Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. (Wall of Text)

[Hasbinbad]

This post is in response to the “Nice! How’s VP?” post, but due to it’s length and the fact that it’s also a good mini history of certain aspects of p99 - which some players may not be aware of - I’m giving it it’s own thread.

In The Beginning

In the beginning, the Earth was without form, and void. Then from the mists of time began the conspiracy theories about a crew of people on Project 1999 variously known as Rusty Long Swords, Fine Steel Long Swords, Inglourious Basterds, and Transatlantic Rampage.

The Kool-Aid Krew

Jimlizzia Jones' group of miscreants - Transcendence - started this nonsense. It began with Sky. Someone (Astro) had the bright idea to try and actually use the sky portal spell, which was available, but not supposed to work. Lo and behold, he got in, so we went exploring. We killed the fairies, but since sky wasn't quite developed yet, the keys didn't work, and we couldn't get to island 2. We did however grab a warrior haste belt, which went to Olympia. Although we expected to have the loot stripped, the GM ruling was that we could keep our loot, a precedent that would be carried out through many mishaps in the history of this server. This decision was carried across the board. To my knowledge, no loot has ever been stripped from characters for a mistake of the Dev's, except maybe Goobles being in the hole, but even there, I am pretty sure several items from the hole still exist on this server.

This is when Transcendence and a few of the more gullible people on the server started donning their Tin-Foil Hats of Destiny, and with their powers of groupthink decided that we were getting handjobs from Nilbog & co. Time after time we beat them to spawn after spawn, and the rumors raged and grew, turning a somewhat cohesive, smallish community of nostalgic gamers into a seething mass of hate-filled trolls throwing poop at each other in ways that would make monkeys blush.

Next came the Plane of Hate. Unlike Sky, which was more obviously not supposed to be open, we honestly weren't sure about Hate. We ported up and rolled through several trash mobs, garnering 2 or three crappy armor pieces, before the GM's thunderclapped our raid and told us to get lost. In both of these cases, the GM's left the doors open accidentally, and we just went in, for fun, because we could and because it was fucking awesome. None of us are apologetic about it, and while you might question the ethics of it, we honestly would have been fine with the loot being stripped, and were just in it for teh lulz. P99 wasn't such serious business back then as it is now, and most of us were itching for something new.

This incident fed fuel to the fire that Transcendence was tending, and the rumors grew and grew.

Next: Draum and Cohort. A shadowknight and cleric respectively, who appeared out of thin air with a legit-sounding story of duoing to level 50 anonymously. We had 17 people in our guild in SolB at or near level 50, and those guys were down to kick it, so we decided to try and take down Lord Nagafen. After failing 3 or 4 times, we finally got our shit together and pulled a good strat out of our asses, killing the red wyrm and earning the title "the Dragonslayer." Several days later, their anonymous-duo story was debunked, and it came out that Draum and Cohort were the products of a GM's account getting hacked, and subsequently GM-levelling 2 characters to 50. We thought it was funny that nobody had ever heard of them up to level 50, but their gear was fucking horribad, so we didn't really think too much of it.

Of course this just made the lackwits desirous of those shiny hats Transcendence were wearing, and the reputation of our heroes was fairly cemented. Xzerion was basically accused of every crime on the books, and the masses flung their filth with the certainty of ignorance.

These incidents are here chronicled in the interests of full disclosure. To be sure, there were hundreds of other unfounded rumors of how the GM’s would bend over for us at our pleasure, and they were generally perceived as gospel by anyone not in IB.

This is where the story goes astray from the path.

Tantalar, a ranger in Transcendence, was chastised and de-levelled for abusing the tumpy tonic quest to gain levels. It would be bad enough had this been all of the information about this incident, but the fact of the matter was that Tantalar had an alter ego. You see, Tantalar was also known as GM-Bristlebane, someone who damn well knew better than to exploit an obvious bug (over and over and over again) for personal gain.

Tibador was the original (co- ?) guild leader of Transcendence. Transcendece, accompanied by Tibador (who we can only assume was OK with it) was caught red-handed with fraps for evidence exploit-pulling Phinagel Autropos through the floor, bypassing the seahorses, which are far harder to kill (lol) than Phinny himself. It would be bad enough had this been all of the information about this incident, but the fact of the matter was that Tibador had an alter ego. You see, Tibador was also known as GM The Nameless, someone who damn well knew better than to exploit an obvious bug for personal gain.

Then came Vox. Killed by Transcendence the night of the DDOS with 8 people. Yes, I said eight. Allizia had figured out that Vox’s AE didn’t check the Z-axis, and that if they positioned her just right, they could chain pet her down without getting feared or damaged. I don’t know if Tibador was complicit in this act or not, but it’s just more general bullshit coming from the people who cried foul at us.

Well, after all of these incidents, it is my understanding that the GM’s who had play-characters were either removed from being a GM or given the choice to chose whether they wanted to keep GM’ing or keep playing. Xzerion decided to keep playing, and no longer had access to a GM character to my knowledge. At some point after that, he was given back the title of a Developer for Kunark. I am not privy to the machinations of the project leaders, but it is my opinion that this reinstatement was due to Xzerion’s seniority as a gm/dev - having been there from the start, proven record of fairness, and work output in developing for the server.

Nobody in Transcendence ever produced a shred of evidence of any serious wrongdoing by anyone in IB that was not followed by swift punishment including guildremoval of that person by the leadership of IB. I’m not saying that everyone in our guild was perfect and just, but the leadership had a very bleak outlook on people who used 3rd party programs or exploits.

That is quite amusing, because the very people fomenting the hyperbolic rumors of suspect ethics within IB were in fact the ones abusing the most bugs and exploiting raid mobs etc.

Dark Suspension

Yet another case of the crow calling the raven black.

The most training, suspect engagements, KSing, and general shitbaggery I’ve ever seen was Failbait and the early days of Dark Suspension. Between RallyD crashing zones and directing this crew to KS and then ninjaloot Maestro, and Raren etc. duping and duping and duping, I believe Dark Ascension earned their monniker of Dark Suspension many times over. Raren? Check. RallyD? Check. Koota? Check. Modus? Check. Spawn timers? Check. Dupes? Check. Guild-approved ShowEQ? Check. Guild-approved MQ? Check. All documented and reported with results from the GM staff.

Doctored screenshots of first-to-fifteen anyone? Anyone?

Of course, that didn’t stop me from joining them whilst on my hiatus from the IB crew, because they were #2, and I wanted to fucking raid, but it’s true nonetheless. While I was in DA, I heard more talk about how we should train and ks etc. at every chance than I’ve ever heard in any game ever. Besides the rule breaking, I never witnessed any specific overt cheating (dupes, 3rd party, etc.), except after the fact when certain people were banned or suspended. They kept their talk of cheats to a select crew of people in the upper echelons, but we all knew what was happening. Several of DA and I did our best to speak out against cheating, but it did no good. When I made my infamous anti-military post and was summarily discharged from DA, I was 2 shakes from officership (many can vouch, durpison is an easily manipulated thrall who had the good fortune of being a figurehead at the right time when a mass exodus from the failbait occured.. he was always looked at as a joke, has very little skill or knowledge, and was basically the accidental “leader” of DA who accomplished very little leadership), and it was my intention to help those guys clean house. C’est la vie.

From duping and training, to ninjalooting and the guild sanctioning the use of 3rd party programs, to scamming and kill-stealing, and even mass recruiting in the EC tunnel, this crew of people is basically guilty of every major sin in the mmo community. It has all been well-documented, and many, many repercussions have been visited on individual members and the guild as a whole. It is very telling that those who have had GM interventions on their accounts have been kept in the DA crew or kicked briefly and welcomed back. Very telling indeed.

I only wonder how much shit they’ve gotten away with that nobody knows about.

Modern Tin-Foil Hattery (Xzerion Revisited)

You guys are basically just dumb now.

We’ve been through this ringer time and time again, with much better trolls than you. You’re fucking noobs. You can’t come up with any evidence of any wrong doing, yet you accuse us of being demons from the abyss. You call out Xzerion, one of the nicest, most straight up guys I have ever met - we’ve had our differences, but not-nice and unethical is something that I would never call him. He has bent over backwards for 3? years now to help bring you fucktards the baddest ass mmo experience on the fucking internet, and you shit on him. Shame on you. How dare you? Go somewhere else if you don’t like him playing and helping develop, because your bitch asses are not fucking wanted here. What the fuck have you done for this community? It certainly has not come close to equalling one tenth of the work he has done to make this possible.

Seriously you shitty cretins, start running fraps. If we’re breaking the rules, you will catch us. I dare you. Please. We welcome the inspection. Since that probably won’t happen though, and since in the face of 100% lack of any evidence supporting you, you will continue to troll us..

We’re going to have fun with it. You keep painting us like villains, we may as well fuck with you. You’re never going to stop, so fuck it. We don’t give a shit what you think, or how it makes you feel. You’re bullshit. Even Rogean publically said that thinks it’s fucking funny how we troll you bitches. He’s been here through all of this, and knows how ridiculous all this shit about us being unethical is. Again, I don’t speak for every member, there are bad apples undoubtedly, but they get dealt with in this guild.

Thank You

I saw a few of you who have had the tinfoil hats on apologize to Xzerion. This post is still directed at you, but at least you have the nuts to admit when you’re a dickwad, and I appreciate that.

In Conclusion

Eat a dick.

[Asfasfos]

And not a single fuck was given that day...

[Hasbinbad]

u so cleva

[Zereh]

Server history from a TR troll, how quaint.

And what utter BS.

[MiRo2]

Wall of text

what utter BS.

Correction, some validity, very biased.

[Koota]

tl;dr

[Razdeline]

I'd have to agree with Hasbinbad. No one comes to Fraps our raids, and exploiting is extremely prohibited.

(Aimed at Zereh, because I see his "Utter BS" statement as non-conclusive)

And I feel bad for Xzerion. He is kind of the guy that gets thrown under the bus because everyone that is too fail to progress in this game finds him as the perfect excuse to make themselves feel better.

Not to mention that being a member of TR; I have no clue what he does as far as development terms (and I bet neither do you), but I can assure you his name isn't in green text, and also that he is not banishing any raid mobs we as a guild fail at.

Niether does he have any manipulation power whatsoever in game, but Hasbinbad is right. Just like on live -- top guilds will be the tier 1 of conspiracy theories.

But, fortunately, my statements are directed at only a select few, that actually really beleive all this nonsense and or people that are trolling the subject.

I hope someone takes this to heart. This server is a really good project, the vast majority here are better than any live server I have played on. I really do believe that P99 is a proven concept of an MMO industry that has turned too care-bear -- and that people enjoyed how it was back then compared to now.

If anything, people should spend most of their energy trying to get more people to play here, and to help out the players. Rather than tear it apart from the inside out.

[MiRo2]

tl;dr


yada yada yada
Guild-approved ShowEQ
yada yada yada
Koota? Check.
yada yada yada
It is very telling that those who have had GM interventions on their accounts have been kept in the DA crew or kicked briefly and welcomed back
yada yada yada


Maybe not guild approved in DA, obvious and ignored yes, but certainly before in the other guild you were and officer in, Eminence.

Hope that is short enough for you to read.

[Motec]

Vazdeline hits an important point. If half you you spend the time you commit to being rude individuals towards promoting P1999, and getting people playing here, this server would be amazing.

[Zereh]

Did shenanigans occur? Without a doubt. Do they still? Probably so.

Claiming that IB/TR is completely innocent throughout it all is what I call bullshit on. And your failtroll attempt at PR does nothing but make it worse.

[Hasbinbad]

I don't care if it's worse. That's the point. You're not going to stop no matter what, so fuck it. We're just gonna laugh at you.

L2 fraps or gtfo.

[Dravingar]

Did shenanigans occur? Without a doubt. Do they still? Probably so.

Claiming that IB/TR is completely innocent throughout it all is what I call bullshit on. And your failtroll attempt at PR does nothing but make it worse.

You mad.

[Razdeline]

I'm sorry you feel that way.

[Bubbles]

To this day the concept that the self appointed #1 superguild on the p99 classic server had no idea that beating on whirled mobs in Plane of Hate or killing stuff in sky wasn't within a stone's throw of linear progression is just...

facepalm x1000.

And the main reason i always locked horns with Penoy and that retarded cleric who's name escapes was the simple fact that they'd scream about how they were so damn l337 and knew everything about EQ and were screaming ignorance posts later about classic eq time line..

I mean.. honestly to this day that's probably the only thing in this server's history that makes me rage like those silly cartoon memes. So unbelievably, hypocritically 100% bullspit.

Was IB less guilty of bullspit than Trans and DA? uhh.. yeah, obv you'll be granted that.

And probably the biggest farce of it all is the public's perception of TR being whisked away into VP. Believe me, if it was put up to a vote, all the people you honestly think are raging about TR/GM favortism would actually bend over backwards to lock you guys in VP and free up some of the contested content for the rest of the pixelated player base. :)

[Koota]

Maybe not guild approved in DA, obvious and ignored yes, but certainly before in the other guild you were and officer in, Eminence.

Hope that is short enough for you to read.


Sure was. Thanks for the run down mate

[Tibador]

Well i guess that is one way to look at History of P99 then again its coming from Hasbinbad so i didn't expect much from you.

I know Xzerion takes a lot of flake for being a Developer a lot of it undeserved the same shit happened to me just like i was not even there for Vox with you say 8 i say more were there but it was not x axis it was there was no AE which continued on the next few Pops of Vox, you kept saying we were cheating on them as well like i said this is "YOUR VIEW" but it was found out that is was the Script if you remember correctly Secrets was working to fix repeatedly.

So that is just one example of the shit that gets thrown BOTH ways don't act like your innocent do i have to mention mistmoore?

Hasbinbad i know your just defending your guild for that i will not start debating every issue but when you preach this shit like its set in stone and the absolute truth it just shows how much ahh fuck it your not worth it.

I have always respected IB as it was fun in the early days minus the bullshit drama which i want to add was not the Leadership of Transcendence it was goobers like Hasbinbad that cant stop flapping there lips so in ending go get Bent Hasbinbad.

[Daldolma]

Punctuation. It could happen to you.

[Tibador]

Lol give me a break it was typed on a phone.

[Bruman]

Huge fucking run-on sentences

what

[Ektar]

that history needs more ektar in it.

just a pinch of ektar.. and bon appetit.

[Messianic]

http://youtu.be/frYtU50Av9w?t=10s

[Aadill]

Hasbinbad, there is defending your guild and then there is a one sided superlative. Frankly I don't even know the target audience that your defense is even directed towards. The current raiding scene which no longer involves any of the history that you condemn everyone to repeat has been fairly straightforward and you and I both know that. Most of the recent accusations have been cast by the P99 population at large, so if you are addressing the entire population of the server to, "Eat a dick," I refer you to what your own guildmates, Razdeline and even Xzerion, said:

This server is a really good project, the vast majority here are better than any live server I have played on. I really do believe that P99 is a proven concept of an MMO industry that has turned too care-bear -- and that people enjoyed how it was back then compared to now.

If anything, people should spend most of their energy trying to get more people to play here, and to help out the players. Rather than tear it apart from the inside out.

Out of this entire thread this is about the only thing that matters.

[Hottbiscuits Dreadmuffin]

I want Hasbinbad to write history for other stuff too. Honest, I enjoyed reading the whole thing, even though I sit on the fence with IB/TR/Everyone crying about everything. Are there people with tin foil hats? For sure. Do I think all of the high end guilds are cheating? Probably not. I think you all have each other's cell phones and text storm as soon as someone's Trakanon-egg-timer goes off, which isn't cheating. (I'm not being sarcastic)

Bort showed up in his fancy robe in Fear yesterday almost as soon as my guild got there. I think if there was blatant/consistent cheating, there would be more proof and bans handed out.

I don't know many people in TR, and I'm not a hardcore raider, but it's been entertaining to watch everyone go at it. It's kind of like hobo fights but I don't have to sneak out at 2am, pay five dollars and shower when the match is over.

[Molitoth]

This servers lore is epic yet stupid at the same time.

It's a nonstop cycle of powerguilds claim at a stat that really cannot be measured, and all of the drama that they drag the community through.

[Slathar]

wow hasbinbad is a huge nerd for typing all of that about a 12 year old game that 500 people play

no one gives a fuck

[Hasbinbad]

^fat

[Harrison]

Dark Suspension

Yet another case of the crow calling the raven black.

The most training, suspect engagements, KSing, and general shitbaggery I’ve ever seen was Failbait and the early days of Dark Suspension. Between RallyD crashing zones and directing this crew to KS and then ninjaloot Maestro, and Raren etc. duping and duping and duping, I believe Dark Ascension earned their monniker of Dark Suspension many times over. Raren? Check. RallyD? Check. Koota? Check. Modus? Check. Spawn timers? Check. Dupes? Check. Guild-approved ShowEQ? Check. Guild-approved MQ? Check. All documented and reported with results from the GM staff.

Doctored screenshots of first-to-fifteen anyone? Anyone?

Of course, that didn’t stop me from joining them whilst on my hiatus from the IB crew, because they were #2, and I wanted to fucking raid, but it’s true nonetheless. While I was in DA, I heard more talk about how we should train and ks etc. at every chance than I’ve ever heard in any game ever. Besides the rule breaking, I never witnessed any specific overt cheating (dupes, 3rd party, etc.), except after the fact when certain people were banned or suspended. They kept their talk of cheats to a select crew of people in the upper echelons, but we all knew what was happening. Several of DA and I did our best to speak out against cheating, but it did no good. When I made my infamous anti-military post and was summarily discharged from DA, I was 2 shakes from officership (many can vouch, durpison is an easily manipulated thrall who had the good fortune of being a figurehead at the right time when a mass exodus from the failbait occured.. he was always looked at as a joke, has very little skill or knowledge, and was basically the accidental “leader” of DA who accomplished very little leadership), and it was my intention to help those guys clean house. C’est la vie.

From duping and training, to ninjalooting and the guild sanctioning the use of 3rd party programs, to scamming and kill-stealing, and even mass recruiting in the EC tunnel, this crew of people is basically guilty of every major sin in the mmo community. It has all been well-documented, and many, many repercussions have been visited on individual members and the guild as a whole. It is very telling that those who have had GM interventions on their accounts have been kept in the DA crew or kicked briefly and welcomed back. Very telling indeed.

I only wonder how much shit they’ve gotten away with that nobody knows about.


Just in case anyone skipped the entire wall of text I wish to remind everyone about the worst guild in P99 history. Why are some of DA still allowed to play? I guess we'll never know.

[Molitoth]

Just in case anyone skipped the entire wall of text I wish to remind everyone about the worst guild in P99 history. Why are some of DA still allowed to play? I guess we'll never know.

What I really wanna know is the story behind your overboard hate for DA. Not that I disagree with it, I'm just curious WHY you let the guild bother you so much. You take the phrase "r u mad brew?!?" to a new level.

I find it somewhat amuzing that your virtual life consists of revenge on Dark Ascensions reputation... something nobody gives two shits about anymore but you.

[Bodeanicus]

What I really wanna know is the story behind your overboard hate for DA. Not that I disagree with it, I'm just curious WHY you let the guild bother you so much. You take the phrase "r u mad brew?!?" to a new level.

I find it somewhat amuzing that your virtual life consists of revenge on Dark Ascensions reputation... something nobody gives two shits about anymore but you.

He's a self-loathing homosexual narcissist. It explains everything.

[Harrison]

I despise cheaters, that and people who get away with shit.

[Molitoth]

I despise cheaters, that and people who get away with shit.

Not everyone in DA was a cheater, granted I guess some of us were unknowingly guilty by association. Totally fair though, because there are so many other quality powerguilds to choose from on the server.... :rolleyes:

[Slave]

tl

[Lazortag]

This post is in response to the “Nice! How’s VP?” post, but due to it’s length and the fact that it’s also a good mini history of certain aspects of p99 - which some players may not be aware of - I’m giving it it’s own thread.

In The Beginning

In the beginning, the Earth was without form, and void. Then from the mists of time began the conspiracy theories about a crew of people on Project 1999 variously known as Rusty Long Swords, Fine Steel Long Swords, Inglourious Basterds, and Transatlantic Rampage.

The Kool-Aid Krew

Jimlizzia Jones' group of miscreants - Transcendence - started this nonsense. It began with Sky. Someone (Astro) had the bright idea to try and actually use the sky portal spell, which was available, but not supposed to work. Lo and behold, he got in, so we went exploring. We killed the fairies, but since sky wasn't quite developed yet, the keys didn't work, and we couldn't get to island 2. We did however grab a warrior haste belt, which went to Olympia. Although we expected to have the loot stripped, the GM ruling was that we could keep our loot, a precedent that would be carried out through many mishaps in the history of this server. This decision was carried across the board. To my knowledge, no loot has ever been stripped from characters for a mistake of the Dev's, except maybe Goobles being in the hole, but even there, I am pretty sure several items from the hole still exist on this server.

This is when Transcendence and a few of the more gullible people on the server started donning their Tin-Foil Hats of Destiny, and with their powers of groupthink decided that we were getting handjobs from Nilbog & co. Time after time we beat them to spawn after spawn, and the rumors raged and grew, turning a somewhat cohesive, smallish community of nostalgic gamers into a seething mass of hate-filled trolls throwing poop at each other in ways that would make monkeys blush.

Next came the Plane of Hate. Unlike Sky, which was more obviously not supposed to be open, we honestly weren't sure about Hate. We ported up and rolled through several trash mobs, garnering 2 or three crappy armor pieces, before the GM's thunderclapped our raid and told us to get lost. In both of these cases, the GM's left the doors open accidentally, and we just went in, for fun, because we could and because it was fucking awesome. None of us are apologetic about it, and while you might question the ethics of it, we honestly would have been fine with the loot being stripped, and were just in it for teh lulz. P99 wasn't such serious business back then as it is now, and most of us were itching for something new.

This incident fed fuel to the fire that Transcendence was tending, and the rumors grew and grew.

Next: Draum and Cohort. A shadowknight and cleric respectively, who appeared out of thin air with a legit-sounding story of duoing to level 50 anonymously. We had 17 people in our guild in SolB at or near level 50, and those guys were down to kick it, so we decided to try and take down Lord Nagafen. After failing 3 or 4 times, we finally got our shit together and pulled a good strat out of our asses, killing the red wyrm and earning the title "the Dragonslayer." Several days later, their anonymous-duo story was debunked, and it came out that Draum and Cohort were the products of a GM's account getting hacked, and subsequently GM-levelling 2 characters to 50. We thought it was funny that nobody had ever heard of them up to level 50, but their gear was fucking horribad, so we didn't really think too much of it.

Of course this just made the lackwits desirous of those shiny hats Transcendence were wearing, and the reputation of our heroes was fairly cemented. Xzerion was basically accused of every crime on the books, and the masses flung their filth with the certainty of ignorance.

These incidents are here chronicled in the interests of full disclosure. To be sure, there were hundreds of other unfounded rumors of how the GM’s would bend over for us at our pleasure, and they were generally perceived as gospel by anyone not in IB.

This is where the story goes astray from the path.

Tantalar, a ranger in Transcendence, was chastised and de-levelled for abusing the tumpy tonic quest to gain levels. It would be bad enough had this been all of the information about this incident, but the fact of the matter was that Tantalar had an alter ego. You see, Tantalar was also known as GM-Bristlebane, someone who damn well knew better than to exploit an obvious bug (over and over and over again) for personal gain.

Tibador was the original (co- ?) guild leader of Transcendence. Transcendece, accompanied by Tibador (who we can only assume was OK with it) was caught red-handed with fraps for evidence exploit-pulling Phinagel Autropos through the floor, bypassing the seahorses, which are far harder to kill (lol) than Phinny himself. It would be bad enough had this been all of the information about this incident, but the fact of the matter was that Tibador had an alter ego. You see, Tibador was also known as GM The Nameless, someone who damn well knew better than to exploit an obvious bug for personal gain.

Then came Vox. Killed by Transcendence the night of the DDOS with 8 people. Yes, I said eight. Allizia had figured out that Vox’s AE didn’t check the Z-axis, and that if they positioned her just right, they could chain pet her down without getting feared or damaged. I don’t know if Tibador was complicit in this act or not, but it’s just more general bullshit coming from the people who cried foul at us.

Well, after all of these incidents, it is my understanding that the GM’s who had play-characters were either removed from being a GM or given the choice to chose whether they wanted to keep GM’ing or keep playing. Xzerion decided to keep playing, and no longer had access to a GM character to my knowledge. At some point after that, he was given back the title of a Developer for Kunark. I am not privy to the machinations of the project leaders, but it is my opinion that this reinstatement was due to Xzerion’s seniority as a gm/dev - having been there from the start, proven record of fairness, and work output in developing for the server.

Nobody in Transcendence ever produced a shred of evidence of any serious wrongdoing by anyone in IB that was not followed by swift punishment including guildremoval of that person by the leadership of IB. I’m not saying that everyone in our guild was perfect and just, but the leadership had a very bleak outlook on people who used 3rd party programs or exploits.

That is quite amusing, because the very people fomenting the hyperbolic rumors of suspect ethics within IB were in fact the ones abusing the most bugs and exploiting raid mobs etc.

Dark Suspension

Yet another case of the crow calling the raven black.

The most training, suspect engagements, KSing, and general shitbaggery I’ve ever seen was Failbait and the early days of Dark Suspension. Between RallyD crashing zones and directing this crew to KS and then ninjaloot Maestro, and Raren etc. duping and duping and duping, I believe Dark Ascension earned their monniker of Dark Suspension many times over. Raren? Check. RallyD? Check. Koota? Check. Modus? Check. Spawn timers? Check. Dupes? Check. Guild-approved ShowEQ? Check. Guild-approved MQ? Check. All documented and reported with results from the GM staff.

Doctored screenshots of first-to-fifteen anyone? Anyone?

Of course, that didn’t stop me from joining them whilst on my hiatus from the IB crew, because they were #2, and I wanted to fucking raid, but it’s true nonetheless. While I was in DA, I heard more talk about how we should train and ks etc. at every chance than I’ve ever heard in any game ever. Besides the rule breaking, I never witnessed any specific overt cheating (dupes, 3rd party, etc.), except after the fact when certain people were banned or suspended. They kept their talk of cheats to a select crew of people in the upper echelons, but we all knew what was happening. Several of DA and I did our best to speak out against cheating, but it did no good. When I made my infamous anti-military post and was summarily discharged from DA, I was 2 shakes from officership (many can vouch, durpison is an easily manipulated thrall who had the good fortune of being a figurehead at the right time when a mass exodus from the failbait occured.. he was always looked at as a joke, has very little skill or knowledge, and was basically the accidental “leader” of DA who accomplished very little leadership), and it was my intention to help those guys clean house. C’est la vie.

From duping and training, to ninjalooting and the guild sanctioning the use of 3rd party programs, to scamming and kill-stealing, and even mass recruiting in the EC tunnel, this crew of people is basically guilty of every major sin in the mmo community. It has all been well-documented, and many, many repercussions have been visited on individual members and the guild as a whole. It is very telling that those who have had GM interventions on their accounts have been kept in the DA crew or kicked briefly and welcomed back. Very telling indeed.

I only wonder how much shit they’ve gotten away with that nobody knows about.

Modern Tin-Foil Hattery (Xzerion Revisited)

You guys are basically just dumb now.

We’ve been through this ringer time and time again, with much better trolls than you. You’re fucking noobs. You can’t come up with any evidence of any wrong doing, yet you accuse us of being demons from the abyss. You call out Xzerion, one of the nicest, most straight up guys I have ever met - we’ve had our differences, but not-nice and unethical is something that I would never call him. He has bent over backwards for 3? years now to help bring you fucktards the baddest ass mmo experience on the fucking internet, and you shit on him. Shame on you. How dare you? Go somewhere else if you don’t like him playing and helping develop, because your bitch asses are not fucking wanted here. What the fuck have you done for this community? It certainly has not come close to equalling one tenth of the work he has done to make this possible.

Seriously you shitty cretins, start running fraps. If we’re breaking the rules, you will catch us. I dare you. Please. We welcome the inspection. Since that probably won’t happen though, and since in the face of 100% lack of any evidence supporting you, you will continue to troll us..

We’re going to have fun with it. You keep painting us like villains, we may as well fuck with you. You’re never going to stop, so fuck it. We don’t give a shit what you think, or how it makes you feel. You’re bullshit. Even Rogean publically said that thinks it’s fucking funny how we troll you bitches. He’s been here through all of this, and knows how ridiculous all this shit about us being unethical is. Again, I don’t speak for every member, there are bad apples undoubtedly, but they get dealt with in this guild.

Thank You

I saw a few of you who have had the tinfoil hats on apologize to Xzerion. This post is still directed at you, but at least you have the nuts to admit when you’re a dickwad, and I appreciate that.

In Conclusion

Eat a dick.

All I have to say to this is:

Oh the irony.

[Slave]

tl

dr

[Nedala]

And the poopsocking repeats too. Can't compete? Start poopsocking.

It's sad.

[Ektar]

skarlon > ektar.

whoever did that just made me giggle. GOOD TIMES

[yaaaflow]

<3 ektar

You better still have that damn sword considering the 100 odd times we had to kill that jerk to get it for you!

On topic that's actually a pretty damn concise history of the raiding drama - at least up until the DA stuff, I wasn't around for most of that.

[Morlaeth]

Did shenanigans occur? Without a doubt. Do they still? Probably so.

Claiming that IB/TR is completely innocent throughout it all is what I call bullshit on. And your failtroll attempt at PR does nothing but make it worse.

Zereh's mad cuz Bellevue, WA > Kirkland, WA

[Ektar]

I actually still do have the skarlon sword for the very reason how hard it was to get ;)

[deakolt]

read a book

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwGFalTRHDA

[Autotune]

" I'm doing wrong!?!? but but, look at what they did.... PLEASE BELIEVE ME... PLEASE BELIEEEVE MEEE! "


You not gonna change opinions with that bidnass. Idiots will still be hating on the whole lot of ya.


I mean, i had a black guy call me a cracker once, so now i hate all them fuckin shadow ninja lookin bastards.

[Zereh]

Zereh's mad cuz Bellevue, WA > Kirkland, WA

^^ pfffft They're both pretentious as hell. But maybe someday I'll be hipster enough to have a proper Seattle address.

And I'm not mad. LOL There is just zero credibility to his story when he pretends that IB/TR is above reproach. Because we all know that's not true.

Doesn't mean I don't <3 some of you though. I'll still sneak a rez in on one of ya after a wipe or when I see a random dead. And of course the Heebee stalking will continue ...

[booter]

I don't think he ever made the claim TR was above reproach in that wall of text.

[karsten]

guys i wanted to mention here in this thread that durison recruited me to be an officer in DA and mentioned that rallyd told him that I showed "potential"

[Harrison]

I don't think he ever made the claim TR was above reproach in that wall of text.

No, but it's the only straw those cheating pieces of shit can grasp at.

[Maurk]

IB deleted a wind etched helm of ro in front of me once a while back on a sky raid. There was no paladin for them to give it to, so they just deleted it .. :[
I'll never forgive.

[Ektar]

IB deleted a wind etched helm of ro in front of me once a while back on a sky raid. There was no paladin for them to give it to, so they just deleted it .. :[
I'll never forgive.


honestly I would destroy every single piece of our loot to make sure no one affiliated with durison and his team of scumbags got them.

Would? I have done that. I've given loot to other guilds before because I believe in positive relations. But there was just no room for that with them.

And you've had interactions with me and know me to be a good guy. So while I'm not saying 'here, listen and obey,' I just wanted to voice that and perhaps have you think on it.

[karsten]

i've deleted lustrous russet just so that ektar wouldn't get it. and you know me to be a good guy

[Morlaeth]

^^ pfffft They're both pretentious as hell. But maybe someday I'll be hipster enough to have a proper Seattle address.


My mom always said she pictured me living in Fremont. I could live on Capitol Hill with all the hipsters. Oh well, living in Renton away from most of the crazies is fine with me.

[Ektar]

yeah but you were sober when you did that so I don't count it as normal behavior

[Ele]

And the poopsocking repeats too. Can't compete? Start poopsocking.

It's sad.

So it's not competition to hang out with friends, talking and killing stuff, but it is competition to camp out fully buffed and wait at character select for a batphone?

:confused:

[Maurk]

honestly I would destroy every single piece of our loot to make sure no one affiliated with durison and his team of scumbags got them.
.

TMO wasn't merged back when IB was IB.

It was just a dick move to do. No other guild would have done that.

Hell I remember TMO hooking up an IB warrior with an indoc bp from hate AFTER this happened. (same day too.)

[bluejam]

So it's not competition to hang out with friends, talking and killing stuff, but it is competition to camp out fully buffed and wait at character select for a batphone?

:confused:
Not what we were doing before zerg patrol formed - this style of play is NOT fun, guess it is for other people.

[Shiftin]

I guess it depends routinely hang out with 40 of your closest friends "talking and killing stuff" at 3am in trak's lair.

[Raavak]

It's all competition ffs. Its a reason this is called a game. One guild saying poopsocking isn't real competition is like the Packers telling the Vikings that a rushing offense isnt real offense.

[Nedala]

No, its competition to actually mobilize for a mob. You guys forced us to do the camp thing, now you start the poopsocking.

[Raavak]

No, its competition to actually mobilize for a mob. You guys forced us to do the camp thing, now you start the poopsocking.

Your opinion. You don't get to define a word.

[Ektar]

can we start a new thread for this? I have a tag in this one.

[Anger]

tl;dr

Ctrl + F: Anger
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Sad. I figured you'd grown to hate me more than that, Hasbinbad. Change your fucking sig .gif already.

Is your e-peen really that big now bro?

I suppose it is true, as your name states, you are a Has Been. Nobody cares to listen to you spout off your IB/TR bullshit (except other IB/TR members with equally as big e-peens). For every one or two trolls that post "history" there are at least 15 more that -correctly- remember what has happened in the last year, that likely have already moved on from this server, or choose not to post simply because it won't go anywhere.

[Nedala]

Your opinion. You don't get to define a word.

Call it what you want. Once again you guys make raiding on this server worse.

Its exactly the same bullshit as last time, when DA couldn't compete to IB they started poopsocking, forcing everyone who wanted to get some mobs to join the shitfest.

[Pico]

patheticp99ers.txt

[JayDee]

a hip hop hibby to the hip hop and you dont stop rocking bang bang boogey up jump the boogey to the boogidy beep

You don't say

[Zereh]

Call it what you want. Once again you guys make raiding on this server worse.

LOL So we should all just move aside and let you have every mob? Because that's fun for whom exactly? You?

[Daldolma]

Make all raid mobs 100% random spawn timer, no variances, no windows.

If you want a mob, you wait until it's up and then you mobilize. You don't just get to sit on its pre-popped face until it suffocates.

[Ektar]

nooo this isn't happening all over again. MAKE IT STOP!

GLITCH! PONIES!

[Haul]

Hasbinbad, this actually isn't that bad of a thread. Even though I still don't really like you cause of the whole thing that came out about you disrespecting our men and women in the armed services. Also Xzerion is a pretty good fella I can vouche for that.

[Anger]

Hahah. Nice one JD.

Dude, look at the tags. Most people tagging are thinking you're an idiot, Hasbin. I respect you for sticking up for your guild and trying to tell shit like it is, but you're horribly wrong. It's like Zereh said, you paint IB/TR to be the golden child never done anything wrong ever guild on the server.

Get your head out of your ass man. I heard alot of shit about "Dark Suspension", but alot more about the asshattery of IB. Where's your proof of your accusations? Any screenshots? Or are we all just supposed to take you for your word because you have a huge post count (read: e-peen) and decided to take what was probably 3 hours to write up a huge post about this so called "History".

You're trolling. You have to be. This can't be serious, right?

[Nedala]

LOL So we should all just move aside and let you have every mob? Because that's fun for whom exactly? You?

No you dumbfuck you should get a leadership thats not actually retarded so you have a chance to win one or another mob without camping it's spawnpoint. Seriously you have a huge zergforce aviable and still can't compete other than poopsocking, its just sad.

I agree with whoever said make all raidmobs 100% random tho, that would be epic. Also WTB more full server repops like in the first few months of kunark.

[Harrison]

Your opinion. You don't get to define a word.

Lol shitbags start poopsocking and now claim it's legitimate competition...you're so bad it's fucking hilarious.

[Doors]

Thread getting better every minute.

[Fazlazen]

No you dumbfuck you should get a leadership thats not actually retarded so you have a chance to win one or another mob without camping it's spawnpoint. Seriously you have a huge zergforce aviable and still can't compete other than poopsocking, its just sad.

I agree with whoever said make all raidmobs 100% random tho, that would be epic. Also WTB more full server repops like in the first few months of kunark.

You are so cute!

[Hasbinbad]

I know you're just trolling me, and that I probably shouldn't answer.. Oh well.
Dude, look at the tags. Most people tagging are thinking you're an idiot
Not really, and anyway, I don't care. That's the point.
Hasbin. I respect you for sticking up for your guild and trying to tell shit like it is, but you're horribly wrong.
Not really, I was there. Where were you?
It's like Zereh said, you paint IB/TR to be the golden child never done anything wrong ever guild on the server.
Actually, I went out of my way to say the opposite. Instead of skimming through the post and assuming you know what it says, try reading it.
Get your head out of your ass man. I heard alot of shit about "Dark Suspension", but alot more about the asshattery of IB. Where's your proof of your accusations? Any screenshots? Or are we all just supposed to take you for your word because you have a huge post count (read: e-peen)
L2Search function if you really care; much of the evidence I refer to has been posted on these forums at one time or another. Also ask around for a link to the old forums where even more evidence was posted. Also you can ask the GM's to provide you with the evidence we've provided them over the years as opposed to making an RnF post about it (you know, like they ask you to), but I doubt they will give enough shits to show you.
You're trolling. You have to be. This can't be serious, right?
Not trolling. While my OP may be biased as Miro so astutely pointed out, the details are all factual unless otherwise indicated.

[Ele]

No, its competition to actually mobilize for a mob. You guys forced us to do the camp thing, now you start the poopsocking.

"Forced us to do the camp thing" meaning "before anyone else started killing Trakanon we didn't have to worry about anyone staking a claim to him so we could kill him at our leisure". No one is forcing you to do anything, you are making the choice to camp out [or stay bound] on the ledge, if you believe that "competition" is in mobilization efforts then by all means camp out at random places across Norrath that aren't the ledge and have your guild run to the zone once he spawns from now on.


On a side note:
How would you propose a "competition" of mobilization, when both sides essentially stay logged in killing near the spawn or stay camped out at the spawn waiting for a batphone? A race from a random zone to the boss? Instancing each guild having a boss to engage and the first one dead gets the prize?

[Daldolma]

I agree with whoever said make all raidmobs 100% random tho, that would be epic. Also WTB more full server repops like in the first few months of kunark.

That'd be me.

I honestly don't see what the issue would be. Are that many people really going to bitch and moan about 2 Trak spawns in 2 days, and no Sathir for a week? Get over it. At least you know that if you're in a capable guild and a mob pops prime time, you've got as good a shot as anyone at the mob. You just need to haul ass. As things currently stand, unless you've got 40 unemployed guildies that can park one toon and wait for a batphone at any time of day, you're fucked.

It'd also disincentivize these massive clusterfucked alliances. With complete random spawns, mobilization would be at a premium -- meaning 60-man raid forces would be too big and slow to compete in most cases. There'd finally be a reason for smaller, quality-based guilds to exist and continue to exist without merging. Obviously some guilds would still dominate, but they'd do it because of skill and speed, not raw numbers. There'd be actual value in being able to do mobs with fewer members, since it'd be faster. Parity would also have people weighing the value of remaining in a dominant guild and being 14th in line for an item or joining/starting a newer, smaller guild where they'd still have a shot at the same mobs, but would be closer to the top of the food chain.

Just sayin'.

[quido]

Everybody wants a set of rules/considerations that benefits them the most.

[Nedala]

What i mean is raids dont camp prebuffed at traks lair, instead everyone just does their grouping or whatever and when trak spawns a race starts. We didn't precamp in traks lair before you started doing it. And it was the same way with the poopsocking. It's just a lame thing to do.

I for one had a lot more fun at the first few trak raids where we had to fight down and be faster than the competition, or at the full server repops where everyone was spread out cause trak wasn't in window.

[Daldolma]

Shrug, it's got nothing to do with benefit. It's got to do with enjoyment. Nobody, including the perpetrators, enjoys camping out at Trak and logging in to sweep the floor with him after a batphone. It's not like I'm sore about losing out on Trak. I haven't had time to play regularly in months. I just don't understand why it's necessary to forewarn everyone when a mob is going to pop. Why give a window? EVERYONE is stuck in this system where you either form a zerg guild and wait on mobs to pop or you miss out entirely. It's worthless to blame someone -- it's just the way it is. And nobody likes it.

So why not fix it in a way that promotes competition and skill? I understand the fact that completely randomized pops would end up fucking over certain timezones and over/under-spawning certain mobs, but at least you'd reinstate the concept of competition.

[Bruman]

Everybody wants a set of rules/considerations that benefits them the most.

It's like humans are selfish or something, crazy right?

[Molitoth]

And it was the same way with the poopsocking.

We used Wendy's Bags, not socks.

[Nedala]

That'd be me.

I honestly don't see what the issue would be. Are that many people really going to bitch and moan about 2 Trak spawns in 2 days, and no Sathir for a week? Get over it. At least you know that if you're in a capable guild and a mob pops prime time, you've got as good a shot as anyone at the mob. You just need to haul ass. As things currently stand, unless you've got 40 unemployed guildies that can park one toon and wait for a batphone at any time of day, you're fucked.

It'd also disincentivize these massive clusterfucked alliances. With complete random spawns, mobilization would be at a premium -- meaning 60-man raid forces would be too big and slow to compete in most cases. There'd finally be a reason for smaller, quality-based guilds to exist and continue to exist without merging. Obviously some guilds would still dominate, but they'd do it because of skill and speed, not raw numbers. There'd be actual value in being able to do mobs with fewer members, since it'd be faster. Parity would also have people weighing the value of remaining in a dominant guild and being 14th in line for an item or joining/starting a newer, smaller guild where they'd still have a shot at the same mobs, but would be closer to the top of the food chain.

Just sayin'.

The only problem i see with it is you would have to track a lot and all mobs. Simple solution: serverwide message when a raidmob spawns, yess!! imagine the fun!

But not classic, so i doubt it will ever be considered :(

[Molitoth]

So why not fix it in a way that promotes competition and skill?

The only way to fix this in EQ is to add Instances and see what guild is the most skilled to do with the least amount of people.

At least, thats the solution SOE came up with.

In P99 everyone knows the strats for every encounter, there will never be skill involved again. Sorry.

[Bruman]

But not classic, so i doubt it will ever be considered :(

Because variance is?

[Raavak]

We used Wendy's Bags, not socks.

I am sorta starting to get the feeling "socks" wasn't supposed to mean my cat, was it.

[Nedala]

Lets call it wendybagging instead of poopsocking!

[Koota]

lol koota paid to get unbanned.

[Aadill]

Koota payin big bucks to give no fucks.

[Shiftin]

Because variance is?

I wrote literally pages on this when this topic came up less than 2 months ago, but yes, variance existed on live. It didn't exist to this degree, more like 6-12 hours for most mobs, but it did exist. That window has been extended to keep GMs from having to intervene at every encounter. This way guilds don't sit on top of a mobs spawn point, simultaneously engage on a pop and petition about who had first aggro 3x a week anymore.

[Bruman]

I wrote literally pages on this when this topic came up less than 2 months ago, but yes, variance existed on live. It didn't exist to this degree, more like 6-12 hours for most mobs, but it did exist. That window has been extended to keep GMs from having to intervene at every encounter. This way guilds don't sit on top of a mobs spawn point, simultaneously engage on a pop and petition about who had first aggro 3x a week anymore.

I understand it, I was just addressing the "no way they'd do something that's not 100% classic" thought. It's an extremely rare exception, but never say never.

Not to say that I think they'd go so far as global announcements, lol.

[Ektar]

Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1499)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1469)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1526)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1488)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1489)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1562)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1470)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1580)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1486)

And this is just from the last page of the 9 pages that came up on the search.
Search: Raid rules (http://www.project1999.org/forums/search.php?searchid=823422&pp=25)

not to say this has been done before, but it's been done before. let's get back to talking about my place in p99 history.

[Bruman]

Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1499)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1469)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1526)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1488)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1489)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1562)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1470)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1580)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1486)

And this is just from the last page of the 9 pages that came up on the search.
Search: Raid rules (http://www.project1999.org/forums/search.php?searchid=823422&pp=25)

not to say this has been done before, but it's been done before. let's get back to talking about my place in p99 history.

I think we should talk about raid rules. What is your stance?

[Daldolma]

The only problem i see with it is you would have to track a lot and all mobs. Simple solution: serverwide message when a raidmob spawns, yess!! imagine the fun!

But not classic, so i doubt it will ever be considered :(

That's the best part -- it's impossible to track every mob. What are you going to do? Leave a tracker in Seb, KC, Skyfire, EJ, TD, SolB, Perma, Fear, DL, and Hate? Can't do it. You have to rely at least partly on the community. It's entirely possible Gorenaire could be chilling for an hour before anyone realizes -- and the fastest to find out will likely be the one who is friends with the poor idiot that gets eaten on his way to KC.

It takes the science out of the game. You're not going to have nerds with egg timers determining how and when mobs die anymore. There's always a chance that if you're in the right place at the right time, you get a jump on everyone else.

[Anger]

Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1499)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1469)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1526)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1488)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1489)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1562)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1470)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1580)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1486)

And this is just from the last page of the 9 pages that came up on the search.
Search: Raid rules (http://www.project1999.org/forums/search.php?searchid=823422&pp=25)

not to say this has been done before, but it's been done before. let's get back to talking about my place in p99 history.

lol at Hasbinbad posting in nearly every one of these threads.

[Maurk]

WTB /guildwar

[Glitterati]

To Allizia's defence, and who is the only man on earth I'd bear children to, that was a good Phinny pull. Check it out on youtube sometimes lmao.

[Autotune]

being mad at poopsocking is like being pissed at the guy who stands in line for 10days to get a ticket to his favorite band's concert.

[Ektar]

did allizia assist someone who swam invis up to phinny and targeted him, or did he invis up, target, swim back, and cast tash?

that's how it went down, right? :p

[Daldolma]

being mad at poopsocking is like being pissed at the guy who stands in line for 10days to get a ticket to his favorite band's concert.

Got nothing to do with being mad at all. And if the people poopsocking were happy about it, I'd say more power to them.

The problem is that nobody is happy with that situation -- not even the guild getting the mobs. It's just what they're forced to do to win because if they didn't, someone else would. Eliminate the capability and you eliminate the problem.

[Autotune]

Got nothing to do with being mad at all. And if the people poopsocking were happy about it, I'd say more power to them.

The problem is that nobody is happy with that situation -- not even the guild getting the mobs. It's just what they're forced to do to win because if they didn't, someone else would. Eliminate the capability and you eliminate the problem.

or stop trying to make everyone happy.

If you want something bad enough, do what it takes to get it.

[Daldolma]

or stop trying to make everyone happy.

If you want something bad enough, do what it takes to get it.

Fixing something that makes nobody happy =/= trying to make everyone happy.

You'd still get a fuck-ton of QQ if end-game raid mobs were all on 100% randomized spawn timers. "oh ma gawd 3 Traks in a row spawned Euro prime time, TR bias!"

But there'd be far more people actually enjoying the end-game. As it stands, the end-game consists of a never-ending cycle of burn out and reinforcement via merger. People burn out because logging out your main @ raid location 36 hours in advance just to log back in, engage, loot, and repeat is not fun.

[Harrison]

or stop trying to make everyone happy.

If you want something bad enough, do what it takes to get it.

Your analogy was bad.

Compare it more to:

Group of racers sit at finish line in a race until the gun is fired so no one else can win the race.

No competition, and it's fucking stupid. Every single person doing it should be ashamed of themselves.

[Ektar]

this suggestion has already been discussed over a year ago by the leaders of all guilds capable of raiding and sent to the GMs for consideration. And not like I just sent them a PM out of the blue; we were working on a new system together.

I mean, not to segue clandestinely or anything, but can we get back to the original topic and talk about MY PLACE IN P99 HISTORY

[Harrison]

It's always going to happen as long as it's allowed and people are terrible enough to go through with it.

[Autotune]

Your analogy was bad.

Compare it more to:

Group of racers sit at finish line in a race until the gun is fired so no one else can win the race.

No competition, and it's fucking stupid. Every single person doing it should be ashamed of themselves.

that is worse than mine lol.

Anyone can "poopsock" nothing stopping someone else from doing the same thing. I personally don't care one way or the other, game isn't that damn important. I won't even wake up to kill a target ( because when i'm done playing, i'm done).

Should i be mad because other people get batphones and wake up to kill a target just because i'm not willing to do it? Cause i'll gladly bitch about that, or bitch that people in other time zones have an advantage on mobs spawning during times that aren't prime playing times for me.

Stop bitching and do something about it imo. Or continue to QQ about someone else playing a game how they want.

[Alarti0001]

I want Hasbinbad to write history for other stuff too.


I do too! Tell me how the Nazi's won WW2 next.
More story time imo

[Aadill]

I do too! Tell me how the Nazi's won WW2 next.
More story time imo

They didn't. Someone said, and I quote, "...we're gonna be doin' one thing and one thing only... killin' Nazis." and then it was all over... WW2 done.

[Ektar]

hoho!

[Harrison]

that is worse than mine lol.

Anyone can "poopsock" nothing stopping someone else from doing the same thing. I personally don't care one way or the other, game isn't that damn important. I won't even wake up to kill a target ( because when i'm done playing, i'm done).

Should i be mad because other people get batphones and wake up to kill a target just because i'm not willing to do it? Cause i'll gladly bitch about that, or bitch that people in other time zones have an advantage on mobs spawning during times that aren't prime playing times for me.

Stop bitching and do something about it imo. Or continue to QQ about someone else playing a game how they want.

No, the point is that one group of terrible players is causing anyone else who wants to play to have to do it their way because of their utter lack of ability to compete....again. The rest of the server is fucking sick of it.

We sat and hammered out a set of rules to avoid this sort of thing, but that doesn't work for people who don't want to have to compete. They cheat the system we worked together to get, and sit on spawnpoints like fucking tools.

[Ele]

Your analogy was bad.

Compare it more to:

Group of racers sit at finish line in a race until the gun is fired so no one else can win the race.

No competition, and it's fucking stupid. Every single person doing it should be ashamed of themselves.


Your analogy is flawed. It would be more akin to knowing a foot race was going to be held within the next five days, but no one knows exactly when. You have racer group A sitting at the starting line and racer group B going about their daily routine while leaving someone there to tell them when the starting pistol fires. The group A would be ready to start running the instant the shot fires and the group B would have to first show up to the starting line and then start running.

Group A still has to finish the race, so group B even though they started later still has the opportunity to catch up or overtake group A.

I'll admit this still doesn't exactly fit into the EQ paradigm. The mob's loot doesn't change based on the experience or number of people in a group nor does the encounter (speaking in terms of how the mob fights back, not the particular strategy used to down the mob).

[Harrison]

Eh, it's better than the ticket one, because the guy sitting to get the ticket doesn't watch the concert by himself once he gets the ticket...effectively fucking over anyone else who wants a shot at seeing the show.

[Alarti0001]

No, the point is that one group of terrible players is causing anyone else who wants to play to have to do it their way because of their utter lack of ability to compete....again. The rest of the server is fucking sick of it.

We sat and hammered out a set of rules to avoid this sort of thing, but that doesn't work for people who don't want to have to compete. They cheat the system we worked together to get, and sit on spawnpoints like fucking tools.

I love you. I bet Roosevelt caused Pearl Harbor and Bush planned the World Trade towers. Elvis and Tupac are still alive. Obama is a muslim terrorist from Kenya.....insert conspiracy here.....

[Raavak]

What if every guild had an equal number of characters of equal class, level and gear, and have to start the same distance from a raid mob, then a GM shouts "GO!" and whoever gets it wins! Sounds fair to me.

[Ele]

I love you. I bet Roosevelt caused Pearl Harbor and Bush planned the World Trade towers. Elvis and Tupac are still alive. Obama is a muslim terrorist from Kenya.....insert conspiracy here.....

We all know Cheney did that, all of it.

[JenJen]

how did this thread become so unentertaining? it had potential to be one of the greatest.

you actually HAVE to agree with most of the tags...?

[Ele]

how did this thread become so unentertaining? it had potential to be one of the greatest.

you actually HAVE to agree with most of the tags...?

You ever think that P99 is some grand social experiment being run by G-men?

[Harrison]

I love you. I bet Roosevelt caused Pearl Harbor and Bush planned the World Trade towers. Elvis and Tupac are still alive. Obama is a muslim terrorist from Kenya.....insert conspiracy here.....

My post has nothing to do with retarded conspiracies.

[Ele]

My post has nothing to do with retarded conspiracies.

You're right it has nothing to do with conspiracies.

[Raavak]

My post has nothing to do with retarded conspiracies.

Cool story bro

[Alarti0001]

My post has nothing to do with retarded conspiracies.

Actually............

[Feachie]

I love you. I bet Roosevelt caused Pearl Harbor and Bush planned the World Trade towers. Elvis and Tupac are still alive. Obama is a muslim terrorist from Kenya.....insert conspiracy here.....

the moon landing was faked, roswell was real, babylon is still keeping the brothas down, the illumniati controls it all, flouride in water systems is a commie plot, peak oil/climate change/global terrorism are fabrications.

that's all i got right now :\

[baub]

No you dumbfuck you should get a leadership thats not actually retarded so you have a chance to win one or another mob without camping it's spawnpoint. Seriously you have a huge zergforce aviable and still can't compete other than poopsocking, its just sad.

I too miss the days when I could just chill in EC or Guk, and then mobilize. However, the day came when IB took their skill and combined it with DW's numbers (karsten came to play also!) and started precamping 70+ up in hate.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Alarti0001]

the moon landing was faked, roswell was real, babylon is still keeping the brothas down, the illumniati controls it all, flouride in water systems is a commie plot, peak oil/climate change/global terrorism are fabrications.

that's all i got right now :\

thanks I was missing some

[Ele]

thanks I was missing some

Don't forget Poland and Tonkin.

[Raavak]

Stonecutters made Steve Guttenburg a star.

[Aadill]

Snape kills Dumbledore.



Am I doing this right?

[Ele]

Snape kills Dumbledore.



Am I doing this right?

Hate crime?

[Shannacore]

Tralina is Amelinda

[Feachie]

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/dSpOjj4YD8c" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Ektar]

Tralina is Amelinda

based purely on the percentage of female players, this is quite possible.

[Autotune]

Eh, it's better than the ticket one, because the guy sitting to get the ticket doesn't watch the concert by himself once he gets the ticket...effectively fucking over anyone else who wants a shot at seeing the show.

the guy that sits waiting in line for his ticket is the same as a raid sitting at the spawn waiting for it to pop.

The guy that gets his ticket after waiting in line for days/hours effectively fucks the guy who thought he could show up when the show started and expect to get in.

If people didn't wait in line and all waited to go buy their tickets when the show started then it would be a more fair experience for people that didn't have the "free time" to wait 10days to get a ticket. Guess those guys are ruining competition on getting tickets for poopsocking ticket lines.

IDK how that doesn't fit almost exactly to how "poopsocking" is considered.

[Seaweedpimp]

Hi i didnt read this

[Harrison]

ITT: Bad players try to justify their lack of skill. LOL SIT ON SPAWNPOINTS LOL

[Feachie]

ITT: Bad players try to justify their lack of skill. LOL SIT ON SPAWNPOINTS LOL
these "bad players" sitting on spawnpoints don't happen to be the ones that are killing said mobs are they? sounds like a valid tactic to eliminate competition to me.

my guild leader told the qq guilds on our server that If you want to be faster and get the mob first, do it. if you didn't make it to engage first, you weren't fast enough. stop talking, stop crying, just do it. content isn't instanced for a reason (other than the lack of the technology at the time of creation!)

[Raavak]

My personal favorite is "the world leaders are lizardmen from outer space" like in "V" or "The Arrival", only these guys are serious. They have websites with pictures of like Bush and go "look at this one close, you can tell".

[Raavak]

ITT: Bad players try to justify their lack of skill. LOL SIT ON SPAWNPOINTS LOL

TR only accepts good plyrs. That's why none of them have evr trained ne1 evr.

[Dagner]

I too miss the days when I could just chill in EC or Guk, and then mobilize. However, the day came when IB took their skill and combined it with DW's numbers (karsten came to play also!) and started precamping 70+ up in hate.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Couldn't have said it better. This is what forced other guilds to think merge to compete and what has ultimately lead to this server's current situation. Everyone wants to be the best, and people do what they have to do to get their pixels, unfortunately. All sides act and react, none are guiltless.

[Skope]

where's the part where hasbin leaves IB and joins DA? must've missed it.

[Ektar]

it was actually in there..

[Skope]

was it? i was skimming and watching CNN and just assumed.

joke's on me

[Ektar]

ya know what happens when you assume...

you sometimes mess up.

[Harrison]

Couldn't have said it better. This is what forced other guilds to think merge to compete and what has ultimately lead to this server's current situation. Everyone wants to be the best, and people do what they have to do to get their pixels, unfortunately. All sides act and react, none are guiltless.

Lol you aren't seriously trying to say IB started poopsocking first on this server are you? :eek:

[Ennoia]

Post from page 1

Idk man, even though while I was in IB/TR I never saw any cheating/exploits that couldn't be avoided (Mage pet bug where you can summon infinite pets was kinda unavoidable, and cost us Cazic Thule a couple times), but Trystych's recent IP ban with no real info from TR about why it happened could lead people to believe otherwise (unless it's in that 14 pages of 'zomg fuck TR' posts that I don't really want to dig through).

[quido]

People seem to forget that TR is camped out fully buffed and ready to engage in a moment's notice also. We have a couple groups collecting some experience and some spells and the same number just semi-afk hanging out and shooting the shit with the GMs and their fellow guildies. This makes you people want to complain? You think you're taking the high road because you have a greater compulsion to play your alts? Both of my alts need work but I just didn't feel like playing either yesterday. So I sat at the ledge, killed a couple of juggs, and played my guitar and watched Game of Thrones. Fucking shoot me.

How bad do you want it Hasbin? Do you really want to kill Trakanon more than I do? I want to see VP. I want my friends and guildmates to see it too. If you want to engage and kill him before us, you go ahead and do so. And god damn it, Hasbin, we know you would do so with grace and humility.

[Appaullo]

Wow, this was a lot to read in one sitting.

Appaullo

[JenJen]

i agree

jenjen

[G13]

Hasbinbad bro you're full of shit.

I witnessed first hand the shady shit Xzerion pulled, through blatant abuse of developer powers, like changing the pathing of mobs in Vox's lair, which wasn't classic, because his guild was getting beat legit on every target for months by DA. He specifically changed it, and left it out of the original patch notes. It was only revised later after people pointed out the obvious nerf. This is like Blizzard developers changing content so whatever guild they play in can win.

It's free and the community is grateful, but seriously, that has no place in a competitive gaming environment. It's not the only thing either. IB was exploiting all kinds of rechargeable items early on, which gave them a huge benefit that nobody else had. Soulfire charges, Lfoot raiding caps for wtfinstantports to WC for instant organizing. If it was rechargeable, you fuckers were exploiting it.

[Ektar]

As the general, king, leader, and supreme overlord of everything paladin in IB, I can tell you the only soulfire charges ever used were on efreeti lord dojorn, from my soulfire, which, later that raid, was turned in for fiery avenger.

sorry I thought this thread was about my history in p99

[Harrison]

Not that this terrible enchanter had any credibility to begin with, but lawl at saying a dev changed content to directly influence raiding for his guild.

You're fucking retarded lmao

[Erasong]

that was me with the soulfire charges. found by accident during a 3 man Lucan fight and then exploited to win since stumbles ninja afked and i needed heeaaalllssss. level 50 pally basically solo'ed lucan bro's. come at me.




also, leave Xzerion alone. You guys have no idea how much extra time and work he puts into this server. He's actually a pretty stand up guy and Ive never seen him abuse his position in my year + of being guilded with him in IB.

[G13]

Gothic Circle lol

Fixed

Xzerion changed the TT pathing in Vox's lair = FACT

Sorry bro. Troll someone else who gives a shit about how much you want TR to like you.

[G13]

that was me with the soulfire charges. found by accident during a 3 man Lucan fight and then exploited to win since stumbles ninja afked and i needed heeaaalllssss. level 50 pally basically solo'ed lucan bro's. come at me.




also, leave Xzerion alone. You guys have no idea how much extra time and work he puts into this server. He's actually a pretty stand up guy and Ive never seen him abuse his position in my year + of being guilded with him in IB.

He may very well be a good guy, but he's not a fucking saint. He has abused his position as a developer in the past. That's just a fact.

[President]

Tralina is a whore.

[Seaweedpimp]

Kids dont grow up to be like hasbinbad. Or harrison.

[Slathar]

the best part is these people arguing over video games are more than likely over the age of 25. lol

[Pyrocat]

lol at Hasbinbad posting in nearly every one of these threads.

lol that you went to the effort to check

[nalkin]

I want to hear the story about how that one hawt? girl split up IB... could someone tell that story.

[Ostros]

Quality posting. At least Hasbin fucking tries.

[johnny ringo]

the expression is actually "those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."


http://www.memestick.com/images/MULTIPIC/at%20least%20you%20tried.jpg

[Humerox]

Wow. Glad I been missing all this, lol.

Hasbin...you left out SO much! Great read tho, bro.

As much as you guys are gonna hate to hear this, and as much as I once argued so passionately against it...the only thing that's gonna work is

:drum roll

rotation.

The argument is gonna be "there's no competition". Sure. You bet.

Poopsocking will always be the answer because there is NO guild - not one - that can effectively and consistently beat IB/TR on an even playing field, and there has never been a guild that could.

There were a couple in the early days that gave them an honest run for their money, and that was probably the best fun I ever had here. The only problem is that TR would have to give a bit to placate the server. There's a price to pay for being TOO good, fellas.

[Webwolf]

I hope someday the raiding scene on P99 will become more like it was on live where there was no spawn variables, no poopsocking or pre-camping, not so many rules, and nearly no GM intervention. As a matter of fact there shouldn't be any rules in regards to raiding. Lost a race? tough deal. Got steamrolled? /deletepetition. Got trained by the competing guild? Sorry I won't accept your video evidence, fraps isn't classic. That would encourage some healthy competition between skillful players and would benefit the growth of the server as not so many people would get burned out by this bullshit. It would also be alot more fun! Until then I think I will just remain guildless and go make a million plat in EC.

[Pyrocat]

Webwolf, President, G13 this thread has brought out all the old crew.

Rotation will never work solely as a function of population. It may have worked with 2 guilds, but 2 guilds quickly become 4 and so on and so forth until you get one dragon every 2 months and you may as well /random 100 with every character over level 46 on the server.

[Glitch]

Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1499)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1469)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1526)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1488)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1489)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1562)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1470)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1580)
Raid rule discussion (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1486)

And this is just from the last page of the 9 pages that came up on the search.
Search: Raid rules (http://www.project1999.org/forums/search.php?searchid=823422&pp=25)

not to say this has been done before, but it's been done before. let's get back to talking about my place in p99 history.

Omg Ektar. I can't believe you compiled a list of raid rule discussion threads, and omitted the most important one, namely "Glitch's Brand New Raid Rules"

And I quote (me) (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13122)


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For the purpose of this ruleset, Maestro of Rancor isn't considered a real boss.

Any comments or suggestions are welcome


That being said, I saw this thread earlier today, and waited all day to find a time to read it, and finally at 3:36AM managed to read through all 16 pages. I've gotta tell you, I'm kinda disappointed.

[karsten]

I do like how this thread has caused some old pals like tibador to come out of the woodwork and say hi again

[Omnimorph]

Sort of fizzled out towards the end here, but good read :D

[Autotune]

I want to hear the story about how that one hawt? girl split up IB... could someone tell that story.

bout time for another story...

[Ektar]

sorry glitch pal :( it must've been on page 1-8 of the search which I didn't go into; just page 9. I do appreciate you correcting my oversight though.

Wow. Glad I been missing all this, lol.

Hasbin...you left out SO much! Great read tho, bro.

As much as you guys are gonna hate to hear this, and as much as I once argued so passionately against it...the only thing that's gonna work is

:drum roll

rotation.

The argument is gonna be "there's no competition". Sure. You bet.

Poopsocking will always be the answer because there is NO guild - not one - that can effectively and consistently beat IB/TR on an even playing field, and there has never been a guild that could.

There were a couple in the early days that gave them an honest run for their money, and that was probably the best fun I ever had here. The only problem is that TR would have to give a bit to placate the server. There's a price to pay for being TOO good, fellas.

I would rather suffer the end of IB a thousand times; I would rather die in agony than accept a rotation from you!


but I DO appreciate your reasoning ;)


I hope someday the raiding scene on P99 will become more like it was on live where there was no spawn variables, no poopsocking or pre-camping, not so many rules, and nearly no GM intervention. As a matter of fact there shouldn't be any rules in regards to raiding. Lost a race? tough deal. Got steamrolled? /deletepetition. Got trained by the competing guild? Sorry I won't accept your video evidence, fraps isn't classic. That would encourage some healthy competition between skillful players and would benefit the growth of the server as not so many people would get burned out by this bullshit. It would also be alot more fun! Until then I think I will just remain guildless and go make a million plat in EC.

it sure as balls wouldn't be healthy. It would be the exact opposite. It would be horrible douchebaggery (which is obv the exact opposite of healthy). I'd backup this argument but rly I feel it unnecessary.

[Bodeanicus]

Tralina please be my whore.

Fixed.

[Loly Taa]

Not that this terrible enchanter had any credibility to begin with, but lawl at saying a dev changed content to directly influence raiding for his guild.

You're fucking retarded lmao

I'd like to politely point out that you're wrong. Xzerion has been caught making some less than classic changes to certain zones where his guild was contesting spawns and regularly losing.


Poopsocking will always be the answer because there is NO guild - not one - that can effectively and consistently beat IB/TR on an even playing field, and there has never been a guild that could.


I'll also have to politely disagree on this point as well. IB was forced into a merger because they were getting steamrolled consistently. It wasn't until after the fail merger with Transcendence that they finally got their shit together and started raiding with Darkwind.

True story;

When TMO showed up on the server, about a month after we formed- IB was in such dire straits that they approached us about a merger. They couldn't hang with my insistence on keeping the name and they took that load of fail over to Supreme.

I remember... clear as day what Xzerion said to me before that merger...

"No matter what guild we join it will be the best guild on the server."

And then the reign of Reign ended quite quickly after that.

Moral of the story? Some merges work, some do not, but one day TR will fall, just as IB already did. It's just a matter of time- Velious ain't coming out for a very long time.

The pool of players to absorb on the server is dwindling fast. It's not like people are falling all over themselves to come join the high end game here anymore. The best part is TR is doing it to themselves, the jokes about having GMs/Guides in guild and their insistence on letting no one else on the server have raid mobs without fighting tooth and nail for them isn't exactly attracting many former EQ raiders. With Velious literally 2+ years out, the burnout will come quick and hard after everyone shows up to VP and gets their loots and peaces out.

You're right Hasbinbad, those who do not remember the past are doomed to repeat it.

[Pheer]

I'd like to politely point out that you're wrong. Xzerion has been caught making some less than classic changes to certain zones where his guild was contesting spawns and regularly losing.

lol'd at "caught" and you implying that he has a history of it rather than it being one isolated incident where he was mistaken and immediately corrected it

[Molitoth]

NO guild - not one - that can effectively and consistently beat IB/TR on an even playing field


Beat? beat how? the tracking and race to mobs?

DA "beat" them for months before the Darkwind merger. Eventually all guilds will suffer burnout and fall from the top. But it's really nothing special. And I'm not here to promote DA.... I like and have always liked IB as well.... I just state the facts.

[Ektar]

I love how IB getting steamrolled has gone from totally fake propoganda to some sort of fact. There was probably only 1 week where DA got more kills than IB in a given cycle; otherwise we always got the majority (or all). Unless you're counting when we moved to sky and didn't care about the dragons or gods for a while? then ok lol.

I know. I was there. I didn't sleep. I was driven insane by it. Go away. Stop touching me.

[Ektar]

Or if you count when they cheated and knew the exact spawn times I guess :P

[Harrison]

I love how IB getting steamrolled has gone from totally fake propoganda to some sort of fact. There was probably only 1 week where DA got more kills than IB in a given cycle; otherwise we always got the majority (or all). Unless you're counting when we moved to sky and didn't care about the dragons or gods for a while? then ok lol.

I know. I was there. I didn't sleep. I was driven insane by it. Go away. Stop touching me.

I honestly think it's the only way their inferior little minds operate. They latch onto something until it's real to them. It makes the world a better place when they're too dumb to improve it for real.

That's the only explanation for gulping down bullshit this large without the need for a bib.

[Molitoth]

I love how IB getting steamrolled has gone from totally fake propoganda to some sort of fact. There was probably only 1 week where DA got more kills than IB in a given cycle; otherwise we always got the majority (or all). Unless you're counting when we moved to sky and didn't care about the dragons or gods for a while? then ok lol.

I know. I was there. I didn't sleep. I was driven insane by it. Go away. Stop touching me.

You had quit during this period. Infact a lot of core IB quit, and tbh I would think this was the reason DA thrived. (and it was months... not a week)

[Ektar]

I kept reading it and assumed it was while I quit. but according to loly's timeline (the trans merger), I was still playing.

and it didn't happen while I was still playing.

[Ektar]

In fact, I only quit once we finally won the war against DA and they began to crumble. Their core left, some joined us, and they were forced out of sky due to lack of numbers. It's quite possible they rebuilt after that, cuz we all know that IB was falling apart at the seams at that time too (splintering 2 new guilds and all that good stuff).

and I would dare say without me they took a huge blow too :(

[Molitoth]

Their core left, some joined us, and they were forced out of sky due to lack of numbers. It's quite possible they rebuilt after that

The DA merge with Eminence was what rebuilt DA. Lots of Eminence members were major players. If IB would've merged with Eminence, the history of the server would be completely different imo.

lol @ the merge with Dozekar. =P

[Ektar]

see now that was after my time. loly's timeline is messed up.

[Ektar]

^ once again, this thread is about my part in p99 history.

I didn't evne mean to do it this time. I tihnk it's just meant to be.

[Molitoth]

^ once again, this thread is about my part in p99 history.

I didn't evne mean to do it this time. I tihnk it's just meant to be.

You played the part in denying my IB membership due to already having 3 active paladins. You left me no choice but to join DA. =P Bastard!
Regardless, no regrets. :D

[Durison]

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3852/rickybobbyhands.jpg

[Harrison]

Awesome, the biggest shitbag on the server currently has graced his ineptitude all over this thread finally.

[Ektar]

lol welcome durison. glad you finally made an appearance.


and see. didn't recruit over a certain class cap. how things coulda been!

[Molitoth]

Awesome, the biggest shitbag on the server currently has graced his ineptitude all over this thread finally.

Durison,

See what you do to people?

[Molitoth]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ru8G-nhhuzM/TeUDUHxUkRI/AAAAAAAABNw/oALHiPm6oeU/s1600/nerd-rage.jpg

[Harrison]

I'm happier than a pig in shit today. Far from raging even remotely.

I'm off to see 4-5 of my favorite bands all in one place, in one day.

I just felt like pointing at the hacking piece of shit hoping he'll come back with some sort of self-absorbed response about being a guildleader and jealousy lol

[Koota]

Awesome, the biggest shitbag on the server currently has graced his ineptitude all over this thread finally.


Self realization.




Stop being an insufferable whiny cunt.

[Molitoth]

What music fest?

[Loly Taa]

I love how IB getting steamrolled has gone from totally fake propoganda to some sort of fact. There was probably only 1 week where DA got more kills than IB in a given cycle; otherwise we always got the majority (or all). Unless you're counting when we moved to sky and didn't care about the dragons or gods for a while? then ok lol.

I know. I was there. I didn't sleep. I was driven insane by it. Go away. Stop touching me.

My dear, I think not sleeping had a profound effect on your ability to remember things.

It's okay bro, I've prepared a diagram dispelling this myth that IB was always on top of the server. So you know, it can go from being "totally fake propaganda" to... fact ;)

http://themysticalorder.net/ferektar.jpg

by the way, I appreciate the good sportsmanship earlier today at Faydedar guys. I'm being sincere in this.

I hope you'll appreciate me resurrecting your memory for you Ektar! <3

[Harrison]

Self realization.




Stop being an insufferable whiny cunt.

One of the zerglings caught with ShowEQ speaks up in defense of his zerg overlord lawl :cool:

[Ektar]

I forgot that dunnx saying we're not the top means we weren't.

I hope you'll appreciate me pointing out your flawed logic

[Loly Taa]

I forgot that dunnx saying we're not the top means we weren't.

I hope you'll appreciate me pointing out your flawed logic

I got more... but... apparently the lack of sleep has also affected your sense of reason. I'm not going to cut out more pictures to show you, that would be like trying to convince the Jehovah's witness at the door to come be agnostic with me.

[Loly Taa]

I hate to double post, but they have a psychological term for someone like yourself Ektar my dear;

"In short, the True Believer exists in religion, politics, in movements and causes of every kind. For the True Believer, his/her cause has surpassed reason and become a matter of faith. Anyone who questions it has become a mere obstacle to test their faith. Any evidence to the contrary is false simply by virtue of that contradiction.

Any attempt to sway a True Believer is pointless. A True Believer can only be swayed by a serious personal crisis or epiphany, a "Road to Damascus" moment that shifts their faith radically. And when they do change, it's usually just to move on an embrace some new cause to be a True Believer in."

[Ektar]

I'm not sleepy anymore, my reason is quite sharp :p Sorry your chosen picture fails to illustrate your fabricated point. and further, dunnx barely played anymore at that point. A good mole would know that his rank, IB-VIP, meant he wasn't really participated in the guild anymore.

ya, IB was having trouble like I already said. but DA fell first and that's when I let myself go

and not too sure why you're so antagonistic... I mean I didn't do anything to tmo. or were you from DA? I don't know.

[Harrison]

I think she called you a religious zealot lmao

[Uthgaard]

[Sun Dec 05 17:31:41 2010] You have entered Permafrost Caverns.
[Sun Dec 05 17:31:42 2010] [GM] You are currently hidden to all clients
[Sun Dec 05 17:31:59 2010] Players on EverQuest:
[Sun Dec 05 17:31:59 2010] ---------------------------
[Sun Dec 05 17:31:59 2010] [29 Shaman] Chamios (Barbarian)
[Sun Dec 05 17:31:59 2010] [ANONYMOUS] Zilo {Inglourious Basterds}
[Sun Dec 05 17:31:59 2010] [50 Shadow Knight] Transister (Dark Elf) {Bregan D`Aerth}
[Sun Dec 05 17:31:59 2010] [21 Monk] Ikkaku (Human)
[Sun Dec 05 17:31:59 2010] [ANONYMOUS] Llogan
[Sun Dec 05 17:31:59 2010] [ANONYMOUS] Dalnor {Dark Ascension}
[Sun Dec 05 17:31:59 2010] [ANONYMOUS] Snigel {Darkwind}
[Sun Dec 05 17:31:59 2010] [ANONYMOUS] Sloan {Inglourious Basterds}
[Sun Dec 05 17:31:59 2010] There are 8 players in Permafrost Keep.
[Sun Dec 05 17:32:09 2010] Drolgurd tells the guild, 'Phat loots Short Sword*'
[Sun Dec 05 17:32:11 2010] Teleporting to Dalnor.
[Sun Dec 05 17:32:17 2010] Drolgurd tells the guild, 'Ill never give that up'
[Sun Dec 05 17:32:22 2010] Chamios says, 'you guna be campin here a while?'
[Sun Dec 05 17:32:28 2010] Dalnor says, 'yea'
[Sun Dec 05 17:32:32 2010] Dalnor says, 'at least 4 hours'
[Sun Dec 05 17:32:38 2010] You told Dalnor, 'lol'
[Sun Dec 05 17:32:41 2010] Chamios says, 'ok good luck to you'
[Sun Dec 05 17:32:43 2010] Dalnor tells you, '?'
[Sun Dec 05 17:32:50 2010] You told Dalnor, 'you guys are funny'
[Sun Dec 05 17:32:54 2010] Dalnor tells you, 'lol'
[Sun Dec 05 17:33:26 2010] Nizzarr tells you, ':)'
[Sun Dec 05 17:33:32 2010] You told Nizzarr, 'haha'
[Sun Dec 05 17:33:45 2010] You feel the spirit of Norrath enter you.
[Sun Dec 05 17:33:47 2010] Your feet leave the ground.
[Sun Dec 05 17:34:42 2010] Amothiel tells the guild, 'when would vox wind close?'
[Sun Dec 05 17:34:48 2010] Taichi tells the guild, 'well this is COD modern warefare...'
[Sun Dec 05 17:34:54 2010] Taichi tells the guild, 'all about information war'
[Sun Dec 05 17:34:59 2010] Nizzarr tells the guild, 'in like 36 hours'
[Sun Dec 05 17:35:11 2010] Dospak tells the guild, 'Complete Heal on > Heebee <'
[Sun Dec 05 17:35:15 2010] Heebee tells the guild, 'invite me'
[Sun Dec 05 17:35:47 2010] Zereh tells the guild, 'Revive → → Appollo � �'
[Sun Dec 05 17:35:52 2010] Dospak tells the guild, 'Complete Heal on > Heebee <'
[Sun Dec 05 17:36:16 2010] Nizzarr tells the guild, 'hellfire's buff good?'
[Sun Dec 05 17:36:21 2010] You told Nizzarr, 'nice comeback though, the draco was nice, me and rogean were betting that whoever got the first pull would wipe to the adds'
[Sun Dec 05 17:36:26 2010] Hellfire tells the guild, 'working on it '
[Sun Dec 05 17:36:34 2010] Baubarian tells the guild, 'once i get mana for tuna he'll be good~'
[Sun Dec 05 17:36:50 2010] Sochin tells the guild, 'vox window ends thursday12/9 3am (was killed tuesday 30)'
[Sun Dec 05 17:36:55 2010] Sochin tells the guild, 'hehe'
[Sun Dec 05 17:37:05 2010] Daltheb tells the guild, 'bwahahaha'
[Sun Dec 05 17:37:36 2010] Nizzarr tells you, 'I dont know~ kinda need to adjust strategy now. the whole "stays 5-6 minute north of hourglass after aggro" makes the whole thing interesting'
[Sun Dec 05 17:37:38 2010] Suirad tells the guild, '/hands IB a sticker's bar'
[Sun Dec 05 17:37:46 2010] Suirad tells the guild, '"Not going anywhere for awhile?"'

This was probably my favorite raid drama. It never made any headlines, but watching things from behind the scenes, I was cracking up.

[Ektar]

ok ya just spew psycho babble if you want lol. I know I'm right, and if you're right the only explanation is we're arguing two similar, yet different things. This is possible.

[JenJen]

i just love that tmo and da have merged.

its like shit mixing with piss in the toilet.

[Harrison]

TMO was cool until they took in DA.

[JenJen]

yeahhh i know. i just wanted to use that quickly before i forgot it.

[Molitoth]

TMO was cool until they took in DA.

Your hate for Durison really blinds your relations with half the server man, why live this way?

Ps. What bands are you seeing today? Mayhem tour?

[Harrison]

Yes~ \m/

[JenJen]

saying tmo is better than da is like saying piss tastes better than shit

[Molitoth]

Machine Head ftw then!

[JenJen]

im a neutral btw i just cant help trying to get some flames going

[Pheer]

cant wait until 2013 when this thread gets necro bumped in relation to some kind of velious drama

[Pheer]

saying tmo is better than da is like saying piss tastes better than shit

youre into some kinky shit baby

[Alarti0001]

Your hate for Durison really blinds your relations with half the server man, why live this way?

Ps. What bands are you seeing today? Mayhem tour?

Harrison basically lives for Durison it seems. He is like that stalker ex-girlfriend who won't leave you alone after you break up.

[Tajin]

I was in Rusty Long swords, as well as Inglorious Basterds. I can tell you 1st hand that IB uses just as many exploits/MQs/2boxes just as much as any other guild.

I have had my posts deleted about all the shady shit that happened while i was in IB. Here is a list of some of what has happened while i was in IB. I hope this doesn't get deleted:

1. While farming Evil eye in Lguk, i was caught in a loopdeath and i petitioned. While other GMs said no to getting my corpses rezzed, i asked Xzerion who rezzed all my corpses. Although he got yelled at it shouldnt have happened.
2. While in IB vent, Xzerion told us what loot was about to drop on some mobs.
3. Exploiting bugged Amydalgian Knights in PoFear. The knights were chain HTing, so we had our main Enchanter charm one and have it shit on mobs.
4. I've seen people 2boxing
5. RMT, i've seen alot of that. Especially Olympia, and boyfriend shaman, i forget his name.
6. Duping
7. ShowEQ/MQ

While some of the people that had been using hacks/exploits/dupes were banned, they had been in guild for some time and if it weren't for other GMs finding out, they would still be around. Not everyone in this guild is bad, but to say IB/TL are saints is erronious.

[Feachie]

I was in Rusty Long swords, as well as Inglorious Basterds. I can tell you 1st hand that IB uses just as many exploits/MQs/2boxes just as much as any other guild.

I have had my posts deleted about all the shady shit that happened while i was in IB. Here is a list of some of what has happened while i was in IB. I hope this doesn't get deleted:

1. While farming Evil eye in Lguk, i was caught in a loopdeath and i petitioned. While other GMs said no to getting my corpses rezzed, i asked Xzerion who rezzed all my corpses. Although he got yelled at it shouldnt have happened.
2. While in IB vent, Xzerion told us what loot was about to drop on some mobs.
3. Exploiting bugged Amydalgian Knights in PoFear. The knights were chain HTing, so we had our main Enchanter charm one and have it shit on mobs.
4. I've seen people 2boxing
5. RMT, i've seen alot of that. Especially Olympia, and boyfriend shaman, i forget his name.
6. Duping
7. ShowEQ/MQ

While some of the people that had been using hacks/exploits/dupes were banned, they had been in guild for some time and if it weren't for other GMs finding out, they would still be around. Not everyone in this guild is bad, but to say IB/TL are saints is erronious.

such accusations, yet no evidence anywhere. this is why i <3 eq

[Tajin]

I'd like to see them deny it, i don't have any reason to lie, and i hardly play any more so i really dont care if anyone believes me.

[Glitch]

IB/TL

When I joined IB way back in the day, I had heard that they were huge exploiters, dupers, third party app userers, two-boxers and all around huge assholes and crumby guys.
I was like, "It's probably not true, it's just everyone fearing the top guild and trying to justify why they can't be beat", but I kinda really secretly hoped it was true.

When I got in, I was all, "Hay guise aren't we going to train those other guilds? Hayyyy" and they were like, "SORRY GLITCH LET'S KILL THESE MOBS BY THE BOOKS, WANNA TAKE A TRACKING SHIFT?"

and I was all, "omg these goody-two shoes guys are so boring. I have to make it fun with lots of puns and gravity-flux"

[Feachie]

I wasn't asking you for proof, it was just a comment.

[Tajin]

such accusations, yet no evidence anywhere. this is why i <3 eq

[Tajin]

I was in Rusty Long swords, as well as Inglorious Basterds. I can tell you 1st hand that IB uses just as many exploits/MQs/2boxes just as much as any other guild.

I have had my posts deleted about all the shady shit that happened while i was in IB. Here is a list of some of what has happened while i was in IB. I hope this doesn't get deleted:

1. While farming Evil eye in Lguk, i was caught in a loopdeath and i petitioned. While other GMs said no to getting my corpses rezzed, i asked Xzerion who rezzed all my corpses. Although he got yelled at it shouldnt have happened.
2. While in IB vent, Xzerion told us what loot was about to drop on some mobs.
3. Exploiting bugged Amydalgian Knights in PoFear. The knights were chain HTing, so we had our main Enchanter charm one and have it shit on mobs.
4. I've seen people 2boxing
5. RMT, i've seen alot of that. Especially Olympia, and boyfriend shaman, i forget his name.
6. Duping
7. ShowEQ/MQ

While some of the people that had been using hacks/exploits/dupes were banned, they had been in guild for some time and if it weren't for other GMs finding out, they would still be around. Not everyone in this guild is bad, but to say IB/TL are saints is erronious.

[Ektar]

glitch stop talking in say

[Seaweedpimp]

such accusations, yet no evidence anywhere. this is why i <3 eq

Well you might as well believe it. You joined like last week.

[Uthgaard]

1. While farming Evil eye in Lguk, i was caught in a loopdeath and i petitioned. While other GMs said no to getting my corpses rezzed, i asked Xzerion who rezzed all my corpses. Although he got yelled at it shouldnt have happened.


[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] [Listing Corpses for 'tajin']
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [798033] 2010-10-20 11:58:11 gfaydark (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [798122] 2010-10-20 12:44:24 gfaydark (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [801230] 2010-10-21 17:24:03 gfaydark (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [801274] 2010-10-21 17:34:30 crushbone (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [803680] 2010-10-22 16:27:19 gfaydark (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [804177] 2010-10-22 19:37:28 gfaydark (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [804253] 2010-10-22 20:02:10 gfaydark (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [805292] 2010-10-23 01:24:08 steamfont (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [805351] 2010-10-23 01:36:38 steamfont (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [810205] 2010-10-24 15:53:49 crushbone (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [810392] 2010-10-24 16:42:52 crushbone (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [811013] 2010-10-24 20:00:28 crushbone (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [825363] 2010-10-30 00:11:40 befallen (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [825599] 2010-10-30 01:08:46 befallen (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [830437] 2010-10-31 14:25:15 oasis (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [830968] 2010-10-31 17:38:42 gukbottom (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [846302] 2010-11-06 12:01:11 gukbottom (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [846344] 2010-11-06 12:24:33 guktop (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [846685] 2010-11-06 14:48:34 guktop (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [869441] 2010-11-14 11:48:23 gukbottom (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [903068] 2010-11-26 15:32:19 soldunga (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [906439] 2010-11-27 19:22:58 mistmoore (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [907512] 2010-11-28 02:29:40 lfaydark (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [920115] 2010-12-03 00:03:09 mistmoore (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [1027418] 2011-01-17 22:09:04 airplane (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: Yes)

Orly?

Despite it being a crock of shit and your gratuitous, dodgy use of pronouns, we would do that for anyone. Rogean, nilbog and I are the only developers with GM accounts. We don't even have any developers with so little as guide status.

2. While in IB vent, Xzerion told us what loot was about to drop on some mobs.
3. Exploiting bugged Amydalgian Knights in PoFear. The knights were chain HTing, so we had our main Enchanter charm one and have it shit on mobs.
6. Duping

Do go on. What was duped? What was this loot that was about to drop? When was this raid? Are you aware how detailed our encounter logs are? Do you want to see one?

http://i54.tinypic.com/30kubd0.jpg

I eagerly await the opportunity to embarrass you with more logs.


4. I've seen people 2boxing
5. RMT, i've seen alot of that. Especially Olympia, and boyfriend shaman, i forget his name.
7. ShowEQ/MQ

Where are your petitions about these things? That's what I thought.

[Feachie]

Well you might as well believe it. You joined like last week.

and why would i believe shit some random ass disgruntled former member of a guild says? this isn't my first rodeo, i know what kind of people come back and try to stir things up. bet you money he's trash

[getsome]

The way i remember those days before the merge to form Reign.

We raided with both TMO and Trans to get a feel for each guild. Each guild possessed certain qualities. At the time it was felt while TMO had more numbers, their players were a bit more raw. Also we were seeking to find a guild to merge with that would take some of the burden of leading raids from IB personal. The few times we raided with TMO, IB members seemed to carry the majority of the weight and while we waited for someone from TMO to step up, it did not seem to happen.

The decision was made to give it a shot with Trans. Which turned out to be a big mistake. Once our officer core got access to the trans forums they stumbled upon these. Which immidiately led to our reforming IB and parting ways with Trans.

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/3116/transhacks1.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6698/transhacks2.jpg

[Glitterati]

OMG here we go with your stolen screenshots again! Were there people in Trans using MQ, well the old guild leader is banned so what does that say?! Was i comfortable with it being used? Hell no! That's why I spoke up about it the officers and my guild leader! To this day, not one man has come forward and asked me my side of the story, maybe you all lack balls or just can't talk to girls but it's whatever. I know I've been scrutinized by GMs since then, I know a former officer gave his forums account to a GM here and our whole officer forum was read. To keep dragging that damn screenshot all thru the forums like its some kind of holy grail is just going full retard. And lets get real here, when the merge broke up you guys guilded one of our biggest offenders of third party program usage.

[M.Bison]

OMG here we go with your stolen screenshots again! Were there people in Trans using MQ, well the old guild leader is banned so what does that say?! Was i comfortable with it being used? Hell no! That's why I spoke up about it the officers and my guild leader! To this day, not one man has come forward and asked me my side of the story, maybe you all lack balls or just can't talk to girls but it's whatever. I know I've been scrutinized by GMs since then, I know a former officer gave his forums account to a GM here and our whole officer forum was read. To keep dragging that damn screenshot all thru the forums like its some kind of holy grail is just going full retard. And lets get real here, when the merge broke up you guys guilded one of our biggest offenders of third party program usage.

Now tell us how you really feel.

[Trax]

I have to make it fun with lots of puns and gravity-flux"

Glitch, your presence is missed. Come back soon.

[Glitch]

Glitch, your presence is missed. Come back soon.

:D

[Trax]

[Sat Jul 16 03:51:38 2011] Welcome to EverQuest!
[Sat Jul 16 03:51:38 2011] You have entered Veeshan's Peak.
[Sat Jul 16 03:51:38 2011] MESSAGE OF THE DAY: Welcome to Project 1999: The Ruins of Kunark. Visit www.project1999.org (http://www.project1999.org) for news and required play files. Please remember to submit bug reports on the forums, /petition should only be used for immediate character assistance.
<iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/d3D7Y_ycSms" allowfullscreen="" width="425" frameborder="0" height="349"></iframe>

[Koota]

^ Looks legit to me

[Alarti0001]

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/d3D7Y_ycSms" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Lets change this thread to Archer clips imo

[Aadill]

Lets change this thread to Archer clips imo

[xshayla701]

Keep bumping this thread till Monday when I have time to read it

[Harrison]

Awesomesauce watching Tajin get called out on his bullshit in the open. Wonder if he'll come back or not.

[Ektar]

Keep bumping this thread till Monday when I have time to read it

if worst comes to worst you can always click to page 2 >.<

[Trimm]

I remember one time when I was leveling in Oasis, Pyrocat ran by and gave me 50 plat to get started. And a Dragoon Dirk.


...I bet it was duped.

[DocDoom]

Your hate for Durison really blinds your relations with half the server man, why live this way?

Ps. What bands are you seeing today? Mayhem tour?

Fixed - Your hate for Durison really blinds your relations with TMO man, why live this way?

Ps. What bands are you seeing today? Mayhem tour?

I see what you did thar!

[Gwence]

G13 I'm pleased to announce that your title of dumbest fucking person on the planet has been passed to Loly.

[Alarti0001]

G13 I'm pleased to announce that your title of dumbest fucking person on the planet has been passed to Loly.

Lol @ Gwence trying to shrug off their title

[Amelinda]

[Sat Jul 16 03:51:38 2011] Welcome to EverQuest!
[Sat Jul 16 03:51:38 2011] You have entered Veeshan's Peak.
[Sat Jul 16 03:51:38 2011] MESSAGE OF THE DAY: Welcome to Project 1999: The Ruins of Kunark. Visit www.project1999.org (http://www.project1999.org) for news and required play files. Please remember to submit bug reports on the forums, /petition should only be used for immediate character assistance.

Oh Trax. you are so silly. i try zoning into vp every day. hoping one day it'll be connected:

[Sat Jul 16 3:38:36 2011] You say, '#zone veeshan'
[Sat Jul 16 3:38:38 2011] This zone is not ready to receive visitors yet. Please try again in a few moments.
sigh....... sorry to spoil your fun. :D

[Shiftin]

Oh Trax. you are so silly. i try zoning into vp every day. hoping one day it'll be connected:




sigh....... sorry to spoil your fun. :D

OMG we're only MOMENTS AWAY!!!

[Loly Taa]

G13 I'm pleased to announce that your title of dumbest fucking person on the planet has been passed to Loly.

Whoa, Gwence? I've never seen you post here. It's good to meet you! I assure you, I am not the dumbest person on the planet, and as Trax can confirm. I have awesome source codes that supposedly equate to DB hax.

It was a pleasure to meet you though, maybe it'll be you playing your character next time we happen upon each other? :D

by the way......

Are we having fun yet? =)

[Loly Taa]

The way i remember those days before the merge to form Reign.

We raided with both TMO and Trans to get a feel for each guild. Each guild possessed certain qualities. At the time it was felt while TMO had more numbers, their players were a bit more raw. Also we were seeking to find a guild to merge with that would take some of the burden of leading raids from IB personal. The few times we raided with TMO, IB members seemed to carry the majority of the weight and while we waited for someone from TMO to step up, it did not seem to happen.

The decision was made to give it a shot with Trans. Which turned out to be a big mistake. Once our officer core got access to the trans forums they stumbled upon these. Which immidiately led to our reforming IB and parting ways with Trans.

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/3116/transhacks1.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6698/transhacks2.jpg

I'm sorry if I'm mistaken, but doesn't Glitterati run Taken to this day?

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

You are sorry, and you are mistaken. I run Taken. If you want corruption you folks need to look in the mirror. The transparent attempts at proving there is fairness and equality on this server is laughable. That log of us in fearplane shows nothing other then what I already knew. Right Wet paper Bag?

[Pyrocat]

I'd like to see them deny it, i don't have any reason to lie, and i hardly play any more so i really dont care if anyone believes me.

You seriously have been using the same troll verbatim for as long as I've seen you posting on these forums. New material bro, try it out.

[Gwence]

Whoa, Gwence? I've never seen you post here. It's good to meet you! I assure you, I am not the dumbest person on the planet, and as Trax can confirm. I have awesome source codes that supposedly equate to DB hax.

It was a pleasure to meet you though, maybe it'll be you playing your character next time we happen upon each other? :D

by the way......

Are we having fun yet? =)

uhh, what??

p.s. That's an awesome pic of Jason Bourne

[Loly Taa]

uhh, what??

p.s. That's an awesome pic of Jason Bourne

p.s. thx yew

[Tajin]

You seriously have been using the same troll verbatim for as long as I've seen you posting on these forums. New material bro, try it out.

new material? lol just letting people know, their is alot of new people and they should know what happens, my statements never change..

[Tajin]

[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] [Listing Corpses for 'tajin']
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [798033] 2010-10-20 11:58:11 gfaydark (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [798122] 2010-10-20 12:44:24 gfaydark (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [801230] 2010-10-21 17:24:03 gfaydark (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [801274] 2010-10-21 17:34:30 crushbone (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [803680] 2010-10-22 16:27:19 gfaydark (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [804177] 2010-10-22 19:37:28 gfaydark (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [804253] 2010-10-22 20:02:10 gfaydark (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [805292] 2010-10-23 01:24:08 steamfont (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [805351] 2010-10-23 01:36:38 steamfont (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [810205] 2010-10-24 15:53:49 crushbone (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [810392] 2010-10-24 16:42:52 crushbone (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [811013] 2010-10-24 20:00:28 crushbone (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [825363] 2010-10-30 00:11:40 befallen (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [825599] 2010-10-30 01:08:46 befallen (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [830437] 2010-10-31 14:25:15 oasis (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [830968] 2010-10-31 17:38:42 gukbottom (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [846302] 2010-11-06 12:01:11 gukbottom (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [846344] 2010-11-06 12:24:33 guktop (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [846685] 2010-11-06 14:48:34 guktop (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [869441] 2010-11-14 11:48:23 gukbottom (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [903068] 2010-11-26 15:32:19 soldunga (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [906439] 2010-11-27 19:22:58 mistmoore (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [907512] 2010-11-28 02:29:40 lfaydark (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [920115] 2010-12-03 00:03:09 mistmoore (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: No)
[Fri Jul 22 17:57:43 2011] > [1027418] 2011-01-17 22:09:04 airplane (Decayed: Yes, Rezzed: Yes)

Orly?

Despite it being a crock of shit and your gratuitous, dodgy use of pronouns, we would do that for anyone. Rogean, nilbog and I are the only developers with GM accounts. We don't even have any developers with so little as guide status.



Do go on. What was duped? What was this loot that was about to drop? When was this raid? Are you aware how detailed our encounter logs are? Do you want to see one?

http://i54.tinypic.com/30kubd0.jpg

I eagerly await the opportunity to embarrass you with more logs.




Where are your petitions about these things? That's what I thought.


ROFL!!! Hope you realzie this happened 2 years ago or so lol. Man you really go all out on research, i'm not trying to get u mad lol, cause i know u guys do alot for the server, especially you. But everything that i said happened before u were even GM. It happened when the server 1st started. So if you really want to go all out on ur research again, go check the logs on Penoy and check his rez logs. In fact go ask Xzerion about it lol.

If you want to see the exploited Amy Knight, go check our 1st fear raid. Check the logs on that raid when Xzerion/Gnomercy charmed them. Believe me i have no reason to lie.

People hacking i've seen Magus / Tiki / Reiker and a few others i can't remember who were using outside programs but i cant remember their names. It was a year ago or so. I know some of them were hacked but they were open about it in vent.

As for RMT, go check logs for Olympia and his Shaman roomate buddy(forget his name), I was in vent when they openly said they were selling shit for RMT.

As for Duping, i can't definitely say it was going on but i know Gnomercy was duping gems and such. Again check logs about it.

Plz respond back, would love to see what you have to say.

[Tajin]

You have to realize when they rezzed me during my death loop, i had done this at least 3-4 times. And there weren't any clerics above level 30 or so at the time.

[Tajin]

You guys jump to conclusions to fast w/o doing better research -=\.... no biggy i can explain it all to you

[Loly Taa]

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[Pheer]

You have to realize when they rezzed me during my death loop, i had done this at least 3-4 times. And there weren't any clerics above level 30 or so at the time.

that would have been before IB then if there wasnt even level 30 clerics yet

explain to me how that shows corruption and not xzerion being a nice guy who felt sorry for one of the higher levels on the server losing a shitload of exp

[Trax]

Lets change this thread to Archer clips imo


Ask and you shall receive.

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[Tillan]

Hasbinbad = biggest loser, piece of shit, arrogant asshole to ever play on this server. Definition of scum.

Not to mention he rage quit IB at least twice.