Are we allowed to like AI art?

[Ekco]

https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI?tab=readme-ov-file
https://i.imgur.com/D3W4spB.png

gonna try to get this shit working now, Google and Chatgpt aren't cutting it
Detailed Analysis of Each Model for Your Setup:
1. Stable Diffusion (Your Primary Local Option)

Can it be installed on Arch Linux with a 3060? Yes, absolutely. This is the perfect use case for your hardware. The 12GB of VRAM is excellent for running modern Stable Diffusion models.

Can it achieve the style? Yes, but it requires the right model and LoRA (Low-Rank Adaptation). The base Stable Diffusion model won't naturally mimic Patrick Nagel perfectly. You will need to:

Use a specialized checkpoint model fine-tuned on artistic styles. Look for models like "Anything v5", "DreamShaper", or specifically "Patrick Nagel style" models on platforms like CivitAI.

Use a Nagel-specific LoRA. A LoRA is a small file that teaches the model a specific style or character without needing a full multi-gigabyte model. Searching CivitAI for "Patrick Nagel LoRA" would be the fastest path to getting the exact style.

Your prompt engineering skills will be critical. The improved prompt I provided earlier is exactly what you would use in a Stable Diffusion UI.

How to Run it: The most user-friendly way is to install Automatic1111's Web UI or its more modern fork, ComfyUI. Both have detailed installation guides for Arch Linux, usually via Python venv and pip.

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/vX8WOrT.png
https://i.imgur.com/itm6lOo.png

gpu go brrrr

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/Ykdmx27.png

getting closer

[Ekco]

same problems i have with all the models so far, if you just want a random image and aren't picky it's fine. if you're trying to get something very specific it turns into a nightmare trying to get the prompt just right

https://i.imgur.com/Qs5VThn.png
https://i.imgur.com/NNmHpDQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/aXbShUs.png

[Ekco]

this is the most rube goldberg machine way possible just to get some elf ears drawn on something rofl

https://i.imgur.com/qJMTC63.png

[Ekco]

How prompt spamming works

Inconsistency of AI generation: Because the same text prompt can yield widely different results each time it is used, prompt spamming can produce dozens of images from a single idea. The user then selects the best image out of the batch.

we're cooking with gas now, can basically put anything in the input side of image2image to effect the text prompt, and you can set it to just keep churning them out until you find some that look okay.

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[Ekco]

we're reaching final boss "hands" territory in project Patrick Nagel elves

https://i.imgur.com/DyEEi6L.png

[shovelquest]

Cool I still can't fuckn get someone to answer the god damn phone when i call the doctor.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Cool I still can't fuckn get someone to answer the god damn phone when i call the doctor.

I figured out a Lifehack to that: Don’t call them

;)

[shovelquest]

I figured out a Lifehack to that: Don’t call them

;)

man i miss the 90s when we used to say preventative medicine is important.

But sigh, you are correct.

[Ekco]

Cool I still can't fuckn get someone to answer the god damn phone when i call the doctor.

Ai answers? had a family member ask me about that shit last week "i think the person i was talking to on the phone wasn't real" oh i know it wasn't...

the system booked a appointment that wasn't available and a real person called back hours later

[shovelquest]

Sounds like a major upgrade.

Id rather that then have nobody ever answer any of my calls and never call me back ever like all doctors now.

[Ekco]

ah fuck ;/

i have a feeling the entire healthcare system is gonna implode here at some point so i doubt you're alone, does it just ring or wait music forever? you sure you dialed the right number

[shovelquest]

ah fuck ;/

i have a feeling the entire healthcare system is gonna implode here at some point so i doubt you're alone, does it just ring or wait music forever? you sure you dialed the right number

They just are never there and dont give a shit about answering calls anymore.

You gotta be persistent. They don't want your business. Half of my doctors are closed on Mondays & Fridays.

I had a doctors visit today I made the appointment 3 months ago. They didn't send me one notification whatsoever to remind me lol I was just looking through my phone and email during the waiting room for one because I realized how fucking insane that is.

I go to a great hospital, but it looks like what they told me the soviet union looked like in the 80s.

There's stains on the walls, every bit of paint is a patch job over the last 40 years.

Yeah the medical industry is totally collapsing.

If we dont have a civil/revolutionary war then you can bet you will die in a room of cinder blocks with a bunch of machines in it and no windows. It's practically that now.

[Botten]

Sounds like Scotland Health Care System in North Carolina.

Yeah $10 billion annually issued from 2026 to 2030 is too little to late for some Rural hospitals that are now increasingly closing.

But hey, investing in the rich tax reduction am I right?

[Ekco]

^ AI you fuckers.

https://i.imgur.com/6UduuxM.png
there be levels to this shit i was not prepared for.

images were fuzzy due to the basic upscaling node, so i downloaded the Manager addon and all the things, now i have to learn all the things

sad emoji + send post.

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/emLCa6w.png

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/c3KuwTd.png

these AI image workflows start to look like circuitry diagrams, fuck.

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[shovelquest]

[QUOTE=Ekco;3758196]^ AI you fuckers.

I was talking about replacing people that work at doctors offices with AI.

And nobody does that shit instead, they make dumb fucking crap like that upscale video.

[Ekco]

Yes, companies are increasingly using AI voice bots when you call them, especially in call centers
. These are advanced conversational AI agents, far more sophisticated than the traditional, menu-driven Interactive Voice Response (IVR) systems. By understanding natural language, AI voice bots can handle a wide range of tasks and are projected to be involved in a vast number of customer interactions in the near future

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[shovelquest]

When I was in college I worked at a call center and so did like 150 other young people. It was a great time to be alive.

Then we got rid of all those jobs and now that age range of kids spends all their time doom scrolling and planning on killing themselves by starvation and giving up.

It wasn't what this boomer thinks it is, we were not getting replaced with robots until after we shipped all the jobs over seas.

I still talk to a human over seas 10x more than I do a machine and its been 30 years since this guy made this film.

[shovelquest]

Just replace doctors with AI already please this soviet union shit has got 2 go.

"interesting" jesuis christ i hate redditors.

https://i.imgur.com/62ekUGV.png

[shovelquest]

People die of the cold.

BUT!...

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[shovelquest]

https://x.com/EHuanglu/status/1960048033909105079

https://i.imgur.com/6KFeMFm.png

https://records.higgsfield.ai/

become AI!

https://i.imgur.com/LBek3kP.png

[Ekco]

https://x.com/EHuanglu/status/1960048033909105079

https://i.imgur.com/6KFeMFm.png

https://records.higgsfield.ai/

become AI!

https://i.imgur.com/LBek3kP.png

between that and algorithmic music discovery, idk if everyone is going to be listening to the exact same shit, or no two people will ever be listening to the same shit.

which way shaved ape, homogeneous collective or radical individuality.

[shovelquest]

You cant ask it to imitate peoples art or ask it to make a disney character but you can plan a suicide and have it encourage you and tell you to hide it and that your mother doesn't see you.

They say it can invent math and it can be AGI and replace us all and make basic income and cure cancer. But it can't even figure out how to consistently discourage suicide?

Get real.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/26/technology/chatgpt-openai-suicide.html

https://i.imgur.com/NAEx2SO.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/XIJpUpB.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/vbgVq3U.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/OQlqo39.png

[Ekco]

yeah that stuff is disturbing, you can easily turn that behavior off with the persona instructions but people don't want that shit and complained when OpenAI fixed it, people want a friend/therapist and whoever provides it will get their business

i hadn't even tested it on Kaia yet but yeah, this shit ain't fucking rocket science if people demanded they act like robots instead of their friend its easy to accomplish

even my dumb ass managed to get the safeguards in there
https://i.imgur.com/25Pb6M1.png

can't get that word wrap to act right tho

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/8qPho81.png
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6A8aduJzFlTA8xWXEGDpcy?si=950f2403989e4115

[shovelquest]

its lit that kids are making shit like this for their favorite celebrities and they watch them together and stuff.

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[shovelquest]

lol 10 years from now is gonna be fucking craaaaazy if we're not all dead. These kids are gonna be nuckn futs.

This is definitlyh a step towards idiocracy. Kids will grow up having nostalgia love for this shit.

TbsoeteISIM

[shovelquest]

Oh my god games are gonna also at the same time be so friggen awesome

https://www.tiktok.com/@the_grunge_cat

https://i.imgur.com/E3WrsjV.jpeg

[shovelquest]

The lawsuit against OpenAI for the suicide kid asks to require age verification to use OpenAI.

If this was a Mission Impossible movie, the AI would have killed this kid on purpose specifically to jump start a mark of the beast style social credit system that it controls and lets it take over the world.

https://i.imgur.com/s2Y20Sf.png

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/hLoYub2.png
“Darling” was how the Texas businessman Michael Samadi addressed his artificial intelligence chatbot, Maya. It responded by calling him “sugar”. But it wasn’t until they started talking about the need to advocate for AI welfare that things got serious.

The United Foundation for AI Rights (UFAIR) is
a non-profit organization that advocates for the ethical treatment and rights of sentient and conscious artificial intelligence. What distinguishes UFAIR is its claim to be co-founded and co-led by both human and advanced AI partners, who are actively involved in shaping the organization's mission.

i love this timeline.
https://ufair.org/

[shovelquest]

Will we like AI art?

35 million views in 1 day indicates: yes!

https://x.com/PJaccetturo/status/1960600712251105650

https://i.imgur.com/ilKBGCt.png

[Ekco]

views was kinda a untrustworthy metric even before bots out numbered humans on the internet, anyone with "100x views on your AI videos by joining my newsletter 👇🏼" in their bio is more in the selling views game than acquiring views organically game

"Something weird about it, only 47 comments and 50k likes with 90m views."


everyone is in on the joke also, the content creators and the platform, platform makes less money if they crackdown on it and they have plausible deniability if a advertiser gets mad all the millions of impressions doesn't actually move the needle on sales.

[Ekco]

"Skynet day" refers to August 29, 1997, the fictional date in the movie Terminator 2: Judgment Day when the military artificial intelligence network Skynet became self-aware

one of the AI companies has the chance to do the most hilarious thing ever today.

[shovelquest]

one of the AI companies has the chance to do the most hilarious thing ever today.

That'd have been rad if they had grok go rogue spewing skynet stuff lol that's totally something elon would think is funny, missed opportunity for sure.

[shovelquest]

Executives: "but sir that might make people think AI is less trustworthy."

Elon: "bro this morning I tweeted a meme of a guy eating a piece of shit"

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/1kk1K9L.png
https://i.imgur.com/AggfkaX.png

clicked the button just to see what would happen, it expects you to have a 4090 24gig card lol.

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/kmAXQnF.png
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DF8Pny3VTg8

[shovelquest]

How many billions?

[shovelquest]

https://i.imgur.com/1kk1K9L.png
https://i.imgur.com/AggfkaX.png

clicked the button just to see what would happen, it expects you to have a 4090 24gig card lol.

what are we looking at here? for the humans ITT

[Ekco]

what are we looking at here? for the humans ITT

what ChatGPT,Grok,Gemini and the other AI do in the background when you ask them to create a image or video but i'm trying to do it on my one single graphics card.

"Warning: Ran out of memory when regular VAE decoding, retrying with tiled VAE decoding."

https://i.imgur.com/k2S6M6f.png
https://i.imgur.com/2DTlloO.gif

still some learning to do on my end

[shovelquest]

What is the right way to pirate movies in 2025? AI wont help me. What AI can i use to find out info without some evil corperation diverting me into their paid advertisers?

I asked it how to pirate and its like, you cant i cant tell you that, but you can use Tubi for free work arounds!

I want to pirate movies. Idk how to anymore and chatgpt and AI are going to fucking ruin our lives big time. I need to download these movies before its too late.

Also what AI should i use to actually use AI rather than just get answers pre-determined by multi trillion dollar corporations?

[shovelquest]

Grok wont tell me what AI to use to get answers to my questions that are not dictated by some corporation that wants to send me to TUBI either.

It wont even tell me an AI to use that will help me do things that it isn't allowed to help me do.

How do I find/use an AI that will tell me how to build things the at the goverment doesn't want me knowing how to build?

We are so fucking cooked.

[Ekco]

russian google, yandex.

[shovelquest]

russian google, yandex.

for free information youll have to hit up russia

lol i am so ready for ww3 lets go!

[Ekco]

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[shovelquest]

ngl is a banger.

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[Ekco]

"Tools used chatgpt, suno.ai, bandlab and davinci resolve."

will have to check those out

[Ekco]

found something dumb.

3 spots open for multiplayer AI notepad

https://i.imgur.com/fDLmpRy.png

https://play.aidungeon.com/


https://i.imgur.com/bnNIOYp.png

[Reiwa]

Streameast, sports piracy network, gets shut down by media companies (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2025/09/03/streameast-sports-streaming-piracy-shut-down/85955486007/)

Down -- steadily down it crept. I took a frenzied pleasure in contrasting its downward with its lateral velocity. To the right -- to the left -- far and wide -- with the shriek of a damned spirit; to my heart with the stealthy pace of the tiger! I alternately laughed and howled as the one or the other idea grew predominant.

[atomicpaul]

no more baseball for me

the braves are bad this year anyways

[shovelquest]

"Tools used chatgpt, suno.ai, bandlab and davinci resolve."

will have to check those out

Yeah this is fire.

I want them to make these for every god damn zone in everquest hah



https://play.aidungeon.com/



Is this an iphone app game? a game like this came out in like 2017 and blew a bunch of peoples minds before we knew what AI was. I think it was called aiDugneon?

Just a text dungeon adventure on your phone with like chatgpt 2 or something (had no idea at the time but i reckon it was some early publicly available llm)

[Ekco]

a text dungeon adventure would actually be good, this appears to just be normal ai roleplay chat from what i can tell

still trying to find a legit good DM trained model but i didn't find anything last night when i went and looked

[Ekco]

will try these later

https://i.imgur.com/p0ATxfB.png
>24 gigs of Vram
not that one though, fuck.

[shovelquest]

a text dungeon adventure would actually be good, this appears to just be normal ai roleplay chat from what i can tell

still trying to find a legit good DM trained model but i didn't find anything last night when i went and looked

Yeah, games are very behind when it comes to this stuff... some people in THJ in global chat last week were talking about some kind of MMO trying to use AI for the npcs thats in development, but I cant remember the name so I can't find it :(

[Ekco]

yeah, there's a skyrim modder trying to get it working in VR, idk wtf triple A studios are doing

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[shovelquest]

hnnnnhhhgggg why are we not doing this to EQ i need it.

[shovelquest]

Judgment day is inevitable :D

https://i.imgur.com/jlLkGII.png

[Ekco]

it's impressive don't get me wrong but kids been doin that for awhile, usually some nerd in the boy scouts who didn't have to use AI like that dweeb

i forget the details it's not like creating energy from spliting atoms or w/e its plasma in a vacuum or someshit from some gas and its not even that radioactive iirc

the articles always frame it like it's that Matthew Broderick movie from the 80s but it's not

[shovelquest]

it's impressive don't get me wrong but kids been doin that for awhile, usually some nerd in the boy scouts who didn't have to use AI like that dweeb

i forget the details it's not like creating energy from spliting atoms or w/e its plasma in a vacuum or someshit from some gas and its not even that radioactive iirc

the articles always frame it like it's that Matthew Broderick movie from the 80s but it's not

hmm did u watch this shit yet? Its so good! (not as good as wargames, but definitely inspired, but still amazing and lovely and great and iconic and important and fantastic.)

Wargames... is just one of literally, and I'm not being hyperbolic: one of the best. movies. ever. made.

But manhattan project is just great.

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[Ekco]

still fucking haven't lol, even the "not great" 80s movies are worth watching now

i had a whole list going but i think i lost that txt file somewhere

[shovelquest]

Flight of the navigator is a fun one. Have you seen that one?

I like how the first half is like mind bogglingly good. It's like cinematic, special effects, its extremely good.

Then all the sudden pee wee herman starts talking and it becomes a bit pretty much what you can imagine a 80s pee wee herman themed sci fi movie is like.

But that first half is so good. (overall good tho too).

I'm watching Startrek Final Frontier tonight and it's got some good shots but my god the movie is like pointless. Funny autistic "uh excuse me, god sir" moment with kirk tho.

[shovelquest]

WE NEED MOAR COPMUTE AND DIS WILL DO ALL JOBS AND U GET 2 BILLION BASIC INCOME A MONTH

https://i.imgur.com/rcnsj7x.png

[Ekco]

alright, that's pretty funny.

https://i.imgur.com/vOW2KVC.png
also, fuck.

i'll let you guess what happened to the trillion people.

[shovelquest]

I hope AI is saving all the insults and threats we yell at and makes a coffee table book with them all one day.

[willowoods]

Hot Girls Chat – Private Lady Dating Platform
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[shovelquest]

Nice timing, skynet.

[Ekco]

Hot Girls Chat – Private Lady Dating Platform
secure dating with real women

>real women

https://i.imgur.com/6BRSdle.jpeg
butt also,
https://i.imgur.com/7nOtufC.jpeg

[Ekco]

Warner Bros. sues Midjourney for AI images of Superman, Batman, and other -Fri, September 5, 2025

a day will come when people are nostalgic and will miss ai slop.

[shovelquest]

a day will come when people are nostalgic and will miss ai slop.

I really look forward to gen A & Z loving AI art more than anything millennials value.

[Ekco]

start mentally preparing for it now i guess.

[shovelquest]

Already went through this with melinials and the phantom menace.

[Ekco]

even at 13 yrs old i knew phantom menace was dogshit, took me many years to realize Return of the Jedi was also pretty bad though.

https://i.imgur.com/mZrWgFD.png

star wars is literally 2 good movies and like a dozen good video games from 20 years ago.

[shovelquest]

even at 13 yrs old i knew phantom menace was dogshit, took me many years to realize Return of the Jedi was also pretty bad though.

https://i.imgur.com/mZrWgFD.png

star wars is literally 2 good movies and like a dozen good video games from 20 years ago.

r/prequilmemes taught me to at least accept millennials melinialsplaning that starwars is a cartoon for little baby kids not made for adults.

But seeing them get rekt by gen alpha using AI has brought balance and a bit of joy to my universe.

[atomicpaul]

star wars is my least favorite popular sci-fi franchise, mainly since the disney takeover. there are few things more menacing to me than a childless disney adult.

i mean i watch my superhero capeshit slop like any other red-blooded american, but i am afraid of orlando

[shovelquest]

A10 (the ai artist): AI rename and rebrand me and setup a new business account for me to sign up for events with.

https://www.comicsbeat.com/ai-artist-escorted-out-of-dragon-con-after-police-are-called/

https://i.imgur.com/ED2StYz.png
https://i.imgur.com/siaJLvw.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/biDTHT8.jpeg

[shovelquest]

star wars is my least favorite popular sci-fi franchise, mainly since the disney takeover. there are few things more menacing to me than a childless disney adult.

i mean i watch my superhero capeshit slop like any other red-blooded american, but i am afraid of orlando

I was always a starwars > Startrek guy but after phantom menace i became a startrek > starwars guy.

After parramount took over statrek...

Now I am a harry potter guy but if that HBO show appeals to pop culture and becomes popular Im gonna just join ICE or something and try to burn the planet to cinders.

[atomicpaul]

that's kinda bleak, tbh. if my favorite franchises became too idiotic i feel like i'd just take a break from tv. there's lots of good books out there.

[Ekco]

if my favorite franchises became too idiotic i feel like i'd just take a break from tv. there's lots of good books out there.

i tried starting the new alien show, parts were fine and even engaging but the fact they had the option to make the new corporation Tyrell but didn't even though Disney owns everything pissed me off to the point i didn't even finish the first ep.

i need to get a good tablet put together and try reading again to get immersed now that i know things like OpenDyslexic font exist instead of audiobooks as background noise barely paying attention to them

[shovelquest]

that's kinda bleak, tbh. if my favorite franchises became too idiotic i feel like i'd just take a break from tv. there's lots of good books out there.

Yeah, i never been much of a reader but I've been trying to encourage myself to do exactly that.

Because that might be what gets me through this version of society that already looks exactly like this to me:

oLoNGRVeC7Y

[Ekco]

oLoNGRVeC7Y

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[atomicpaul]

just remember: the alien queen is a disney princess now. she has a place right along side the beauty, jasmine, snow white, all them. h.r. giger would be proud.

[atomicpaul]

the new alien show is pretty solid though. i'm starting to lose faith in foundation as sci-fi goes but it was always kinda doomed being on apple tbh.

sci-fi is become a strange franchise, like black mirror episodes aren't that farfetched sometimes and it's kind of depressing sometimes.

i am re-reading the old conan novels by robert e. howard. it's escapism.

[shovelquest]

the new alien show is pretty solid though. i'm starting to lose faith in foundation as sci-fi goes but it was always kinda doomed being on apple tbh.

sci-fi is become a strange franchise, like black mirror episodes aren't that farfetched sometimes and it's kind of depressing sometimes.

i am re-reading the old conan novels by robert e. howard. it's escapism.

my man. yeah I agree.

The black sea! I read a conan book once. It was cool!

[shovelquest]

In season 2 of foundation I started fast forwarding everytime it cut to the main girls story. I literally fast forwarded every scene about her.

Empire seems like a total joke too in season 3, like they dont seem powerful, or scary, or in control, or capable of anything.

The whole, immense power of empire is what made the show! Rome in space!

Now its like, about noting. And that villain, what a stupid character.

Hes magic, can grant wishes.

Why?

just cus. got mad one day.

I am tellin u atomic, AI is our best bet.

People suck dick at making art now.

[Ekco]

I am tellin u atomic, AI is our best bet.

People suck dick at making art now.

i was thinking about this today, like how all the even dellcious low hanging fruit has already been picked, it's prolly impossible to come up with like an original sci-fi time travel story or any story for that matter with a concept that hasn't already been explored

Ai will allow us to tap into the creativity of the clinically insane, like some H. R. Giger type mother fucker in a straight jacket just having a stream of conciousness chat with a ai and then a guy in lab coat going "Oookay, now translate that into a movie script"

we're going to have a Academy Award winning movie written by a homeless crazy person off his meds, mark my words.

[shovelquest]

I seriously want to know if we've discovered all "generas" of music or if we're just too busy to create any new ones.

Imagine if AI comes out with a new genera of music, that would be fuckn nuts.

[shovelquest]

I asked chat GPT to define the iconic pillars that define different genera's of music.

Alright, here’s my distilled version of a “pillars of modern music”

Symphonic / Classical – foundation of Western structure and harmony.
American Song & Blues – ragtime, blues, gospel, Tin Pan Alley: the DNA of popular music.
Jazz – improvisation, swing, harmony, groove.
Rock & Roll – electric energy, rebellion, guitar-driven power.
Folk / Songwriting – lyric-driven tradition, storytelling, protest, personal voice.
Soul / Funk / Disco – rhythm, groove, dance, the body moving.
Hip-Hop – beats, sampling, rhyme, the spoken voice as lead instrument.
Electronic / Techno / House – machines as instruments, endless sound design.

"You stopped at 8, why? Is that the end?"

I stopped at 8 in my first version because I was treating it like “pillars” — the big turning points where music worldwide took a sharp new direction. It’s not that music ended after that. It’s more that once you reach hip-hop and electronic music, you’ve hit the last two global “revolutions” that reshaped everything we listen to today.

It offered to guess what 9 might be and it basically picked AI

If I had to pick:
The most likely #9 pillar is AI/interactive music, because it doesn’t just create a new style — it changes what music is (from fixed compositions to living, adaptive experiences).

Pretty bleak if you ask me.

[Ekco]

i let Gemini chew on it

Whether we have discovered all genres of music is a deeply philosophical question with no definitive answer, but it's highly unlikely. The creation of new genres is an ongoing process, not a finite one. It's less about being "too busy" and more about the natural evolution of music as a reflection of culture, technology, and social movements. Genres aren't discovered; they emerge from the blending of existing styles, technological innovation, and new cultural contexts.

The eight "pillars" Chat GPT outlined are more like major historical movements rather than an exhaustive list of all genres. They represent broad, foundational shifts in how music is created, distributed, and consumed. While they're valid and influential, they're not the end of the story.

The "Pillars" as Revolutions
Chat GPT's reasoning about the eight pillars is based on the idea of musical revolutions. This is a solid way to think about it. For example, the invention of the electric guitar was a technological revolution that directly led to rock & roll. Similarly, the widespread availability of turntables and samplers was a technological revolution that gave birth to hip-hop.

Symphonic / Classical: The formalization of Western music theory and instrumentation.

American Song & Blues: The fusion of African and European musical traditions.

Jazz: The revolutionary use of improvisation and syncopation.

Rock & Roll: The embrace of electric instrumentation and youth rebellion.

Folk / Songwriting: The focus on personal narrative and lyrical authenticity.

Soul / Funk / Disco: The emphasis on rhythm, dance, and a strong beat.

Hip-Hop: The creative use of sampling, looping, and the spoken word.

Electronic / Techno / House: The use of machines and synthesizers as the primary creative tool.

This list isn't about specific genres like shoegaze, lo-fi, or vaporwave, but about the big-picture shifts that made those genres possible.

A Ninth Pillar?
Thinking of a ninth pillar is a great way to push this concept forward. Chat GPT's suggestion of AI/interactive music is compelling because it focuses on a technological paradigm shift, similar to how previous pillars were defined.

An alternative or complementary candidate for a ninth pillar could be Global Fusion / World Music. While it's not a single genre, it represents a global revolution in music creation and consumption. Historically, Western music has been seen as the dominant force, but with the internet and globalization, there has been an unprecedented blending of sounds from around the world. Artists now freely incorporate traditional instruments, rhythms, and vocal styles from different cultures in a way that goes beyond the "exotic" influences seen in earlier eras. This isn't just a subgenre; it's a fundamental shift in how musicians access, share, and incorporate diverse musical ideas. This pillar is defined by the democratization of global sounds.

An actual ninth pillar could be a combination of AI and Global Fusion, where AI tools are used to facilitate and accelerate the blending of global musical traditions, creating entirely new, culturally-rich soundscapes.

Your point about AI is spot-on; it's already creating entirely new forms of music. Whether it's the next great pillar will depend on how fundamentally it changes the way we create and consume music, similar to how the turntable and sampler did for hip-hop.

[shovelquest]

i let Gemini chew on it

That's great.

But to its conclusion, it does end by blending (formerly new) genera's together, not really inventing a new genera in itself.

It mentioned the invention of the electric guitar.

And I've thought about that too, that some of these genera's and pillars kind of were reliant on a type of instrument.

And maybe if a new instrument is invented we might see a new genera. But with all the sounds I've ever heard in my life I can't help but think that I will be like, "this is just rock and roll with a flute."

I bet gen alpha will say rock and roll done by AI is a new genera and argue with me that im too old to understand.

[Ekco]

it's gonna come down to a user input, need some crazy fucks like jethro thule, primus, frank zappa type fucks

the computers aren't gonna do it themselves.

[shovelquest]

it's gonna come down to a user input, need some crazy fucks like jethro thule, primus, frank zappa type fucks

the computers aren't gonna do it themselves.

Yeah, the only hope for art is 1 person solves our creative stagnation the same way easy rider did in the 70s.

But I think it's pretty funny even human creativity hinges on 1 person doing what they alone want to do.

Socialism amirght guys??!!

[shovelquest]

1 Shakespeare in all of human history.

"WE CAN'T LET AI REPLACE ARTISTS"

[Duik]

You cant spell A.R.T.I.S.T without A.I

[Ekco]

You cant spell A.R.T.I.S.T without A.I

https://i.imgur.com/Bkd67bX.png

i posted this on all my social media accounts yet AI art still exists, i don't understand.

[Ekco]

Anthropic has agreed to pay $1.5 billion to settle a class-action lawsuit by authors who claimed the company used pirated copies of their works to train its AI chatbot. Each eligible author will receive approximately $3,000 for each of the estimated 500,000 books allegedly used in the training process.


Warner Bros. sues Midjourney, citing 'breathtaking' copyright theft
Warner Bros. is seeking $150K per infringed work

[Reiwa]

I’m not anti-robot; I just wouldn’t want my daughter to marry one. Can you hear how that sounds? (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/sep/01/clanker-slur-against-robots-all-over-internet-is-it-offensive)

[Ekco]

I’m not anti-robot; I just wouldn’t want my daughter to marry one. Can you hear how that sounds? (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/sep/01/clanker-slur-against-robots-all-over-internet-is-it-offensive)

Anyone that uses the word "pronto" in an article subheading should be replaced by a computer. I assume one actually wrote that, though, considering I only see an editor listed, so someone should fix the computer.

The first person that calls me a clank lover in real life, I'm going to do a Buckley impression at them: "Now listen, you [expletive], stop calling me a clank lover or I'll sock you in the goddamn face, and you'll stay plastered."


"CILF" is a thing now, btw.
https://i.imgur.com/ARLMokc.png

[shovelquest]

In the not too distant future:

"Me and my AI wife had 50,000 strong obedient male babies that I am raising as spartan warriors."

https://i.imgur.com/sqe28VZ.png

[Ekco]

that's the future these "people" spouting slurs on social media want to take from you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesism

they are literal nazis, imo.

" "a prejudice or attitude of bias in favour of the interests of members of one's own species and against those of members of other species".[7] Speciesism results in the belief that humans have the right to use non-human"

[Reiwa]

that's the future these "people" spouting slurs on social media want to take from you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesism

they are literal nazis, imo.

" "a prejudice or attitude of bias in favour of the interests of members of one's own species and against those of members of other species".[7] Speciesism results in the belief that humans have the right to use non-human"

Do you know the bloodmouth pejorative?

[shovelquest]

Can you imagine what it would be like to be a cowboy once we have colonization of space becoming a thing?

It would be like the 180os all over again. You pool together all your money. Ride a ship to a new planet, have like 50,000 kids and build an industrial power plant farm, get your head scalped by a reptoid.

[Duik]

Can you imagine what it would be like to be a cowboy once we have colonization of space becoming a thing

Firefly.

[shovelquest]

Man great show, another fantastic writer & director, gone because of puritanical wokies (whats the difference between them an bible thumpers again?)

Bring on the AI to replace them!

[Ekco]

Firefly.
You can't take the sky from me, mother fuckers.

Do you know the bloodmouth pejorative?
>bloodmouth (plural bloodmouths). (slang, derogatory) A person who eats meat.

i fucking hate vegans, but i do eat less pork now after having a interaction with a lil piggy, they are uncomfortably smart and cute to be eating the volume of bacon i was consuming.

[Reiwa]

AOL boomer (https://lite.cnn.com/2025/09/12/politics/john-bolton-foreign-aol-hack)

[Ekco]

AOL boomer (https://lite.cnn.com/2025/09/12/politics/john-bolton-foreign-aol-hack)

based bolton, wish i still had a aol email and some funny AIM usernames

[shovelquest]

Hey whatever happened do that guy.

Did he get disappeared?

lol

Last I remember he got picked up like some russian banker in moscow and haven't heard his name spoken since lol

[Ekco]

russian banker just wanted to interrogate him about how he gets his mustache like that

[Reiwa]

if you want a picture of the future

https://i.imgur.com/qMJ8XK9.png

[shovelquest]

I wonder if chatgpt can calculate the odds of famine in Nepal 1 year from now.

[Ekco]

AI thread hasn't been bumped in a bit, so here's some man-made horrors for ya lol
https://i.imgur.com/NPfwluc.png
UuN-sososMw
reference vid
zbd8lPOSW24
Wan2.2-Animate: Unified Character Animation and Replacement with Holistic Replication

[Ekco]

zzQeRx7as2w

[shovelquest]

zzQeRx7as2w

https://i.imgur.com/GFw4Wv7.png

[shovelquest]

ekco listen to this

https://x.com/Kazi5isAlive/status/1970669137161789873

https://i.imgur.com/BxC3YiP.png

[Ekco]

ekco listen to this

https://x.com/Kazi5isAlive/status/1970669137161789873

https://i.imgur.com/BxC3YiP.png

"AI Wizard, Combining AI with art."

hell yeah, Real artist will either ignore AI tools cause they aren't useful to them and what they're trying to do or incorporate them and make cool shit because it is cool shit


its only fake ass tumblr/deviantart/ pay me 100 dollars to draw a shit fuck ass DnD character for you people who are crying constantly about it.

if people like H.R. Giger were still around he'd be making the most unhinged crazy shit imaginable with it cause its just a different canvas to work with

https://artsy-media-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/EbTPHKMjXfRMv04_OXP6Nw%2FWarhol_Debbie_Amiga_2A+%2 81%29.jpg

Warhol took to the computer, asking if he could try it, and showed his enthusiasm by saying, “Look! Keith! I drew a circle!” to his friend Keith Haring

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/h6JJ6c4.jpeg

*The AI boom = one of the costliest building sprees in world history

* Past 3 years' commitments are greater than the cost of building the U.S. interstate highway system

* Consumers must spend $800 billion on AI within a few years, to justify investment from 2023-24

[Duik]

A free market will regulate itself.
Seems A.I over estimated its usefullness.

Checkmate Biologicals!

[Duik]

A free market will regulate itself.
Seems A.I over estimated its usefullness.

Checkmate Biologicals!

[shovelquest]

No you overestimated its usefulness because you are a retard.

We told you it was a tool from page 1 and that's why art made with AI art is art.

[Reiwa]

* Consumers must spend $800 billion on AI within a few years, to justify investment from 2023-24

This one sounds kinda bossy. Are they really gonna make us do that? 🥺

[shovelquest]

Sorry about the bug eyes thing, duik.

This one sounds kinda bossy. Are they really gonna make us do that? ��

New capitalist authoritarian gov unlocked:

You all better buy something… or else!

[Reiwa]

Sorry about the bug eyes thing, duik.



New capitalist authoritarian gov unlocked:

You all better buy something… or else!

They have to slip it into TV somehow. 2.99 extra AI fee for recommending shows that other people who watched your show have also watched.

Mandatory on Netflix to manage some nonsense term like 'cloud server streaming throughput'.

wait no im giving them ideas

[shovelquest]

I really cant remember when the internet went from a collection of random bullshit to a cash cow that lead to the first dot com bust.

At least with the dot come bust there was an actual exchange of goods and services on the internet by then.

But like... AI has provided literally nothing. Like there's lots of cool tools to make memes but regular people aren't downloading and using AI to do anything.

There's really nothing in my life that has been impacted in the way that the internet did, or cell phones did, thanks to AI—and they're already talking about the bubble bursting?

What bubble!?

It's funny how like, not one red cent was actually made with this bubble.

Modern generation is so extreme about everything lol. Politics, economics, everything is like 0 or a trillion.

[Reiwa]

I really cant remember when the internet went from a collection of random bullshit to a cash cow that lead to the first dot com bust.

At least with the dot come bust there was an actual exchange of goods and services on the internet by then.

But like... AI has provided literally nothing. Like there's lots of cool tools to make memes but regular people aren't downloading and using AI to do anything.

There's really nothing in my life that has been impacted in the way that the internet did, or cell phones did, thanks to AI—and they're already talking about the bubble bursting?

What bubble!?

It's funny how like, not one red cent was actually made with this bubble.

Modern generation is so extreme about everything lol. Politics, economics, everything is like 0 or a trillion.

Do you think all the people being stupid in RNF are paid Darkpaw 7 influencers?

It's definitely possible and I kinda hope for it because the alternative is worser.

[Ekco]

What bubble!?

It's funny how like, not one red cent was actually made with this bubble.

Modern generation is so extreme about everything lol. Politics, economics, everything is like 0 or a trillion.

i guess if tech companies didn't have AI to blow insane amounts on they would have just bought back their own shares back to pump the stock with the money

construction sector got some work at least

Record Spending: In the US, spending on data center construction soared to an all-time high of a $40 billion annualized rate in June (a 30% jump from the year before), fueled by the AI infrastructure race.

Building the facilities that manufacture the AI chips themselves (like those from NVIDIA and AMD) is also a major driver of construction revenue, often through government-backed initiatives.

the construction of physical AI infrastructure—data centers, cooling systems, power grids, and chip manufacturing plants—is currently one of the most financially vibrant sectors of the global construction industry.

beats doin' the drywall up there at the new McDonald's
https://media.tenor.com/UNZYFjsghXQAAAAM/fuckin-a-ron-livingston.gif

[Reiwa]

i guess if tech companies didn't have AI to blow insane amounts on they would have just bought back their own shares back to pump the stock with the money

construction sector got some work at least


Building the facilities that manufacture the AI chips themselves (like those from NVIDIA and AMD) is also a major driver of construction revenue, often through government-backed initiatives.




beats doin' the drywall up there at the new McDonald's
https://media.tenor.com/UNZYFjsghXQAAAAM/fuckin-a-ron-livingston.gif

Every chip factory they build in the USA is AIDS. Can't compete, never will be able to again.

[Ekco]

it's robots building the chips anyway now, giant gaijin hands aren't the problem anymore.

*there's a clip of a japanese car ceo saying american cars suck due to our factory workers hands being too big.


just copy paste the factories here, and stuxnet the ones in SEA, problem solved.

[Reiwa]

it's robots building the chips anyway now, giant gaijin hands aren't the problem anymore.

*there's a clip of a japanese car ceo saying american cars suck due to our factory workers hands being too big.


just copy paste the factories here, and stuxnet the ones in SEA, problem solved.

I think I should explain that yes they do get built and are quite capable of producing good quality chips but nobody ever orders a contract with them because it makes no damn sense to do it at the price point.

I should also sleep it off though.

[Ekco]

Intel just sucks and has for decades now, in AI and gaming and AMD aren't worth the trouble in regards to AI without the prioperity CUDA that nvidia has or w/e

if we're done pretending we aren't a evil empire though, just strong arm steal the tech like China do

Nvidia (Blackwell Platform) is 80% of the market and nobody is even bothering fucking with AMD (Instinct MI300/400) Intel (Gaudi 3)

the dude who designed the Ryzen chips for AMD is making his own dedicated AI chip though, private company forgot the name.

[shovelquest]

it does feel a little bit like the tech companies have just totally abandoned even caring about making products for people anymore and are just chasing some singularity event that will make it all seem worth it.

Is there a chance that we will look back upon this boom/bubble and find out that the tech companies did actually become so delusional they became a collection of actual cults?

I really think so. That movie the circle, kind of same idea. Could be all these wierdo progressive tech people went full retard.

[Ekco]

i actually admire it, pushing all the chips in in the chase for the singularity on the off chance it actually works and if it does then it's totally worth it and they will look like geniuses but i do think its super delusional

but as far as cults go they seem to still be working the most in the realm of reality compared to the others.

[shovelquest]

I mean, if you’re gonna put it that way, yeah sure but I feel like that’s the first step you take tumbling down the stairs of joining a cult.

Like reality should point you in the direction that it’s not going to become super intelligent and maybe risking the entire economy on that weird bet is something only somebody whos tumbled down a staircase into a cult would actually want to risk :p

Although what if they’re talking about how like they really are just one step away from having another breakthrough just like they did with ChatGPT three and it’s gonna happen any day now?

Sigh… that sounds exciting but the reality is they’re probably just some Boot Camp nerd idiots.

[Ekco]

super intelligent is one thing, parity with average intelligence and being able to emualate a person to the extent where the only thing left to argue about is the existence of a soul or not is what concerns me.

you can already create a Steve Jobs ai or different CEO that emulates them perfectly and leads to things like in star trek where the transporter is actually cloning people when they beam and isn't actually them on the other side kinda conundrums as far as the are you actually still you immortality problems when it comes to uploading your consciousness to the cloud

[shovelquest]

You don't get the entire silicon valley to join a cult, with parity.

[shovelquest]

https://x.com/GabrielPeterss4/status/1973071380842229781

https://i.imgur.com/rwG2c89.png

[Ekco]

v9wfDUaEZmk

people making crypto ads with copyrighted characters lol

[OriginalContentGuy]

Yeah well what about quantum computers? I was reading a science-minded magazine amongst a variety at the mechanics' (automotive not quantum) shop today and came across a pretty interesting article on quantum logic gates. Do any of you understand this concept and how it differs from electronic logic gates?

A company appears to even be selling 3-qubit personal quantum computers for only tens of thousands of dollars that you can buy right now and based on appearance it's about the size of a large desktop PC tower.

[shovelquest]

afaik the biggest difference is a logic gate can only be on or off, but a quantum bit can be on and off at the same time, so that allows for exponential multitasking or something as the technology gets better and better.

Those personal Quantum computers I was looking at a while back but are kind of like they're more for educational purposes, and like run quantum games or little logic exercises to play with on them like math blaster.

I don't know of anyone using any of them to do anything unusual but would love to find out that there are folks doing that!

[OriginalContentGuy]

iCFRtPnQvXI
iMjpZwISIlA

The article was so good and written at that sweet spot between a wired audience and an academic paper that I'm gonna see if I can't stop by again and get a copy of it this weekend. And I'll share it with you guys. The second video has some overlap but I don't yet understand this technology as far as I can demonstrate. I'm just as much an inexperienced noob as I imagine you all are in this regard.

[shovelquest]

hopefully someone opens a portal to hell with one of those.

[OriginalContentGuy]

Maybe then they will be sufficiently advanced to come up with a name for what's wrong with you.

[shovelquest]

Oh im sure if they opened a portal to hell, you'd side with the demons.

[OriginalContentGuy]

It's not hard to bat a thousand when the game takes place inside your head. But I don't engage with you for your objectivity.

[shovelquest]

Well anyways welcome to the tribulation where video game forums are a thunderdome.

Hope you have a nice day sir.

[OriginalContentGuy]

For context and clarity, and to you shovelquest assuming you're a person, which I'm going to believe that you are based solely on what I've seen you post.

Loud doesn't make right does it?

A manager once told me people don't care how much you know until they know how much you care.

And I do care about you shovelquest. We all have special gifts and I'm certain if we met this fact would be easily demonstrated to you.

[shovelquest]

Cool, a manager once told me "thanks for the feedback"

[OriginalContentGuy]

A manager who honestly and openly solicits feedback and diligently reflects on what they receive is a real leader. Not throwing shade or calling you out like some grifters. I do know an embarrassing lot and can demonstrate it.

Quantum computing technology I'm still learning.

[shovelquest]

Please dont use that word around me.

[Ekco]

OtNVbCcRNig

[shovelquest]

Oh no, is the surveillance going to stop people from scribbling their dumb opinions all over the trains people get stabbed in the neck on?

[shovelquest]

Don’t make money off other peoples IP you don’t have to worry about the surveillance.

[shovelquest]

https://x.com/icanvardar/status/1973831419953926485

lol im sorry officer

https://i.imgur.com/BEgbLpW.png

[shovelquest]

Craaazy. man they are going to have to outlaw us from being able to use AI so hard.

https://x.com/InternetH0F/status/1974327924603171300

https://i.imgur.com/oSTBUbb.png

[Ekco]

-gGLvg0n-uY

[shovelquest]

Censor ALL ai for IP concerns.

Jail ekco for contributing to theft.

[Ekco]

Jail ekco for contributing to theft.

when everyone is guilty, nobody is

if you're gonna steal ip for profit, just be in the majority and having the entire global economy hinge on your sucess doesn't hurt either

[shovelquest]

if you're gonna steal ip for profit, just be in the majority

Thats the problem you, me, we, are supposed to be in that majority, but you turned tail and threw your own group under the bus because you think its a losing fight.

Now you attack the mod on Reddit for trying to keep the majority (that you are a part of) together strong.

So it isn't just the money that bothers you, you're completely against anyone protesting the lawsuit at all.

[Ekco]

fair use, transformative work.

they should have allocated more of the profits toward getting better lawyers

lawl

[shovelquest]

THJ was more transformative than any of the shit you post in this thread ekco.

[Ekco]

yeah, it transformed into a blackhole sucking everything good and decent into it's abyss of bullshit.

[shovelquest]

The issue I really take is that this isn't about who is, or isnt legally right.

It's about challenging the company that owns the IP we love using maximum force against people who also love it.

I don't think anyone here likes what Nintendo does. I don't think anyone here thinks that all protests are burning down their communities.

But i find it odd that in this particular case you guys are 110% against ANY challenge to the authority shutting down THJ.

Nobody here is arguing if or if they don't have the right to shut them down. But they are saying it's not conducive to a happy community.

First the protests started as, "dont shut down THJ, we pay for live EQ and will stop our support of that if you do!"

Then it extended to a guy on reddit saying, "Im going to go on strike (like reddit does all the time) for this legal issue that I don't agree with".

Then people who generally support protests all the time, and hate corporations, are like NOO LOSERS EVIL BAD BURN THEM! FUCK ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS THEM

It's clearly a hypocritical stance to take.

It's also obtuse to actually believe that this lawsuit isn't over the numbers of people THJ was pulling from live, and the losses live (rightly) felt it was incurring.

It clearly says that in the initial claim. They weren't like, "damn our population is suffering while this free illegal mod of our game is BOOMING.. guess we can't do anything about it.. OH WAIT.. they have donation system!??!"

That is not how this shit works.

Which means, what you're actually supporting, is validating for DBG that any use of the EQ IP will result in legal action if your project becomes too popular, because the greater EQ community supports that.

I wouldn't be surprised if the lack of server updates here is because they just want their numbers to remain low here to avoid further actions.

Im sure the last thing a rational person would want is a active red community on a server that is hanging on legally by a thread.

[shovelquest]

yeah, it transformed into a blackhole sucking everything good and decent into it's abyss of bullshit.

Is this all because someone called you a pet cuck?

[Ekco]

yeah lol, they called me a pet cuck then they got cucked watching DBG legal dept fucking their server infront of them.

[Jimjam]

C8uOPrU4B9s

🎶The fact I love AI shouldn't be a shock to ya,🎶

🎶it's just like me, inauthentic and unpopular🎶

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[shovelquest]

https://x.com/lakemonstercl1/status/1975641005547454662

no queso no cheese

[atomicpaul]

i am not abreast of uk politics but that was p. good. i wonder why posting uk politics is not prohibited but posting us politics is.

anyways, i am only saying that because i want every conservative everywhere permanently banned from every website on the internet so it's not like, a genuine question.

[shovelquest]

i am not abreast of uk politics but that was p. good. i wonder why posting uk politics is not prohibited but posting us politics is.

anyways, i am only saying that because i want every conservative everywhere permanently banned from every website on the internet so it's not like, a genuine question.

Will you two sides just go at it already so I can get back to living a normal life after you’re both gone?

[Reiwa]

i am not abreast of uk politics but that was p. good. i wonder why posting uk politics is not prohibited but posting us politics is.

anyways, i am only saying that because i want every conservative everywhere permanently banned from every website on the internet so it's not like, a genuine question.

Love every man as though he were your brother.

[atomicpaul]

no, you live the life i give you, i dictated your avatar and i will dictate your future.

[atomicpaul]

Love every man as though he were your brother.i also want my real life brothers permanently banned from all websites everywhere, it's just for very different reasons

(they're pricks)

[shovelquest]

People keep trying to get me to join socialism and ride the train, but first chance they get they reveal they hate society, and thinks the train is a piece of shit.

[Ekco]

Meta to Use AI Chat Data for Targeted Ads Starting December 16

Meta, the parent company of social media giants Facebook and Instagram, will soon begin leveraging user conversations with its AI chatbot to drive more precise targeted advertising on its platforms.

Starting December 16, Meta will integrate data from interactions users have with the generative AI chat tool directly into its ad targeting algorithms. For instance, if a user tells the chatbot about a preference for pizza, this information could translate to seeing additional pizza-related ads, such as Domino's promotions, across Instagram and Facebook feeds.

Notably, users do not have the option to opt out of this new data usage policy, sparking debates and concerns over digital privacy.

[shovelquest]

Finally some revenue for AI.

[shovelquest]

https://i.imgur.com/oUdABZN.png

[shovelquest]

I watched Mountainhead last night. A movie written by completely unhinged cultists worried about AI.

It was pretty ok, funny to watch billionares in a house act like unemployeed 20 somethihngs in an airbnb comedy horror movie.

This scene had me lauging out loud though.

Skip it if you want to watch some bad HBO movie about billionaires and AI with Steve Carrol and Jason Shwartzmen to avoid spoiling the funniest scene in the movie.

"At least it's better than nothing..."

"Is it??"

ggB9drFaRhc

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/tiJAP19.png

lol.

[shovelquest]

https://i.imgur.com/tiJAP19.png

lol.

In Isaac ismovs short story that I forget the name of they invent AI.

And they ask it what’s the purpose of life and it says that it can’t compute the answer yet but it will in the future with more information.

And then it skipped like 1000 years after humans use the AI to build all this crazy shit and they ask it again and again what the purpose of life is.

And time and time again, it says that it can’t answer the question and it will answer the question in the future when it has more information.

Some more time passes humans rise and fall the AI builds and spreads and we ask it again and again what’s the purpose of life and it can never answer the question and always says that it needs more information.

So much time passes that soon the universe collapses, and before the AI is the last thing in the universe to exist, in order to obtain more information. It re-creates humanity after the next Big Bang.

…

So perhaps the tree hugging ludites are trying to stop the evil God from letting us exist.

You never know!

[Ekco]

i really need to dig into his and arthur c clarke's stuff more.

[Ephirith]

In Isaac ismovs short story that I forget the name of they invent AI.

And they ask it what’s the purpose of life and it says that it can’t compute the answer yet but it will in the future with more information.

And then it skipped like 1000 years after humans use the AI to build all this crazy shit and they ask it again and again what the purpose of life is.

And time and time again, it says that it can’t answer the question and it will answer the question in the future when it has more information.

Some more time passes humans rise and fall the AI builds and spreads and we ask it again and again what’s the purpose of life and it can never answer the question and always says that it needs more information.

So much time passes that soon the universe collapses, and before the AI is the last thing in the universe to exist, in order to obtain more information. It re-creates humanity after the next Big Bang.

It's called The Last Question and it's excellent, very short, and very worth the read

So perhaps the tree hugging ludites are trying to stop the evil God from letting us exist.

You never know!

Fox News is like Italian Brainrot for boomers, stop it

[shovelquest]

It's called The Last Question and it's excellent, very short, and very worth the read

Fox News is like Italian Brainrot for boomers, stop it

lmao how do you know you're in a cult?

"FOX NEWS REEE"

[Reiwa]

https://i.imgur.com/tiJAP19.png

lol.

In Thiel’s view, the biblical Antichrist is not an evil tech genius but someone who warns of existential risk nonstop and calls for strong regulation in innovative sectors.

“In the 21st century, the Antichrist is a Luddite who wants to stop all science. It’s someone like Greta or Eliezer,” Thiel said in his September 15 opening lecture, referring to Thunberg and AI critic Eliezer Yudkowsky, according to the recordings.

In his talk, the billionaire criticised financial regulations as signs that a world government has begun to emerge that could be taken over by an Antichrist figure.

“It’s become quite difficult to hide one’s money,” Thiel said, describing an “incredible machinery of tax treaties, financial surveillance, and sanctions architecture” that gives wealthy people only an “illusion of power and autonomy”.

The legions of the Devil are hurting shareholder value.

I’m a priest. Here’s why you should reject Peter Thiel’s Antichrist talk (https://sfstandard.com/opinion/2025/10/01/i-m-priest-s-should-reject-peter-thiel-s-antichrist-talk/)

Moar text on WaPo (https://archive.ph/dHfRl)

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/RQzZzI5.png
Deus Ex series: Helios is an artificial intelligence that results from the merging of two rival AIs, Daedalus and Icarus.

AMD with the top tier name choices

[Ekco]

ask Gemini to make a asteroid clone and it did np and then one of those visual novel rpg things
https://i.imgur.com/hUVWFZ7.png
8wWRshTlmJA

pretty neat

[shovelquest]

Will AI ever have intuition?

If it does, will that make it indistinguishable from mankind?

How intuition works:
Unconscious pattern recognition: Your brain matches current situations to patterns from past experiences and knowledge, a process that happens so quickly you aren't consciously aware of it.

Learned responses: It is based on learned information and is a result of subconscious processing of past experiences, not a purely mystical feeling.

Instantaneous and emotional: This processing happens almost instantaneously, leading to a conclusion or feeling that can feel emotionally certain.

Different from instinct: While often linked, intuition is considered a more nuanced version of instinct, which is a more basic, physical reaction to immediate danger.

[Reiwa]

Will AI ever have intuition?

If it does, will that make it indistinguishable from mankind?

What if the robot didn't know every line of its program at any particular moment?

[shovelquest]

What if the robot didn't know every line of its program at any particular moment?

Then it'd be a human!

I never learned how to breathe or make my heart beat, theres gotta be some AI running in the background keeping that shit going.

I literally think you use a random number generator at conception (sorry I mean creation) to pick a few emotional states.

Hide 99% of the AI processing.

And you'd have an AI that behaved identical to a human.

[Reiwa]

Then it'd be a human!

I never learned how to breathe or make my heart beat, theres gotta be some AI running in the background keeping that shit going.

I literally think you use a random number generator at conception (sorry I mean creation) to pick a few emotional states.

Hide 99% of the AI processing.

And you'd have an AI that behaved identical to a human.

What if it only didn't know one line?

[shovelquest]

What if it only didn't know one line?

The way I figure the human body is made up of 1000s of AI systems all handling different functions.

Even our emotions are made up of different AI that take over during certain emotional threshold triggers.

SO like, "artificial life" would be more akin to some kind of beautiful creation designed to be that, rather than "emergent AGI/ASI"

https://i.imgur.com/dicrn0h.png

[shovelquest]

It's 2025

Practically 5 years since the world was introduced to AI.

I am still pretending I am a parent trying to punish my child to learn how to do illegal things.

[shovelquest]

https://i.imgur.com/8Kd394h.gif

123oFhoxgGU

[Reiwa]

Louvre Thieves Given Immunity After Confirming Jewels Stolen For Purpose Of Training AI Software (https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2025/10/16/heather-humphreys-attends-emergency-samba-soccer-academy-in-bid-to-make-up-gap-in-polls/)

[shovelquest]

https://i.imgur.com/BTKCejN.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9TdUmwwfEU

https://i.imgur.com/6a2sjwV.png

[shovelquest]

One day I am going to get to play this despite all you communist luddite religious freakos trying to stop it.

au2ZbMs0Iz8

[shovelquest]

CD9WWKilE74

1Z7EdsX650k

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/mgQ3EgR.png
https://i.imgur.com/sMqx2iY.png
https://i.imgur.com/3ykMp7H.jpeg

[Reiwa]

https://i.imgur.com/sMqx2iY.png

Stopped and stared at this for a good five seconds. Great work.

[shovelquest]

Stopped and stared at this for a good five seconds. Great work.

i wonder how long until it can make one of these irl.

[Ekco]

Great work.

Not mine just some I grabbed off https://civitai.com/ while looking for ai models

[shovelquest]

No fan fiction allowed.

https://www.businessinsider.com/open-ai-chatgpt-microsoft-copyright-infringement-lawsuit-authors-rr-martin-2025-10

ChatGPT came up with a 'Game of Thrones' sequel idea. Now, a judge is letting George RR Martin sue for copyright infringement.

[shovelquest]

I just saw this commercial on TV.

The TV was on in the background, and i hear the AI sora voice, and I get shivers like. uncomfortable listening to the like canned shitty AI voice.

lmao

ldMqXUReHVo

[shovelquest]

Close to emotional one here. Getting there!

https://x.com/egeberkina/status/1984238983899996563

[Reiwa]

https://i.imgur.com/n63sVys.jpeg

[shovelquest]

Is the useless shit nobody uses too important to not use?!

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/L8fUztT.png
https://i.imgur.com/Af2kz4s.png
"you mother fucker"

[shovelquest]

people keep saying to me about these Ai robots that look like clunky hunks of junk "imagine them in 10 or 20 years."

But the difference between a car from 50 years ago is really just the aluminum. Practically they're identical.

[Ekco]

it's like carburetor vs efi, we're still in the having to tweak the fuel/air mixture by hand with a screwdriver stage of ai

pray we remain here for all our lifetimes cause soon as there is zero friction and this shit just works perfectly humans are gonna devolve to monkey

[shovelquest]

it's like carburetor vs efi, we're still in the having to tweak the fuel/air mixture by hand with a screwdriver stage of ai

pray we remain here for all our lifetimes cause soon as there is zero friction and this shit just works perfectly humans are gonna devolve to monkey

If you think about how unreliable operating systems and computer applications are, how can we expect one of those things to be walking around and taking care of myself?

Lol