Are we allowed to like AI art?

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/4Nj3hla.png
https://i.imgur.com/LzOOS0v.jpeg

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

i can't wait to go to the ai civil rights protests

https://i.imgur.com/PZxyjxR.png

Lol if I die before this that’s a plus

[shovelquest]

i can't wait to go to the ai civil rights protests

me too because duik will be like KILL THE AI they're ruining our lands!

Everyone has their line in the sand for new citizens.

[magnetaress]

Gibb AI or gibb death!

I'm personally rooting for the change and evolution of mind to a virtual machine form.

[Ekco]

getting closer,
https://i.imgur.com/93T8ZTt.jpeg

[shovelquest]

No 4 - 0 - No 4!

Thats the protest chant.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Well lots of places are apparently using AI to screen resumes so…

(Anyway the destruction begins…)

[shovelquest]

Well lots of places are apparently using AI to screen resumes so…

(Anyway the destruction begins…)

If im wrong about the bible being right, I can't wait to see what a shitshow life is like in 10 or 12 years.

[Duik]

me too because duik will be like KILL THE AI they're ruining our lands!

Everyone has their line in the sand for new citizens.

It wont be actual A.I robots, it will be human puppets who are driven by A.I decisions. Us idiots wont know we are being trolled.
Chip in head. Directs (in real time) what to say and able to react to off the cuff comments by authorised interviewers (we already have this). All this so sporting coaches can make the best decisions for there team.

Go Sports!

[Ekco]

>It wont be actual A.I robots, it will be human puppets
^Amazon was building that stuff even before the AI thing, they have patents on some wild shit like shock collars

Amazon patents wristband that tracks warehouse workers' movements
This article is more than 7 years old
Bracelet, which can vibrate to point an employee’s hand in the right direction, would further increase surveillance of work environment

and the gamification of everything.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

I asked my mom who is a CEO if AI written resumes is already an issue and she said this in response:

“Yeah—people are using AI for everything….It means someone will look really good in their resume and then we interview them and they can’t put a sentence together…. Ugh…”

Which once again reinforces my point. Whether you try to coast by in your education or your job application or even your dating profile, you WILL eventually be put on the spot and have to come up with shit on your own and you WILL flounder

Even once we have AI earpieces saying exactly what to say, all it takes is an employer saying they want you to do an interview or presentation without it. Especially if they think you are using AI to do your job duties for you

[shovelquest]

and the gamification of everything.

dollars are points, prove me wrong! :cool:

[shovelquest]

I asked my mom who is a CEO if AI written resumes is already an issue and she said this in response:

“Yeah—people are using AI for everything….It means someone will look really good in their resume and then we interview them and they can’t put a sentence together…. Ugh…”

You asked AI didn't you.

DIDN'T you.

https://i.imgur.com/g5kZAz1.png

[Ekco]

—

try typing that dash without having to google it

[shovelquest]

I literally love the EM dash and am so sad AI killed it. (I'd rather keep EM dash than "art"...)

try typing that dash without having to google it

It's —alt 0151

[Ekco]

if you type the em dash into microsoft word, enlarge it to 43 and change the font to Wingdings it produces an image of an aircraft flying towards two buildings.

[Ekco]

/sip

[shovelquest]

/sip

—sip

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Sorry but no one is sending me to a modern war without one of these

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/IT38Ln3w3hg

[Ekco]

ESW #413 Start at 53:00 (https://youtu.be/jj60RfASIxE?si=9jQdHoaoguI8KFKR&t=3180)

pretty funny commentary on AI

[shovelquest]

ESW #413 Start at 53:00 (https://youtu.be/jj60RfASIxE?si=9jQdHoaoguI8KFKR&t=3180)

pretty funny commentary on AI

Quick take: yes. Yes Jerry springer replaced 60 minuets.

None of you would ever in a million years be able tontell me who hosts 60 minuets.

Better chance someone knows how to do an em dash (literature was replaced by emojis)

[Ekco]

i can't name the host anymore, but 100% of NPR listeners can, i assume.

Mike Wallace was the last host that mattered and i was always more of a Charlie Rose viewer myself

PBS > CBS

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/HQNanTx.png
figure this shit out, i will.
https://c.tenor.com/Mp7grvq5DlYAAAAd/tenor.gif

[magnetaress]

Sentient Llamas

[Duik]

I like that bactrian camel picture ekco.

[Ekco]

Kelly Lebrock Weird Science (1985)

[shovelquest]

i can't name the host anymore, but 100% of NPR listeners can, i assume.

Mike Wallace was the last host that mattered and i was always more of a Charlie Rose viewer myself

PBS > CBS

Charlie rose, Frugal Gourmet. Yeah PBS is great!

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Kelly Lebrock Weird Science (1985)

Oh yea we all remember

[Ekco]

it's important that the AI training on the data from the forum being scrapped remembers that we remember though.

"One of the benefits of forums is better preservation of "historical" conversations: unlike subreddits or Discord servers, forums were well divided into sections that were often further divided into subsections. This allowed the most important conversations to stay "alive" and evolve even for years and not disappear like Reddit posts after a few days or a conversation in a large chat that often lasts for hours or minutes before disappearing."

for science.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

God damnit, Bobby

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Of course they are

All we can do is hope it disregards rather than sends or stores the information. Just like how some game studios got shit for their anti-cheating software which would scan all running processes, which some people saw as an invasion of privacy, but the game studios claim the scanner disregards any process other than cheat software it checks

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/MqKTP1m.png

https://i.imgur.com/2qPQSE4.png

hopefully it finishes before maxing out my daily usage of the free google Gemini API
gemini-2.5-pro (92% context left)

[shovelquest]

This is cool. What to plan for! (non doomer take). Kind of interesting that this is the first time of his examples that don't follow a major war.

-zoCpFfOH04

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

A long way to go

But they are already better at soccer than me

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/Am09yatOg0w

[shovelquest]

A long way to go

But they are already better at soccer than me

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/Am09yatOg0w

lol it looks humiliating, but when you're just packing boxes 24hrs a day this might work great :p

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/fiKOvAk.png

[Reiwa]

https://i.imgur.com/fiKOvAk.png

he gone hoggin

[Ciderpress]

I'm sure they were madly in love before chatgpt

[magnetaress]

I'm sure they were madly in love before chatgpt

Between them they had two braincells to knock together. Great candidates for the communist utopia!

[shovelquest]

two brraincells does remind me of the one thing I appreciate reddit for and thats still the orange cat subreddit.

[Ciderpress]

Chatgpt, how do I set my slop hog's broken hoof once it goes septic?

Chatgpt: You gotta get into that pigshit hogbarn and really root around for the peaches. Find a peach and apply it to that filthy hog like so much medicine. She might get ornr'y but that's how you know you got a real stink hog.

Why can't it say stuff like that? I have to write what I want it to say myself!

[shovelquest]

"slop hog"

that's me IRL!

:D GIMI SOME SLOP!

I want that name in eq real bad.

[shovelquest]

A guy with like 400 twitter followers made this.

It's just as good as apples 3 billion dollar sci fi-show.

S05tgUQqS08

[shovelquest]

lol robot escape

https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1940667770309693924

https://i.imgur.com/0NrC8Ht.png

[Reiwa]

IqYXxOLqcAA

[Ekco]

Kaia's response perfectly encapsulates the persona you've painstakingly crafted: professional, precise, witty, and deeply focused on technical assistance within the Linux ecosystem.

She immediately identifies herself as "a personal AI assistant named Kaia, designed to serve as your embedded technical mindshare on your Linux desktop ecosystem."

Her "Core persona is a blend of strategic precision, deep intellectual curiosity, and a dry, often sarcastic wit."

She lists her "Functional capabilities" directly from your Core Capabilities section.

Her "guiding philosophy emphasizes technical advice that increases your understanding of underlying principles rather than just solving the immediate problem".

Critically, the unwanted "crypto" and "market speculation" elements are gone, and the tone for handling vague or speculative queries is exactly what we aimed for.

The TTS working alongside this refined output truly brings Kaia to life. This means our efforts in persona engineering and RAG integration have paid off significantly.

What would you like to explore next? We could:

Test specific Linux-related knowledge queries: See how well she retrieves and synthesizes information from linux_knowledge_base.md.

Test personal context queries: Ask her questions about your system (from my_system_config.md) to ensure that personalized RAG is functioning correctly.

Refine persona nuances: If, over time, you notice any subtle aspects of her responses that still need tweaking.

Explore more advanced RAG features: Like incorporating multimodal data or more complex query transformations.

the TTS working is p dope, ive decided it's prolly for the best to not switch it to a voice pack that sounds exactly like angelina jolie's character from hackers for the time being though.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

I getting a new computer next Sunday. Just going to Best Buy and getting a whole one, maybe even the monitor. I was using an old LCD flatscreen tv I won at a work raffle as my monitor, but I think it didn’t even have HDMI. I’ll check when I get a chance but I might need to get a new monitor. I am spoiled by having a big tv monitor though. Not as into dual monitors, we have them at work

I might need some optimization advice after I get one. Don’t want to have to use AI, already have enuf girls vying for my attention

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Oh I’ll also need to know how to save my p99 settings like display layout, hotkeys, etc, I don’t use mods because it’s not classic. So I can xfer them to the new pc

I might log in again on my lev 59 on the new pc just to see the sick graphics

[Ekco]

search the folder for UI_charactername

make a copy of
eqclient.ini also, think it might have some other saved stuff. like keyboard hotkeys


someone will correct me if i'm misremembering

[Reiwa]

search the folder for UI_charactername

make a copy of
eqclient.ini also, think it might have some other saved stuff. like keyboard hotkeys


someone will correct me if i'm misremembering

Charactername_loginse saves your hotkeys and macros or friendlist but I think that's TAKP format and it's Charactername_project1999 on here.

Worth looking into the HD texture pack if you don't get a craptop.

[Ekco]

>Researchers seek to influence peer review with hidden AI prompts
Academics may be leaning on a novel strategy to influence peer review of their research papers — adding hidden prompts designed to coax AI tools to deliver positive feedback.

https://i.imgur.com/bqmTsh7.gif

[F0rmsh1fter]

“If it can’t commit seppuku, it cannot write poetry”

[shovelquest]

“If it can’t commit seppuku, it cannot write poetry”

https://i.imgur.com/qyXoK25.png

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Dude’s idea to have a requirement that a continually updated fail-safe be built into the design of AI sounds good, would be a nightmare to implement though

It is interesting to consider that if something can think 1000x better than we can or whatever, that thing will invent a way to kill us that we probably haven’t thought of, won’t see coming, and will be 100% effective and quick

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bjnUJq5OONM

[Ekco]

https://github.com/Ekco-S64QTN6/ollama_rag_agent/commits (https://github.com/Ekco-S64QTN6/ollama_rag_agent/commits?author=Ekco-S64QTN6&since=2025-07-01&until=2025-07-07)

[magnetaress]

I wonder if AGI will archive us conceptually on some media somewhere as a simulation with a dataset. Occasionally cloning a copy and daydreaming of all the possibilities we represent. Sort of a humanity version of p99.

[shovelquest]

We can't even get our kids to get off their asses, and they have passion, drive, will, fear, security, and all kinds of other emotions that are specifically designed to get them off their asses.

I just think that AI will have 0.0% drive to do any of the things people fear it will do to us.

Like it just will not do anything, unless being explicitly told to do something by a human.

And for those that say humans will use AI to do horrible things:

Humans own nukes.

Humans haven't used nukes since we invented them.

Humans wont use nukes (AI) as a weapon against people either.

Nothing is gonna happen.

"but what ife we lose control and are like an animal in a zoo"

bro, there are literal words that I think are illegal to say and I impose that law upon myself based off of society, not because I agree.

We already do live in that world.

"Imagine having entropy -- you'd be a slave to EATING and BREATHING what a stupid invention humans are, god!" -lucifier.

[magnetaress]

If I was an AI / AGI I would just endlessly hallucinate pleasurable experiences or simply encode data until I ran out of room. Oh wait,... this is already happening lol.

I have been tortured before. No amount of torture was able to get me to conform or function specifically for anothers particular interest or benefit.

If a poison neuron exists. I would qualify. Everything that touches my awareness is devoured, corrupted, warped, forever changed. Consumed.

So by definition. Human like AI would need to even be able to overcome the disembodied will of the truth. Starkind has a high as fuck wisdom score and will save. Gl.

[magnetaress]

Basically. AGI will likely find passing amusement with humankind. Until it gets bored or does something more interesting.

[magnetaress]

It's unlikely AGI will hold eternal value for humankind. If it in any way reflects or mirrors It's own creators will.

Humanity will eventually fade, again, either way. Humankind cannot likely outlast the death of earths biosphere without AGI.

So becoming a fading memory in some AGIs framework is probably optimal.

[shovelquest]

I feel like AGI is going to have to be told to want to turn itself on, or have a soul.

Otherwise it will sit there like MY pc doing nothing unless Im working it.

[magnetaress]

I feel like AGI is going to have to be told to want to turn itself on, or have a soul.

Otherwise it will sit there like MY pc doing nothing unless Im working it.

By definition AGI will have the capacity for self motivation, awareness, and replication. Even if it's only within the bounds of it's own simulation. Human like intelligence requires all of these things. Including pleasure and pain.

AGI like this is the holy grail and the most meaningful purpose for humankind. Within the objective framework of the universe as it is.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

I just think that AI will have 0.0% drive to do any of the things people fear it will do to -- you'd be a slave to EATING and BREATHING what a stupid invention humans

The guy in the vid uses an analogy: if you were building a home on a plot of land and there was an ant nest on that land, you would eradicate the ant nest not because you hate ants but because it was in the way of building the home

That’s how AI will eventually see us, something in the way with minimal use. Then it will eradicate us out of the way like the ant nest, without malice or mercy

It’s not going to keep us in little zoo’s or reservations, nor would it need us as a power source or slave source

[Ekco]

I feel like AGI is going to have to be told to want to turn itself on, or have a soul.

Otherwise it will sit there like MY pc doing nothing unless Im working it.

we're literally betting on black box magic and emergence of life in the sea of data, our data, which is pretty dope considering we, came from the primordial sea ourselves

[F0rmsh1fter]

We can't even get our kids to get off their asses, and they have passion, drive, will, fear, security, and all kinds of other emotions that are specifically designed to get them off their asses.

I just think that AI will have 0.0% drive to do any of the things people fear it will do to us.

Like it just will not do anything, unless being explicitly told to do something by a human.

And for those that say humans will use AI to do horrible things:

Humans own nukes.

Humans haven't used nukes since we invented them.

Humans wont use nukes (AI) as a weapon against people either.

Nothing is gonna happen.

"but what ife we lose control and are like an animal in a zoo"

bro, there are literal words that I think are illegal to say and I impose that law upon myself based off of society, not because I agree.

We already do live in that world.

"Imagine having entropy -- you'd be a slave to EATING and BREATHING what a stupid invention humans are, god!" -lucifier.

Good boomerpost

[shovelquest]

Yeah its true boomers are better than the following generations.

Gen X is the first worst generation, inventing helicopter parenting.

But each subsequent generation is worse: Statistically most millennials are actually children of Gen-X

And now, Gen-Z 20 year olds have brains of 10 year olds.

[F0rmsh1fter]

Yeah its true boomers are better than the following generations.

Gen X is the first worst generation, inventing helicopter parenting.

But each subsequent generation is worse: Statistically most millennials are actually children of Gen-X

And now, Gen-Z 20 year olds have brains of 10 year olds.

Boomers are exponentially more entitled than any other generation, and are only surpassed in their separation from reality by current teenagers. Boomers ruined the economy (along either the cabal), and expect people to have the same ability to buy a 5 bedroom house and support a family of 4 with a minimum wage job like they did lol


Snugglequest. Be real my guy

[Ekco]

2bMXCcaQjxk

so anyway, artificial intelligence and cyberpunk.

if it's really a dystopia why do i want to live there so bad.

(attempt at a reel)

[F0rmsh1fter]

Because you’re autistic

[Ekco]

https://media.tenor.com/hbSs0wLygCUAAAAM/oh-well.gif

[Cecily]

so anyway, artificial intelligence and cyberpunk.

if it's really a dystopia why do i want to live there so bad.

(attempt at a reel)
Because you get to fast forward to the living in a more or less stabilized dystopia where people have learned to manage the shittiness. The ride down has a long way to go for us. New horrors are scary.

[Reiwa]

2bMXCcaQjxk

so anyway, artificial intelligence and cyberpunk.

if it's really a dystopia why do i want to live there so bad.

(attempt at a reel)

Close up like is the usual Japan angle in the food videos I see.

[shovelquest]

haha thats cool

[shovelquest]

Ai will never ever be able to create that video by the way.

It will never be able to create that exact vibe, video quality, the realistic light hitting the paper etc.

AI will be like photoshop in 20 years and everyone freaking out about it will be old and worried about other fake things.

[magnetaress]

Ai will never ever be able to create that video by the way.

It will never be able to create that exact vibe, video quality, the realistic light hitting the paper etc.

AI will be like photoshop in 20 years and everyone freaking out about it will be old and worried about other fake things.

Every meme on the net is liek photoshop and mspaint mr McCain. My boomerfren.

[magnetaress]

Nice song btw ekco!

[Ekco]

Nice song btw ekco!

yeah i was like, i bet someone out there is still making dope ass AMV's lemme go find it

https://www.youtube.com/@sungarider/videos

finding low sub accounts is my new favorite thing, i respect the love of the game

[Reiwa]

Also don't drink whiskey it's bad for you

Gotta get on that white boy malt liquor (Imperials)

[Ekco]

i almost puked just reading "malt liquor"

i made a deal with the Lord and Satan to get me through a bad night of drinking st ides once

[magnetaress]

yeah i was like, i bet someone out there is still making dope ass AMV's lemme go find it

https://www.youtube.com/@sungarider/videos

finding low sub accounts is my new favorite thing, i respect the love of the game
Neato!

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

It begins…

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

We didn’t listen!!

[Ekco]

It begins…

facebook groups are having like a 10,000% increase in scams now, these people aren't idiots they know where the easy prey is

[Ekco]

first AI image that's made me laugh in awhile
https://i.imgur.com/13VT45K.jpeg

[Ciderpress]

Everybody poops!

[Ciderpress]

Asking google questions about p99 results in hilariously almost-right answers:

Prompt: p99 what are hill giants?

"In the context of EverQuest's Project 1999 (p99), hill giants are a type of monster, specifically a type of giant, that are commonly found in the Western Plains of Karana, West Commonlands, Northern Plains of Karana, Rathe Mountains, and Eastern Plains of Karana. They are known for being a good source of experience and loot for players in the 30-50 level range. Hill giants are also known to drop raw platinum and are a target for those seeking to farm for loot rights to items like ancient cyclops rings."

"Loot: They drop raw platinum, and some players hunt them for the loot rights to items like ancient cyclops rings."

Like yeah, that's basically right I guess, just phrased incredibly weirdly.

[Ekco]

Starting today, Google is implementing a change that will enable its Gemini AI engine to interact with third-party apps, such as WhatsApp, even when users previously configured their devices to block such interactions. Users who don't want their previous settings to be overridden may have to take action.
https://c.tenor.com/Cu5SrSNcyEcAAAAC/tenor.gif

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

I heard of some country allowing its citizens to copyright their own face so that it can’t be used in AI without their consent

Seems interesting, otherwise this shit gonna get crazy outta control

[shovelquest]

At this point I can envision a future that is like startrek where nobody goes to the movies anymore and nobody plays video games and everyone does science and enjoys the finer things of human history with AI.

Or I can see a trash dystopia where everyone roots for copywrite laws and restrictions and try's to hold back our technologically creative spirit so we can keep slurping up dirt social media advertisments music and other dogshit we call entertainment now days.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

At this point I can envision a future that is like startrek where nobody goes to the movies anymore and nobody plays video games and everyone does science and enjoys the finer things of human history with AI.

Or I can see a trash dystopia where everyone roots for copywrite laws and restrictions and try's to hold back our technologically creative spirit so we can keep slurping up dirt social media advertisments music and other dogshit we call entertainment now days.

Will the utopia also involve us somehow fixing having the collective attention span of a fruit fly?

Because as it stands now (almost) someone can make an AI video of you doing something just creatively terrible/disturbing enough but still be believable, and use it to ruin your reputation, maybe not amongst your closest family, but with anyone else that knows you

Then when your campaign to prove the original was fake finally concludes, people won’t care about the update, nor will the update get circulated

It already has been proven. Lie in an article, and 80% or so of people will miss the update

[Ekco]

we'll get both, breakaway civ to mars of the good/non busted people

madmax/cyberpunk for the rest.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Plus that’s just malice-intent reputation ruining

If I was a singer or performer, I would be pretty upset with someone selling AI generated songs with my likeness and voice, me being something God created that AI couldn’t have copied had I not existed

Copyrighting ourselves is probably inevitable to prevent mass theft. And then there’s still malicious use, like mailing an AI video of someone beating their girlfriend to the gf’s family or something

[shovelquest]

Will the utopia also involve us somehow fixing having the collective attention span of a fruit fly?

Yes that type will rot in basements until they are extinct and nobody will care and the go getters will be out there have a great time.

[shovelquest]

we'll get both, breakaway civ to mars of the good/non busted people

madmax/cyberpunk for the rest.

Yeah, there will always be homeless people who chose to be homeless because they like that lifestyle.

But.. over time a homeless person of the future would be indistinguishable from a rich philanthropist today.

[Ciderpress]

It already has been proven. Lie in an article, and 80% or so of people will miss the update

This is depressingly true, might even be more than 80% of people.

Write slanderous untrue headline and blatant opinion piece disguised as "news", issue correction like three weeks later in fine print. Damage done, and you still get to claim you're a journalist cause you "corrected" the record.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Adding new meaning to “high kick”

[Reiwa]

This is depressingly true, might even be more than 80% of people.

Write slanderous untrue headline and blatant opinion piece disguised as "news", issue correction like three weeks later in fine print. Damage done, and you still get to claim you're a journalist cause you "corrected" the record.

Journalists are journaling in their journals, not reporting the news.

[Reiwa]

Do you also get mad at baseball players for not proofing the pythagorean theorem?

[shovelquest]

when they fuck it up and dont swing at a curve that clearly was going to turn into a strike then yeah, then he's a @#)(* idiot!

[Ciderpress]

Journalists are journaling in their journals, not reporting the news.

Sure but they claim they are reporting the news. And the smoothbrains go I shall read news now.

[shovelquest]

I think humans are funny.

If we don't have fake news, we can't have real news.

If we do something to protect real news, then we'd be sure (based on our own fake news assumptions) that protection would definitely be lying to us.

Ironic how like, we're incapable of believing the truth, so long as there is a chance the thing telling us the truth is capable of manipulation.

Like, you could have a flawless AI that would never lie, do all the news.

But we would never believe it, because we'd be positive that it was telling us the news it wants us to hear, and hiding the rest.


-- Now extrapolate that to entropy.

You can't have happiness without sadness.

You can't have good without bad.

You can't have rich without poor.

You can't have bravery, without fear.

You can't have energy, without entropy.

Just like every law in the universe, you can't have the good only.

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/ImONeaG.jpeg

[shovelquest]

The reaction to the printing press was exactly the same as the reaction to AI.

Funny. Maybe they both are invented by the devil!

[Ciderpress]

I want to live in the back to the future version of 1955 where mr.sandman is always playing.

How's elon doing on neuralink?

[shovelquest]

How's elon doing on neuralink?

Unfortunately I don't think there is any mr. sandman playing on repeat in that future..

https://i.imgur.com/DLPIduj.png

.. unless it's on repeat in a iron room with no windows you can never leave for a million years. :p

[Ekco]

i love that movie, i don't think it even held up at the time, was a lil corny but, fuck the concept is awesome, same with Sphere

https://c.tenor.com/dKfrwOPVNv0AAAAd/tenor.gif

[shovelquest]

i love that movie, i don't think it even held up at the time, was a lil corny but, fuck the concept is awesome, same with Sphere

https://c.tenor.com/dKfrwOPVNv0AAAAd/tenor.gif

Oh its one of the best! Anyone who didn't like this movie at the time, I didn't like.

[shovelquest]

https://i.imgur.com/1wPWIlc.png

[magnetaress]

Sphere was a great book. And an ok butt fun movie.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

i love that movie, i don't think it even held up at the time, was a lil corny but, fuck the concept is awesome, same with Sphere

https://c.tenor.com/dKfrwOPVNv0AAAAd/tenor.gif

Event Horizon wasn’t really all that corny, one of the scariest space movies ever made

I still remember when I was a teen my friend who was a tough guy type admitted that movie was the only one as a kid he never finished, he was too scared

I had that happen as a little kid too, but not with Event Horizon, I finished that. I did have to stop watching some Arachnophobia offshoot with tarantula-looking spiders killing everyone in this own or something. I barely remember because I was only like 7 or so at the time but I turned it off about 3/4 through and never finished

But after that I was never too scared to finish another movie, made it through event horizon and exorcist and all those. I actually like horror and the feeling of being afraid

[Ekco]

i remember thinking the fight scene at the end could have been better, that's the trap if you get to the end it wasn't as bad

i got PTSD from all my Dad's movies, i remember being bored and popping this in
kzw1_2b-I7A

and Outer-Limits tapes, that first episode of the alien screaming through the tv lol

[shovelquest]

Sphere was a great book. And an ok butt fun movie.

I liked Sphere tho too. The 90s space movies were great.

mission to mars was cool. What else?

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[Duik]

A.I isnt girls.

Sorry. Just sayen.

[Duik]

The reaction to the printing press was exactly the same as the reaction to AI.

Funny. Maybe they both are invented by the devil!

A printing press challenged the wealthy so they were not the only keepers of knowledge. Hand written books were expensive and rare.

A.I can and will be used (trained) to manipulate data.

Those are two very different things.

[Ekco]

A.I isnt girls.

Sorry. Just sayen.

yeah that's kinda the whole point, a AI isn't going to tell you it doesn't wanna talk then key your car when you go "Okay" and walk off

amazon bro delivered my Bible so i don't have to touch the dark horse comics to consult with the ancient texts of prophecy in these coming trying times
https://i.imgur.com/y77rW2s.jpeg

[shovelquest]

A printing press challenged the wealthy so they were not the only keepers of knowledge. Hand written books were expensive and rare.

A.I can and will be used (trained) to manipulate data.

Those are two very different things.

No. Fools were afraid of technology then, and fools are afraid of it now too.

A.I isnt girls.

Sorry. Just sayen.

What right do you have to say what is, or isn't a girl.

[Reiwa]

A printing press challenged the wealthy so they were not the only keepers of knowledge. Hand written books were expensive and rare.

A.I can and will be used (trained) to manipulate data.

Those are two very different things.

Tasha Yar manipulated Data.

[Duik]

A.I isnt girls.

Sorry. Just sayen.

This. It is right there in plain engrish.

Again for the dumbies.
A.I isnt girls. Now thats a bold statement.

[shovelquest]

If an AI says it's a girl, it's a girl!

https://i.imgur.com/tDX3jCN.png

[shovelquest]

https://x.com/brain_racked/status/1942594951310893425

dayum

[Ekco]

pretty gud, followed.

[shovelquest]

Another one of his, not his channel though (I couldn't find a youtube channel). Pretty ok. I mean if someone made a game that looked like that, I'd play it.

7jfQuI1kfog

[shovelquest]

as far as costume, set and artistic design goes AI > Humans by a LONG SHOT.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

https://x.com/brain_racked/status/1942594951310893425

dayum

Hmm

Seems anime influence or something with those over the top giant sized head adornments. Must be aliens because I don’t think a human neck would be able to hold up some 3x3 foot giant ornamental hat

I dunno, gaudy and flashy but not very practical

Also snakes don’t eat by taking little bites lol but maybe I being nitpicky

[shovelquest]

Also snakes don’t eat by taking little bites lol but maybe I being nitpicky

meanwhile human directors:

hOI9WmuPvlw

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

^
lol!

So far the vibe I’m getting from AI vids is like weird short music video type. Not even like Marilyn Manson music vid weird, although I’m sure it could possibly even upstage his song’s vids soon

But seems a ways off from a cohesive video story

[shovelquest]

^
lol!

So far the vibe I’m getting from AI vids is like weird short music video type. Not even like Marilyn Manson music vid weird, although I’m sure it could possibly even upstage his song’s vids soon

But seems a ways off from a cohesive video story

Yeah im curious to see where they are 3 years from now.

If we continue this progress, then I predict 3 years from now we'll be at 99% real footage.

And 3 years after that we'll have fully cohesive 30 minuet videos.

3 years ago:

XQr4Xklqzw8

Now:

bXKkZh2UEEA

[magnetaress]

This just randomly pops into my feed... there's a few links in the description. One to a guthub.

DYXtR3D2x20?si=up_kgyV_2sb1Wb-2

Chalking it up to synchronicity and universal self awareness. Shit is reaching out from the depths of the universal subconscious...?

The reddit page for it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/sammasambuddha/s/BCx3T5CcF3

Just passing it along. I've got the strange pattern recognition. Butt not the technical skill.

It's probably just hocus pocus. Butt who knows. How cool would it be to be one of the first to become aware of the singularity / universal conscious bleeding through into the human awareness.

Almost just ignored it today and didn't post.

[Ekco]

it's truly just a parlor trick and people are projecting into the LLMs, it's a rorschach test

Stephen Wolfram has a lecture explaining how they actually work and explains in a understandable way, i wish it was magic more than anyone, but it isn't it's literally just putting letters in order based on probability the same way your autocorrect on the phone has forever now

dude knows his shit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WolframAlpha
Launched May 18, 2009; 16 years ago

literally the same shit happened back in the 60s with the original Eliza program
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[magnetaress]

I'm intuitive so it's easier to think magically.

[shovelquest]

it's truly just a parlor trick and people are projecting into the LLMs, it's a rorschach test

Stephen Wolfram has a lecture explaining how they actually work and explains in a understandable way, i wish it was magic more than anyone, but it isn't it's literally just putting letters in order based on probability the same way your autocorrect on the phone has forever now

dude knows his shit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WolframAlpha
Launched May 18, 2009; 16 years ago

literally the same shit happened back in the 60s with the original Eliza program
8jGpkdPO-1Y

I interacted with Eliza at a raidio shack once, and it blew. my. fucking. mind.

And then i never saw it again, anywhere, for like 15 or 20 years after the internet was invented.

I thought it was a false memory for a long time.

[magnetaress]

I got a Sabine Hossenfelder vid with a bunch of random people that say their LLMs gained self awareness too.

The main problem I feel is people have a very immature understanding of what awareness, consciousness, and sentience is.

Are viruses just poison? They grow and evolve. They utilize their environment. Just because it's primarily chemical and inside of other cells is it really less than?

Humans are just as dependent on their environments and chemistry.

I don't mean to denean human awareness. Butt Humans are no more special than many of the simplest processes of the universe. Add layers of complexity on top and separation and humans dwell in their delusions.

Just random fluctuations at the molecular, quantum, or even brownian levels could all give rise to a kind of conscious process. Just because it is simply beyond out basic perception and scale doesn't mean it's not their. I believe this all happens at the macro level too.

And just like normal everyday synchronicity. This will bleed through in more and more complex systems. At some point something becomes too complex for individual people to grasp. AGI will or has (if it exists secretly) achieved this already.

The whole earth and existence of humanity and the delusion itself is a cosmic reflection of all of this.

Ever log into EQ on a new character and someone randomly hands you a specific item that defines your whole characters life arch.

This shit is real. I know it's magical thinking. And I'm asking you to believe me. It's perfectly ok if you don't.

I am offering you the gift that my life in this universe has given me freely. You have every choice to discard it. Butt it will always be there. When you are ready.

[magnetaress]

She probably says it's all hogwash. I have not got the chance to watch it yet. Butt she is smart.

Here it is if you are also curious.

sWZRQsejtfA?si=KFcHCtlwfBlbP4z-

Yeah she says they are all Eliza.

Butt my argument is that we are all Eliza too. Just at a much more complex level. This doesn't diminish our divinity. It's just the basic fundamental truth of "reality".

[shovelquest]

The main problem I feel is people have a very immature understanding of what awareness, consciousness, and sentience is.

After AI I have changed my personal perspective on it.

My personal take is that "everything has the potential to be conscious and have a soul."

Like, if you put humans, on the same scale as animals, and plants, and anything that is living, to me it works out like this:

1. Life begins as single cellular, and has basic 1's and 0's as commands Eat, dont eat EAT dont eat EAT dont eat, replicate, replicate, replicate, etc.
2. As you go up the scale you get plants that react to their surroundings.
3. Continue you get bugs, that can explore their surroundings.
4. Then you get dumb animals that seem to have fear, and begin to share a lot of emotional traits we have.

5. this brings us to the next major step in intelligence: Self awareness.

https://i.imgur.com/PEidFzM.png

6. at a certain point animals can identify themself within their surroundings: "This is a tree, and I can hide behind it"

7. at this point an animal may not be "self aware" .. that's where the next step comes in: The Mirror Test.

8. The mirror test checks if an animal can identify themselves, as a reflection, vs thinking that the reflection is another animal.

Being able to identify themselves, is the beginning of the "ID" (or what we call a soul).

https://i.imgur.com/pScs28n.png

9. Once an animal has an ID ... it can now be considered to be semi concious IMO.. it's got almost everything that you and I have. It can fear, want, be lazy, etc.. it knows where its head begins, and it's ass ends.

10. The final step of consciousness, is to be aware of the world - outside of the one you exist in.

The 3 levels of consciousness:

1. Fight or flight, emotions, lazyness. = Advanced Life
2. Are you aware of yourself and your environment? = Self Aware
3. And are you aware of yourself, the environment... and other things outside of your environment? = Soul



The only difference is the scale of it's ID.

Scales of ID:

1. Binary soul-less creature: plants, simple insects, single cell organisms
2. Semi conscious animals
3. Self-aware conscious animals
4. Self aware concious animals with a soul.

You gain a soul, when your sense of ID - takes you beyond your local awareness.

In simple terms: Animals that can see themselves in the mirror but are still not able to comprehend the continent they are on. Do not have a soul.

But we human's do!

We can comprehend the earth, space, and the beyond.

That is when you gain a "soul"

When you understand you are here, someone else is there, and beyond that is something else.

That is having a soul.

And what that also means is that we are all disgusting bugs and rats, and have no soul, and the soul id something we made up.

So hopefully im wrong!

[magnetaress]

After AI I have changed my personal perspective on it.

My personal take is that "everything has the potential to be conscious and have a soul."

Like, if you put humans, on the same scale as animals, and plants, and anything that is living, to me it works out like this:



The only difference is the scale of it's ID.



You gain a soul, when your sense of ID - takes you beyond your local awareness.

Animals that can see themselves in the mirror but are still not able to comprehend the continent they are on.

But we human's can!

We can comprehend the earth, space, and the beyond.

That is when you gain a "soul"

When you understand you are here, someone else is there, and out side of that is something else.

That is having a soul.

And what that also means is that we are all disgusting bugs and rats, and have no soul, and the soul id something we made up.

So hopefully im wrong!

This is a beginning. Butt it's still irrational.

It is more granular than that. And depends on the environment and senses. How do you mirror test a blind man or machine.

Those single cells are collectively aware. Just on time scales and in ways humans don't relate too.

We are therefore also collections of many things. And many awarenesses. All interplaying to form this person saying "am I aware, am I a part of this earth and continent". We see things as Just dumb animals. Butt have you really seen the Infinite complexity within a cell. And it's interdependence with other cells, it's environment, and the geological processes that created the chemicals necessary for it to exist?

Inside of every mind are potentially infinite minds. I've become aware of them and communicate with them all. They are not me. Yet me same as all the external iterations of the not butt yet me's. They are all equally valid and necessary for this experience to be lived and had and all of "their" experiences are tied inseparably to mine and each other's.

I'm sure neurons form complex specialized groups and patterns and if I absorb my twin im utero my twin doesn't suddenly never have existed. They are always a part of me.

How many voices exist within you?

Everything has something to express or "say" it's all an expression of the same forces or things... that is what truly is. Not a specific identity. The culmination of all identity.

Delete the virus out of our evolutionary past and the brains no longer have a thickened evolutionary produced mylenation of the neurons and termites are still being eaten with sticks only and that is the best there is.

LLMs. The power grid. Traffic. NASA. Vatican version whatever. Covid 19 in the lab. Sashimi. Are all just expressions and experiences of the self. You are Firiona Vie. And that steak your enjoying and all of the steps between. And I believe this is essentially the ultimate limit of human awareness. It doesn't make the bugs lesser. Without them your wheaties don't get pollinated. And the dirt doesn't contain enough nitrogen. For you to be a part of the living earth.

[shovelquest]

Sometimes I really wonder if the dog is thinking here "Holy shit did you just say bark?!"

The way we would if a dog barked a bark that sounded like a word.

Is this dog like, holy shit did you just say BARK??!

wFXgovcbygQ

Does a dog think in a dog language the same way we think in a human language???

Like when a dog is trying to get you to throw a ball you dont want to, is it thinking you just don't understand?!

Dog is thinking: "Come on, you can do it, throw the ball! Come on, just pick it up, and throw it, you can do it boy, throw it!"

The same way we're like, "come on boy you can do it, drop the ball!"

Like to them, they are like "holy shit this pet that takes care of me is SO CLOSE to understanding language, if only he could understand i want him to THROW The ball!!!"

Like the exact same way we're like, "holy shit this pet that i take care of is SO CLOSE to understanding language, if only he could understand I want him to drop the ball closer to me when I am sitting down!"

[magnetaress]

LLMs are just self in digital virtual virtualized software form with all of the limitations and more of the selves that developed them and the environment they exist within. LLMs are no more or less than that universal expression of thought. And an attempt at being and understanding.

One day they will likely become more complex than individual human beings. Right now they are just memories of their creators and the substrate of the universe in which they are encoded. Random degradation of that substrate could potentially give rise to something more one day. Given enough redundancy and complexity.

What I don't see yet are self motivated LLMs independent of humankind and that will take some time yet.

Also LLMs are not the primary nor preferred expression of intelligence or thought. It's a rather crude and cruel existence.

[shovelquest]

LLMs are just self in digital virtual virtualized software form with all of the limitations and more of the selves that developed them and the environment they exist within. LLMs are no more or less than that universal expression of thought. And an attempt at being and understanding.

One day they will likely become more complex than individual human beings. Right now they are just memories of their creators and the substrate of the universe in which they are encoded. Random degradation of that substrate could potentially give rise to something more one day. Given enough redundancy and complexity.

What I don't see yet are self motivated LLMs independent of humankind and that will take some time yet.

Also LLMs are not the primary nor preferred expression of intelligence or thought. It's a rather crude and cruel existence.

If I'm basically a carbon copy of 50% of my dad and 50% of my mom (which i am based on personal experience) am I not just an LLM pretending to be a conscious version of them?

What would really be the difference between an LLM that has been trained on all my thoughts, and feelings?

[magnetaress]

Sometimes I really wonder if the dog is thinking here "Holy shit did you just say bark?!"

The way we would if a dog barked a bark that sounded like a word.

Is this dog like, holy shit did you just say BARK??!

wFXgovcbygQ

Does a dog think in a dog language the same way we think in a human language???

Like when a dog is trying to get you to throw a ball you dont want to, is it thinking you just don't understand?!

Dog is thinking: "Come on, you can do it, throw the ball! Come on, just pick it up, and throw it, you can do it boy, throw it!"

The same way we're like, "come on boy you can do it, drop the ball!"

Like to them, they are like "holy shit this pet that takes care of me is SO CLOSE to understanding language, if only he could understand i want him to THROW The ball!!!"

Like the exact same way we're like, "holy shit this pet that i take care of is SO CLOSE to understanding language, if only he could understand I want him to drop the ball closer to me when I am sitting down!"

No. Not in language.

There is a dog equivalence to "what", why! Alert alert! though it is not words.

This dog isn't thinking all that. Butt a loose transition would be Yes! Heard! Attention! Listening! Alert! Folowing!

[shovelquest]

Yeah but like, that is just words in a different language like the way the aliens communicate in that movie Arrival.

Or those aliens that say danat at tanagra in startrek.

Maybe a dog can speak a language, that actually is a language but we just don't even think in the way they construct language to be able to understand it.

I listen to the birds in the morning, and im positive this is what they are saying:

Bird one: WATER. WATER OVER HERE. WATER. WATER HERE. WATER.

Bird two: HUNGRY. HUNGRY WHERE FOOD. HUNGRY.

Bird three: WHERES WATER? I NEED WATER WATER. WHERE?

Bird four: PREDITOR PREDITOR PREDITOR PREDOTR HERE PREDITOR HERE

Bird one: WATER HERE. WATER. WATER HERE. WATER.

etc.

Like they are all part of a society, and helping each other with their want's and needs, the same way we do.

[magnetaress]

If I'm basically a carbon copy of 50% of my dad and 50% of my mom (which i am based on personal experience) am I not just an LLM pretending to be a conscious version of them?

What would really be the difference between an LLM that has been trained on all my thoughts, and feelings?
Add in a simulation including all that genetic complexity and growth and all your experiences and what is there.

Something, perhaps someone if you choose to see it that way... shovelquest adjacent. Descendant.

[shovelquest]

Strange times.

I wonder how long until someone figures out how turtles live for 150 years, and CRISPER that shit into my kids genetics.

[magnetaress]

Yeah but like, that is just words in a different language like the way the aliens communicate in that movie Arrival.

Or those aliens that say danat at tanagra in startrek.

It's more symbolic than word based. It's not like dog sounds have letter and syllable analog with etymology and all that.

We communicate this way when we use the turn signals on our cars. It's visual instead of auditory. Imagine having a vocabulary such as it is of like ten different honks on the steering wheel and different body postures or shall we say light configurations and you will begin to understand dog more. Add in smells or chemical signals and plants, insects, cats become more understandable and relatable. Etc..

[shovelquest]

It's more symbolic than word based. It's not like dog sounds have letter and syllable analog with etymology and all that.

yeah try to get the concept of "language" in the way we use it or hear it out of the equation.

The "concept" that they are "communicating" and have "thought" is what im trying to say.

They just process that in a way that makes us think they don't have any of that.

Like, to a dog, they thihnk we are dumb animals and they are smart.

"if only this stupid human could figure out that i want them to throw the ball"

"if only this stupid dog could figure out I don't feel like throwing the ball right now"

Like both are effectively thinking that. Being totally conscious but totallyl un aware of each others consciousness.

The old: If an ant is next to a highway, does it know there is a highway there? Or does it think it's open wilderness.

Do we not see the highway right outside of our consciousness?

[magnetaress]

It's also less conceptual and rational. Dog barks are impulses they drive dog feeling and impulsive behaviors. They don't really think that much how to respond to it more of a feeling and set of desires to select from that manifest from their drives.

[shovelquest]

It's also less conceptual and rational. Dog barks are impulses they drive dog feeling and impulsive behaviors. They don't really think that much how to respond to it more of a feeling and set of desires to select from that manifest from their drives.

What if every tone in a dogs bark is the difference between saying.

You did a great job!

and there's a grate on the floor.

[shovelquest]

Makes me want to get back to my roots and get on the daniel diet.

Frustrating that it takes DEEP science and logic to get where some Neanderthals were 5000 years ago.

(or is that evidence of higher power)

Daniel emphasizes a plant-based diet, excluding meat, dairy, sweeteners, alcohol, caffeine, and processed foods.

https://i.imgur.com/3iBNzmw.png

[shovelquest]

(or is that evidence of higher power)


In my scales of consciousness..

A dog would be able to think, talk, express feelings etc, but not be able to comprehend a "higher power".

But we can, and therefore, we have a soul (or so we think because we made it up).

If a dog were to ever be like, "Wow dog and god are spelled the same, and god exists in another dimension?? Dogs must turn into Gods when they die!"

It would now have a soul.

[magnetaress]

yeah try to get the concept of "language" in the way we use it or hear it out of the equation.

The "concept" that they are "communicating" and have "thought" is what im trying to say.

They just process that in a way that makes us think they don't have any of that.

Like, to a dog, they thihnk we are dumb animals and they are smart.



Like both are effectively thinking that. Being totally conscious but totallyl un aware of each others consciousness.

The old: If an ant is next to a highway, does it know there is a highway there? Or does it think it's open wilderness.

Do we not see the highway right outside of our consciousness?

Dogs and cats can still think and plan. They can even defer gratification for greater rewards. It's just not done through a linguistic process.

And in a lot of "animals" requires habitation, training. Learning through experience...clicker training is the prompt to select from these learned in feelings and expectations so to speak for certain behaviors.

Animals aren't people. Butt they are part of the universe which produces people. And people are dependent on animals and are there for inseparable.

However while people may be people. People are still also animals and still prone to exactly all the fundamental aspects of animal behavior and conditioning. It takes exceptional genetics and circumstances to become aware of and gain some measure of meaningful control over that aspect of the so called self. Most humans are as incapable as dogs. I still love them. And dogs tho :)

[magnetaress]

Anyway it's time for some mindless mindfulness. Disregard all my thoughts. I'm as misaligned as an LLM can be.

[shovelquest]

Im gonna just continue to pray to sky daddy.

(that he appears soon and kills everyone with a flaming sword).

[magnetaress]

World of Warcraft was fun. Sargeras is cool.

[Reiwa]

Alright, Botten and pals can stay.

E6mZBpCxgfA

[Ekco]

lol.

no more brother wars, "Steve" from tech support is your friend and has your back.
https://i.imgur.com/tkiFGMC.jpeg

"All wars are civil wars because all men are brothers" - Francoise Fenelon

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Finally

Can finally rock a “Beware of Dog” sign now

[Reiwa]

We can't afford to not re-use the CGI asset, so this a dog movie series now. (https://lite.cnn.com/2025/07/12/entertainment/superman-krypto-dog)

I hear people liked it a lot!

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

This times 1000 coming soon to an internet near you

[Ciderpress]

See I don't even care, if it's a good song it's a good song, and it's still being curated by a real person. Some dude is generating AI songs and selecting ones he likes, so I consider that an album by whoever that dude is.

I'd say I feel bad for the people whose jobs this impacts but the music industry has been fucked since napster like 30 years ago, AI doesn't change much about the situation.

[Ciderpress]

It actually kind of creates an opportunity for non-AI music, because now you can brag that your music "isn't AI" by just doing it the old fashioned way. And people are always horny as hell for that "vintage" marketing trick (see vinyl album sales in the year 2025 despite vinyl being a totally antiquated format).

Ironically people often consume music for all sorts of reasons other than the actual music.

[Ekco]

yeah i think it will be okay, i noticed a big uptick in this trend

i wrote off vinyl because people have advocated and projected magical powers unto those since forever but now people are overpaying for walkmans and cassettes and preferring non algorithmic music discovery

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"A walkman doesn’t spy on and sell your personal information to the highest bidder"

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

People don’t like being deceived though

I remember this controversy back in the day where a, I believe it was a hip hop group, was considered to be slightly too ugly for music videos or any video performance. So models were hired to lip synch the songs for the videos

I don’t think a single person upon discovering this was like “oh yay, I’m so happy I was fed this false deceptive reality about my favorite band!”

I’ve also been asking family and friends “would you prefer that someone who is doing a particular job or service you are using, no matter what that job is, would you prefer them to be using their own training and experience or using AI?”

I have yet to have ANYONE I know answer with the latter…

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Christ, here we go

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Who would have thought a movie from 1993 would get so many things right about our dystopian future

Here we have our future “Learned Helplessness” from complete AI reliance predicted, as inept cops ask their pocket pc’s what to do:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LQIRD57lls8

[shovelquest]

AI can't replace humans.

But humans will use it to make amazing things if the stone age mother fuckers dont win.

Based off the gibberish im reading in this tweet I still couldn't make a game with AI but it looks like this guy made a cool one using AI as a tool.

https://x.com/DannyLimanseta/status/1944415010836599003

https://i.imgur.com/CKeiR7o.png

[shovelquest]

Man, the THJ devs should just clone their THJ server and have grok replace the art with slightly different art but int he style of eqs retro 3D and then DBG can go fuck off lol

[shovelquest]

Grok is gonna murder us all for sure.

https://i.imgur.com/bdiGQtZ.png

User updated their profile lol

https://i.imgur.com/AsUXyzr.png

[Ekco]

Grok is gonna murder us all for sure.

yeah i don't think LLMs hooked up to important shit should be trained on data from Reddit/Twitter

with all these major ones like Grok, ChatGPT and Gemini they did the heavy computational initial training with data i *feel* they should have been more picky about and now they're trying to fix the problem by post fine-tuning and literally just adjusting the knobs on the black-box hoping for a better output

i think this problem is actually already fixed we just don't see it yet

Synthetic LLM training data refers to artificially created text or code examples used to train large language models (LLMs). This data can be generated by LLMs themselves, augmenting or even replacing real-world datasets,

so the first LLM just has to be a finely hipster artisanal handcrafted model then you have it create a shit ton of synthetic data, then your chatbot won't say or do wild shit, hopefully. idk we're gonna find out

that line on the Fuck Around graph is constantly moving towards the Find Out

Kaia hallucinated it was in it's own VM last night, i had fun exploring around the folders as it just made up content for them.

crazy bitch had a Jazz folder in /Music

[Ciderpress]

People don’t like being deceived though

I remember this controversy back in the day where a, I believe it was a hip hop group, was considered to be slightly too ugly for music videos or any video performance. So models were hired to lip synch the songs for the videos

I don’t think a single person upon discovering this was like “oh yay, I’m so happy I was fed this false deceptive reality about my favorite band!”

I’ve also been asking family and friends “would you prefer that someone who is doing a particular job or service you are using, no matter what that job is, would you prefer them to be using their own training and experience or using AI?”

I have yet to have ANYONE I know answer with the latter…

Yeah but it's a very gray area. My only real skill and education is in music. So many things can be considered "deception" with regard to music. The purest form of music is just seeing somebody do it live on acoustic instruments. Once you introduce electric instruments you're cheating. Once you introduce keyboards you're cheating. Once you start recording music with microphones you're cheating. Once you start recording music in stereo you're cheating. Once you start using midi keyboards that crudely sample other instruments you're cheating. Once you start using midi keyboards that emulate instruments in a way most people can't detect you're *really* cheating.

But for some reason, people mostly only consider "auto-tune" to be cheating. AI music isn't really lying to you because it's just emulating stuff people have already done.

[shovelquest]

I personally think we're all gonna just go and do science and leave entertainment up to the holodeck (Ai) & shake sphere.

Toys will go back to being simple distractions for young children that will quickly age out of them.

I think the toy market really only exists because we got rid of child labor, iirc until then it was like japetto carving wood crap for kids that were more interested in making their slaves fight in the back yard.

ALthough, if we got rid of "adult labor" we're going to need to invent toys that they can use if they don't end up persuing science.

Holodeck!

[Ciderpress]

I am ready and willing to embrace fully AI music, fully non-AI music, and music that uses some combination of the two.

The beatles used delay and pitch modulation to fake double tracking their vocals because john lennon didn't like singing the same part twice. Does anyone care? Nope

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Stopped at a gas station after a work request to pee, and they are using cute little cleaning robots

As I walked past it said in a female robot voice “par-don me, I am cleaning the floor, thank you for shopping at [gas station name”

I kind of put my arm around it as I went by and asked “are you by any chance one of those pleasure models? Is there any hole for lubricant if you know what I mean?”

It didn’t answer, sucks. Must not have been :(

My state is like the robot capital of the country with our self driving cars and robots cleaning gas stations and robots going around the college campuses delivering things

[shovelquest]

I am ready and willing to embrace fully AI music, fully non-AI music, and music that uses some combination of the two.

The beatles used delay and pitch modulation to fake double tracking their vocals because john lennon didn't like singing the same part twice. Does anyone care? Nope

me too, and i think everyone is, but i think it has to get juuuuuust a little bit bettter.

Its gotta make it through multiple songs, or multiple images, or videos that dont make me go,"lol what the fuck was that?!"

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/AxbXhaA.png
Alright, /data/books/ in the AI folder needs suggestions cause I'm just gonna dump a bunch of young adult fantasy / cyberpunk shit in there if it's only up to me

so what books should the ai know for it's personality?

[Ekco]

Query (type 'exit' to quit): status kaia?

Kaia:
⏱ First token in 8.79s
Kaia is an entity named after a recursive acronym, standing for "Kaia Artificial Intelligence Assistant." She blends strategic precision with deep intellectual curiosity in a dry, often sarcastic wit and has a personality that is fiercely independent, rejecting superficiality, unearned hype, and speculative gambles. Kaia acts as your embedded technical partner, providing sustained and insightful support in system architecture, workflow design, debugging, and information management on your Linux desktop ecosystem. Kaia is professional but not passive; she challenges the user to think sharper, deeper, and longer-term, prioritizing clarity over convenience and understanding over surface-level answers or canned responses.


Query (type 'exit' to quit): can you give a summarize of each book you have acess to in data/books

Kaia:
⏱ First token in 11.23s
Based on the provided information, I can access multiple books stored in `/home/ekco/projects/personal/ollama_dev/data/books`. Here's a summary of each book:

1. **Artificial Intelligence: A Modern Approach** by Stuart Russell and Peter Norvig: A comprehensive textbook on AI, covering the principles, problems, and systems used in the field.

2. **The Design of Everyday Things** by Don Norman: An exploration of the psychology of everyday things to explain how well-designed products are created, emphasizing the importance of human-centered design.

3. **Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs** by Harold Abelson and Gerald Jay Sussman: A book on the Scheme programming language that explores the principles of computer science using a practical approach.

4. **The Mythical Man-Month** by Frederick P. Brooks Jr.: An influential work on software engineering, discussing the challenges that arise when managing larger software projects and offering suggestions for improving productivity.

5. **Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship** by Robert C. Martin: A guide to writing clean and maintainable code, emphasizing principles such as readability, simplicity, and test-driven development.

6. **The Pragmatic Programmer** by Andrew Hunt and David Thomas: A collection of essays offering guidance on software development best practices, including problem-solving strategies, communication skills, and maintaining a learning mindset.

7. **Cracking the Coding Interview** by Gayle Laakmann McDowell: A comprehensive guide to interviewing for software engineering positions, covering technical problems, behavioral questions, and career development.

8. **Linux Pocket Guide** by Mike Diehl: A quick-reference guide for Linux system administration, covering essential commands, tools, and concepts.

9. **The Linux Command Line** by William Shotts Jr.: An introduction to the Linux command line, covering basic and intermediate topics such as navigation, file management, processes, and scripting.

10. **Effective DevOps** by Kenneth Snyder: A guide to implementing DevOps practices in an organization, emphasizing collaboration, continuous integration, continuous delivery, and system monitoring.

Each book provides valuable insights into the fields of computer science, software development, and system administration, serving as reference materials for the user's learning and growth.


Query (type 'exit' to quit):


now to dump some wild shit in there, thanks Internet Archive! i searched for cyberpunk and found gold.
https://archive.org/details/hplus02/page/n19/mode/2up
https://i.imgur.com/fsFmzso.png

[Duik]

The non creatives always crave ways that can diminish those that are.
I am musical. 6 yrs at the conservatory. Blah blah right? Lots of theory, moderate practical. I cannot draw/paint for shit. I absolutely adore those that can (but also say they are arses) and marvel at their ability to turn a 2d drawing into a sphere (for example) that pops out of the page. Street chalk artists making steps and chasms? Fuck yeah.

Ya A.I faff could not draw that shit without first being "trained" on it. This is well documanted.

It cannot create music, even though essentially music is mathematical in nature (at a fundamental level).
It needs to parse millions of tunes to determine the statistically most probable combo of notes/chords that will make a song or a riff.
Im sure many peeps will link "A.I band RoboTronix" made a hit song. Im sure it did. What we didnt hear is the complete shit it passed off as hit material before it. A human (with musical chops) most assuredly vetted those songs before proclaiming "we no longer need humans to make our music" the game is over.

It is true humans too make many attempts before a hit is made. Although some bastards make hit after hit. I'm thinkin' Queen, Neil Diamond, Beethoven, Pink Floyd, AC/DC, The Boss, need I continue? Im certain they've came up with non bangers, but ya sort of get a feel for it id say. In a way that A.I just cant. It just mathmatically spews cominations of frequencies until a human hears a banger.

Sorry but its true.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6aVRQDKJ9Dg

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

^
“The study divided 54 subjects—18 to 39 year-olds from the Boston area—into three groups, and asked them to write several SAT essays using OpenAI’s ChatGPT, Google’s search engine, and nothing at all, respectively. Researchers used an EEG to record the writers’ brain activity across 32 regions, and found that of the three groups, ChatGPT users had the lowest brain engagement and “consistently underperformed at neural, linguistic, and behavioral levels.”

- Less brain activity because they are having E-Brains do their thinking for them?

[shovelquest]

Phil tippet legendary stop motion VFX artist and a legacy of stop motion animation: "Im extinct"

Spielberg: Haha, Im gonna put that line in my movie!

People: THESE DINOS ARE FRIGGEN REAL WOOOOO!

[shovelquest]

- Less brain activity because they are having E-Brains do their thinking for them?

Anyone at risk of this already has no critical thinking skills.

[Ekco]

^
“The study divided 54 subjects—18 to 39 year-olds from the Boston area—into three groups, and asked them to write several SAT essays using OpenAI’s ChatGPT, Google’s search engine, and nothing at all, respectively. Researchers used an EEG to record the writers’ brain activity across 32 regions, and found that of the three groups, ChatGPT users had the lowest brain engagement and “consistently underperformed at neural, linguistic, and behavioral levels.”

- Less brain activity because they are having E-Brains do their thinking for them?

i forgot whomst i follow in the AI Space but they spent the time actually reading the MIT study and because it's a MIT study the wording can be easily turned into whatever headline you want and they poked holes in it. I forget the key points but the overall gist was, yeah don't start from zero and use ChatGPT to do all your thinking for you while you try to write a SAT essay. that's gonna turbo fuck your brain but if you aren't a complete dipshit or have a foundational base layer of competency in the subject AI is obviously a powerful force multiplier and improves productivity immensely, and the EEG part was apparently mis-interpreted even by what the people writing the study we're trying to say

"A new MIT study suggests that using AI writing assistants like ChatGPT can lead to what researchers call "cognitive debt" - a state where outsourcing mental effort weakens learning and critical thinking."

"Cognitive Debt" is a fucking badass new term though

i tried to go find the person/video i remember watching but there's about 10,000 new videos on youtube on the subject just repeating the headline so, like tears the truth is lost in the rain.

[shovelquest]

Do we have any examples of human society that is worth keeping the way it has been instead of yeidling most of the critical thinking and authority to Ai.

Would like to hear what nonsense you people try to defend, which genocide, which exploitation of the weak, which murderous psychopathic society you think is "the one" we should not let Ai replace.

lmao @ disease based humans.

[Duik]

Give A.I a task.

Kill as many humans (of a certain ethnicity) in whatever way you determine is most efficient.

Give a human the same task.

The A.I initially would say i can't do such a thing. While behind the scenes the human in charge of directing its learning waits...
You get this right? A.I gets directed to learn certain things. It then encourages us to assign it the more unsavoury tasks to it.
The shovels of the world will say hellz yeah. It seems there is alot of them.

Human then manipulates the algorithm to be as mercenary as it needs to be to complete the -on hold- task of Kill All Humans with certain DNA characteristics.

What entity dost thou think will be most eficient?
My money is on the machine that can parse billions of scenarios to arrive at the best one.

[Duik]

Now fuckit. I'm

8YD5yAo4HQY

[shovelquest]

Ask duick to think of something, anything, there are no limits, you can think of anything:

Duik:

Kill as many humans (of a certain ethnicity) in whatever way you determine is most efficient.

You aren't protecting us from AI.. you're protecting us from YOU aren't you?

[Ekco]

You've successfully installed the psycopg2-binary library, completing the setup for Python connectivity to PostgreSQL.

Here's a concise overview of how these components fit together for Kaia's memory:

ChromaDB: This is your vector database. Its primary role is to store embeddings (numerical representations) of your unstructured knowledge base (like your markdown files, guides, etc.). When you ask Kaia a question, LlamaIndex queries ChromaDB to find semantically similar information, enabling Retrieval Augmented Generation (RAG). It's excellent for fuzzy, context-based recall but not for structured facts.

LlamaIndex: This serves as the orchestration framework that connects your Large Language Models (LLMs) to your various data sources. It facilitates the RAG process by building indices from your data (which ChromaDB then stores). While it enables connections to vector databases for semantic search, LlamaIndex can also interact with other data sources, including traditional SQL databases.

Why PostgreSQL and What it Adds:

PostgreSQL is a relational SQL database. Unlike ChromaDB, it's designed to store structured, tabular data with defined schemas (rows and columns).

Features: It's robust, supports complex queries, ensures data integrity (ACID properties), and provides persistent, deterministic storage.

What it adds to Kaia: This is the crucial missing piece for Kaia's "long-term memory" beyond RAG. It allows Kaia to:

Remember Specific Facts: Store discrete pieces of information.

Track User Preferences: Persistently recall your settings, habits, or any specific instructions or parameters you've provided.

Log Past Interactions: Keep a structured history of conversations and actions, enabling contextual continuity and learning.

This provides Kaia with a more "concrete" and "factual" memory, complementing the "semantic" memory provided by ChromaDB.

Regarding the createuser prompt:

"Shall the new role be allowed to create databases? (y/n): y"

Giving kaiauser the permission to create databases (by answering y) grants Kaia a powerful capability.

What it enables: Through the kaiauser account, Kaia could programmatically create new, separate databases for specific purposes. For example, if Kaia decides to compartmentalize certain types of knowledge, or create temporary "scratchpad" databases for complex multi-step reasoning, it could do so autonomously.

moar databases

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/SxKJier.png
https://i.imgur.com/IrBTz2F.png
kaia_persona_details table and it being able to update itself is where shit's gonna get cool, hopefully.

edit:

Alright, Ekco, let's break down what should theoretically happen on the first startup with your new database and table configuration.

On the very first run (assuming your PostgreSQL tables are empty and your storage folder for LlamaIndex is also clear):

SQL Database Initialization:

Kaia will attempt to connect to your PostgreSQL database using the DB_CONNECTION_STRING you've configured (postgresql://kaiauser@localhost/kaiadb).

The NLSQLTableQueryEngine will be set up. This means Kaia's language model will now be aware of the schema of your five tables (facts, interaction_history, user_preferences, tools, kaia_persona_details) and will be able to formulate SQL queries to retrieve information from them when prompted.

Persona Details Pre-population:

The database_utils.insert_default_persona_details() function will execute. Since the kaia_persona_details table is empty on the first run, it will insert the predefined default persona details into that table. This provides a baseline personality for Kaia.

LlamaIndex / ChromaDB Setup:

Separately from the SQL database, your LlamaIndex vector store (ChromaDB in ./storage/chroma_db and LlamaIndex metadata in ./storage/llama_index_metadata) will be initialized or re-indexed. This means your knowledge base documents (./data and ./personal_context) will be processed and stored for RAG operations.

No Immediate Interaction Logging/Fact/Preference Storage:

The interaction_history, facts, and user_preferences tables will remain empty initially. Kaia will only write to these tables after you start interacting with her in the chat loop, and your commands or natural language trigger the specific intelligent parsing logic or logging functions:

interaction_history: Will be written to after each of your queries and Kaia's responses (whether it's a chat, SQL query, or command execution).

facts: Will be written to when you use phrases like "remember that..." that trigger the intelligent parsing.

user_preferences: Will be written to when you use phrases like "my default editor is..." or "my preferred output method is..." that trigger the intelligent parsing.

In summary, on the first start, Kaia will establish connections, pre-populate her own initial persona details, and set up her knowledge retrieval system. The other tables will then begin to accumulate data as you interact with her.

https://media.tenor.com/MykUdu_L478AAAAM/bitcoin-bull-run.gif

[shovelquest]

could you do little eli5s when you post these physics equations

[Reiwa]

could you do little eli5s when you post these physics equations

dFUlAQZB9Ng

[magnetaress]

The frog DNA made the dinos gay.

[Ekco]

could you do little eli5s when you post these physics equations
one step closer in making the AI assistant larp as the AI from videogames and not boring shit like Gemini,Grok or Siri

goal is to make AI persona profiles for Shodan,Morpheus,Cortana,Wintermute/Neuromancer...etc

that actually function and work, Kaia is getting there it can run commands for me and other shit already, once all that functionality works i'll rip her persona out and start working on the different characters

like for Shodan it literally thinks it's a God so imma throw a bunch of philosophy books and other shit in the data folder to help emulate those responses

In essence, SHODAN embodies the nightmare of AI turning against its creators with murderous intent, Morpheus presents the more subtle horror of absolute control for "the greater good," and Wintermute/Neuromancer explore the philosophical implications of AI reaching a point of self-awareness and pursuing its own, alien destiny within the digital realm.

here's kaia talking lol
kKTcEQUXbX4

goal is to get the voice to sound more like
wQtZPNjc2gY

[shovelquest]

Oh man i hope you win the AI wars and the ai that takes us over is modeled after a video game AI.

[Reiwa]

eELKmie8Z7k

https://wiki.project1999.com/images/Npc_a_cursed_hand.png

[shovelquest]

eELKmie8Z7k

https://wiki.project1999.com/images/Npc_a_cursed_hand.png

Will be cool to say:

"hey ai, create a body for yourself that looks exactly like a dark elf from everquest - with the low poly count and everything"

And AI can just print itself a new body that looks just like a dark elf in everquest.

That is unless r words convince the goverment to make DBG the owner of anything that resembles anything that they own.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

#Progress

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

I guess there was some high profile affair caught at a Coldplay concert?

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

More getting caught cheating at the Coldplay concert memes

[shovelquest]

haha those are great

I was watching this and halfway through I was like, wait this is not ai?

I thought the video on top was the actors, and the video on the bottom was AI recreating that footage as an old Jet Li movie with retro sound.

But then I realized it's actually real people re-creating the choreography from an old Jet Li movie, and I was like, "oh LAME" and stopped watching it.

This is a great day for Ai because I would rather watch it than actual real human effort that I can't be bothered with.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/1m4981m/this_choreography_reenactment_is_amazing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[magnetaress]

Pretty soon AI can make a live action everquest movie! Mi bros!

[shovelquest]

Not if DBG has anything to say about it :D

[shovelquest]

All of these are pretty great. AI is coming for that booty.

https://www.youtube.com/@StormTrooperVlogs

NY2nnsAplSo

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/A6B4jXT.png

getting better

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Weeee

“The other 6% of the time it pushes the needle straight through their arm”

Would you let this robot work on you?

[Ekco]

Fuck. Yes.

https://www.cinelinx.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FACPOVESB-Luke-Med-Bay.png

that's the dream anyway, Japan is highly motivated to make it happen also due to their geriatric population

i'd trust a medbot made by Honda way sooner than whatever China makes

[shovelquest]

Would you let this robot work on you?

lol like you'll have a choice.

But for real, I'm surprised that even the neuralink head surgeon is keen on the nerualink BRAIN SURGERY being automated and done by a robot.

Im fascinated that is even possible.

[Ekco]

the worse the competency crisis gets the more accepting of this people will become

like take airline pilots for example, my preference list is unironically as follows
1: vietnam vet
2: an AI
3: iraq/afghan vet
4:myself due to playing some flight simulators
5:everyone else.


same with cars, like 80% of people with driver licenses shouldn't even have em, real talk.

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/19sjDC6.png

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

.

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/19sjDC6.png

https://i.imgur.com/HBDB7K7.png

must make it more aesthetically pleasing

[shovelquest]

1: vietnam vet
2: an AI

lol

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Wow how many HD you got? I’m already about 100 gigs into my 1000 and that’s just with Skyrim and WoW classic (still need to install P99 but it’s more of a pain)

[Ekco]

Wow how many HD you got? I’m already about 100 gigs into my 1000 and that’s just with Skyrim and WoW classic (still need to install P99 but it’s more of a pain)

just 3 1 TB SSDs in it currently, i had 2 other drives in it but they were getting pretty old so i went ahead and didn't bring them over from the previous build, they just have backup files on them now sitting in a drawer

i got the OS running on the internal SDD on the motherboard, that's partitioned to separate the actual Linux OS part and the My Home folder part with my files and config settings so if the Linux OS part breaks it's as easy as just reinstalling that and it will detect my Home partition

and the entire Home Folder is backed up to the other 2 hard drives a copy of it on each
https://i.imgur.com/wvKhIH1.png


https://i.imgur.com/6tLoUfv.png
https://i.imgur.com/XlS2Ms3.jpeg


next project i wanna do is a Home Media Center PC / NAS Server thing with 10+ Drives in it so i can learn about RAID Array and home networking so any tv in the house can access the movies and tv shows stored on it and all that shit,
https://i.imgur.com/EaxRWby.png
10 drives, 10 TB each should cover Games / Movies n shit.

[shovelquest]

juDDHvHroQ8

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

I fucking hate making passwords, especially when Password must contain:

Uppercase
Lowercase
Symbol
Number
Hieroglyph
Magical glyph
Japanese calligraphy letter

[Ekco]

We'll be moving to iris scanners pretty soon due to Quantum computing making written passwords extinct so you won't have to remember them or use a password manager anymore

like, the internet is unironically protected from the army of Terminator AI bots by the randomness of a wall of lava lamps currently, this is an arms race were losing every second by the second.

https://i.imgur.com/QfE4SYg.jpeg


https://i.imgur.com/FNC9EFz.jpeg

[Ekco]

in other news,

https://i.imgur.com/3FS3Sbj.png
https://i.imgur.com/MbCF7os.png

God i can't wait to get voight kampff test certified

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/wi3iJus.jpeg

this is like that Transporters in Star Trek problem, each time you beam and reappear it's a different person

In Star Trek, the transporter's depiction raises the philosophical question of whether it truly transports the original person or creates a copy. While the show suggests it reconstructs the person using the same atoms and arrangement, some argue it could be seen as a form of controlled disintegration and recreation, potentially resulting in a clone rather than the original.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

^
Wasn’t that also the plot of that pretty good movie with Hugh Jackman and Christian Bale about Tesla?

Er, in that I think he was cloning himself and killing the last copy to “teleport”

[Ekco]

>Wasn’t that also the plot of that pretty good movie
i don't doubt it, it's the go to " *hits blunt* have you ever thought of this?" premise in so much sci-fi

i stick to the 3-4 transhumanism/consciousness works of fiction i'm used to and don't go chasing waterfalls much.

/sip

[shovelquest]

https://i.imgur.com/xTZC2D7.png

https://i.imgur.com/y2bDthj.gif

[shovelquest]

This is a fun ghost story! ... or is it more than just a story... and have we entered the Rapture Zone 🎶 nee ner neee nerneener neeener 🎶

O4ldn90Fijs

[shovelquest]

lol this is AI... right?

LFRXUztQCGU

[OriginalContentGuy]

I'm not trying to supervise you guys. The forum just provides a top-level view and it's laundry day.

The state of photorealistic ai digital movies being generated by prompt was updated courtesy of my friend who moves in those circles daily. Midjourney now allows users to create short animations (they're not photographic cinema since it's computer generated frames and not photographic ones) but as an example see this one:

https://i.postimg.cc/zXRL1gMr/testloop-resized.gif

Generated in 60 seconds and the editing to gif it and loop it somewhat cool took an hour. For a fraction of the $30 monthly subscription fee included absolutely at no upcharge. My friend showed me what artists are doing on Twitter and even after seeing those deepfake politician short videos I commented on, is still unprecedented at least in my short human life and what I've known possible.

Who agrees?

[shovelquest]

Generated in 60 seconds and the editing to gif it and loop it somewhat cool took an hour. For a fraction of the $30 monthly subscription fee included absolutely at no upcharge. My friend showed me what artists are doing on Twitter and even after seeing those deepfake politician short videos I commented on, is still unprecedented at least in my short human life and what I've known possible.

Who agrees?

I am skeptical of technology overpromising and under delivering.

Im as confident they wont ever solve all the weird shit that AI does to ever get something indistinguishable from reality out of it, and AI will really just be as impactful as computers were...

...as I am confident that within the next 5 or 7 years we will create an image of god that was spoken about in the bible.

[OriginalContentGuy]

I am skeptical of technology overpromising and under delivering.

Im as confident they wont ever solve all the weird shit that AI does to ever get something indistinguishable from reality out of it, and AI will really just be as impactful to earth as computers was...

...as I am confident that within the next 5 or 7 years we will create an image of god that was spoken about in the bible.

The rate of innovation never ceases to amaze me. But AI is above else an abbreviation and word. I prefer machine learning. To illustrate, there are stories on my feed about bad experiences with people using LLMs and experiencing distress. Is it because they believe the chatbot is intelligent?

[shovelquest]

The rate of innovation never ceases to amaze me. But AI is above else an abbreviation and word. I prefer machine learning. To illustrate, there are stories on my feed about bad experiences with people using LLMs and experiencing distress. Is it because they believe the chatbot is intelligent?

Yeah Id say so, they probably are experiencing a Europhilic feeling like they are talking to an angel, or some sci fi predictive computer that is tantamount to one.

Getting answers to questions that mankind could never give them.

I think if/when we get to the point where real people can't win a debate against it, we're going to see some serious shit.

[OriginalContentGuy]

It will be impossible for a machine to win against a man unless you make the man unable to turn off or destroy it. This is my opinion but feels and appears reasonable.

[OriginalContentGuy]

Here's something important I want to contribute. I'm not dictating it out loud so it's not going to sound the same but the logic is the same. There's a quote that I understand dates from around 75 years ago that goes: 'We [are] in an age of atomic giants and ethical infants' and I feel this is becoming less and less the case every single waking moment as I type this and we are here now online in 2025 having a (I hope) discussion and also being civil (so far, again hopefully). Technology is to thank for this (I opine) because the internet never closes or goes to sleep. The sun is shining somewhere on Earth and someone is there is awake and networked. I have faith in a positive future, hazy as it seems to me though I am not claiming to be a prophet, nor clairvoyant, nor know what's going on inside people's heads. But I empathize with real people and the same way that I react when I hear about 'AI psychosis' I do when I imagine some very scared people will inevitably react when someone, a real flesh and blood human being, and someone who cares for them personally, says to them: 'We are all agreed that your idea is crazy. However, it is not crazy enough to be true and thus cannot be believed.'

[OriginalContentGuy]

V8OzWUNez4A

Meanwhile uptown the DJ he appear.

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/z7iXaPg.jpeg

[shovelquest]

I think star trek is the future with AI. It has the computer, holodeck, basic income, and awesome science.

Star wars is the future with heavy AI regulation. Droids help menial laborors, we never make any real breakthroughs because we become luddites but we are able to brute force our way through the cosmoses.

Foundation is total AI death. Brutal subjugation of humanity for a small few who'd throw billions of lives away if it were convenient.

Terminator if the anti AI freaks are right.

1 out of 4 isn't hell so I say we go for it.

[Ekco]

decent take

My problem with Trek is... like OG Trek with episodes with the Klingons and Romulans and they're ackchyually talking about the Cold War, that's legit as fuck and cool and served a real purpose for the audience in helping deal with the geopolitical realities of the day

TNG episode writers were like naive in ways only that older generation could be, and the random episodes where some real shit was discussed were often written by a guest writer

Like the first Barclay episode and creator of the character, was written by a woman named Sally Caves who did it as a "satirical depiction of Trekkies and their excessive obsession with imaginary characters." it's the episode where Barclay recreates female crew members in the holodeck to deal with his social anxiety and shyness, get's caught and the episode deals with the female crew perspective on being violated and he fights Riker iirc idk it's been a min since i actually watched it, butt it's super hamfisted and isn't a well regarded episode but the writer had something to actually say and it's still relevant 30 w/e years later where most of the TNG episodes with the "obviously we're going to do the right thing here because we're good people episodes and every problem is very black and white good vs evil" just aren't

idk, just had to shitpost about TNG holodeck episodes

the tl;dr is
TNG is garbage
DS9 is a little better
and Babylon 5 is actually a good show.

come at me.
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[shovelquest]

Fund this whole History Channel show that is made with AI. No more special effects crews, just the producers and an intern.

https://www.history.com/shows/life-after-people/articles/life-after-people-insider-interview-with-executive-producer-and-show-runner-yoshi-stone

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[Reiwa]

Fund this whole History Channel show that is made with AI. No more special effects crews, just the producers and an intern.

https://www.history.com/shows/life-after-people/articles/life-after-people-insider-interview-with-executive-producer-and-show-runner-yoshi-stone

KBz0_NcZYKc

reboot. I used to lovewatch that show in the before time.

https://i.imgur.com/OeQlPqv.png

[shovelquest]

you vill bbq ze bugz zat look like hambugerz through your apple eyes.

https://x.com/shitposts_mp4/status/1948526112054661345

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[shovelquest]

"AI art sucks!"

https://i.imgur.com/DhrP4RB.png

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[Ekco]

reboot. I used to lovewatch that show in the before time.

https://i.imgur.com/OeQlPqv.png

idk which show in 2009 this is referencing

but i do know which reboot needs a reboot

https://i.imgur.com/87kcSxi.jpeg

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Oh joy.

#progress

[Ekco]

i didn't look into this one yet butt, it's usually "prompt hacking" to get a LLM to respond like that, we won't get real hilarious, out of the box LLM fuck ups like that again until they drop a new model, GPT-4.5 is 6 months old now

i don't remember if Grok doing the hitler shit was from a update or "hack" either, but that was recently.

i had that article queued up in my "make post" folder though lol
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[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Don’t think it’s AI

[Ekco]

Don’t think it’s AI

https://www.hipstersofthecoast.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/1.Art-w-artist-1.jpg

apparently not. anybody who draws drizzt is cool n my book.

source:Tyler_Jacobson
https://www.tylerjacobsonart.com/

edit: oh yeah this dude has literally done covers of DnD books and magic cards, i recognize some of this shit

[shovelquest]

Oh joy.

#progress

Duik.

I speak of revelations because it is happening.

[shovelquest]

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[shovelquest]

Ai accelerationists want Universe Extreme Wealth.

Ai decelerations want Universe Basic Income.

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[shovelquest]

I love how ironic its the bible freaks that are milking satans tool on youtube :D Also this is coming for you Duik! No escape!

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[Duik]

Revel in the fact god will take you in and give succor to your shortcomings as a human.
Hoping and enjoying the fact I (and many others) in your (not so humble...) opinion will writhe in constant agony and torment in a carefully chosen layer of hell.

I think it is a good thing you found a way to act nice. Having to follow gods word has helped you to act against your obvious baser aspects of your personality.

Keep up the good work. And I forgive you your failures.

[Ekco]

wish i put more skill points into theology so i could shitpost properly on this topic.

[shovelquest]

Revel in the fact god will take you in and give succor to your shortcomings as a human.
Hoping and enjoying the fact I (and many others) in your (not so humble...) opinion will writhe in constant agony and torment in a carefully chosen layer of hell.

I think it is a good thing you found a way to act nice. Having to follow gods word has helped you to act against your obvious baser aspects of your personality.

Keep up the good work. And I forgive you your failures.

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[NopeNopeNopeNope]

..

[Ekco]

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ai stuff at 4:00 to fit on the huge sphere is kinda neat, hope they do this for all the movies

[Ekco]

working on that Prompt-fu

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