Force of Will (BlackLotus/Venerate)..

[danansomehandsom]

..is actively removing members that are high DKP earners/spenders and active guild members with no real reasons given. The motivation has been to cull the out of control "inflation." Three different officers have confirmed this to me through PM.
( If you are interested in logs I can provide )

In other words, officers are simply removing people from the guild instead of outbidding them. If you show up to raids and actually bid for things, your position in the guild is in danger. Also, if you have high DKP and you're not an officer, you can bet they are deliberating the best way to deal with you quickly in biweekly officer meetings.

Please proceed with caution with this group. They seem really nice at first until they realize they can't take advantage of you at every turn without you speaking up for yourself. This is a guild for people who like to be taken advantage of and have a hard time detecting sociopathic behavior.

I really care about the p99 community. Even those that have gone to great lengths to make my time more difficult (pretty rare occurrence in game still) while playing..I would not wish the fate of Force of Will on even them.

[danansomehandsom]

You're also going to encounter the worst kind of insecure tribalism with these uhhm leaders. They are constantly telling straight up lies about larger more successful guilds to gain a foothold and to manipulate their members.

I've noticed that once enough people have swallowed these lies, they will try to get away with the same stuff they falsely accuse Kingdom, ST, Castle, etc of doing thus silently getting away with breaking the PNP policy and using the excuse of "well they did it first!"

Seriously, if you are wrapped up with this group nothing but good luck and good vibes to you. You're going to need it.

[this user was banned]

( If you are interested in logs I can provide )


Post them or fake news

[danansomehandsom]

Post them or fake news

I'm not into spreading things about individuals. I believe people can get better. I am a respectful person.

I'm not responding to this thread again, but I will send PMs to those interested in more information.

[Nirgon]

Join Safe Space, these other people are flat out cucks and filled with virtue signalers and race baiters!

[this user was banned]

I'm not into spreading things about individuals. I believe people can get better. I am a respectful person.

I'm not responding to this thread again, but I will send PMs to those interested in more information.

You claim to be not into spreading things about individuals then offer to spread things about individuals in PM.

That is spreading things about individuals.

You’ve got nothing and are bad mouthing guilds without evidence.

Fake news.

[doeda]

OP needs to seek some mental health help.

[Nirgon]

OP needs to seek some mental health help.

why? did he plow into another car while feverishly spamming some completely disingenuous bullshit claim on discord (when in reality, he simply failed to mobilize)?

[Legends702]

Good afternoon Jherin/Jheris,

I tried to reply to you on discord but it says you currently can't accept my messages. The reason why you were removed from Force of Will is due to you currently having an active application with another guild and the multiple PNP violations which you are currently serving a 2 week suspension for.

Removing high DKP earners and spenders is illogical, High DKP earners and Spenders are the heart and soul of the guild as A. They have the highest Raid Attendance and B. Would be the best geared in theory. As of removal you had 246 DKP with a 22% Raid Attendance, with the guild average DKP over 150 active raiders being over 600.

I am most disappointed that after all of this time and working with your quirkiness and letting you know that we are here for you through some emotional times you have had you still decided to lash out at multiple members and officers. I am mostly disappointed you had a few people who you could truly call your friend that you decided to turn your back on. The people who decided to stay up for hours and hours helping you power level your warrior and talk in discord to keep you company.

I hope you find peace and solitude in your next adventure.

[Nirgon]

What was one of the reasons he decided to lash out

[sourpatchkids]

The bigger injustice here is this Venerate rep having two characters at 50 with terrible names that egregiously violate the naming policy.

I'm going to go ahead and side with OP on this one because obviously this Venerate rep has shown their willingness to completely disregard the rules of the server. Why would they show any more integrity when it comes to running their guild?

[Nirgon]

Most of em aren't bad people.

They just need to abandon their circus clown guild leaders and join BIG SHINKO.

If you wanna clean this place up? Start there.

SS vs ST will be more competition, being men about it and less BS/population damage. Seriously.

[fortior]

The bigger injustice here is this Venerate rep having two characters at 50 with terrible names that egregiously violate the naming policy.

Absolutely disgusting. This will not stand. Those characters need their names changed. I hope everyone reading this thread does the needful and petitions.

[Baler]

..is actively removing members that are high DKP earners/spenders and active guild members with no real reasons given. The motivation has been to cull the out of control "inflation." Three different officers have confirmed this to me through PM.
( If you are interested in logs I can provide )

In other words, officers are simply removing people from the guild instead of outbidding them. If you show up to raids and actually bid for things, your position in the guild is in danger. Also, if you have high DKP and you're not an officer, you can bet they are deliberating the best way to deal with you quickly in biweekly officer meetings.

Please proceed with caution with this group. They seem really nice at first until they realize they can't take advantage of you at every turn without you speaking up for yourself. This is a guild for people who like to be taken advantage of and have a hard time detecting sociopathic behavior.

I really care about the p99 community. Even those that have gone to great lengths to make my time more difficult (pretty rare occurrence in game still) while playing..I would not wish the fate of Force of Will on even them.

Got proof? Logs, Screenshots, video?

[sourpatchkids]

Absolutely disgusting. This will not stand. Those characters need their names changed. I hope everyone reading this thread does the needful and petitions.

Yeah, idk about you, but I'm not sure how I'm going to sleep tonight knowing that this blatant affront to the hard work and dedication of the devs and staff, let alone my own sense of cognitive balance, has stood for this long.

[Graahle]

Good afternoon Jherin/Jheris,

I tried to reply to you on discord but it says you currently can't accept my messages. The reason why you were removed from Force of Will is due to you currently having an active application with another guild and the multiple PNP violations which you are currently serving a 2 week suspension for.

Removing high DKP earners and spenders is illogical, High DKP earners and Spenders are the heart and soul of the guild as A. They have the highest Raid Attendance and B. Would be the best geared in theory. As of removal you had 246 DKP with a 22% Raid Attendance, with the guild average DKP over 150 active raiders being over 600.

I am most disappointed that after all of this time and working with your quirkiness and letting you know that we are here for you through some emotional times you have had you still decided to lash out at multiple members and officers. I am mostly disappointed you had a few people who you could truly call your friend that you decided to turn your back on. The people who decided to stay up for hours and hours helping you power level your warrior and talk in discord to keep you company.

I hope you find peace and solitude in your next adventure.

Yet another P99 psychopath btfo'd lol. Good post.

[fortior]

Yeah, idk about you, but I'm not sure how I'm going to sleep tonight knowing that this blatant affront to the hard work and dedication of the devs and staff, let alone my own sense of cognitive balance, has stood for this long.

I'm really angry and upset right now.

[Scalem]

Boring FoW drama people should post the actual good and real drama involving officers.

[Baler]

OP said he had proof and has yet to prove anything.

What is this madness! someone explain like i'm five.

[Graahle]

Man can we go back to the old IB vs. TMO level of RnF? Shit is softer than wet tissue paper now.

[Baler]

Man can we go back to the old IB vs. TMO level of RnF? Shit is softer than wet tissue paper now.

I would bet that half of greens population doesn't even know who the Bastards or TMO is.

[Baler]

You know, despite the bastards being the original seal team, but with better people.

And TMO buying characters with plat to park at raid zone entrances.

[Graahle]

So many amazing threads. It didn’t matter what you posted here, you were catching ALL the smoke and it all devolved into a TNO/IB thread lmao

[Baler]

So many amazing threads. It didn’t matter what you posted here, you were catching ALL the smoke and it all devolved into a TNO/IB thread lmao

That was a Great era for the forums.
Just like NSFW in RnF.

It was something that modern day can't handle. People would be QQing over the most stupid shit if that era was re-create now-a-days.

[Nirgon]

Fun fact, thread tags were one of the first things the cucks here complained about and ruined.

Thread. Tags.

[Baler]

Fun fact, thread tags were one of the first things the cucks here complained about and ruined.

Thread. Tags.

I find it relevant that there was an old wood/stone theme for the forums that rogean scrapped.

If we REALLY want to go old school P99 forums.

[Nirgon]

Project Project 1999

[fortior]

bring back angelfire forums

[JayDee]

I wonder what leisure suit larry the p99 streamer has to say about this

[Naethyn]

For reference:

https://imgur.com/OFtgkgM.jpg
https://imgur.com/lfj5R3N.jpg

[Shinko]

Join safe space we wipe to chardok royals and island 2 in sky



But kill Dragons no one else has....

[Bardp1999]

I grouped with Shinko

[danansomehandsom]

Yet another P99 psychopath btfo'd lol. Good post.

I know I said I wouldn't respond to this again, but I must this once. You have it exactly right. He and his little psychopath 2 friends have been spreading rumors about me since the beginning because I refused to be abused by them publicly in guild VC and /gu.

I do have the logs and screenshots, I will share the content if people keeping being dramatic about it. I will not share the names, but I will share every abusive word and every lie that I was subjected to in full happily if these attempted smears don't stop.

The reason I was applying to another guild is I can't take the pettiness and control-freak mentally ill leadership. I'm 'glad' you all had someone to point to (me) and suggest at least youre not *that* bad off.
Now you're going to have to find out what it's like.

Legendary, you have a real problem and you seem to think this Everquest game is a way for you to explore your total lack of empathy. You are wrong. It is catching up with you. I don't want to hear from you again. You are dangerous, you are poisonous. I blocked you on every application for a damn good reason. Leave me alone. Good luck with your <Stasi> guild.

I am completely unsurprised at this last-ditch effort to smear my reputation publicly. It will not work.

[danansomehandsom]

If FoW really intended to remove my for all of the reasons listed I would have been told. I was only told that I was removed because I started the application process with another guild.

I know exactly why they removed me. I have outlined it pretty well. Legendary and the other officers seek to gut the guild and claim everything in the guild banks. It's not hard to figure that out. They've been acting this way since before the merge and now they're doubling down their efforts (lowering DKP rewards and increasing DKP minimum bids).

It's really clear to me they intend to limp along using as much free labor as they can while claiming as much of the rare loot they can get (with almost every officer having literally thousands compared the average member's couple hundred) until the entire pyramid scheme implodes.
I have not been the first member to be removed for bidding against an officer. I wont be the last.

It's truly the most psychopathic thing I have seen on this game to date... but you see, everyone ...
I'm the quirky one.

[danansomehandsom]

One last thing..
Legendary, you really know nothing besides spite do you?
For the record, I never said that I was a high DKP earner. I never said I had high RA. What I said was yall are removing people for this reason, and it's true. You can tell me how illogical it is, but we've all figured out your plans by now.
I was actually referring to my two friends that this has happened to before. I will not mention their names (again. that is extremely disrespectful), but you probably will in order to cover your own ass.

Be warned: if you are a <Force of Will> tagged character that is not an officer or very personally close with at least 2 officers you too will be removed for bidding against officers and for regularly doing exactly what your told by leadership when it results in unsavory outcomes. Leadership suggested I apply somewhere else. I started to apply somewhere else and then was instantly removed.

The real problem is you all are mad and want to get revenge. The real problem is you only reward a select few with your backwards guild policy and those that find ways around the intended gatekeeping of loot are dealt with swiftly.

You further implicating yourself here is all I can really ask for. Go on Legendary, let's hear what else you have to say.

[Mickets]

Everyone is asking you for proof and instead of posting proof we get paragraphs of text with no proof.

[danansomehandsom]

Everyone is asking you for proof and instead of posting proof we get paragraphs of text with no proof.

have you sent me a PM, degen?

[danansomehandsom]

Everyone is asking you for proof and instead of posting proof we get paragraphs of text with no proof.

I understand the complaint here is you don't like to read?
My inbox is open. If you really want copy/pastes listen to my instructions on how to get them.

[Mickets]

Absolutely no one on this planet cares enough about this to go through that extra hassle.

[danansomehandsom]

Absolutely no one on this planet cares enough about this to go through that extra hassle.

You should app to FoW
You'll fit right in
;)

[Tilien]

Name and shame in thread or move to resolved.

[Boptop]

We demand it.

[Scalem]

Join safe space we wipe to chardok royals and island 2 in sky



But kill Dragons no one else has....

Safe space does have more warrior epics then FoW.

[Albanwr]

As a FoW member I can safely say that the OP is a fucking idiot. Unless he posts some sort of proof(which he doesn't have) he should be ridiculed.

Just drop it, dude. You applied to another guild, why should you not be removed for that? You should have left before applying in any case.

[danansomehandsom]

Rest assured. It's going out to individuals in PMs.

[Ripqozko]

this thread sucks, hope that helps.

[Bardp1999]

Lets all grief OP off the server and make him re roll

[danansomehandsom]

Lets all grief OP off the server and make him re roll

I mean that *was* Legendary's intent. Why don't you?

[Albanwr]

Legendary's intent was to remove you from the guild because you applied to another guild. Unless you have proof otherwise, you should post it instead of asking for people to PM you. But nah, lets make a circus of my bad behavior.

[billcrystals]

When in the history of shitty internet forum threads has "PM me for proof" ever not made the person look like a complete idiot lol. Just post the screenshots you have, otherwise nobody believes you. You are not PMing anyone lol.

[Zwieback]

Legendary is an asshole.

[Nirgon]

Legendary is an asshole.

Is that one of the guys who complained about us holding Tranix then put a flopped monk private stream there and shared a torpor shaman to solo it in Kunark?

[Ultragamma]

https://imgur.com/a/GBQMmQy

[Ultragamma]

wrong pic im trying to delete

[Scalem]

Who cares about pixel drama when the real drama is officers in FoW being married to other people irl but cybering with each other in game. That’s the real fun stuff.

[Ultragamma]

how do i delete post fuck

[Ultragamma]

pls dont ban

[Ultragamma]

trying to get it taken off imgur dear god what the fuck

[Stigion]

I deleted the picture, why the fuck do you have that even on imgur.

May god have mercy on your soul.

[Boptop]

Could we get a vivid written description of whatever it was?

[hannahgrams]

ill draw a recreation i saw it

[billcrystals]

"How do I delete post" lmao

[hannahgrams]

Could we get a vivid written description of whatever it was?

https://i.imgur.com/w2dvHsz.png

my artistic rendition from memory

[fortior]

lol

[Tunabros]

Force of Will has lots of nice people

too bad there's a few bad eggs in there

[Videri]

Looks to me like they just kicked out one of their bad eggs.

It's not fun to kick people out of your guild, but there are times when you have to do it.

I wish the best to all guild officers. Running a guild takes a lot of time, thought, and effort. I also wish the best for all people who get kicked out of a guild, and hopefully they find a suitable new home. Guilds do talk to each other, however, so players should take great care with their reputation.

[Kohedron]

who knew snaggletooths would fuck each other over in order to collect 50 year old goblin sim pixels

[YendorLootmonkey]

Could we get a vivid written description of whatever it was?

I happened to catch it before it got moderated, although I wish I hadn't. It was someone's scrotum dipped in glue and rolled around in sunflower seeds with a squirrel latched onto it.

[Boptop]

Jesus

[cannobeers3]

The whole 'PM me for details' bit, eh? That is right up there with 'trust me' and 'people are saying' in the pantheon of problematic information spreading.