whole lotta vaccine injuries

[starkind]

This article is worth a chuckle or two.

https://www.livescience.com/amp/coronavirus-may-infect-fat-tissue

[Jimjam]

That makes it a targeted attack on America by the Chinese Batman :o

[starkind]

I don't think it's the Chinese government. Like it wasn't planned and targeted by the government.

I do think it's a big set of international $$$$ firms, shell companies, with registries in China that was playing fast and loose with HIV, rabies, hpv type virii exploiting China's cheeper less regulated economy, disappearing undesirables MKULTRA, MJ12 style and feeding Chinese officials money. Bribes. Blackmail. Because that is *easeier* in China, and harder for the Chinese poor to do anything about vs if the lab was on lvl 13 of a Boston firm. Also China has been more stable to invest in. Less likely to be burned down in an insurrection or race riots.

I think the fat thing backfired. It was supposed to target young. Skinny. Healthy females of childbearing age. It wasn't an accident that it got out in the wild.

Maybe the Chinese government wasn't going to allow it. Xi got impatient and annoyed with us and they where probably promised WMDs and supersoldiers by the illuminazi who developed it. So they looked the other way and disappeared city ordinance police that got nosey for the baddies.

Would be epic lols if a single thread wiggled within an "air America " style "fake" CIA company. I don't think I'll be digging that deep tho the Voltron vax company was lol.

[starkind]

Hehehe

Thy Affluenzic (affluent for u plebes) have a bazillion fancy words for being poisoned and put to pasture.

https://i.imgur.com/NZqSKs5.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/bFAU135.jpeg

[Jibartik]

If the first horseman rides on a white horse, carries a bow, and is given a crown to conquest, perhaps invoking Pestilence, Christ, or the Antichrist.

Im going to go ahead and say the white horse is pestilence, and the bow is being able to use lockdowns and authority to solve problems and the crown is us being conditioned/giving our leadership the right of a king again.

[TheBardo]

800,000 dead americans because they were too stupid to get a vaccine. I don't see you protesting the mmr shot dipshit.

[Swish]

I've had mine but I think part of the problem is it wasn't thoroughly tested before releasing it to the general population, and hasn't been modified since it's release.

[Gravydoo II]

800k have died since brandon installed as puppet prez?

800k dead since RD invited the chinese to test a biological agent on the american people for 12 million dollars in a chinese bank account in his name.

Its pretty easy to make shit up.

[Toxigen]

enjoy your boosters for life, sheep

[Penish]

fear porn using aging boomers as a catalyst, drinks ur koolaids retards

[HawkMasterson1999]

This thread is archived which means you're all on record for the dumbass shit you said. While human beings are capable of logic, it's not a primary motivating factor. It's not even close.

[Jibartik]

Pay attention hawkmasterson1999 those people are going to be your bosses soon.

[Gravydoo II]

I guess if you're dead its one let vote for tucker or rd, whoever takes over in 24.

[Whale biologist]

This thread is archived which means you're all on record for the dumbass shit you said. While human beings are capable of logic, it's not a primary motivating factor. It's not even close.

Can you show us the dumbass shit our social credits will be diminished for?

[TheConsortium]

FBI open up

[Toxigen]

lmao

daily reminder if you got your clot shot you're a dipshit

[thedonkdonk]

Please keep not getting shots. Please quit your job in protest of mandates. Please keep not trusting hospitals. You're dead parents totally owned those libs by not taking a vaccine. Please keep fighting the good fight. Inhale all the farts just to prove how dumb those libs are.

[Penish]

Please keep not getting shots. Please quit your job in protest of mandates. Please keep not trusting hospitals. You're dead parents totally owned those libs by not taking a vaccine. Please keep fighting the good fight. Inhale all the farts just to prove how dumb those libs are.

three shots in under a year, you're a fucking idiot

[Elizondo]

Please keep not getting shots. Please quit your job in protest of mandates. Please keep not trusting hospitals. You're dead parents totally owned those libs by not taking a vaccine. Please keep fighting the good fight. Inhale all the farts just to prove how dumb those libs are.

bro you want to dirty your dna nobody stoppin you

[HawkMasterson1999]

This thread is archived which means you're all on record for the dumbass shit you said. While human beings are capable of logic, it's not a primary motivating factor. It's not even close.

I love how I never directly indicated what side I was taking in my post but the dumbasses naturally knew who they were and attacked me accordingly.

[Jibartik]

Are the progressives going to be your future bosses or will big daddies?

Hard to say :o

[starkind]

TLDR basically the same side effects from the vaccine/boosters u get from the virus.

maybe humanity is just dirty and filthy and we should check ourselves b4 we wreck ourselves

thats all i've ever been saying and 'lol'ing about

[Gravydoo II]

One time, when I was in boot camp, I got EIGHT shots in ONE DAY! I guess everyone in the military must be a liberal dummy, huh? Every single one of them was given the vaccine. Why wont you talk bad about the troops and tell us how stupid they are? All the marines, army, navy, air force, coast guard, national guard, space force, all DOD and I bet all contractors with the DOD as well. You're talking about millions of service people and civilians that do the day to day running of this country.

How come you wont call them "fucking stupid" but you'll say it to us? The selective outrage for people wanting to live a normal life is just insane. If they could force their religion on your kids, they would. If you ask them to look out for their fellow americans, they cry and call you a fucking idiot.

Its no wonder not one of these "patriots" have served in the military. They think everyone around them is a fucking idiot and dont respect anyone.

[Jibartik]

answer: your bosses are both the loudly vax'd and not vax'd, because that is what makes up the: estaaaaablishmennnnnt.

The bottom of both sides.

f@*( the establishment!

[Toxigen]

https://twitter.com/akheriaty/status/1469832293007069184

[Jibartik]

everytime I am cold I shiver like a little tiny dog and now everytime that happens im like "fuck im going to give myself a heart attack because of the vax if I dont calm down"

lol still alive but still terrified.

[Elizondo]

https://twitter.com/akheriaty/status/1469832293007069184

a few years from now there could be all kinds of weird diseases and health anomalies that start poppin up from these jabs

peepz playin russian roulette with their dna

[Jibartik]

a few years from now there could be all kinds of weird diseases and health anomalies that start poppin up from these jabs

peepz playin russian roulette with their dna

https://youtu.be/ZQjpH9WwxiY?t=1478

:cool:

[Whale biologist]

https://twitter.com/akheriaty/status/1469832293007069184

bad bot

[Gravydoo II]

Wow, love the language. How many people died from the vaccine, exactly? Since you got all your data there with your twitter feed featuring kevin sorbo giving medical advice.. When I looked up the term "adverse effect" in medical terms it says the following;
An unexpected medical problem that happens during treatment with a drug or other therapy. Adverse effects may be mild, moderate, or severe, and may be caused by something other than the drug or therapy being given. Also called adverse event.


The guy says we should be alarmed but by what, exactly? Maybe if he went into more detail instead of just saying "BE SCARED!! LOOK! BIG NUMBER!" I might be inclined to believe him. I guess when your twitter feed is kevin sorbo, some MD, and joe rogan you're gonna go with the apple paste.

[Gravydoo II]

Wait wait, I thought conservatives get banned from twitter.. how are they using twitter if they are censored all the time by social media?? Doesnt make sense.. Almost like, its a made up issue. How can you link twitter when youve said it yourself republicans are banned from it or censored? Weird..

[Gatordash]

TLDR basically the same side effects from the vaccine/boosters u get from the virus.
Yeah thats why I'm skipping the booster. So far it seems like deaths from the new variant are pretty low, and I got so sick from the 2nd Pfizer shot that I'd rather get omicron I think than deal with the vaccine side effects again.

[Toxigen]

imagine a vaccine so safe and effective you need propaganda to get dumb people to keep taking it

bSHz5S3yIzg

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/VFGkzUa.png
https://i.imgur.com/wqq51jq.png
https://i.imgur.com/z1dTJqb.png

🤫

[Jimjam]

a few years from now there could be all kinds of weird diseases and health anomalies that start poppin up from these jabs

peepz playin russian roulette with their dna

JUST gonna get the antijab jab when that happens.

[HawkMasterson1999]

Electric cars are destroying the planet

[Whale biologist]

Electric cars are destroying the planet

Not yet they aren't! Scale.

[unsunghero]

I have the vaxx so I’m allowed to post this

[starkind]

channel4 from utah did a cool news thing were they said this girl had heart attacks cuz vax

[Toxigen]

https://i.imgur.com/l5gKRxa.png

[Jibartik]

You can tell the vax is killing you if you dont read that tweet in Christian slaters voice in your head

[F0rmsh1fter]

I wanna say it was 1986 when a special vaccine injury court was established, and has since awarded over 3 BILLION dollars to victims of vaccine injury because vaccine injury isn’t real and you’re just a paranoid conspiracy theorist

[starkind]

we wouldn't need vaccines if people were

1 clean
2 hygenic
3 ate good food
3a self sufficient
4 didn't travel freely too and from places we should glass and not do business with
5 were paid a living wage ( the markets weren't fixed by monopolies and evergreen types )
6 when they got gross we did something about it
7 we didn't flood the environment with plastic and heavy metal
8 didn't rely on conveniences and instead had to survive in reality

[Jibartik]

We wouldn’t have the virus if we didn’t have technology in progress and we all just lived in the field and danced in the rain.

[robayon]

Have any of you tried cbd? Recently I was told that cbd is very good at relieving pain and now I want to order cbd gummies, which you can find click (https://www.cornbreadhemp.com/product/full-spectrum-cbd-gummies/) here. I'm not entirely sure how this will work with the vaccine I recently delivered. But other people write that cbd has no side effects.I have found it does nothing for me personally, but delta8 works pretty well if you have that where youre at it's worth a try anyways

Usually because of pain from an old shoulder injury

[nostalgiaquest]

I read an article online, well the title anyways, that says cannabis is being used to treat covid. Now I’m invincible!

[robayon]

I use it to treat my cannabis deficiency

[Jibartik]

I wish some megalomaniac payed 1000 people to smoke weed in a warehouse and then gave them all covid to see what happened.

[Toxigen]

imagine if the vaccine worked

(lol)

[Gatordash]

imagine if the vaccine worked

(lol)

But then I wouldn't get upvotes on reddit for my open letter saying how my hospital is getting overrun with this new covid wave :mad:

[F0rmsh1fter]

I read an article online, well the title anyways, that says cannabis is being used to treat covid. Now I’m invincible!

One of the recent articles trying to shift blame from covid “vaccines” to literally anything else said that cannabis causes heart attacks. Some other things they’ve claimed cause heart attacks:

Exercise
Being an infant
Being healthy
Being in your 20s
Drinking water
Winter

[Reiwa]

But then I wouldn't get upvotes on reddit for my open letter saying how my hospital is getting overrun with this new covid wave :mad:

ICUs lacking elastic capacity is the problem in the first place.

[starkind]

military dictatorship is the only way if you aren't in the military u die

[Gravydoo II]

To join the military you gotta get vaccinated. LOL

[unsunghero]

I read an article online, well the title anyways, that says cannabis is being used to treat covid. Now I’m invincible!

Maybe it works by smoking enough of it makes you so high you forget you have covid?

[Kich867]

I wanna say it was 1986 when a special vaccine injury court was established, and has since awarded over 3 BILLION dollars to victims of vaccine injury because vaccine injury isn’t real and you’re just a paranoid conspiracy theorist

It sure was! That court was created to ensure vaccines continued to be created! In fact, from 2006 to 2019, over 4 billion vaccines were distributed leading to 8,681 petitions to that court, of which 6,190 were either compensated or settled outside of court.

~6200 issues from ~4.1 billion vaccines over a ~13 year period sure sounds like vaccine injury is super common and something everyone should be terrified of! Definitely not paranoia and vaccine injury is definitely an epidemic.

Interestingly though, despite how dangerous the COVID-19 vaccine is, and how common vaccine injury is and how much money can be made if you're legitimately hurt by it, there's not that many petitions in 2021! In fact there were more issues in 1991 and 2003 from the Hep-B vaccine and honestly not really sure what 2003 was.

All of this info freely available here updated as of Jan 1 2022: https://www.hrsa.gov/sites/default/files/hrsa/vaccine-compensation/data/vicp-monthly-report-template-01-01-22.pdf

[Midfrost]

Well yeah frankly, if god made me then I do have a bone to pick with him.

what the fuck is going on with this weak fleshy body, calcite aggregate endoskeleton? Fuck that. We break so damn easily. Subject to cuts, breaks, disease, again, Fuck That.

If "god" is everything you bible thumpers say he is, then he had every opportunity to create humans with a titanium alloy endoskeleton, diamond teeth, carbon fiber skin, and a vastly, significantly more efficient means of fuel.

But no, he made us softer than cotton balls.

I think this may be the most stupid thing I've read on a forum.

IF any such an animal would evolve on this planet, how well do you think all the other ones would fare?

Has humanity not already proven their dominance over the animal kingdom?
Intelligence and Creative Imagination are both orders of magnitude greater than any of the purported "super-faculties" you listed.

You've got something to say about Stoichiometry? The only way to get more efficient that our body is to actually be a plant, to do actual photosynthesis.

Or perhaps you have this lofty dream notion about what the meaning of life is?

Perhaps you even think it's... "winning"?

Rofl

[Midfrost]

It sure was! That court was created to ensure vaccines continued to be created! In fact, from 2006 to 2019, over 4 billion vaccines were distributed leading to 8,681 petitions to that court, of which 6,190 were either compensated or settled outside of court.

~6200 issues from ~4.1 billion vaccines over a ~13 year period sure sounds like vaccine injury is super common and something everyone should be terrified of! Definitely not paranoia and vaccine injury is definitely an epidemic.

Interestingly though, despite how dangerous the COVID-19 vaccine is, and how common vaccine injury is and how much money can be made if you're legitimately hurt by it, there's not that many petitions in 2021! In fact there were more issues in 1991 and 2003 from the Hep-B vaccine and honestly not really sure what 2003 was.

All of this info freely available here updated as of Jan 1 2022: https://www.hrsa.gov/sites/default/files/hrsa/vaccine-compensation/data/vicp-monthly-report-template-01-01-22.pdf

"Demyelinization" - look it up, it's likely we all suffer to different degrees from it, due to vaccinology's rampant craze, and judging just how lucrative pharma is.

[Midfrost]

Maybe it works by smoking enough of it makes you so high you forget you have covid?

Yeah, that's it, the head on the nail right here! You deserve a carrot! :p

You chill to the point of not caring about media-propaganda, and also not getting fussed over a seasonal cold. (Nor Chimaeric Gain-of-Function concoctions unleashed upon humanity.)

[nostalgiaquest]

^^
This guy needs to get high

[unsunghero]

how much money can be made if you're legitimately hurt by it, there's not that many petitions in 2021!

I don’t think you can sue for covid vaccine side effects, I think you have to sign a waiver dismissing the manufacturer of liability for those

Buuut, if a workplace has a vaccine mandate, and the vaccine seriously injures or kills an employee, that might be considered a workplace injury and the employer liable. Although it would have to be proven that the vaccine directly caused the injury or death

My employer has a vaccine mandate and I didn’t sign any waivers from the employer before getting one

[Kich867]

"Demyelinization" - look it up, it's likely we all suffer to different degrees from it, due to vaccinology's rampant craze, and judging just how lucrative pharma is.

Definitely, hit up the HRSA! You're owed hundreds of thousands of dollars, or even millions! Fun fact the barrier of proof is even lower than normal courts, all you have to do is provide just about any evidence whatsoever and you're issued a payout!

In fact, 80% of the petitions to the HRSA settle out of court, meaning that no determination of injury was even made, all it requires is basically any sliver of evidence that happened that they wouldn't want to bother contesting it in court and you could get a smooth million dollar payout.

With how rampant vaccine injury is and how everyone knows someone who's been affected, we can all make a lot of money!

[Kich867]

I don’t think you can sue for covid vaccine side effects, I think you have to sign a waiver dismissing the manufacturer of liability for those

Buuut, if a workplace has a vaccine mandate, and the vaccine seriously injures or kills an employee, that might be considered a workplace injury and the employer liable. Although it would have to be proven that the vaccine directly caused the injury or death

But that's the best part! The manufacturer isn't liable to begin with, that's the entire point of the court and why it was instituted in the first place.

The bar of evidence required in this court is lower than other courts--you don't require proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the vaccine did it, you just need any evidence suggesting it did! Go get that skrilla friend!

Oh, and to be clear, you aren't suing. Again, lower and less complicated level of court. You're just petitioning the court about your situation, providing evidence, they make a determination if you need to go to court or if they're going to settle, and you're on your way! You could be one of the ~8,500 people in history since 1986 to get a payout!

[Midfrost]

^^
This guy needs to get high

That didn't go as you had intended.
Alas, I'm quite literally sat here with a joint between my lips as I'm writing these words.
But you're right, I need to get higher, "ascension" is the name of the game, baby. ;)

Disclaimer: Cannabis cannot achieve for any one individual the experience of ascension, "Kanebosm" is merely a tool with which vastly different frequential fields may find common ground. Kind-of like the honorable & ancient indigenous' "peace pipe".

[unsunghero]

But that's the best part! The manufacturer isn't liable to begin with, that's the entire point of the court and why it was instituted in the first place.

The bar of evidence required in this court is lower than other courts--you don't require proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the vaccine did it, you just need any evidence suggesting it did! Go get that skrilla friend!

Oh, and to be clear, you aren't suing. Again, lower and less complicated level of court. You're just petitioning the court about your situation, providing evidence, they make a determination if you need to go to court or if they're going to settle, and you're on your way! You could be one of the ~8,500 people in history since 1986 to get a payout!

*knock on wood* yea never had a workplace injury so dunno the exact process

I probably missed my chance to get some sweet myocarditis money, since I believe that tends to manifest in the first few weeks to a month after the vaxx and it’s been a couple months now for me

But my heart can take a beating anyway. You could shoot me with a vaxx every day and I could take it. I am due for first booster in June but not gonna get it for 3 reasons: 1. Pfizer has said their booster doesn’t work against Omicron recently, and 2. My employer only mandates the vaxx not the booster and 3. I beat covid in 2020 easily no vaxx

[F0rmsh1fter]

It sure was! That court was created to ensure vaccines continued to be created! In fact, from 2006 to 2019, over 4 billion vaccines were distributed leading to 8,681 petitions to that court, of which 6,190 were either compensated or settled outside of court.

~6200 issues from ~4.1 billion vaccines over a ~13 year period sure sounds like vaccine injury is super common and something everyone should be terrified of! Definitely not paranoia and vaccine injury is definitely an epidemic.

Interestingly though, despite how dangerous the COVID-19 vaccine is, and how common vaccine injury is and how much money can be made if you're legitimately hurt by it, there's not that many petitions in 2021! In fact there were more issues in 1991 and 2003 from the Hep-B vaccine and honestly not really sure what 2003 was.

All of this info freely available here updated as of Jan 1 2022: https://www.hrsa.gov/sites/default/files/hrsa/vaccine-compensation/data/vicp-monthly-report-template-01-01-22.pdf
So basically what you’re saying is, vaccine injury is more common than death from covid

[Kich867]

*knock on wood* yea never had a workplace injury so dunno the exact process

I probably missed my chance to get some sweet myocarditis money, since I believe that tends to manifest in the first few weeks to a month after the vaxx and it’s been a couple months now for me

But my heart can take a beating anyway. You could shoot me with a vaxx every day and I could take it. I am due for first booster in June but not gonna get it for 3 reasons: 1. Pfizer has said their booster doesn’t work against Omicron recently, and 2. My employer only mandates the vaxx not the booster and 3. I beat covid in 2020 easily no vaxx

Haha! I hear you! But you didn't miss out on anything, just provide them any evidence that the vaccine caused myocarditis in you and you'd likely get a payout!

Given how rare side effects are, sometimes massive payouts are given out just by the proximity in time between getting the vaccine and having something bad happen to you! The big payouts are usually ones where you suffer nerve damage, amounting in the tens of millions of dollars in payouts. Sadly your lawyer gets a lot of it but its still a ton of money. Due to the extreme rarity in any serious side effects of vaccines, they can't actually _prove_ the vaccine didn't cause it or that you had a serious reaction to it, although allergic reactions to vaccines tend to be pretty immediate.

All we have to do now is figure out why so few people are petitioning this well known court! I mean, even people here on this little elf sim forum knew about it! I certainly have faith that it isn't just a lot of people lying about their experience for attention! No one in this day and age would ever do that!

[Midfrost]

So basically what you’re saying is, vaccine injury is more common than death from covid

Yes. Hands down. Without a doubt.

Had there not been for monetary incentive for COVID-reporting, as well as the highly flawed Corman-Drosten report, there would be no "deaths due to C.Ovidus".

[Kich867]

So basically what you’re saying is, vaccine injury is more common than death from covid

Ha! Exactly friend, between 1986 and 2019 covid-19 probably killed less than 8500 people! I'm glad you brought up that court to raise awareness! Given your enthusiasm, it sounds like you're all for government based programs like this one!

Now more people can learn about being paid out with virtually any evidence whatsoever of being injured by vaccines you could be paid out millions of dollars!

All it takes is basically any sliver of evidence!

[Kich867]

Yes. Hands down. Without a doubt.

Had there not been for monetary incentive for COVID-reporting, as well as the highly flawed Corman-Drosten report, there would be no "deaths due to C.Ovidus".

Ha! You're exactly right friend, our healthcare system is definitely profit driven! So much so in fact it drives people to do the craziest things. Unfortunately that's a prerequisite of our healthcare system though! We need to let healthcare to be this profit-driven and hungry, otherwise we won't get quality doctors!

Fortunately for us friend, we live in a dichotomy in which we simultaneously need healthcare to be outrageously expensive in order to attract talented doctors and other healthcare professionals but also lament them for existing in the system we've created! Don't worry, everything is under control!

[F0rmsh1fter]

Ha! Exactly friend, between 1986 and 2019 covid-19 probably killed less than 8500 people! I'm glad you brought up that court to raise awareness! Given your enthusiasm, it sounds like you're all for government based programs like this one!

Now more people can learn about being paid out with virtually any evidence whatsoever of being injured by vaccines you could be paid out millions of dollars!

All it takes is basically any sliver of evidence!

Even with all the inflated numbers (like when they were marking everything as covid related death at first for profit) covid still has a lower mortality rate than the flu, which magically disappeared last year.

[Midfrost]

Ha! You're exactly right friend, our healthcare system is definitely profit driven! So much so in fact it drives people to do the craziest things. Unfortunately that's a prerequisite of our healthcare system though! We need to let healthcare to be this profit-driven and hungry, otherwise we won't get quality doctors!

Fortunately for us friend, we live in a dichotomy in which we simultaneously need healthcare to be outrageously expensive in order to attract talented doctors and other healthcare professionals but also lament them for existing in the system we've created! Don't worry, everything is under control!

The best healers work without payment. I can assure you of that.
Greed does not breed excellence, quite the opposite, it breeds slouth behavior, and a lazy mind.

[Kich867]

Even with all the inflated numbers (like when they were marking everything as covid related death at first for profit) covid still has a lower mortality rate than the flu, which magically disappeared last year.

Right on friend! It sure does, fortunately when medical professionals refer to influenza it's the sum of various influenza strains since there's so many of them! Isn't that fun? It's kind of like comparing Covid-19 to heart disease, of which there's dozens!

I rest easy at night knowing that Covid-19 is a single strain of coronavirus that is often compared to the sum of dozens of other illnesses! Fortunately for us, side effects of the flu are extremely similar to Covid-19 and the same number of people are intubated every year for the flu as Covid-19!

I'm just thankful that most people are prepared for unexpected ER visits that cost thousands of dollars! If they weren't, they'd have to choose between not getting medical attention or being in debt! Everything is a-ok!

[Kich867]

The best healers work without payment. I can assure you of that.
Greed does not breed excellence, quite the opposite, it breeds slouth behavior, and a lazy mind.

Haha! I tell my shamans that every time I go to see them! Unfortunately friend not many people have access to shamans, and go seek out medical doctors! Luckily we've established a system in which hospitals and doctors are for-profit and exist in an ecosystem in which health insurance arbitrarily inflates and sets prices because none of it matters!

I sleep soundly knowing my health insurance can arbitrarily decide not to cover something my doctor says I need! Fortunately for us healthcare professionals have to sometimes order multiple tests you absolutely don't require first in order to get health insurance to agree to pay for the thing you do need! The system works!

[unsunghero]

Right on friend! It sure does, fortunately when medical professionals refer to influenza it's the sum of various influenza strains since there's so many of them! Isn't that fun? It's kind of like comparing Covid-19 to heart disease, of which there's dozens!

I rest easy at night knowing that Covid-19 is a single strain of coronavirus that is often compared to the sum of dozens of other illnesses! Fortunately for us, side effects of the flu are extremely similar to Covid-19 and the same number of people are intubated every year for the flu as Covid-19!

I'm just thankful that most people are prepared for unexpected ER visits that cost thousands of dollars! If they weren't, they'd have to choose between not getting medical attention or being in debt! Everything is a-ok!

Well if you’re below the poverty line, it’s all completely covered, even ER visits

If you’re working, or if you’re surfing the insurance marketplace, you usually have some flexibility in plan choice. The thousands of dollars you will owe is usually gonna be your deductible. For example myself, I picked a plan with a $4k deductible, so if I get my arm cut off, I pay $4k, insurance covers the rest. I picked this deductible because it’s something I knew with my income I could (barely lol) afford, and also because barring some horrible thing outside my control (which is always possible), I am very healthy and wouldn’t see myself needing a lot of procedures

My relatives with a history of health issues have plans with no deductible or low deductible because they anticipate needing to have possibly expensive procedures done. They do have to pay more for those per month tho obviously

But undeniably the poor and the rich are pretty set, healthcare wise. It’s the middle class who can be in a jam, especially if they are working full time for an employer who doesn’t offer healthcare plans

[robayon]

... Is that a defense of for-profit healthcare?

[unsunghero]

... Is that a defense of for-profit healthcare?

Just a statement of fact. Maybe anecdotal, but for every job I’ve had that offered healthcare plans, I had a tier of choices and the knowledge of what my deductible would be ahead of time. I made the choice on what part of my paycheck I would sacrifice based on what deductible I could afford and how much I anticipated needing to use it

It was simply not possible for me to be sidelined with some shocking “you got in a car accident and now you owe the hospital $30,000!” because that’s not how deductibles work

It’s still (I recently checked this) not possible to be disqualified due to pre-existing conditions, so that’s not a thing anymore. And I’ve never had something deemed not covered. If a doctor ordered it, it was considered medically necessary. Nor have I heard of others reporting this. I’m not saying it’s not possible, but I personally don’t think this is occurring frequently

Our current healthcare is a mix of for-profit and socialized. I have yet to see a proposition that can create the trillions of dollars we would need to provide free healthcare for everyone in America (I’m aware other countries have completely socialized medicine tho). Obviously if I thought it was possible to give everyone free healthcare without any negatives (because negatives can sometimes come with this, I’ve heard), I’d be all for it

If you have a proposal on how it can be done based on how X country does it, I’ve probably heard it before, and tbh wouldn’t delve to deep into it

[robayon]

You and I have had wildly different experiences with what I assume to be American healthcare

[Reiwa]

Our current healthcare is a mix of for-profit and socialized. I have yet to see a proposition that can create the trillions of dollars we would need to provide free healthcare for everyone in America (I’m aware other countries have completely socialized medicine tho). Obviously if I thought it was possible to give everyone free healthcare without any negatives (because negatives can sometimes come with this, I’ve heard), I’d be all for it.

There's no road from here to there that doesn't involve ruining a whole lotta lives.

I liked Butt's idea best - medicare for all who want it. Two birds with one stone, IYKWIM. :p

[Kich867]

Just a statement of fact. Maybe anecdotal, but for every job I’ve had that offered healthcare plans, I had a tier of choices and the knowledge of what my deductible would be ahead of time. I made the choice on what part of my paycheck I would sacrifice based on what deductible I could afford and how much I anticipated needing to use it

It was simply not possible for me to be sidelined with some shocking “you got in a car accident and now you owe the hospital $30,000!” because that’s not how deductibles work

It’s still (I recently checked this) not possible to be disqualified due to pre-existing conditions, so that’s not a thing anymore. And I’ve never had something deemed not covered. If a doctor ordered it, it was considered medically necessary. Nor have I heard of others reporting this. I’m not saying it’s not possible, but I personally don’t think this is occurring frequently

Our current healthcare is a mix of for-profit and socialized. I have yet to see a proposition that can create the trillions of dollars we would need to provide free healthcare for everyone in America (I’m aware other countries have completely socialized medicine tho). Obviously if I thought it was possible to give everyone free healthcare without any negatives (because negatives can sometimes come with this, I’ve heard), I’d be all for it

If you have a proposal on how it can be done based on how X country does it, I’ve probably heard it before, and tbh wouldn’t delve to deep into it

Fortunately friend life is all about trade offs! I just choose to coexist simultaneously within the world where healthcare is extremely expensive and intrinsically tied to your work which I believe gives us the best healthcare professionals in the world, as well as the world in which I distrust those same medical professionals I put in that position because of their for-profit mindset!

There is no alternative! We need to keep them for-profit so we can distrust them for being for-profit! If they weren't, what would I need all these shaman for?! I wake up every morning and give myself finger-guns in the mirror an a quick wink before I sip my morning coffee and sit down for work!

[F0rmsh1fter]

This guys posting about the healthcare system completely unaware that Henry Ford literally rewrote the medical school syllabus after bribing some schools 2mil in donations

[unsunghero]

Fortunately friend life is all about trade offs! I just choose to coexist simultaneously within the world where healthcare is extremely expensive and intrinsically tied to your work which I believe gives us the best healthcare professionals in the world, as well as the world in which I distrust those same medical professionals I put in that position because of their for-profit mindset!

There is no alternative! We need to keep them for-profit so we can distrust them for being for-profit! If they weren't, what would I need all these shaman for?! I wake up every morning and give myself finger-guns in the mirror an a quick wink before I sip my morning coffee and sit down for work!

Oh I don’t trust doctors all that much either. Occasionally wrong, sometimes in a life threatening way, and almost always a condescending cunt (in my experience with them). With you on that one. But I still will take their advice over webmd. And my last surgery I had a month ago to put my elbow ulnar nerve back in place I simply couldn’t do on myself with 1 arm, even if I had a video guide :)

And the costs of healthcare seem pretty crazy in the US, so you don’t want to be without insurance. If you weren’t working and had no income, you’d definitely want to sign up for your state’s Medicaid. And if you have income but work isn’t offering an insurance, you definitely want to go to the insurance marketplace and pick one. You never want to get saddled with an out of pocket cost. Luckily there are usually options like what I mentioned to prevent this

In regards to alternatives, there’s completely socialized medicine. And Medicaid is fuckin amazing, I’d love to have that be for everyone. I just don’t see it as possible, expense-wise

[robayon]

I am going to go write "I must be mindful of Poe's Law" on a chalkboard a few dozen times

[unsunghero]

The thing about healthcare costs is that by having health insurance, it doesn’t matter as much how ridiculous Hospitals want to change

My surgery I had in November was pretty reasonable, $1200 for slashing my elbow open and putting my ulnar nerve back into the bone groove it was supposed to be in (it got displaced by me aggressively masterbating to the Human Centipede movie on repeat, at least that’s the story I gave friends sometimes). And the doctor repaired my carpal tunnel in my wrist by slashing open my hand in going in with a scope or something. That was $1100

So both being done on the same day + hospital fees was $3000ish. The anesthesia was like $2300ish. I had already paid 2k-3k towards my deductible earlier that year, so paying the rest of my deductible was only like $1k

But if the doctor wanted to charge $50,000 for each surgery I don’t give a shit. My deductible is still 4000. That’s why I am stressing the importance of having insurance and being in your network with your procedure

[F0rmsh1fter]

The thing about healthcare costs is that by having health insurance, it doesn’t matter as much how ridiculous Hospitals want to change

My surgery I had in November was pretty reasonable, $1200 for slashing my elbow open and putting my ulnar nerve back into the bone groove it was supposed to be in (it got displaced by me aggressively masterbating to the Human Centipede movie on repeat, at least that’s the story I gave friends sometimes). And the doctor repaired my carpal tunnel in my wrist by slashing open my hand in going in with a scope or something. That was $1100

So both being done on the same day + hospital fees was $3000ish. The anesthesia was like $2300ish. I had already paid 2k-3k towards my deductible earlier that year, so paying the rest of my deductible was only like $1k

But if the doctor wanted to charge $50,000 for each surgery I don’t give a shit. My deductible is still 4000. That’s why I am stressing the importance of having insurance and being in your network with your procedure

Insurance is a scam unless you’re perpetually sick or clumsy

[unsunghero]

Insurance is a scam unless you’re perpetually sick or clumsy

Lol hey I respect the guts to go without

[Reiwa]

Lol hey I respect the guts to go without

Not a viable option if you own anything lol

[F0rmsh1fter]

Not a viable option if you own anything lol

You must be one of those unhealthy goyim that goes to the doctor regularly because during the domestication process you were never taught how to maintain your health or use nature to your benefit

[Kich867]

The thing about healthcare costs is that by having health insurance, it doesn’t matter as much how ridiculous Hospitals want to change

My surgery I had in November was pretty reasonable, $1200 for slashing my elbow open and putting my ulnar nerve back into the bone groove it was supposed to be in (it got displaced by me aggressively masterbating to the Human Centipede movie on repeat, at least that’s the story I gave friends sometimes). And the doctor repaired my carpal tunnel in my wrist by slashing open my hand in going in with a scope or something. That was $1100

So both being done on the same day + hospital fees was $3000ish. The anesthesia was like $2300ish. I had already paid 2k-3k towards my deductible earlier that year, so paying the rest of my deductible was only like $1k

But if the doctor wanted to charge $50,000 for each surgery I don’t give a shit. My deductible is still 4000. That’s why I am stressing the importance of having insurance and being in your network with your procedure

Hey friend! My somewhat recent surgery cost a little over $250,000, luckily I had decent insurance and only had to pay $7,500. Unfortunately for my company though, the price spike because we used the insurance--you know, the reason you even have it--made that good insurance no longer a viable option! What a bummer! I still have OK insurance, it kinda sucks, but it sorta works still!

Luckily for us, lots of people live at a poverty line that don't have the same luxuries we do! They're forced into a situation in which they need to stay below a certain salary or they lose their insurance! Here's the best part though! If they ever try to get a better job, if they slightly go over that salary limit, they lose that health insurance they rely on! Fun right!? Haha! That way they get to stay perpetually locked into poverty because any gradual upward momentum would cripple them!

Remember, just one wink and finger guns every morning, right in the mirror at those pearly whites!

[unsunghero]

Hey friend! My somewhat recent surgery cost a little over $250,000, luckily I had decent insurance and only had to pay $7,500. Unfortunately for my company though, the price spike because we used the insurance--you know, the reason you even have it--made that good insurance no longer a viable option! What a bummer! I still have OK insurance, it kinda sucks, but it sorta works still!

Luckily for us, lots of people live at a poverty line that don't have the same luxuries we do! They're forced into a situation in which they need to stay below a certain salary or they lose their insurance! Here's the best part though! If they ever try to get a better job, if they slightly go over that salary limit, they lose that health insurance they rely on! Fun right!? Haha! That way they get to stay perpetually locked into poverty because any gradual upward momentum would cripple them!

Remember, just one wink and finger guns every morning, right in the mirror at those pearly whites!

Well mine was an actual example (amounts were wrong I was trying to go from memory), I’ll attach the receipt, and fairly sure yours is made up. If we’re going to just make stuff up, why not say that during the surgery the doctor put in a horse’s heart instead of a person’s for the heart transplant. That would sound hella-bad, right?

Not that there aren’t procedures that could actually run $250k, but it sounds like exaggeration just for the sake of hyperbole. So like I said, if you gonna just make stuff up, go for the gold and say the patient died too due to malpractice

And yea, like I said I’d love for everyone not just the poor to get free health insurance. After all, health insurance is a human right. Oh wait it’s actually not. Regardless, I’d still like for them to get it, but the cost would be in the trillions, and I just don’t see how our government could make that work. However, I greatly respect people like you who donate every extra penny you make to those who don’t have the means to care for themselves

[Kich867]

Well mine was an actual example (amounts were wrong I was trying to go from memory), I’ll attach the receipt, and fairly sure yours is made up. If we’re going to just make stuff up, why not say that during the surgery the doctor put in a horse’s heart instead of a person’s for the heart transplant. That would sound hella-bad, right?

Not that there aren’t procedures that could actually run $250k, but it sounds like exaggeration just for the sake of hyperbole. So like I said, if you gonna just make stuff up, go for the gold and say the patient died too due to malpractice

And yea, like I said I’d love for everyone not just the poor to get free health insurance. After all, health insurance is a human right. Oh wait it’s actually not. Regardless, I’d still like for them to get it, but the cost would be in the trillions, and I just don’t see how our government could make that work. However, I greatly respect people like you who donate every extra penny you make to those who don’t have the means to care for themselves

Hey friend! Not made up! I actually had heart surgery! It was a genetic condition! One day my heart started pumping about 40% of my blood backwards due to a faulty valve, due to the lower blood flow through my body my heart started to beat exceptionally hard in an attempt to get it going!

I appreciate your sympathy though, that $3k procedure sounded serious and life threatening too! I bet the tubes that went around your lungs to drain the fluid around your heart made it excruciatingly painful like it did for me!

Luckily for me it was only a 7 hour surgery to shave down the valve, re-tie the tissue so that it opened and closed properly, and apply the brace to reinforce the valve! The most fun part was when I coughed too hard and opened the hole in my chest where one of the tubes was inserted while I was on powerful blood thinners and was bleeding a whole lot!

Haha! Fortunately for you, if you ever had anything serious done in your life, you'd know that you don't get a single bill! You get close to 100 distinct bills for small things you have to pay for incrementally! Did I mention that even after my 7500 deductible I still ended up paying for my medication even though that should've been free after that and despite reaching out to them dozens of times they just ghosted me until I got new insurance anyways? Fun!

It sounds like you're solidly middle class and don't really have to worry about anything! Keep on pushing government programs, thanks!

[unsunghero]

Hey friend! Not made up! I actually had heart surgery! It was a genetic condition! One day my heart started pumping about 40% of my blood backwards due to a faulty valve, due to the lower blood flow through my body my heart started to beat exceptionally hard in an attempt to get it going!

I appreciate your sympathy though, that $3k procedure sounded serious and life threatening too! I bet the tubes that went around your lungs to drain the fluid around your heart made it excruciatingly painful like it did for me!

Luckily for me it was only a 7 hour surgery to shave down the valve, re-tie the tissue so that it opened and closed properly, and apply the brace to reinforce the valve! The most fun part was when I coughed too hard and opened the hole in my chest where one of the tubes was inserted while I was on powerful blood thinners and was bleeding a whole lot!

Haha! Fortunately for you, if you ever had anything serious done in your life, you'd know that you don't get a single bill! You get close to 100 distinct bills for small things you have to pay for incrementally! Did I mention that even after my 7500 deductible I still ended up paying for my medication even though that should've been free after that and despite reaching out to them dozens of times they just ghosted me until I got new insurance anyways? Fun!

It sounds like you're solidly middle class and don't really have to worry about anything! Keep on pushing government programs, thanks!

Wow, that does sound bad, even worse they kept you conscious through heart surgery so you had to feel everything. Yikes

Yeah man, heart surgery could indeed be a $250k bill. Sucks your plan had such a high deductible. So insurance covered hundreds of thousands of dollars though? Nice, hell yea

And it is also nice that you have some choices on insurance plans, I guess you learned to look for a good one? I’ve also had co-workers who have left jobs for less pay but better benefits. That’s our responsibility as adults, because once again, health insurance is not a human right

I am lucky I haven’t had such a life threatening event. I am confident I would do my best to survive as you did. I don’t invite life’s challenges on myself, but I don’t back down from them either

And yes, I am middle class. What government program was I pushing again?

[Kich867]

Wow, that does sound bad, even worse they kept you conscious through heart surgery so you had to feel everything. Yikes

Yeah man, heart surgery could indeed be a $250k bill. Sucks your plan had such a high deductible. So insurance covered hundreds of thousands of dollars though? Nice, hell yea

And it is also nice that you have some choices on insurance plans, I guess you learned to look for a good one? I’ve also had co-workers who have left jobs for less pay but better benefits. That’s our responsibility as adults, because once again, health insurance is not a human right

I am lucky I haven’t had such a life threatening event. I am confident I would do my best to survive as you did. I don’t invite life’s challenges on myself, but I don’t back down from them either

And yes, I am middle class. What government program was I pushing again?

Haha right on friend! We did have decent health insurance plans before the surgery! But by actually utilizing the insurance we were then immediately priced out and they pursued us legally to get us to pay for the surgery instead of them--truly world class!

At no point in our careers did we normalize the idea that paying for insurance and then having to actually use that insurance would actually be a punishment! Ha ha!

If only there was another way friend, but there's not ha ha! This is exactly how things need to be! I choose to believe that no doctors or nurses anywhere else in the world are qualified to do anything at all! Fortunately for us friend, only America has the best doctors and nurses--obviously I don't trust them though, they're medical professionals after all only out to make a quick buck, but we still have the best! My heart surgeon was actually German! Ha ha!

[unsunghero]

Haha right on friend! We did have decent health insurance plans before the surgery! But by actually utilizing the insurance we were then immediately priced out and they pursued us legally to get us to pay for the surgery instead of them--truly world class!

At no point in our careers did we normalize the idea that paying for insurance and then having to actually use that insurance would actually be a punishment! Ha ha!


You know what you can do to save some money next time? Fly down to Mexico and have them operate on you? Hell of a lot cheaper and like you said, American doctors are shit

I mean, they knew how to cut open your chest cavity and fix your busted heart. Your procedure cost as much as a house, and your insurance fought you on it and dropped you afterwards? Shocker


If only there was another way friend

Mexico hospital

but there's not ha ha!

People who don’t have open heart surgery aren’t going to have their insurance fight them and try to drop them. FYI

I honestly feel sorry for you, it’s hard through all the sarcasm and exclamation points. But I truly do. You picked the wrong parents, so to speak (and this is a joke obviously). And you personally got the short end of the stick

Your experience is also, luckily, extremely rare. But once again, props for pulling through

Edit: I’ll offer up a positive health insurance anecdote to bring up the mood. My stepdad last month fell 5 feet onto his side, breaking his collarbone and 4 ribs, requiring surgery

He had already met his deductible for the year. This procedure was added to the tens of thousands of dollars his insurance has spent on treatment for his heart issues as well. With those and this most recent surgery, his deductible was already met so he paid nothing. His insurance (through his work) didn’t fight him, and didn’t try to drop him after

[Jibartik]

The next Covid variant will be more contagious than omicron, but the question is whether it will be more deadly, WHO says (https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/25/the-next-covid-variant-will-be-more-contagious-than-omicron-who-says.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.a ctivity.CopyToPasteboard)

[starkind]

@unshunghero health insurancce in america sux and the VA is the worst of the worst of the worst even if ur a triple times combat wounded veteran it's only barely adequate

don't point at your anecodotal ortho bill for 1k and be like 'yay' also don't u live in cali or OR or some gay stay with double down insurance antifraud laws? or something really lame?

anyway go move to missisipi, get something terminal or life threatening then tell me how the ride on out to hospice is so fun and cheap

suicides are at an all time high my pals

[nostalgiaquest]

So many Americans are one bad day from total financial and mental ruin due to the health insurance system, and most don't even realize it.

[F0rmsh1fter]

The next Covid variant will be more contagious than omicron, but the question is whether it will be more deadly, WHO says (https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/25/the-next-covid-variant-will-be-more-contagious-than-omicron-who-says.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.a ctivity.CopyToPasteboard)

P L A N N E D

100% political virus. People like kich keep covid in business with their gmo synapses

[Jimjam]

I’m praying for you guys right now.

Your lives have value, and your health is worth investment so you can continue to add value

it’s darkest before the dawn - the storm can’t last forever.

[Kich867]

P L A N N E D

100% political virus. People like kich keep covid in business with their gmo synapses

Thanks friend, my synapses have been firing on all cylinders! I wake up every morning by tying my bootstraps up around my head so each step requires being pulled up by them! My lower back is like a steel trap!

I feel like maybe we got off track though friend, this thread is about vaccine injury! A serious epidemic in America felt by literally dozens of people! Fortunately for us, the HRSA is here to help, and by providing basically any evidence whatsoever that you've been injured by a vaccine, the median payout is over $770,000!

I've put more thought into it friend! The only reason people aren't petitioning the HRSA for their payouts is because they prefer the government keeps that money! That's altruistic! I never realized how much support government programs have! Good on you!

Have a stellar day and keep on truckin'!

[BlackBellamy]

My heart surgeon was actually German! Ha ha!

Yeah my orthopedic surgeon was German too and I was so fucking relieved I wasn't getting some diversity placement. He was blonde and handsome too, his accent was just on the American side but he definitely sounded like he could make my ligaments run on time.

After I collated the 30-40 different bills I received, the total came to around 140k. This was for a smashed right arm with total elbow replacement. I have good corporate insurance so they paid 110k and I walked away from the rest.

Sure, they sent me collection letters and 'ruined' my credit rating that I don't need, but every bill got charged off and will disappear off my report eventually. Or not. Wtf do I care? I already have a mortgage don't need another, and I still have my credit cards that I had before.

[unsunghero]

I don’t want to make it seem like I am championing our healthcare system or saying it’s perfect because I’m not

I’ll re-say my original points:

1. Healthcare costs are very expensive in the USA, which is why I said my surgery seemed very reasonable, which was surprising to me

2. Because the costs are so high, I highly recommend finding some form of health insurance plan for yourself, whether that’s Medicaid, Medicare, or health insurance through your work or the insurance marketplace, and making sure ahead of time that your procedure is within your network. If it is within your network, and it’s not cosmetic like laser eye surgery or a boob job, there is a really good chance it will be covered by your health insurance minus your deductible. Otherwise, if you didn’t go through your insurance, you pay the entire thing, good luck with that

3. Despite one person’s story of his heart almost exploding and having a hard time with his insurance over it, for the vast majority of people, their health insurance is not going to take them to court, then drop them from their plans after a procedure, even an expensive surgery

4. Socialized medicine for all not just the poor and old is simply too expensive to do in the USA, and I have not found a proposal of managing that cost that has convinced me otherwise

[unsunghero]

Oh one last point, in regards to costs, and the importance of having insurance:

From looking at or hearing about other procedures, it appears that there is a back and forth negotiation that occurs between both the socialized (Medicare, Medicaid) and private insurances and the biller. There will be an original statement like “you owe x”. Then some unseen haggling/negotiation occurs and often another statement will come saying “you now owe y”. The health insurance still hasn’t paid anything yet, but in cases I’ve seen due to that negotiation, the next statement can be half or less as much as the original

Two things I am not sure in about in regards to this negotiation between payer and biller:

1. It very well might be a factor in healthcare costs. Not sure if the biller artificially inflates the cost expecting the paying insurance to lowball them. Sort of a chicken or the egg argument, was the lowballing driving the costs up or was it a result of the high costs?

2. I do not know if you are even able to do this price negotiation as an out of pocket payer. If not, that is a HUUUUGE reason to try to have health insurance

[Reiwa]

Oh one last point, in regards to costs, and the importance of having insurance:

From looking at or hearing about other procedures, it appears that there is a back and forth negotiation that occurs between both the socialized (Medicare, Medicaid) and private insurances and the biller. There will be an original statement like “you owe x”. Then some unseen haggling/negotiation occurs and often another statement will come saying “you now owe y”. The health insurance still hasn’t paid anything yet, but in cases I’ve seen due to that negotiation, the next statement can be half or less as much as the original

Two things I am not sure in about in regards to this negotiation between payer and biller:

1. It very well might be a factor in healthcare costs. Not sure if the biller artificially inflates the cost expecting the paying insurance to lowball them. Sort of a chicken or the egg argument, was the lowballing driving the costs up or was it a result of the high costs?

2. I do not know if you are even able to do this price negotiation as an out of pocket payer. If not, that is a HUUUUGE reason to try to have health insurance

Dentists will do cash discounts if you pay in full within X days. Varies.

[Toxigen]

daily reminder if you took your jabs you're a dumb dumb and deserve whats coming

[F0rmsh1fter]

daily reminder if you took your jabs you're a dumb dumb and deserve whats coming

Laughs in 20something year old soccer players with peak cardio health dropping dead from heart attacks

[Elizondo]

daily reminder if you took your jabs you're a dumb dumb and deserve whats coming

I'm convinced if Fauci and Big Bird told lefties to eat bugs to protect them from Covid they'd do it

Oh wait, they already eat bugs

[Gatordash]

Dentists will do cash discounts if you pay in full within X days. Varies.

All doctors will give you "time of service" discounts.

Yes you can negotiate large medical bills down, as long as you can do as well as what they'd sell your bill to a debt collector for. (pennies on the dollar)

You guys in on Stealth Covid yet? Sounds way cooler than omicron.

[Reiwa]

All doctors will give you "time of service" discounts.

Yes you can negotiate large medical bills down, as long as you can do as well as what they'd sell your bill to a debt collector for. (pennies on the dollar)

Is this action well-received by providers?

[Jibartik]

The next wave the news says is more catching than omni pretty sure the news knows nothing but how could it be more catching than omni lol that's like saying "air will be covid" next time

[F0rmsh1fter]

The next wave the news says is more catching than omni pretty sure the news knows nothing but how could it be more catching than omni lol that's like saying "air will be covid" next time

How do people see that and not question how the news would even know the characteristics of a hypothetical strain? How do people not see that this is all bullshit? I swear to allah we need another extinction event

[Gatordash]

Is this action well-received by providers?

Yes because you are getting paid straight away and don't have deal with stuff like electronic remittance advice. The industry standard is about a third off the actual price. That 'discount' obviously varies widely depending on what is being billed and geographic location. Typically, smaller bills and procedures mean smaller discounts, larger bills and procedures are larger discounts.

[Jibartik]

My understanding is this is our medical system:

The insurance companies negotiate with the hospitals to lower the cost of things, the more customers the insurance companies have, the lower they can get the prices.

But to make it so the hospitals dont have to pay a "negotiated price" and instead pay the price they would ask for something without negotiation... they tack on huge $ amounts to their costs.

Then the insurance companies negotiate to lower the price and end up only getting rid of what the hospital tacked on and they end up paying what we would be paying if we didnt have insurance negotiating, or competition. Just what the hospital wanted from the get go.

(So to be loud and clear, this negotiation is a lie and literally has a net positive effect on all costs - 110% win for the hospitals - free money for insurance companies - higher prices for the patients)

This country needs an enema. Where's Roby when you need him! GET TO WORK!

[Reiwa]

Yes because you are getting paid straight away and don't have deal with stuff like electronic remittance advice. The industry standard is about a third off the actual price. That 'discount' obviously varies widely depending on what is being billed and geographic location. Typically, smaller bills and procedures mean smaller discounts, larger bills and procedures are larger discounts.

Well alright then. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07G23zMGa4g)

[robayon]

I am "covered" on my wifes plan, which she pays for her out of her check and we settle at the end of each month, but here's the cool part

Her company got it filed so that she pays but we havent received info yet and their HR person doesn't respond to emails or calls, so we are effectively uninsured until we get that info lmao love having employers involved in healthcare

I suspect some certain folks in this thread have, uh, limited experience with economic hardship

[Jibartik]

I tried a cheaper plan and every time I went to the doctor for anything I had to pay so much I was like wtf! So i went back to my more expensive plan where you dont have to pay as much but I realized that I'm a sucker and so is everyone else because there is no difference between those plans as far as my wallet is concerned.

Not to mention the cheaper plan encourages people to NOT go tot he doctor for checkups so they have a blowout instead of a prescription.

Not that anyone or thousands of TV documentaries haven't said all of this before thousands of times and we keep sucking the reptoid dick. so this monologue is over.

[robayon]

I once got a $2000 or so bill for breast cancer scans

I do not have breasts

It took a lot of stupid shit to get that the hell off my credit report

Love having my credit score in the hands of those three companies despite never having consented to giving them any information at all

[Jibartik]

if my parents are a metric for every 1 of us 2 people are creating about 2 million dollars worth of transactions every 10 years between the hospitals and medicare system.

[Kich867]

Does anyone remember, when you had like a $40 copay, and went to the doctor, you'd just fuckin swipe your card and that was it? Where the fuck did that go? Why do those bills have to go to my health insurance company, we already made an agreement, that's the whole point of a copay.

Does anyone know why that is no longer a thing? I remember like 10 years ago going to an ENT, paying my copay, seeing the ENT, leaving, and that was as complicated as my interaction with doctors had to be.

[robayon]

Obamacare was a half-assed measure and I assume the modern bureaucratic nightmare of medical procedure billing is a long-game form of revenge on the populace by executives from the health insurance industry who are all those frat guys with pink polo shirts and they like golf

[robayon]

Does anyone remember, when you had like a $40 copay, and went to the doctor, you'd just fuckin swipe your card and that was it? Where the fuck did that go? Why do those bills have to go to my health insurance company, we already made an agreement, that's the whole point of a copay.

Does anyone know why that is no longer a thing? I remember like 10 years ago going to an ENT, paying my copay, seeing the ENT, leaving, and that was as complicated as my interaction with doctors had to be.This kind of stuff makes Americans treat their own problems and avoid the doctor. I have gotten so many bills months later, I typically just ignore the smaller ones and gamble on getting summoned for small claims or whatever someday

I have taken fish antibiotics and I have also removed a kidney stone from my own urethra with a paper clip, if we are still doing anecdotes

[Gatordash]

Does anyone remember, when you had like a $40 copay, and went to the doctor, you'd just fuckin swipe your card and that was it? Where the fuck did that go? Why do those bills have to go to my health insurance company, we already made an agreement, that's the whole point of a copay.

Does anyone know why that is no longer a thing? I remember like 10 years ago going to an ENT, paying my copay, seeing the ENT, leaving, and that was as complicated as my interaction with doctors had to be.

Bruh, now we got individual deductibles vs family deductibles and induvial vs family out of pocket limits, and then its not just co-pays anymore, some people have co-insurance (and some have both!), but then maybe your company has you set up on an HRA plan, or maybe they gave you a credit card specifically for healthcare through your HSA account. Getting x-rays on your visit? Imaging is a negotiated at totally different rates so all of the above I just listed will be different numbers. Prescriptions? All of the above numbers are different for that because its negotiated at different rates with different pharmacies. And if you are a healthcare provider you try to check these rates quickly online, but a lot of times what your co-pay is on your card is not the same as what it says when your insurance is run on the computer. People love that.

And that is why we get remittance advice and you get an explanation of benefits and why doctors will just take immediate payment at a discount because you never really know exactly who is getting paid what and who is responsible for what until 4 months after your visit when the insurance company actually runs your stuff.

[unsunghero]

I have taken fish antibiotics and I have also removed a kidney stone from my own urethra with a paper clip, if we are still doing anecdotes

That’s some MacGyver shit, damn!

Yeah I dunno what happened to just doing a simple co-pay. I remember my Ma and my stepdad’s relative both got stung in the ankle by stingrays in Mexico (was a school of them) and we went to a Mexico hospital. The nurse came out with her fly down and sweating, and tried to use the same needle on my ma that she had used on my stepdad’s relative until my ma asked if she could get a new needle

But the shot they gave her cleared it right up like magic, and then on the way out there was no paperwork and they just said that’ll be $20. Ma gave them a $20 bill at the counter and we walked out and were like “why can’t American hospitals be this easy?”

One holdover from Obama is the removal of the pre-existing condition thing barring someone from coverage. I called my insurance before my surgery to answer questions about if it was due to a car accident or workplace injury (them wanting to get out of paying it obviously), and I said to the phone specialist “no this was a genetic condition where my nerve slipped out of the bone groove it should be in”….and as I was saying it my co-worker was like doing a “shut up” motion to me

Afterwards I asked him why he was saying shut up, and he said they could use the pre-existing thing to not cover you, since it pre-existed their coverage. I was like oh shit I heard about that, and we looked it up and this was undone during the obama admin and remains as something they are not allowed to do. So thanks Obama, and I mean that un-ironically

I also told my co-worker that the insurance got the report from my elbow doctor about the condition, so even if I lied and said it wasn’t pre-existing I dunno if that would have saved me

[starkind]

I’m praying for you guys right now.

Your lives have value, and your health is worth investment so you can continue to add value

it’s darkest before the dawn - the storm can’t last forever.

Taking my health, health care, and life into my own hands as I've done before.

I ate a small fresh avocado salad.

I still feel like shit and downed a few nsaids. Today fucking sux.

You're right tho. Invest in your bodies. They are what you will use to carry your shields until your shields carry you.

[Toxigen]

how many of you jabbies feel a little anxious now that the vaccine is clearly causing more harm than good?

[F0rmsh1fter]

how many of you jabbies feel a little anxious now that the vaccine is clearly causing more harm than good?

They refuse to see it. Even once they do, they’ll never admit it. Kind of how they won’t admit biden is arguably to worst president we’ve had in our lifetime

[Toxigen]

They refuse to see it. Even once they do, they’ll never admit it. Kind of how they won’t admit biden is arguably to worst president we’ve had in our lifetime

the pull of the cult is strong, especially when augmented by heavy propaganda ala media

[Reiwa]

They refuse to see it. Even once they do, they’ll never admit it. Kind of how they won’t admit biden is arguably to worst president we’ve had in our lifetime

I think most of us recognize that a cadre of maladjusted NEETs are actively lying to us online about how "bad" things really are.

[F0rmsh1fter]

I think most of us recognize that a cadre of maladjusted NEETs are actively lying to us online about how "bad" things really are.

It’s not just neets, it the majority of people repeating what the news tells them

[robayon]

how many of you jabbies feel a little anxious now that the vaccine is clearly causing more harm than good?Considering the amount of recreational drugs and research chemicals I put into my body in the decades before, I feel precisely the same. I have had two shots and a likely unnecessary booster.

Still havent had covid, or at least anything strong enough to merit anything but basic caution.

[unsunghero]

how many of you jabbies feel a little anxious now that the vaccine is clearly causing more harm than good?

Personally I only care about how the vaccine affects athletes since they have a lifestyle most similar to mine. Fat and sedentary people die all the time, it’s what they do best

But athletes inexplicably dying did raise some concerns for me

There’s some politifact article “debunking” this theory that the vaccine is causing all these recorded athlete deaths:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/nov/19/blog-posting/dozens-prominent-athletes-did-not-die-heart-attack/

Their argument is: 1. A number of these athletes only collapsed for a while a few weeks after the vaxx but they pulled through and didn’t die (LOLOL WHAT A FUCKING GREAT ARGUMENT…) and 2. Some aren’t prominent athletes such as high school kids (again, a shit argument), and 3. Some did not have the vaccine and had a history of heart problems (the only good argument made)

I trust politifact about as far as I can throw them. But yes, when athletes die after receiving the vaxx (if it’s true), that does concern me. So far so good though, in terms of my heart

[unsunghero]

research chemicals I put into my body

What kinda research chemicals ya dabbled in?

[Jibartik]

Roby is a medical scienctist at a oxy drug manufacturer he be in the lab like:

a little for test a. a little for me

a little for test b. a little for me

a ltitle for test c. a little for me

[unsunghero]

Roby is a medical scienctist at a oxy drug manufacturer he be in the lab like:

a little for test a. a little for me

a little for test b. a little for me

a ltitle for test c. a little for me

Lol maybe

I had the wrong idea then. There are some fitness supplements that are not FDA approved and sold quasi-legally as “research chemicals”. It’s legal to buy them, just not to put them in your body. But everyone knows that’s what the buyers are doing

The only one I ever tried was MK677 growth hormone. Normally growth hormone is a peptide and is an intra-muscular shot like the covid vaccine. MK677 was like a weaker oral version (tastes like complete shit) of that. I was initially interested in it for recovery, it was supposed to greatly increase your body’s ability to recover from workouts and I was going hard with those. But my report on it is I do not recommend. I had no idea how hard it stimulates grellin which is the hunger hormone. It will basically make you like 3 times as hungry as you normally are, all day. So you have 2 options, get fat by eating a lot more than you were, or suffer horrible pangs of hunger all day. It’s a shame because it does really improve your sleep, your body’s recovery, and does a tiny boost to muscle size

I still have like 3/4 the bottle somewhere if anyone wanted it

[robayon]

What kinda research chemicals ya dabbled in?Mostly before I was 18, it was a handful of drugs while they were in the "test on children" phase I guess, and I think there was money involved. I do not clearly recall all of them, but most of them were benign like one was claritin I think before it went OTC. Another made me pass out once in some class when I was like in the 10th grade. Nothing that special.

[F0rmsh1fter]

Considering the amount of recreational drugs and research chemicals I put into my body in the decades before, I feel precisely the same. I have had two shots and a likely unnecessary booster.

Still havent had covid, or at least anything strong enough to merit anything but basic caution.

Covid isn’t strong enough to merit anything except a couple days of aspirin and a nap or two

[F0rmsh1fter]

Robayon being used as an mk ultra Guinea pig by his parents explains so much

[Kich867]

Yawn

[Jibartik]

Robayon being used as an mk ultra Guinea pig by his parents explains so much

that would be the sickest mace quest was just another failed brainwashed mk ultra from banon when he was just messing around with warcraft boards lol

[F0rmsh1fter]

that would be the sickest mace quest was just another failed brainwashed mk ultra from banon when he was just messing around with warcraft boards lol

Don’t forget about dude who went to a park with a rifle and committed suicide by cop over pixels lol

[starkind]

I just spent 6hrs in the ER feel like an idiot. Tho

Overall I'm doing better this year.

My diagnosis tonight was viral syndrome.

[Jibartik]

damn hope youre ok starkind

fs what i want to know more.

[starkind]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/patient-safety-outcomes/covid-19-may-trigger-post-viral-syndromes.html&ved=2ahUKEwjHkozUuNP1AhWXTDABHQFGAgY4FBAWegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw3f5ijHxevfSuySNlGLlK6T

That about sums it up.

I feel way better than last year tbh. I'm doing a lot really. Physical activity way up.

Had a bad scare today when I turned totally pale. Heart was doing weird things and I like passed out in shock. I said fuck it I'll wait this out and it got worse. So got a ride and had vitals/blood tests done.

Just elevated white blood cells. Every else is cool. My cardiac muscle isn't like dying and breaking down. All shit good to know cuz I had horrible cramps/spasms the other day.

Not letting this bs set me back from gainz.

Very fucking frustrating tho.

Could be nerve/vasovagil response.

In normal trauma ppls body does like this thing. I can't get vitals nor can my mom or the stupid phone/sensor pressure cuff thing when it happens.

If I was in battle and got slashed or stabbed really good...it would be a great thing. Would likely keep me in the fight or help me go into a coma for recovery.

Butt naw. It just happens when I stand up to make dinner lol.

[Topgunben]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/patient-safety-outcomes/covid-19-may-trigger-post-viral-syndromes.html&ved=2ahUKEwjHkozUuNP1AhWXTDABHQFGAgY4FBAWegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw3f5ijHxevfSuySNlGLlK6T

That about sums it up.

I feel way better than last year tbh. I'm doing a lot really. Physical activity way up.

Had a bad scare today when I turned totally pale. Heart was doing weird things and I like passed out in shock. I said fuck it I'll wait this out and it got worse. So got a ride and had vitals/blood tests done.

Just elevated white blood cells. Every else is cool. My cardiac muscle isn't like dying and breaking down. All shit good to know cuz I had horrible cramps/spasms the other day.

Not letting this bs set me back from gainz.

Very fucking frustrating tho.

Could be nerve/vasovagil response.

In normal trauma ppls body does like this thing. I can't get vitals nor can my mom or the stupid phone/sensor pressure cuff thing when it happens.

If I was in battle and got slashed or stabbed really good...it would be a great thing. Would likely keep me in the fight or help me go into a coma for recovery.

Butt naw. It just happens when I stand up to make dinner lol.

Have you considered TRT? I’m being serious btw. There seems to be a growing consensus that testosterone is the cure all for many ailments facing males today. I think with more jobs out there requiring vast amount of work hours spent at a desk rather than physical activity, it reduces testosterone levels.

Like there’s millions of men on anti depressants and heart pills that probably would be better off with a little testosterone boost. If you look online, it’s overwhelming what men say about trt vs other drugs/meds. Obviously this isn’t the answer for everyone, but I think it’s a valid alternative to the gamut of other meds you might be placed on.

I’m glad to hear you are doing better though.

[unsunghero]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/patient-safety-outcomes/covid-19-may-trigger-post-viral-syndromes.html&ved=2ahUKEwjHkozUuNP1AhWXTDABHQFGAgY4FBAWegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw3f5ijHxevfSuySNlGLlK6T

That about sums it up.

I feel way better than last year tbh. I'm doing a lot really. Physical activity way up.

Had a bad scare today when I turned totally pale. Heart was doing weird things and I like passed out in shock. I said fuck it I'll wait this out and it got worse. So got a ride and had vitals/blood tests done.

Just elevated white blood cells. Every else is cool. My cardiac muscle isn't like dying and breaking down. All shit good to know cuz I had horrible cramps/spasms the other day.

Not letting this bs set me back from gainz.

Very fucking frustrating tho.

Could be nerve/vasovagil response.

In normal trauma ppls body does like this thing. I can't get vitals nor can my mom or the stupid phone/sensor pressure cuff thing when it happens.

If I was in battle and got slashed or stabbed really good...it would be a great thing. Would likely keep me in the fight or help me go into a coma for recovery.

Butt naw. It just happens when I stand up to make dinner lol.

Sucks! Glad u ok. Being active gonna save ya

I lol’d at the end

[unsunghero]

Have you considered TRT? I’m being serious btw. There seems to be a growing consensus that testosterone is the cure all for many ailments facing males today. I think with more jobs out there requiring vast amount of work hours spent at a desk rather than physical activity, it reduces testosterone levels.

Like there’s millions of men on anti depressants and heart pills that probably would be better off with a little testosterone boost. If you look online, it’s overwhelming what men say about trt vs other drugs/meds. Obviously this isn’t the answer for everyone, but I think it’s a valid alternative to the gamut of other meds you might be placed on.

I’m glad to hear you are doing better though.

Always good to get bloodwork at least once a year for a checkup, and see where your levels are at

TRT can be game-changing but it is also somewhat of a life sentence. Once your body gets used to it, it’s natural production completely stops. It can eventually re-start, but the longer you stay on sometimes the longer the re-start after stopping might take too

Both my RL friend who works as a paramedic and my dad have been on it at various times. My friend had to stop because it’s hard to get health insurance to cover and he eventually couldn’t afford it. My dad had to stop because his bloodwork came back with a cancer scare (if I recall it’s since corrected and he might have gone back on). Both of them mentioned that stopping was ROUGH. Their natural was essentially zero for months, with all the negatives of that

But if you have the means to stay on it for essentially ever, then yea can be game changing

[Jimjam]

Sorry to read about your scare Starkind. Glad you are taking it in your stride. You’re a very strong / inspiring personal!

Glad you’re in a better place overall than last year.

[starkind]

Thx

And sunlight is good for testosterone afaik. I noticed I lost a lot of weight and def felt those Hormone effects with a decent amount of early and late day sun exposure.

[Jibartik]

https://www.the-sun.com/health/4542123/300k-brits-living-stealth-disease-could-kill-five-years/

[unsunghero]

Thx

And sunlight is good for testosterone afaik. I noticed I lost a lot of weight and def felt those Hormone effects with a decent amount of early and late day sun exposure.

It is in our hardest times that our greatest character is formed

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_bnETxx5Qrk

[starkind]

It is in our hardest times that our greatest character is formed

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_bnETxx5Qrk
Ty.:) I link your motivational speeches around btw )

[Toxigen]

5SVO0lc_1_o

OOPS

[unsunghero]

Ty.:) I link your motivational speeches around btw )

Ty I like this one from them as well but not as much. It’s a song made by some indie rapper/group that they hire to make motivational songs for them. He’s made a couple, this is my fav

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jat-a3aG3tc

[unsunghero]

5SVO0lc_1_o

OOPS

Everyone who is part of the at risk population for covid (old, overweight, or with other health vulnerabilities) and doesn’t want to get vaxxed should be forced to read at least 10 entries of sorryantivaxxer.com deaths

I’m a conservative and the mockery on that site is hard to get through, but the site is very effective at the message it sends

[Jibartik]

is very effective at the message it sends

The first one says that chad is an idiot for not getting vaxed and being at risk but it also said he has had covid twice, so why does he need to get vaxed?

[robayon]

If I got the clap twice maybe I would consider condoms or just abstaining

[Jibartik]

I mean if I had covid twice and both times it was like a cold then I'd have a hard time convincing myself to get the vax, is that crazy?

I would consider condoms or just abstaining

mask, social distancing, not vax, so you agree with him?

[robayon]

Oh I am not a vaccine mandate person, if people want tonrisk their lives or their kids they can do it if they want. None of my business. I just think maybe it would be wise after two infections from the same thing

I did support Biden's attempt to mandate vaccines, but that's only because I thought it help crash the economy

[unsunghero]

The first one says that chad is an idiot for not getting vaxed and being at risk but it also said he has had covid twice, so why does he need to get vaxed?

That’s the only one I’ve heard like that. I’ve read about 20ish of people my dad’s age, as stubborn as he is, that mocked the vaccine online (which to my knowledge has been shown to reduce symptoms), got covid, and died horribly while their clueless family blamed the hospital trying to save their life

[Jibartik]

That’s the only one I’ve heard like that. I’ve read about 20ish of people my dad’s age, as stubborn as he is, that mocked the vaccine online (which to my knowledge has been shown to reduce symptoms), got covid, and died horribly while their clueless family blamed the hospital trying to save their life

the second one below that is about some wife that wont shutup but her husbinds treatment which he had none until he needed a ventilator at the hospital and he eventually got off the ventilator and is fine.

i called my doctor and asked what I should do when i thought I was at risk of having covid, she told me to just sit and wait, and if it gets bad then go to the hospital.

Im discovering a lot of the anti vax proffesionals are arguing that instead of doing nothing when you think you got covid that you can actually do a lot.

And I believe that... never in my life has the doctor told me to just sit there and wait till it gets worse when there is an infection of anytype.

But here we are.

just saying that we're surrounded by hyperbole and at this point I just dont trust anyone.

Getting the vax is probubly the smartest thing you can do, but do I know that its the only option, and the smartest thing I can do? Hell no, I just have to take conditionings word for it. Ive been conditioned my whole life for this moment.

[unsunghero]

If you’re a non-old healthy adult who wants to pass on the vaxx I don’t give a F, in fact most of the young healthy adults here who have passed have also gotten and gotten over covid anyway

Even the site can’t present many young healthy adults dying to it, and you know they are trying

But as always don’t listen to me, listen to ur dr

[Jibartik]

I havent gotten teh 3rd vax and I think that is a mistake and I will die as a result, but part of me thinks if i can survive to the next major mutation next winter, and it turns out to be less than or the same as omni, then I think Ill say I could have gotten through this without a vax.

If i die along the way then Im a statistic.

and if its worse next year then Im moving to a cave in colorado to wait out the second coming.

[Toxigen]

If I have covid and have antibodies, I'm immunized right?

So don't need vax.

[Elizondo]

Gonna lol when sheep on their 20th booster

[TheConsortium]

yup, laugh until you die ;)

[Homesteaded]

yup, laugh until you die ;)

Despite your intentions, this is great life advice.

Not like you think though, moron.

[Gravydoo II]

Close to a million dead. Cant happen to you though. Just like a mass shooting. Cant happen to you. Gun crime wont visit your area. Covid cant get you if you're under the covers.

[Chortles Snortles]

trust me I’m a doctor thread
(lol)

[starkind]

Close to a million dead. Cant happen to you though. Just like a mass shooting. Cant happen to you. Gun crime wont visit your area. Covid cant get you if you're under the covers.

sadly its the end times

these people don't want to clean up their act

you can't yell them into cleaning up their act

it's futile

just stop

no one will do anything or think about their lifes until 2/3 get wiped out in a month and even then ppl will just pick up the pieces move on and quickly forget --- go back to their petty squabbles and trash making ways

[Elizondo]

Close to a million dead. Cant happen to you though. Just like a mass shooting. Cant happen to you. Gun crime wont visit your area. Covid cant get you if you're under the covers.

Nah that number is totally bogus

Number actually only about 65K that actually just died because of Covid. Typical Flu Season

All the rest of those peepz had co morbidities and happen to have Covid at the same time they died

[Chortles Snortles]

dude just trust me
(lol)

[Reiwa]

Nah that number is totally bogus

Number actually only about 65K that actually just died because of Covid. Typical Flu Season

All the rest of those peepz had co morbidities and happen to have Covid at the same time they died

Morbidity is not mortality, Tromp dingus.

[Elizondo]

Morbidity is not mortality, Tromp dingus.

Heart Disease and Diabetes alone were almost 60% of co morbidities dude and lockdowns only prevented like .2% of deaths

Dem Covid political narrative and strategy a failure

[Patriam1066]

Heart Disease and Diabetes alone were almost 60% of co morbidities dude and lockdowns only prevented like .2% of deaths

Dem Covid political narrative and strategy a failure

Get a job Redneck

[Botten]

Get a job Redneck

Honest to God, I think Elizondo may be a farm hand or perhaps related to Homestead.

.

[Elizondo]

Get a job Redneck

It's all good man

Maybe the 10th booster will make you feel safe

[Ennewi]

Nah that number is totally bogus

Number actually only about 65K that actually just died because of Covid. Typical Flu Season

All the rest of those peepz had co morbidities and happen to have Covid at the same time they died

Source?

[starkind]

Wash ur hands. Wear a mask ��.. brush ur teeth. Stay home if you're "sick".

If u can't u live in a 3rd world shit hole and got zero discipline.

Gg.

[Elizondo]

Source?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/covid19-comorbidity-expanded-12092020-508.pdf

For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.9 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups. Values in the table represent number of deaths that mention the condition listed and 94% of deaths mention more than one
condition.

[starkind]

God: free will is great
God: don't be an irresponsible idiot

[Botten]

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/covid19-comorbidity-expanded-12092020-508.pdf

For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.9 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups. Values in the table represent number of deaths that mention the condition listed and 94% of deaths mention more than one
condition.


Really Elizondo…

No mention of the bodies own induced cytokine storm from CoVid19? The fact that excessive number of cytokines are released, which create high levels of inflammation in the area of the body being flooded. This inflammation of the patient’s own fluids, causes organ shutdown, affecting the lungs, heart and kidneys. Most drown in their own body fluids in their lungs damaged by their own immune system. If you survive that your own immune system can damage your heart as the virus infects your heart cells. The patients poor kidneys not only have to deal with excessive body fluid to excrete but the drugs they pump into you to deal with the inflammation.

So yeah there are more than one CONDITIONS leading to the death from ultimately CoVid19. I hate when antivaxxer purposely or idiotically Misconstrue the truth in the research.

[Ennewi]

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/covid19-comorbidity-expanded-12092020-508.pdf

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-94-percent-covid-among-caus/fact-check-94-of-individuals-with-additional-causes-of-death-still-had-covid-19-idUSKBN25U2IO

The condition "that began the chain of events that ultimately led to the person's death" is considered the person's "underlying cause of death." In these cases, this would be COVID-19.

Key to understanding the issues in these posts is that, "If they had not gotten the infection," Dr. Artandi said, "they would still be alive."

[Toxigen]

Close to a million dead. Cant happen to you though. Just like a mass shooting. Cant happen to you. Gun crime wont visit your area. Covid cant get you if you're under the covers.

what a blubbering vagina

[starkind]

Tbf we should do something about this plastoscene and litany of developmental, endocrin, and inflammatory disease too.

Still you are an irresponsible person if you don't prepare for an take stuff like covid srsly. Whether it came from a bat or Jeff Bezos brand new yacht.

[Trexller]

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-94-percent-covid-among-caus/fact-check-94-of-individuals-with-additional-causes-of-death-still-had-covid-19-idUSKBN25U2IO

The condition "that began the chain of events that ultimately led to the person's death" is considered the person's "underlying cause of death." In these cases, this would be COVID-19.

Key to understanding the issues in these posts is that, "If they had not gotten the infection," Dr. Artandi said, "they would still be alive."

what that pussy means to say is:

"If the Chinese Communist Party, in collusion with Dr. Fauxi, had not committed biological warfare upon the world, they would still be alive"

[Jibartik]

God: free will is great
God: don't be an irresponsible idiot

God shakes his head: "What did you want from me? I sent you two boats and a helicopter."

[Elizondo]

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-94-percent-covid-among-caus/fact-check-94-of-individuals-with-additional-causes-of-death-still-had-covid-19-idUSKBN25U2IO

The condition "that began the chain of events that ultimately led to the person's death" is considered the person's "underlying cause of death." In these cases, this would be COVID-19.

Key to understanding the issues in these posts is that, "If they had not gotten the infection," Dr. Artandi said, "they would still be alive."

Bro you're low iq

I said originally "the number that died from just Covid" meaning they had no co-morbidities was roughly 65K which is absolutely true

Evidence is quite clear that having a heart condition, diabetes, advanced age or maybe being super duper fat don't lead to a long term healthy life and those conditions contributed overwhelmingly to the covid death number 'scare everyone to lockdown and mask up for nothing' hysteria that idiots like you have been pushing on folks for 2 years

[Horza]

Really Elizondo…

No mention of the bodies own induced cytokine storm from CoVid19? The fact that excessive number of cytokines are released, which create high levels of inflammation in the area of the body being flooded. This inflammation of the patient’s own fluids, causes organ shutdown, affecting the lungs, heart and kidneys. Most drown in their own body fluids in their lungs damaged by their own immune system. If you survive that your own immune system can damage your heart as the virus infects your heart cells. The patients poor kidneys not only have to deal with excessive body fluid to excrete but the drugs they pump into you to deal with the inflammation.

So yeah there are more than one CONDITIONS leading to the death from ultimately CoVid19. I hate when antivaxxer purposely or idiotically Misconstrue the truth in the research.

Purposely or idiotically misconstruing the truth is pretty much the only way they can convince most ordinary people that just about the entire medical profession secretly work for Chinese reptilians.

[Trexller]

Purposely or idiotically misconstruing the truth is pretty much the only way the democrats can convince most stupid people that just about the entire medical profession does not secretly work for The chinese communist party, whether they know it or not

FTFY

[Jibartik]

look at this bitch incurring the wrath of the ccp by winning, didn't they listen to Diane.

https://i.imgur.com/J9ARDo5.gif

[Elizondo]

Purposely or idiotically misconstruing the truth is pretty much the only way they can convince most ordinary people that just about the entire medical profession secretly work for Chinese reptilians.

Nah man

Numbers are spot on straight from the CDC

Sorry your Covid Narrative is fallin apart

[Jibartik]

"With deep regret, we cannot get mad at the Chinese speed-skating judges"

https://i.imgur.com/92ZHEFD.gif

Dutch Journalist Dragged Away by Chinese Guard During Live Winter Olympics Broadcast (https://people.com/sports/beijing-olympics-dutch-journalist-dragged-away-by-chinese-authorities-during-live-broadcast/)

[Gravydoo II]

"With deep regret, we cannot get mad at the Chinese speed-skating judges"

https://i.imgur.com/92ZHEFD.gif

Dutch Journalist Dragged Away by Chinese Guard During Live Winter Olympics Broadcast (https://people.com/sports/beijing-olympics-dutch-journalist-dragged-away-by-chinese-authorities-during-live-broadcast/)

Whats wrong here..? The guy that fell down was already DQ'd..

[Jibartik]

lmao what a cuck

[Ennewi]

Bro you're low iq

I said originally "the number that died from just Covid" meaning they had no co-morbidities was roughly 65K which is absolutely true

You mean, the number of human beings that died.

Bro I'm low eq

So it would seem.

Evidence is quite clear that having a heart condition, diabetes, advanced age or maybe being super duper fat don't lead to a long term healthy life and those conditions contributed overwhelmingly to the covid death number

Yes, that was the point. Add chronic lung disease and sickle cell to that list, along with all of the cancer and transplant patients. Pandemic aside, very few people die with only one single condition to their name.

https://www.livescience.com/51122-world-health-problems (https://www.livescience.com/51122-world-health-problems.html#:~:text=Researchers%20analyzed%20inf ormation%20on%20about,health%20problems%2C%20the%2 0researchers%20found.)

If you're in perfect health, you're in the minority: Less than 5 percent of people worldwide had no health problems in 2013, a new study finds.

Researchers analyzed information on about 300 diseases and conditions — everything from acne and PMS to chronic conditions such as heart disease and diabetes — and more than 2,300 disease-related consequences, in people in 188 countries.

Overall, just 4.3 percent of people had no health problems, the researchers found. The likelihood of having any disease or condition increased with age: In developed countries, about 64 percent of kids under age 5 had a health problem in 2013, compared with 99.97 percent of adults ages 80 and older.

Often, people had more than one health condition, and about 2.3 billion people worldwide had more than five health ailments. Among people ages 80 and over in developed countries, about 65 percent had five to nine health ailments, and a quarter had 10 or more.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27994280/

On average, 3.4 causes per death were listed on each certificate.

Findings elsewhere place the number slightly lower.

'scare everyone to lockdown and mask up for nothing' hysteria that idiots like you have been pushing on folks for 2 years

Reviewing all of your contributions to this thread, would you say that you are in control of your emotions?

[Elizondo]

You mean, the number of human beings that died.



So it would seem.



Yes, that was the point. Add chronic lung disease and sickle cell to that list, along with all of the cancer and transplant patients. Pandemic aside, very few people die with only one single condition to their name.

https://www.livescience.com/51122-world-health-problems (https://www.livescience.com/51122-world-health-problems.html#:~:text=Researchers%20analyzed%20inf ormation%20on%20about,health%20problems%2C%20the%2 0researchers%20found.)





https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27994280/



Findings elsewhere place the number slightly lower.



Reviewing all of your contributions to this thread, would you say that you are in control of your emotions?

lol you have to edit quotes cuz you mad

So SAD

Your links confirmed exactly what I said initially. This is why even blue state governors who went nazi with lockdowns and mandates are now doin a 180 as the mid terms heat up.

People that died only from Covid with no existing serious health conditions is around 30-35k a year.

The mass fear and hysteria were all a scam. healthy folks were never in any real danger that justified everyone runnin around with pointless masks and the lockdowns did absolutely nothing. This is now proven "Science". You believe in 'SCIENCE!' right?

Sorry your Covid narrative fallin apart

[Jibartik]

mandates are now doin a 180 as the mid terms heat up.


Anyone who ever once uttered the words listen to the science, that is all of the sudden backing this anti mask, lockdowns didn't work, time to open up the economy, wont someone think about the children

aka every. single. liberal. media. outlet.

is the biggest fboi cuckold in the world.

I watch bill maher and that dude is 1:1 quoting trump on covid.

CNN did a piece about how he is right this morning.

[Reiwa]

lol you have to edit quotes cuz you mad

So SAD

Your links confirmed exactly what I said initially. This is why even blue state governors who went nazi with lockdowns and mandates are now doin a 180 as the mid terms heat up.

People that died only from Covid with no existing serious health conditions is around 30-35k a year.

The mass fear and hysteria were all a scam. healthy folks were never in any real danger that justified everyone runnin around with pointless masks and the lockdowns did absolutely nothing. This is now proven "Science". You believe in 'SCIENCE!' right?

Sorry your Covid narrative fallin apart

Sometimes Covid is comorbid with pneumonia, because it causes pneumonia. :p

[Elizondo]

Sometimes Covid is comorbid with pneumonia, because it causes pneumonia. :p

Bro I laid it out like 5 posts ago

78% were very elderly people and around 70%, possibly more had either diabetes or serious heart conditions which in pre school terms so you and Enniwayz understand means they lived really really really unhealthy lifestyles

Got it now? Good.

[Reiwa]

Bro I laid it out like 5 posts ago

78% were very elderly people and around 70%, possibly more had either diabetes or serious heart conditions which in pre school terms so you and Enniwayz understand means they lived really really really unhealthy lifestyles

Got it now? Good.

Repeating yourself louder doesn't make you right, it just makes you louder.

[Elizondo]

Repeating yourself louder doesn't make you right, it just makes you louder.

lol dude

Sorry you took yet another Big L

Maybe next time

[Gravydoo II]

lmao what a cuck

You mad he was already DQ'd?? Get mad pussy. Says it in the article you posted that you're retarded if you believe the guy that fell was still in the race.

[Ennewi]

lol you have to edit quotes cuz you mad

So SAD

Your links confirmed exactly what I said initially. This is why even blue state governors who went nazi with lockdowns and mandates are now doin a 180 as the mid terms heat up.

People that died only from Covid with no existing serious health conditions is around 30-35k a year.

The mass fear and hysteria were all a scam. healthy folks were never in any real danger that justified everyone runnin around with pointless masks and the lockdowns did absolutely nothing. This is now proven "Science". You believe in 'SCIENCE!' right?

Sorry your Covid narrative fallin apart

https://i.imgur.com/JYZkSNB.gif

[unsunghero]

I haven’t been following but from reading many sorryantivaxxer deaths the majority of people I read about died from either organ failure or pneumonia

A decent chunk of the organ failure seemed to be kidney failure as a result of being offered remedisivir. Word of mouth must have spread amongst the anti-vaxx community because some of the recent deaths knew the high risks of remedisivir and while they were still conscious refused it. The hospital apparently will oblige the patient’s requests, and they didn’t get it…but they still died regardless

One (one could say dumb) badass I read about came into the hospital refusing all drugs or to be put on a ventilator. I don’t really understand what he expected the hospital to do. Anyway he was dead in 3 hours

For the rest their lungs started to fill with fluids and, like, crystallize. This is why the ventilators don’t work well. Apparently they do CT scans of the lungs and the pulmonologist looks at them and for many there are so many dark spots it doesn’t even look like they have lungs anymore. They also have to tubes going into their lungs to drain the fluid

The organs start failing due to not getting oxygen. My personal friend who died to covid had her heart shut down. I think it’s random which organ it can be, it can also be your brain, which is why if you survive it might be with debilitating brain damage

I learned about how the ventilators work. Initially they will do tubes down your throat, so to keep you from freaking out and either gagging them up or pulling them out they will sedate you 24/7. This will go on for about 3 weeks, they don’t want you sedated 24/7 past that for reasons unknown, I’m assuming because it will also kill you. 3 weeks seems to be the hospital’s limit. After that they cut a hole in your neck (trach) and put the tube in that, and then you I think would normally be conscious but many aren’t due to lack of oxygen

They are pumping oxygen into you via tubes but it doesn’t matter because your lungs have either withered away or hardened. So the mechanism to absorb and convert that oxygen is gone. But like I mentioned you usually die to organ failure before you suffocate

[Ennewi]

This is now proven "Science". You believe in 'SCIENCE!' right?

For future reference, this is where the obvious attempts at trolling showed. Those reused words in all caps and the care put into punctuation for emphasis where otherwise there is none. A little too on the nose.

[Patriam1066]

https://i.imgur.com/JYZkSNB.gif

Lol’d

[Elizondo]

For future reference, this is where the obvious attempts at trolling showed. Those reused words in all caps and the care put into punctuation for emphasis where otherwise there is none. A little too on the nose.

nah man

That's what folks like you screamed at everyone when they were questioning endless lock downs and pointless mask mandates

You reduced to callin peeps trolls and posting red neck gifs cuz you have a big ego and too much pride

[Trexller]

nah man

That's what folks like you screamed at everyone when they were questioning endless lock downs and pointless mask mandates

You reduced to callin peeps trolls and posting red neck gifs cuz you have a big ego and too much pride

and absolutely nothing to justify the demands of the modern liberal.

[Ennewi]

I learned about how the ventilators work. Initially they will do tubes down your throat, so to keep you from freaking out and either gagging them up or pulling them out they will sedate you 24/7. This will go on for about 3 weeks, they don’t want you sedated 24/7 past that for reasons unknown, I’m assuming because it will also kill you. 3 weeks seems to be the hospital’s limit. After that they cut a hole in your neck (trach) and put the tube in that, and then you I think would normally be conscious but many aren’t due to lack of oxygen

They are pumping oxygen into you via tubes but it doesn’t matter because your lungs have either withered away or hardened. So the mechanism to absorb and convert that oxygen is gone. But like I mentioned you usually die to organ failure before you suffocate

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-covid-michigan-woman-lung-transplant-20210223-stayikzc7beftlrigj5qree5be-story.html

A Michigan woman contracted COVID-19 from the lungs she received during a transplant and died two months later.

The woman, who has not been publicly identified, received the new lungs from a woman declared brain dead after a car accident, according to a new study from the American Journal of Transplantation.

Both women tested negative for COVID-19 before the surgery — the car crash victim within 48 hours of organ removal and the recipient, 12 hours before the operation. The donor’s family also said she was showing no symptoms before the accident and had no history of travel, but did not know if she could have been exposed to the virus elsewhere.

A day after the transplant at the University of Michigan, the woman’s heart was not pumping as effectively as expected, and two days later, she developed a fever, low blood pressure and respiratory distress.

Doctors re-tested the patient for COVID-19, with the test coming back positive this time. The donor also tested positive on a second sample, as did the thoracic surgeon who performed the transplant surgery.

“You can’t 100% prove that someone doesn’t have something because we don’t have perfect tests. So we try and put together a combination of their exposures, their clinical history, testing, radiology like a CT-scan of the lung of the donor, which was done and didn’t show anything that looked like COVID,” Dr. Daniel Kaul, the director of the Transplant Infectious Disease Service at the University Michigan who helped write the study, told the Detroit Free Press.

“We do all those things and say, ‘Well, as best we can determine, this donor is safe to use.’ But unfortunately in this case, there was asymptomatic COVID that was not detected by the standard testing.”

The donor recipient was prescribed Remdesivir, convalescent plasma and steroids but died two months after the transplant.

[Ennewi]

nah man

That's what folks like you screamed at everyone when they were questioning endless lock downs and pointless mask mandates

You reduced to callin peeps trolls and posting red neck gifs cuz you have a big ego and too much pride

https://i.imgur.com/uD2r2iX.jpg

[Elizondo]

https://i.imgur.com/uD2r2iX.jpg

lol

[starkind]

Trolls the original purple haired freaks!

[Penish]

lol, time for your fifth booster soon guys, this one'll work fer sure

[Ennewi]

lol, time for my five hundred and twenty-second post soon guys, this one'll work fer sure

[Toxigen]

enjoy your 40% increase in early deaths jabbies

[Jibartik]

Pig hearts for everyone!!

Goat legs for some….

[Reiwa]

The vaccine liability whiners are gonna be big mad when they find out about sovereign immunity. 🤪

[starkind]

I would have gone back for pfizer. V2 I've been dog shit sick since dec tho.

[Jimjam]

enjoy your 40% increase in early deaths jabbies

Should I lower my pension contributions and just spend it now?

[starkind]

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/johnson-and-johnson-covid-19-vaccine-production-halt/

Kinda funny these vax were used at a predominantly black VA and then never offered again.

Ya'll there is some next level shady shit going on with Rona when the VA doctor gets 1 vax and the majority black demographic gets another.

Then they pull that vax in the US.

Then they didn't offer boosters publicly.

I really don't like my government.

I really don't think people are paying attention or caring enough about shooting straight and doing things right. They're "just following orders ".

Zero checking or cross checking.

That plus seeing first hand and hearing 2cnd hand what hospitals are doing with their insurance coding practices and stuff is pretty proof positive of a genocide against certain people. For example not doing a covid test. Yet doing the insurance claim as viral syndrome. That way they can fast track ppl out the door and save money or a spot for someone else they will get a better payout from. Like another dr with high paying insurance.

The real funny thing is it's backfiring because it's starting to disrupt the workforce that keeps the economy pumping and these demons in control.

[GinnasP99]

FRKI0A43Sn8

[Toxigen]

Should I lower my pension contributions and just spend it now?

yeah man go all out

max your CCs, hookers and blow for the rest of your days

[xosta]

Well, I agree that people should decide for themselves whether to vaccinate or not, but I just think that it's better to get a vaccine and stop worrying about covid, even though there's still a chance of you catching the virus. That's why it's also important to support your health using CBN Oil (https://www.laweekly.com/what-is-cbn-oil-neurogan-guide/) or other supplements to improve your overall well-being and immune system, especially for people who are not willing to vaccinate.

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/t97RFtC.jpeg

[Ennewi]

zbx3_Qhbi3E

[ReoDobbs]

Old lord I knew I shouldn't have opened this thread, pretty sure I lost 20 IQ points just from scanning the first and last page

[Jimjam]

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/johnson-and-johnson-covid-19-vaccine-production-halt/

Kinda funny these vax were used at a predominantly black VA and then never offered again.

Ya'll there is some next level shady shit going on with Rona when the VA doctor gets 1 vax and the majority black demographic gets another.

Then they pull that vax in the US.

Then they didn't offer boosters publicly.

I really don't like my government.

I really don't think people are paying attention or caring enough about shooting straight and doing things right. They're "just following orders ".

Zero checking or cross checking.

That plus seeing first hand and hearing 2cnd hand what hospitals are doing with their insurance coding practices and stuff is pretty proof positive of a genocide against certain people. For example not doing a covid test. Yet doing the insurance claim as viral syndrome. That way they can fast track ppl out the door and save money or a spot for someone else they will get a better payout from. Like another dr with high paying insurance.

The real funny thing is it's backfiring because it's starting to disrupt the workforce that keeps the economy pumping and these demons in control.

Too many people opening their eyes. They need a bigger distraction like a bigger war to put the blinkers back on.

[Trexller]

Plandemic is over.

We completed our list of "compliant citizens" and "non-compliant citizens"

Thanks for playing.

[Toxigen]

uh oh jabbies not feeling so good

https://twitter.com/ShannonJoyRadio/status/1498747460470157327

[Elizondo]

uh oh jabbies not feeling so good

https://twitter.com/ShannonJoyRadio/status/1498747460470157327

Folks that got jabbed should sue

oh ... nevermind

[starkind]

uh oh jabbies not feeling so good

https://twitter.com/ShannonJoyRadio/status/1498747460470157327

If they stole my mRNA to make this back in 2018 ya'll r fuccccckkkked lol 😆 😂 🤣

[Trexller]

Folks that got jabbed should sue

oh ... nevermind

thats the #1 reason i won't get it

Pharma: "Here we made this vaccine that you must accept right the fuck now, and there's absolutely no help or recourse for you if shit goes south after we jab you"

I don't care if the adverse effects are in .00001% of cases or 100%. if before you rolled out your product, you made damn sure that nobody can sue you, like, you wrote it law, then you know that there are ways this can go horribly wrong.

@Pharma: Go fuck yourselves, i'll take my chances. If the vaccine is so god damn good, then you are protected from the dirty unvaxxed like me.

[Reiwa]

i think the liability waiver is cuz you can't sue the government w/o permission and they were doing stuff for the government.

it's implied by the relationship! Mr Tromp just put it in writing.

[Trexller]

i think the liability waiver is cuz you can't sue the government w/o permission and they were doing stuff for the government.

it's implied by the relationship! Mr Tromp just put it in writing.

Yeah pharma had trump by the balls on that one, "were the only ones who can make a vaccine, so you're doing everything that we say"

imagine if any other product shipped with this stipulation:

"we'll do your appendix surgery, but if we leave gauze inside you can't sue us"

"Here, buy this car, but if any manufacturer defect causes you to die, you can't sue us"

"I'll sell you a hamburger, but if there is a razor blade in the meat, you can't sue us"

[Jibartik]

Kraft puts wood in parmesan cheese.

[starkind]

Kraft puts wood in parmesan cheese.

Hehehehehe imagine getting fed kraft as a fetus.

https://i.imgur.com/TXuhPq7.jpeg

[Gustoo]

Every time I see this thread I hope to see a gif of a person getting the vaccine and their entire body exploding or something. Or maybe their arm exploding. something stupid.

[cd288]

I will say, COVID really fucked up my respiratory system overall even though actually having Covid wasn’t that bad in terms of symptoms. I highly recommend getting vaccinated and doing everything you can to avoid getting Covid because even if the disease doesn’t cause severe symptoms when you have it, the long term effects can still be quite bad.

[cd288]

uh oh jabbies not feeling so good

https://twitter.com/ShannonJoyRadio/status/1498747460470157327

I mean this is a bit misleading. If you look at almost any drug and ask for a list of every single adverse reaction that’s ever happened as a result of taking it you will get a massive list like this. That could include only one person having that reaction but it goes on the list. Literally almost every drug, shot, whatever is like this.

They let is the incidence rate, which for the vaccine is extremely low. It’s lower than many other medicines which I bet you’ve taken in your life, but I don’t see you freaking out about taking those. Are you gonna stop taking Tylenol and Advil too?

[hobart]

Yeah pharma had trump by the balls on that one, "were the only ones who can make a vaccine, so you're doing everything that we say"

imagine if any other product shipped with this stipulation:

"we'll do your appendix surgery, but if we leave gauze inside you can't sue us"

"Here, buy this car, but if any manufacturer defect causes you to die, you can't sue us"

"I'll sell you a hamburger, but if there is a razor blade in the meat, you can't sue us"

This is the way it is in much of the world. Motorcycle helmet fails to adequately protect your melon in a crash in most of Europe -- you can sue, but damages are limited to the price of the helmet.

[Elizondo]

MVBJT2zeSqs

[Reiwa]

Kraft puts wood in parmesan cheese.

Do you mean cellulose? Yeah they put that on shredded cheese to make it stick together less. That's why it doesn't melt right.

[starkind]

I'm rly sorry the rly cute CDC executive greenlighted giving you my mRNA.

[Jibartik]

Do you mean cellulose? Yeah they put that on shredded cheese to make it stick together less. That's why it doesn't melt right.

yes cellulose means wood.

https://i.imgur.com/9W06Fdp.png

[starkind]

Starkind wishes to make super awesome starkind friendly happy nice safe healthy loving cheese and sell it. Or even give it away! Sharing is caring. That'd be so awesome.

/\

[Reiwa]

yes cellulose means wood.

https://i.imgur.com/9W06Fdp.png

Plant cell walls?

(Gotta hit 'em all.)

[Jibartik]

life sucks compared to 1990 but you guys are right social justice is wait its worse now.

[starkind]

I get my cellulous from whole sunflower 🌻 seeds!

[New_Guy]

It's funny that Trump supporters think they have logical points and then you look at Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebart and realize nope, they are just retards.

[hobart]

It's funny that Trump supporters think they have logical points and then you look at Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebart and realize nope, they are just retards.

Don't make fun of Boebert. She went out and get her a GED after she was elected to Congress. You have to be educated to represent western slope retards, after all.