When an antivaxxer get covid

[Elizondo]

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[starkind]

There are two, polar opposite readings to this that reasonable people could come to.

There's more than that but the one you're thinking of only plays in Peoria.

Muscles aren't too useful against viruses.

All I know is that he's kinda handsome and clever looking in that hat!

COVID, is in due part a sin of not one, instead many. And even I am not entirely without sin. However if we all valued cleanliness and godliness. Truth. Integrity. And cared for our world and eachother as if we should care for our own bodies, it likely would have not been a major worldwide disease. Yet, instead humanity revels in corruption, gluttony, and sloth. I'm probably one of the worst with sloth, and wrath, and neglect. Perhaps. I'll leave that judgment to others.

I'm not demanding anything of anyone. I am just calling it as I see it. I suppose I could have gone all in and gotten boosted in October or whenever, and again last month? Yet, I really did have a bad time immediately correlating with the vax. I'm poor. Sick. And my caretaker has also been sick. My healthcare options suck, and almost killed me or already did help. So.. that between satans holiday madness has really hindered boosties, thats my main excuse. I'd have a panic attack if I got vaxxed again, although I may want to anyway.

I'm not saying it's always 100% any which way, or single interpretation, and as Whale biologist says, many more are applicable, not just two binary opposites.

More likely that I'm partly responsible for the greater whole, and totally responsible for myself simultaneously. And yeah if I had better muscles and didn't self harm prior to the pandemic, I'd be in a better position to help myself and others.

I really enjoy how that quote is open to interpretation, yet, essentially correct.

Also, look at who got richer and way more powerful these last few years.

So I eat my vitamin C, and drink water, and hobble walk as much as I can occasionally bathing and dreaming of squats again between mob spawns.

Hope this helps!

[Botten]

Elizondo, where did you dig up this fossil video? Those logos were so so so long ago.

Current logo (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/YuCM509VHI_xMAq7UWLVPHIFHKGVEfAnjPrOnzFHYdXr3q1iYp wwcttkSQBGScdkgTP_pPEhjpYKzmJA-SoJK7LJZGhRKe5E8y6KVfKgmGS1QgCgK2XHAoFyYlfRyeykNlu 4R8Qx)

…at least try to be somewhat relevant with your fake news you copied from Facebook.

[Elizondo]

Elizondo, where did you dig up this fossil video? Those logos were so so so long ago.

Current logo (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/YuCM509VHI_xMAq7UWLVPHIFHKGVEfAnjPrOnzFHYdXr3q1iYp wwcttkSQBGScdkgTP_pPEhjpYKzmJA-SoJK7LJZGhRKe5E8y6KVfKgmGS1QgCgK2XHAoFyYlfRyeykNlu 4R8Qx)

…at least try to be somewhat relevant with your fake news you copied from Facebook.

lol dude the only person dumb enough to believe your tube of paste at the movies story is Horza

[Whale biologist]

Also, look at who got richer and way more powerful these last few years.



TyzLtBCy3Zo

[Botten]

lol dude the only person dumb enough to believe your tube of paste at the movies story is Horza

That wasn't you was it Elizondo?! Is that why you are pissed? I am sorry I didn't mean to call you out. And real story is real; deal.

[starkind]

TyzLtBCy3Zo
Stawman.

I wasn't talking about Amazon. Tho he did get more "rich".

Anyway, you're essentially right.

And I digress... this goes into economics...and why is Amazon, Walmart, Rural King the supply chain... and how come no space elevators or locally sourced pesticides and phosphogypsum free whole foods, and why a monoculture of wheat, sugar, and rancid oil + a mega industry treating heart disease, cancer, and respiratory ailments all directly related to endocrine and immune dysfunction...and we just happened to get this particular disease...

I know you don't believe in actual evil people pulling the levers to feed off the mountains of corpses they generate while hearding us like cattel into their little cottage industries that exploit our conditioning and instincts.

Yet, while AoC is kinda dumb sometimes, and another problem entirely.

People are still being gluttonous bastards. And maybe...just maybe the entire system would collapse without Bezos wolfdaddy and Newt Gingrich's favorite lobbies devouring the weak... we lie to ourselves about it every day rather than facing the facts.

That enables everyone to point fingers at eachother instead of themselves. And that is the point I'm making.

Now, if I where a more capable and effective person, I would personally work towards a more meritorious and less profit driven system where people where rewarded for doing good things, for themselves and others, not just simply exploited because they are essentially animals with almost no conscious control over themselves.

I only hope to elevate a few eyebrows, let alone people to these thoughts. Profit could still even be had, luxuries could still exist. Yet, I do believe United Healthcare and the Vax lords need to eat shit before any meaningful change happens. I wish it wasn't at the expense of the poor. Stupid. Or disabled. However, I already am getting my ass handed too me. So I'm screaming ouch!

[Elizondo]

That wasn't you was it Elizondo?! Is that why you are pissed? I am sorry I didn't mean to call you out. And real story is real; deal.

haha you're so full of shit!

pathetic and desperate

[ShampooChicken]

Haha yeah, we used to have Fourlokos which were the same thing, and also got banned and they had to take the caffeine out in order to start selling it again.

I guess I'm just primed to reassure people if they are worried about cardiac stuff cause when I was in my early 20's I had extremely bad anxiety and panic issues, and I didn't know that's what they were at the time, and I started having extremely fast racing heartbeats and skipped heartbeats and thought I was gonna die for like five years, it was really awful. Then I finally saw a doctor and a cardiologist and they determined everything was fine and I just had horrible anxiety, which triggers huge adrenaline and other hormonal things that affect the heart.

Yep I did have a few panic attacks in my 20's so I got familiar with the emotional feeling of dread and angst that accompanies those. These recent events happened when I was relaxed and resting in a calm mental state. You are right to consider it though because they can get confused.

[starkind]

Yep I did have a few panic attacks in my 20's so I got familiar with the emotional feeling of dread and angst that accompanies those. These recent events happened when I was relaxed and resting in a calm mental state. You are right to consider it though because they can get confused.
Told like 13 different doctors none gave a shit.

Must be the VA and lack of private insurance.

[ShampooChicken]

Told like 13 different doctors none gave a shit.

Must be the VA and lack of private insurance.

It's generally the same even with private doctors/insurance in the USA. Doctors here work long hours, are subject to perverse incentives, and most of them will rush through your case. Unless you're lucky and find a good one.

The one time in my life when I truly needed doctors, they took out my appendix, then told me afterwards they were wrong and I didn't have appendicitis. If I wasn't insured they were going to charge 13 grand for that too. Would have been double the money if it happened today.

Oh well. I try to look out for my own health as best I can so I'm not at the mercy of a broken system.

[unsunghero]

CDC shortens quarantine time from 10 days to 5 days

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/12/27/omicron-airlines-cancel-flights-covid-updates/9021308002/

A lot of leftists who used to worship the CDC and Fauci are now unhappy, claiming the CDC only made the change after Delta airlines CEO asked them to about a week ago

We still “trusting the science” here?

[starkind]

jalepeno eggs and potatoes this morning!

cough is dry AND less persistent!

CDC shortens quarantine time from 10 days to 5 days

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/12/27/omicron-airlines-cancel-flights-covid-updates/9021308002/

A lot of leftists who used to worship the CDC and Fauci are now unhappy, claiming the CDC only made the change after Delta airlines CEO asked them to about a week ago

We still “trusting the science” here?

https://i.imgur.com/GJtkJQa.jpg

[unsunghero]

New York Times respond to CDC with: Will shortened quarantine times spread the virus?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/28/health/covid-isolation-period-omicron.html


Hey NYT, that sounds like science questioning to me. I have a question for you, is this your staff now?

[starkind]

they poisoned and scooped that man :(

[Reiwa]

Happy 2022 (https://twitter.com/JoeKinseyexp/status/1477143918923988996?t=Kob17m1NDas9qao36U14BQ&s=19)

[hobart]

CDC shortens quarantine time from 10 days to 5 days

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/12/27/omicron-airlines-cancel-flights-covid-updates/9021308002/

A lot of leftists who used to worship the CDC and Fauci are now unhappy, claiming the CDC only made the change after Delta airlines CEO asked them to about a week ago

We still “trusting the science” here?

So if you heed experts and respect expertise, you "worship" them?

Extremists on both sides are ruining America. You're not helping.

[hobart]

^^^ crickets cause there's no good rebuttal to that cartoon

The truth needs no rebuttal.

By politicizing the virus early on, Trump is very culpable for the distrust of the experts by his base of rubes and idiots. And the initial rollout of the vaccines was poor because Orange Julius Caesar only cared about the election results at that point.

The Biden administration has overseen getting a shot every arm who wants it. There really is nothing more they can do.

[cd288]

CDC shortens quarantine time from 10 days to 5 days

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/12/27/omicron-airlines-cancel-flights-covid-updates/9021308002/

A lot of leftists who used to worship the CDC and Fauci are now unhappy, claiming the CDC only made the change after Delta airlines CEO asked them to about a week ago

We still “trusting the science” here?

I was really surprised by this honestly. Really seemed like something you would see under Trump. The data so far clearly shows that omicron can remain contagious for longer than 5 days and the CDC basically admitted that this was a decision made for the ease of businesses because they admitted that omicron can be contagious longer than 5 days.

They’re hoping that if you’re vaccinated it’s not a significant level of contagiousness such that wearing a proper mask will ensure you can’t infect others. That I do think is accurate, but still seems dumb to take the risk.

[Gravydoo II]

The government is incorruptible!!!!

Does anyone really believe that? Yea, you can sign a bunch of checks through lobbyists and change regulations. It happens all the time. Its called "america since republicans made corporate lobbyists the most powerful people in the world.".

[unsunghero]

I was really surprised by this honestly. Really seemed like something you would see under Trump. The data so far clearly shows that omicron can remain contagious for longer than 5 days and the CDC basically admitted that this was a decision made for the ease of businesses because they admitted that omicron can be contagious longer than 5 days.

They’re hoping that if you’re vaccinated it’s not a significant level of contagiousness such that wearing a proper mask will ensure you can’t infect others. That I do think is accurate, but still seems dumb to take the risk.

It just seemed really coincidental considering “Delta's CEO asked the CDC for a 5-day isolation. Some flight attendants feel at risk” and right after it gets changed

https://www.npr.org/2021/12/29/1068731487/delta-ceo-asks-cdc-to-cut-quarantine

I just wanted to show how government bodies, even ones based on scientific research are not infallible and maybe can be “bought”

If there is a way to make covid potentially go away completely, it seems like it would be herd immunity. Then, considering Omicron seems to be a strain with a significantly lower lethality or hospitalization rate than Delta, then maybe it isn’t a bad idea to not attempt to strongly restrict its spread. But if that was the CDC’s reasoning, you would expect them to come out and announce it as their reasoning

[Reiwa]

The government is incorruptible!!!!

Does anyone really believe that? Yea, you can sign a bunch of checks through lobbyists and change regulations. It happens all the time. Its called "america since republicans made corporate lobbyists the most powerful people in the world.".

What? Is this a Buckley-Valeo citation?

[Mblake1981]

herd immunity

Are human bodies herd or pack animals?

[Trexller]

The truth needs no rebuttal.

By politicizing the virus early on, Trump is very culpable for the distrust of the experts by his base of rubes and idiots. And the initial rollout of the vaccines was poor because Orange Julius Caesar only cared about the election results at that point.

The Biden administration has overseen getting a shot every arm who wants it. There really is nothing more they can do.



nothing more to do except pass the buck for bidens epic failure telling state governor's that "there is no federal solution, this is solved at the state level" AFTER campaigning that he would stop the virus in his first 200 days.

yet another biden admin fuck up. more americans died from covid under biden than Trump

dumbfuck communist

[Gravydoo II]

Who let it in? Who let it run rampant on purpose? Who had the means to stop it but didnt do a god damn thing? Why was jared kushner put in charge of the response to the pandemic? Who sold off americas supply of PPE to the highest bidders? The rape admin.. now its bidens fault. LOLOL

[Trexller]

Who let it in? Who let it run rampant on purpose? Who had the means to stop it but didnt do a god damn thing? Why was jared kushner put in charge of the response to the pandemic? Who sold off americas supply of PPE to the highest bidders? The rape admin.. now its bidens fault. LOLOL

doesn't matter what happens anywhere in the world, its always the sitting U.S. president's fault.

welcome to politics.

[Elizondo]

Biden biggest failure ever

Responsible for more than 400K Covid Deaths after having promised to shut down the virus

[Homesteaded]

Who let it in? Who let it run rampant on purpose? Who had the means to stop it but didnt do a god damn thing? Why was jared kushner put in charge of the response to the pandemic? Who sold off americas supply of PPE to the highest bidders? The rape admin.. now its bidens fault. LOLOL

Let it in? Lol

Follow the science guy says some completely moronic shit like this, who let in the airborne virus. You’re a clown and at best we all hope you’re a troll. TnP

[Elizondo]

Let it in? Lol

Follow the science guy says some completely moronic shit like this, who let in the airborne virus. You’re a clown and at best we all hope you’re a troll. TnP

The Government claiming it will stop a virus is like the Government saying they will stop a hurricane

Everybody fell for the propaganda and now have to be jabbed forever to be considered 'fully vaxxed' by their overlords

[Jibartik]

a pangolin let it in.

because the governments are all lizards.

[Trexller]

a pangolin let it in.

because the governments are all lizards.

makes sense, a pangolin is a scaled mammal

like this one too:

https://i.imgur.com/ogh4mMd.jpg

[starkind]

would laugh if a tromp got elected in 24, and hillary got elected to the One World government in 26 by the rest of the world and tromp joined lawl.

[Gravydoo II]

Let it in? Lol

Follow the science guy says some completely moronic shit like this, who let in the airborne virus. You’re a clown and at best we all hope you’re a troll. TnP

So.. who let it in? Presidents defend the country not lie to its people about literally every single failure of your command. Who let it in? Who did nothing while it destroyed the country for a year? DOHHHH your fucking daddy, pussy.

[Gatordash]

I feel like we are back to 2020. I got customers cancelling due to Covid and employees calling out sick left and right. Rough start to the year business-wise.

[Jibartik]

would laugh if a tromp got elected in 24, and hillary got elected to the One World government in 26 by the rest of the world and tromp joined lawl.

Id be glowing.

[Homesteaded]

So.. who let it in? Presidents defend the country not lie to its people about literally every single failure of your command. Who let it in? Who did nothing while it destroyed the country for a year? DOHHHH your fucking daddy, pussy.

No one let it in. China covered up its existence initially. Trump closed travel to and from China and was called racist. You live in a fairy tale if you believe this could of been stopped.

Unless you wanted Trump to shut the country down completely. Which I’m sure you would of been completely okay with. Shut your idiot mouth, ask your dad why he lives in a world shaped by Christian ideals but pretends to be above it.

[Botten]

No one let it in. China covered up its existence initially. Trump closed travel to and from China and was called racist. You live in a fairy tale if you believe this could of been stopped.

Unless you wanted Trump to shut the country down completely. Which I’m sure you would of been completely okay with. Shut your idiot mouth, ask your dad why he lives in a world shaped by Christian ideals but pretends to be above it.

Could have been handle way better. Kushner didn't immediately act because it was affecting blue states. Trump administration sat on it and let it spread in the US. Yes, Trump administration could have done a LOT MORE and it resulted in a recession. GOP are the idiots if they elect republican president after president that result in a recession.

And then there was this little gem where we did handle a small pandemic with a democrat President.

Obama Declares H1N1 a National Emergency - He handles the issue

by Peggy Peck, Executive Editor, MedPage Today October 24, 2009

WASHINGTON -- President Obama has upped the ante in the battle to control the H1N1 flu by declaring it a national emergency, the second such declaration since the flu first emerged last spring.

The White House said the proclamation, which was signed late Friday, will allow public health agencies as well as doctors and hospitals to bypass certain requirements, but details about how that will transfer into clinical practice are not clear.

The proclamation notes that the declaration is a precautionary measure, "given that the rapid increase in illness across the Nation may overburden healthcare resources and that the temporary waiver of certain standard Federal requirements may be warranted in order to enable U.S. healthcare facilities to implement emergency operations plans."

At least one extraordinary step -- FDA permission to use the investigational antiviral peramivir to treat patients who are critically ill with H1N1 -- was also announced yesterday.

Last April, in the early days of the H1N1 outbreak, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, speaking for the administration, declared a public health emergency. That declaration freed up supplies of oseltamivir (Tamiflu) and zanamivir (Relenza) from the national stockpile.

At a press briefing yesterday, CDC director Thomas Frieden, MD, said that H1N1 has thus far claimed more than 1,000 American lives, a death toll that includes about 100 children. Moreover, 46 states are reporting widespead flu activity.

GOP Recessions:

The 1923–24 Recession: Warren G. Harding
The 1926–27 Recession: Calvin Coolidge
The Great Depression: Herbert Hoover
The Recession of 1953: Dwight D. Eisenhower
The Recession of 1958: Dwight D. Eisenhower
The Recession of 1960–1961: Dwight D. Eisenhower
The Recession of 1969–1970: Richard Nixon
The Recession of 1973–75: Richard Nixon (Began in Nov. 1973, Ford took over in August of 1974)
The 1981–82 Recession: Ronald Reagan
Early 1990s recession in the United States: George H.W. Bush
Early 2000s Recession: George W. Bush
The Great Recession: George W. Bush (Began Dec. 2007, Obama took office Jan. 2009)

Do the right thing. Don't vote GOP

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[Jibartik]

Nask your dad why he lives in a world shaped by Christian ideals but pretends to be above it.

ooh ooh I know!

https://i.imgur.com/vgJOAIJ.jpg

[Reiwa]

ooh ooh I know!

https://i.imgur.com/vgJOAIJ.jpg

Ascribing Enlightenment ideals to Christianity is pretty blasphemous tbqh.

[Elizondo]

Biden responsible for more Covid deaths than anyone and dems still tryin to blame Trump

SO SAD

[F0rmsh1fter]

TFW the people who got it the worst are the ones who got all 3 “vaccines”

[unsunghero]

Video explains why obese people’s bodies cannot make antibodies for covid

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pu0vh9-zZ3s

[unsunghero]

^

Also makes a tongue in check comment that news networks refuse to cover this fact

[Toxigen]

fat shaming is illegal

[F0rmsh1fter]

I especially like when vaxxed people seemingly get it worse than those of us who didn’t take the mark of the beast shot

[Botten]

Video explains why obese people’s bodies cannot make antibodies for covid



The vaccine is forcing the body to make anti-bodies this can be seen from the hospitalization of vaccinated vs non-vaccinated.

I would argue your blood type, genetics and the cytokine storm response is a bigger factor. Especially with deaths associated with the disease.

And if you are a smoker!

[unsunghero]

The vaccine is forcing the body to make anti-bodies this can be seen from the hospitalization of vaccinated vs non-vaccinated.

I would argue your blood type, genetics and the cytokine storm response is a bigger factor. Especially with deaths associated with the disease.

And if you are a smoker!

This vid has a lot of medical terms and jargon but basically describes how it’s been discovered that in addition to not producing the good antibodies needed to fight off covid, obese bodies produce a kind of antibodies that attacks their own healthy body cells

“Autoimmune” in this screen cap means attacks healthy body cells

[Homesteaded]

If you could design a virus to run through a society Covid would be a decent creation. Kills the elderly, immune compromised and the fats.

[Jibartik]

If it wasn’t a conspiracy you’d be able to know the medical history of people who died of covid.

[unsunghero]

I’m only halfway through the Dr Malone Joe Rogan podcast because that happens to be how much time it takes me to wash and 303-armorial all the interior and exterior of all rubber and plastic on my new truck, and that’s what I was listening to doing it

I didn’t get to the mass formation psychosis argument yet, but from working in mental health I’ve never heard of anything like that. Seems like a better argument would just be to claim covid has turned more individuals into hypochondriacs, but that’s just a hypothetical argument, I’m not backing it with any data

From what I can remember some of the stuff I didn’t like is when Dr Malone seemed to suggest that most “conspiracy” (keep in mind something is only a conspiracy until it’s proven right though, if it ever is) theories about covid are true, and examples he mentions are hospitals being paid to diagnose and treat covid, especially via ventilators. I proposed that theory on Facebook before almost anyone, and cited some figures, but those pertained to patients with Medicare, and the supporting evidence wasn’t super solid. Dr Malone mentions he isn’t a hospital administrator to really know, but says it’s true anyway, and then randomly guesses the amount the hospital makes per patient dx and ventilator tx. It’s like….if you’re not a hospital administrator, just say you don’t know. Because people are going to expect a citation with an exact figure backed by lots of proof. It very well might be true, but he didn’t make a good argument for it there IMO, even though it was something I had claimed in the past as well

What he did say that resonated was that it’s not possible for an individual to make an informed consent about their choice of medical treatment when any possible negative to that treatment are shut down and de-platformed as vaccine hesitancy. I think he does on the podcast actually confirm that myocarditis is rare, like 1:2000ish, but that there are many other possible side effects to vaccine that can correlate to things like your blood sugar levels. But he mentions that no medical professional is allowed to discuss these unless they work for the cdc or who without risk of their career being ruined. I understand the idea of not wanting to promote vaccine hesitancy, but by suppressing any criticisms or mentions of side effects, you do also destroy the idea of informed consent, somewhat (to anyone that wants more than just what the cdc and who say about something)

He goes into “follow the money” arguments about the integration of big pharma, hospitals, and big tech, none of it really made me put on a tin foil hat though

Overall, he doesn’t seem as crazy as people have accused him of being, but again I’m only halfway through the podcast, not sure when I’ll have time to finish, probably next chore I’ll be doing

[starkind]

Video explains why obese people’s bodies cannot make antibodies for covid

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pu0vh9-zZ3s

Seems pretty Cool Normal Sane Informed well put together in his video to me. He didn't say anything I wouldn't!

His video on IF is really good too.

[robayon]

Shut your idiot mouth, ask your dad why he lives in a world shaped by Christian ideals but pretends to be above it.So what's your excuse?

Nah, go ahead and keep on displaying those fine Christian values, you're doing great buddy, really making inroads and converting hearts & minds here on the Elf forum

[BlackBellamy]

fat shaming is illegal

Only for a short while!

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/jan_2022/covid_19_democratic_voters_support_harsh_measures_ against_unvaccinated

Nearly half (48%) of Democratic voters think federal and state governments should be able to fine or imprison individuals who publicly question the efficacy of the existing COVID-19 vaccines on social media, television, radio, or in online or digital publications.

One fifth of the country wants to lock you up in jail with ass-rapists because you publicly question the efficacy of existing vaccines!

It's only a matter of time until they decide people who question the fat acceptance movement should suffer a similar fate.

Is this an online publication?

[Botten]

Only for a short while!

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/jan_2022/covid_19_democratic_voters_support_harsh_measures_ against_unvaccinated



One fifth of the country wants to lock you up in jail with ass-rapists because you publicly question the efficacy of existing vaccines!

It's only a matter of time until they decide people who question the fat acceptance movement should suffer a similar fate.

Is this an online publication?

Imagine that FoxNews has you that gaslighted in which you feel you need to clutch your gun because others want you to stay safe and live longer.

[F0rmsh1fter]

Imagine that FoxNews has you that gaslighted in which you feel you need to clutch your gun because others want you to stay safe and live longer.

Imagine cnn has you that gaslighted in which you feel masks and “vaccines” are effective but yours won’t work unless everyone else wears a mask and gets vaccinated (and then still get covid, probably worse than those of us with immune systems)

[Botten]

Imagine cnn has you that gaslighted in which you feel masks and “vaccines” are effective but yours won’t work unless everyone else wears a mask and gets vaccinated (and then still get covid, probably worse than those of us with immune systems)

2022 and we still have Trolls like you repeating history complain about mask rules.

When Mask-Wearing Rules in the 1918 Pandemic Faced Resistance (https://www.history.com/news/1918-spanish-flu-mask-wearing-resistance)

“Red Cross headquarters in San Francisco made 5,000 masks available to the public at 11:00 A.M., October 22. By noon it had none,” wrote the late historian Alfred W. Crosby in America's Forgotten Pandemic: The Influenza of 1918. “By noon the next day Red Cross headquarters had dispensed 40,000 masks. By the twenty-sixth 100,000 had been distributed in the city… In addition, San Franciscans were making thousands for themselves.”

F0rmsh1fter go back to complaining about peoples religions you don't agree with or flat earth theories. You are better at Trolling that garbage.

[Jibartik]

Bill Maher just did a piece about how Covid is fake and yet the news still tells me that there’s more people with Covid at the hospitals now than ever so I just wanna know what the fuck…. what the fuck?

We live in a clown show.

[F0rmsh1fter]

2022 and we still have Trolls like you repeating history complain about mask rules.

When Mask-Wearing Rules in the 1918 Pandemic Faced Resistance (https://www.history.com/news/1918-spanish-flu-mask-wearing-resistance)

“Red Cross headquarters in San Francisco made 5,000 masks available to the public at 11:00 A.M., October 22. By noon it had none,” wrote the late historian Alfred W. Crosby in America's Forgotten Pandemic: The Influenza of 1918. “By noon the next day Red Cross headquarters had dispensed 40,000 masks. By the twenty-sixth 100,000 had been distributed in the city… In addition, San Franciscans were making thousands for themselves.”

F0rmsh1fter go back to complaining about peoples religions you don't agree with or flat earth theories. You are better at Trolling that garbage.

The Spanish flu was during a time when we didn’t have the readily available medicines we have now, and it was also actually somewhat dangerous. If you’re not old enough to remember the pyramids being built, or actively on chemo, covid has a lower mortality rate than even influenza, which has a 99.94% chance of NOT killing you.

One of the big issues with masks is, people like you will preach about the efficacy of your mask but then claim it won’t work unless I wear one, too. How ridiculous

[Reiwa]

Imagine cnn has you that gaslighted in which you feel masks and “vaccines” are effective but yours won’t work unless everyone else wears a mask and gets vaccinated (and then still get covid, probably worse than those of us with immune systems)

Hmm a non-conservative rightoid who takes legal disclaimers on mask boxes literally.

Sounds about right. Moron.

[F0rmsh1fter]

Hmm a non-conservative rightoid who takes legal disclaimers on mask boxes literally.

Sounds about right. Moron.

The virions are too small to be stopped by masks anyway

Moran

[Reiwa]

The virions are too small to be stopped by masks anyway

Moran

By Jove man, have they got wings?

[F0rmsh1fter]

By Jove man, have they got wings?

Nah u right. You have to manually take some of yours and stick them up other peoples noses, so I guess masks aren’t needed as long as you can refrain from doing that

[Reiwa]

Nah u right. You have to manually take some of yours and stick them up other peoples noses, so I guess masks aren’t needed as long as you can refrain from doing that

Let my hot moist breath gently caress your nasal cilia with its toxic load.

[F0rmsh1fter]

M O I S T

[Reiwa]

M O I S T

Make me wear a mask or I'll poz you. 😛

[F0rmsh1fter]

Make me wear a mask or I'll poz you. 😛

I think you mean “make me wear a mask or I’ll poz you, daddy*”

[robayon]

The CDC study released today apparently suggests that the dangerous vaccine the macho men won't get ouchies for is still better than natural immunity


But apparently they did not or were unable to account for waning immunity, and that previous infection does confer some protection too


However I am sure a Youtuber knows more than a panel of Silurians at the CDC


I love you

[unsunghero]

The CDC study released today apparently suggests that the dangerous vaccine the macho men won't get ouchies for is still better than natural immunity


But apparently they did not or were unable to account for waning immunity, and that previous infection does confer some protection too


However I am sure a Youtuber knows more than a panel of Silurians at the CDC


I love you

I was working out in the community and going to the gym every day not wiping equipment down and only washing my hands after using the bathroom for a full year after getting original covid in 2020 and couldn’t seem to catch it again until I got vaxxed. Still haven’t caught it unless the tiny cough I had 3 weeks ago was omicron but it wasn’t even bad enough to feel a need to get a test and is gone now

Anecdotal, but I personally think antibodies from getting over it last a while, but how many of these are produced might be on a case by case basis and influenced by other health factors

[F0rmsh1fter]

The CDC study released today apparently suggests that the dangerous vaccine the macho men won't get ouchies for is still better than natural immunity


But apparently they did not or were unable to account for waning immunity, and that previous infection does confer some protection too


However I am sure a Youtuber knows more than a panel of Silurians at the CDC


I love you

My sister in law got vaccinated and has been extremely sick for 5 days with a case of the rona

I felt icky for 2 days, and fatigued for a couple more

Thanks, natural immunity!

[Toxigen]

aye feeling blessed my immune system keeps getting tested and is passing with flying colors

INTO THE COLON YOU GO, MOTHER RONA

[F0rmsh1fter]

I just wanna know why these conspiracy theorists fixating on the dangers of rona have never fundamentally changed their lives over other things that have confirmed higher mortality rates. Like influenza, or streets named Martin Luther King blvd

[BlackBellamy]

https://www.science.org/content/article/israel-reports-link-between-rare-cases-heart-inflammation-and-covid-19-vaccination
https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/uk-now-reports-myocarditis-stratified

summary: If you are a male aged 12 to 30 and receive an mRNA vaccine, your chances of having myocarditis are roughly 1 in 3000 to 6000.

this isn't some antivax prop, it's science.org and the uk official data

would you advise your 18 year old son in the prime of his life and health to take a vaccine which has a 1 in 3-6000 chance of damaging his heart, perhaps permanently, to stave off a disease that for him personally presents very little risk?

should your son take one for the team?

you ever draw a four of a kind? that's 1 in 4164

48% of Democrat voters in that Rasmussen poll would put your son in jail for refusing to take that chance. Because we all need to get vaccinated over and over no matter what.

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/PFE:NYSE?sa=X&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwjLtqSxg7_1AhXj4uAKHVbCClQQ3ecFegQIGxAe&window=5Y

[Gustoo]

What is myocarditis risk from coronavirus itself?

Not that I even know what myocarditis is

And no I wouldn’t. I would laugh.

[unsunghero]

https://www.science.org/content/article/israel-reports-link-between-rare-cases-heart-inflammation-and-covid-19-vaccination
https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/uk-now-reports-myocarditis-stratified

summary: If you are a male aged 12 to 30 and receive an mRNA vaccine, your chances of having myocarditis are roughly 1 in 3000 to 6000.

this isn't some antivax prop, it's science.org and the uk official data

would you advise your 18 year old son in the prime of his life and health to take a vaccine which has a 1 in 3-6000 chance of damaging his heart, perhaps permanently, to stave off a disease that for him personally presents very little risk?

should your son take one for the team?

you ever draw a four of a kind? that's 1 in 4164

48% of Democrat voters in that Rasmussen poll would put your son in jail for refusing to take that chance. Because we all need to get vaccinated over and over no matter what.

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/PFE:NYSE?sa=X&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwjLtqSxg7_1AhXj4uAKHVbCClQQ3ecFegQIGxAe&window=5Y

The thing that irks me is that as a medical professional, even if you got the ratio of side effects wrong, let’s say you said the rate of myocarditis is 1 in 60,000, you could still have your medical license threatened and be possibly be de-platformed from social media for creating vaccine hesitancy

That means people do not really have informed consent, if the very real concern for misinformation has made any discussion of side effects impossible

[unsunghero]

What is myocarditis risk from coronavirus itself?

Not that I even know what myocarditis is

And no I wouldn’t. I would laugh.

Covid can damage the heart as well

Myocarditis I believe is inflammation of the heart. It can be life threatening. It supposedly also can cause permanent damage but also may not have lasting damage from what I heard in passing

[BlackBellamy]

That means people do not really have informed consent, if the very real concern for misinformation has made any discussion of side effects impossible

This is the worst thing about it.

I understand it. People are sheep. If you start putting out info that the vaccine is causing issues it will cause massive hesitancy. Even if that info is true.

So it was suppressed. I don't think it was a global conspiracy, it was independent actors with the same idea. Like Fauci who intentionally downplayed concerns and started calling people 'fringe'. It's right there in his emails. He took a respected and practicing virologist and smeared him on purpose to improve vaccine uptake. He actually wrote let's smear this guy. If you search there's an overwhelming narrative by respected medical professionals and scientist who are genuinely afraid for their livelihoods for even questioning the dogma, no matter how thorough their methods.

Understanding why doesn't make it right.

I'm not pro or against vaccines, I'm pro effective and safe methods of treatment given the information available. I'm pro safe vaccines and anti unsafe ones. I have some idiot on the news channel telling me how safe it is and she's just repeating words from the government and I have no data for myself. I'm a very healthy guy, I never get the flu, I eat my vegetables and my blood pressure is awesome. What's the risk to me from getting Covid? What's the risk for an adverse vaccine effect?

Importantly, what is the benefit to society as a whole from me taking that risk? Because I am willing to sacrifice for the tribe...but that much. I'm not required to be a saint or a martyr. But if I'm going to take a chance on getting a stroke, I would like some data. So I can make an informed decision.

[Jibartik]

American self immolation

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https://i.imgur.com/qdWDd2g.png

[BlackBellamy]

What is myocarditis risk from coronavirus itself?

Great question! And I would love to have a reliable answer for you but unfortunately being hospitalized for myocarditis and testing positive for covid was counted the same as getting sick with covid and then developing myocarditis later. Or not. I'm not sure because I can't find reliable data, perhaps because people are scared to post it.

[Jibartik]

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[Kich867]

Isn't Jim Jordan that guy that helped that guy diddle kids?

[Jibartik]

Isn't Jim Jordan that guy that helped that guy diddle kids?

idk but that sounds like something a qanoner would say to avoid discourse.

Fauci says there are 5 stages of the COVID pandemic—and we are still in phase 1 (https://fortune.com/2022/01/18/fauci-covid-pandemic-five-stages/)

[Reiwa]

idk but that sounds like something a qanoner would say to avoid discourse.

Fauci says there are 5 stages of the COVID pandemic—and we are still in phase 1 (https://fortune.com/2022/01/18/fauci-covid-pandemic-five-stages/)

I think Jordan was a college wrestling team and he's confusing him with Paterno/Sandusky.