die and then you’ll be defending yourself in court racking up hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees over it
Whereas BJJ allows someone to “stop” a problem person usually without the person taking too much damage. And especially also to hold them in place until police get there. I’ve seen and I’m sure you’ve seen a few vids of a Good Samaritan who knows BJJ holding someone in a hold waiting for pd in just that scenario
The caveat is that a person can still die from a hold like a guillotine a la that Daniel Penny case. So one would have to understand not to cut off blood flow to the brain for too long when employing a hold
Ciderpress
07-10-2025, 06:35 PM
Yeah the Penny thing was just dumb on his part, although he's still the good guy in that story and I'm 100% glad he was not convicted. Just full mount the dude and hold his wrists, unless there's a massive size imbalance that's usually plenty. Penny put him in some awkward rear choke and held it, he should have known better. But it's also a really dicey situation so who knows, at least the jury got it right.
F0rmsh1fter
07-10-2025, 06:47 PM
Jiu jitsu exists as a force equalizer. A 15 year old girl could submit the rock if she knows what she's doing (or at least put him to sleep).
Jujitsu is a joke lmao you can counter it by standing up or walking
Like with all other unarmed martial arts, it only works if your opponent is also using it and doesn’t know as much as you
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-10-2025, 06:56 PM
Yeah the Penny thing was just dumb on his part, although he's still the good guy in that story and I'm 100% glad he was not convicted. Just full mount the dude and hold his wrists, unless there's a massive size imbalance that's usually plenty. Penny put him in some awkward rear choke and held it, he should have known better. But it's also a really dicey situation so who knows, at least the jury got it right.
The few times I’ve been close to a fight my heart starts going super fast and I get really excited. I think that’s the case for most people unless fighting is their actual job, then I’m assuming it feels like any other “day at the office”
With that adrenaline going it’s easier to make a mistake and not notice the kind of damage you are doing
So yea I agree while it was a bit negligent to not let go of that choke sooner, this is a dude who had his life verbally threatened like everyone else on that train and was defending people and himself with his adrenaline going
And in fact if this happened on the regular, where as soon as someone starts wiggling out in public someone else comes up and chokes them out, we’d have a bit more of a polite society
I say a bit because things will only be so good when we continue to have the streets be our permanent insane asylums where we all have to watch people melt their fucking brains with hard drugs :(
Ciderpress
07-10-2025, 07:07 PM
Absolutely, shutting down all the asylums was a huge mistake. I have a cousin who is a full blown paranoid schizophrenic, and he just makes life hell for everyone he knows. He isn't homeless, he's lucky enough to still have both his parents alive and he just lives in their basement at the age of 44, but I can't even imagine what dealing with that is actually like.
I'm pro death penalty but I'm also pro the insanity defense. Some people really do just need to be in a padded room. High-minded politicians inflicting them on the rest of society is complete madness.
Ciderpress
07-10-2025, 07:09 PM
Jujitsu is a joke lmao you can counter it by standing up or walking
Like with all other unarmed martial arts, it only works if your opponent is also using it and doesn’t know as much as you
Lol what?
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-10-2025, 07:38 PM
Absolutely, shutting down all the asylums was a huge mistake. I have a cousin who is a full blown paranoid schizophrenic, and he just makes life hell for everyone he knows. He isn't homeless, he's lucky enough to still have both his parents alive and he just lives in their basement at the age of 44, but I can't even imagine what dealing with that is actually like.
I'm pro death penalty but I'm also pro the insanity defense. Some people really do just need to be in a padded room. High-minded politicians inflicting them on the rest of society is complete madness.
Yknow what’s interesting though when it comes to insane homeless people doing random attacks on strangers
Unless they are not quite as insane as they are making out, or if they are, there is a part of their brain that still understands the idea of picking a fight you think you can win, but for whatever reason they still tend to go for people that are smaller and weaker than them
I mean, technically for any of us, whether it’s a fight or especially a war time situation, you should always try to ONLY EVER go into a combat situation where you KNOW you have a significant advantage, especially when you are putting your very life on the line. When other’s lives are on the line, then all bets are off
But even super crazy homeless dudes tend to still choose to sucker punch little Asian women, or old frail 60yr old men. I have almost never in my life seen a video of a homeless psycho walking up and sucker punching a thugged out dude who’s like twice their size, no matter how crazy the homeless dude is
So, irregardless of how much you think it does (or in the case of some people here, think it doesn’t) help in a fight, being big and in shape is and always will be a deterrent. You just have to look like trouble, you don’t have to actually be trouble
I think the problem is so many dudes get big in order to have that as a deterrent, but it warps their mind and turns them into a bully, a tyrant. And sometimes they do end up getting humbled by someone much smaller, and that’s always glorious ;)
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-10-2025, 07:58 PM
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Ciderpress
07-10-2025, 10:24 PM
Yknow what’s interesting though when it comes to insane homeless people doing random attacks on strangers
Unless they are not quite as insane as they are making out, or if they are, there is a part of their brain that still understands the idea of picking a fight you think you can win, but for whatever reason they still tend to go for people that are smaller and weaker than them
I mean, technically for any of us, whether it’s a fight or especially a war time situation, you should always try to ONLY EVER go into a combat situation where you KNOW you have a significant advantage, especially when you are putting your very life on the line. When other’s lives are on the line, then all bets are off
But even super crazy homeless dudes tend to still choose to sucker punch little Asian women, or old frail 60yr old men. I have almost never in my life seen a video of a homeless psycho walking up and sucker punching a thugged out dude who’s like twice their size, no matter how crazy the homeless dude is
So, irregardless of how much you think it does (or in the case of some people here, think it doesn’t) help in a fight, being big and in shape is and always will be a deterrent. You just have to look like trouble, you don’t have to actually be trouble
I think the problem is so many dudes get big in order to have that as a deterrent, but it warps their mind and turns them into a bully, a tyrant. And sometimes they do end up getting humbled by someone much smaller, and that’s always glorious ;)
Totally, I agree with all of this. You do kind of wonder sometimes if they're as crazy as they seem or if they're just faking it to a degree, because there's a perverse incentive to do so. There are tons of cases of people pretending to be crazy in police interrogations in the anticipation of a lighter (or no) sentence.
Rational self interest is a powerful force that extends to almost everybody. Bath salts are still the exception to that rule haha, a dude on bath salts will try to chew the face off anybody, big or small. To a lesser extent synthetic marijuana too. People are kind of conditioned by pop culture to assume meth and heroin are the main things to watch out for, and they're both certainly mega destructive, but give me that over a bath salt junkie any day.
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-11-2025, 06:49 PM
Nailed it
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-12-2025, 01:59 AM
“I have the freedom to do whatever I want, always”
- the more of that you want, the more likely you end up a slave to a substance anyway
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-12-2025, 02:00 AM
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NopeNopeNopeNope
07-12-2025, 02:01 AM
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NopeNopeNopeNope
07-12-2025, 02:02 AM
Context matters. Especially don’t lead with “I’m going through a hard time, so…”
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-12-2025, 02:04 AM
Oh man when you come home with a first place ribbon
I don’t think I ever got one. Or if I did it was because there was only one other kid who did that activity and he was disabled
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-12-2025, 06:16 PM
Showing that even for all the grime and dark, there’s always some bright spots to humanity. Sometimes in the face of suffering and death people find some humanity
MMA fighter Jorge Masvidal HAAAAATED fighter Ben Askren, because Ben was clearly more intelligent and a tiny bit wittier (Masvidal can be witty too though, make no mistake). So in the lead up to their fight and doing the pre-fight interviews Ben often humiliated Masvidal in verbal sparring, calling him “dumb” and a “retard” repeatedly and generally having the upper hand in a battle of wits
Which meant that when Masvidal knocked Ben out with a knee, Masvidal hit him twice hard even though Ben was clearly unconscious. Which Masvidal was quite proud of and made no apologies for in interviews such as this famous one:
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/BxvXGkRpPHM
But even with that hatred the two men had for each other that never went away for years after their fight, it appears that Masvidal had a change of heart upon hearing that Ben died 4 times on the operating table during his double lung transplant
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-12-2025, 07:45 PM
Press (x) to shiv?
Ciderpress
07-12-2025, 07:57 PM
The askren thing is so sad. Eclipsed maybe only by how many retarded comments I've seen that go something like "He doesn't support universal healthcare, so I don't feel bad at all!!!!!".
World of ghouls.
F0rmsh1fter
07-13-2025, 05:37 AM
“I have the freedom to do whatever I want, always”
- the more of that you want, the more likely you end up a slave to a substance anyway
This is just asceticism idk why he’s being quoted like he’s a philosopher
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-13-2025, 08:01 AM
This is just asceticism idk why he’s being quoted like he’s a philosopher
Appreciate learning a new word, but I don’t think it applies like you think it does:
Asceticism: severe self-discipline and avoidance of all forms of indulgence, typically for religious reasons
Doesn’t apply as much to Kipchoge, he is a world record holding marathon runner, so his avoidance of indulgence is for the goal of becoming elite at what he is practicing. Nothing to do with religion
And that’s I assume what his message is. Avoiding SOME indulgences (not all, it’s not like the average person who adopts his attitude is going to stop putting sugar in their coffee, or stop ever turning on a single episode of a a tv show for the rest of their life), not only helps one to become better at reaching their goals, but it also prevents the risk of becoming a slave to those indulgences
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-13-2025, 08:11 AM
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Oh and in my quote I was mostly referring to homeless people, who have what they see as complete freedom: not having to worry about most laws like don’t litter, don’t loiter, don’t do hard drugs in public, etc. They also don’t have to worry about their diet. Or keeping their job. Or making sure to get their taxes done
Complete freedom right? Which usually results of becoming a slave to a hard drug, where every single aspect of their life revolves around it
F0rmsh1fter
07-13-2025, 08:35 AM
Appreciate learning a new word, but I don’t think it applies like you think it does:
Asceticism: severe self-discipline and avoidance of all forms of indulgence, typically for religious reasons
Doesn’t apply as much to Kipchoge, he is a world record holding marathon runner, so his avoidance of indulgence is for the goal of becoming elite at what he is practicing. Nothing to do with religion
And that’s I assume what his message is. Avoiding SOME indulgences (not all, it’s not like the average person who adopts his attitude is going to stop putting sugar in their coffee, or stop ever turning on a single episode of a a tv show for the rest of their life), not only helps one to become better at reaching their goals, but it also prevents the risk of becoming a slave to those indulgences
Asceticism has levels tbh. If you try to go full monastic from the jump you’ll fail miserably and get discouraged. It’s a gradual process. Slowly giving up worldly things over time, and before you know it, you’ve become a much better version of yourself
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-13-2025, 06:23 PM
This is why the only time I ever say “hi girl” to a girl at the gym
Is when I walk up bashfully but earnestly, put my hands behind my back and wink and say…
“Hi girl. GET THAT GODDAMN PHONE CAMERA OUT OF MY FACE! DID I GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO FUCKING FILM ME? DID I? DO YOUR ONLYFANS PORN AT HOME!”
Jk ;)
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-14-2025, 04:05 PM
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NopeNopeNopeNope
07-14-2025, 10:10 PM
Solid points from Patrick
Man, I remember that Khabib Vs Conor fight. As a huge Khabib fan, I had been telling people since his opening debut: this guy is trouble. This guy is big trouble. And they didn’t listen!!
There’s a video of an audience in Dagestan or somewhere in Russia watching the fight live and losing their shit, it’s cute
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-lPD4oxp9wk
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-15-2025, 05:29 AM
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Ciderpress
07-15-2025, 03:34 PM
I think Conor knew he was going to lose hence all the theatrics throwing the dolly and shit. I believe in an interview Khabib did give respect to Conor's left hand though which he hit him with twice, it just didn't take him out the way it did other people. Gaethje hit him a bunch too, but again it just didn't matter.
I'm looking forward to Islam VS JDM bigtime.
Swish
07-15-2025, 04:09 PM
Khabib probably trained at least twice as hard which goes further to intimidate your opponents than hurty words and melodrama.
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-15-2025, 10:42 PM
Khabib probably trained at least twice as hard which goes further to intimidate your opponents than hurty words and melodrama.
Oh yea for sure. Dude trained like an absolute machine. Also Conor was binge drinking and doing coke, partying, not taking the fight seriously. He showed up shitfaced drunk to the pre-fight interviews. Khabib has never had a sip of alcohol in his life
It wouldn’t have mattered, Conor would have lost decisively either way. But not taking it nearly as seriously as Khabib def didn’t help
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTWbMMZhK005oDlCFP_75KI8Hnf0rMam 3OAnQ&s
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-16-2025, 03:09 AM
When I was jogging the park tonight I didn’t notice a low hanging branch on a tree in front of the parking lot with all the cars facing it
It scraped me good on the head as I went under it. Would have cut me open if I didn’t have my hat +3 AC on. Did knock the hat off in front of all the parked cars, some on with people in them
So I looked back at the branch and thought:
https://i.imgflip.com/4j4eto.jpg
10ish mins later on my next lap around, stopped for a sec, grabbed it with both hands, did a loud “fuck you!” and snapped it off. Hucked it away. Assuming some of the people in parked cars 20 feet away saw
Now I won’t have to worry about it again for a while until it grows back
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-17-2025, 12:10 AM
NGL it feels pretty fucked up for a much older coach to encourage his bright eyed impressionable TEENAGE client to take PED’s
That voice change was nuts. I did not expect something that significant. And that’s permanent. Hope this is truly what she’s going to continue to want
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ycgMOjJPZX8
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-17-2025, 02:33 PM
I just assume it’s full of guns and ammo
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-19-2025, 07:29 PM
There’s a little one up my ass also
er, wait, that’s a planet of the apes doll
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-20-2025, 12:17 AM
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NopeNopeNopeNope
07-20-2025, 12:48 PM
What’s wrong is always available, and so is what’s right
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/_IoaTgOqqZI
NopeNopeNopeNope
07-21-2025, 07:46 PM
To be fair the last three times I’ve personally seen people recording themselves in gyms it’s been bro’s
But from talking to other people, apparently the elusive female video exhibitionist still exists ;)
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