Face Diapers Don't Do Anything

[Ennewi]

No doubt during the 1600s Dr Sanjay Gupta would be wearing a different kind of robe and busily boiling salamanders and burning women who looked at him sideways at the stake for witchcraft.

back in 1919 when men were men. They pureed the lungs of people who had died of influenza and sprayed it into the noses of healthy volunteers. Nothing happened.

[Raev]

I have heard the 'low powered' argument before regarding the Danish study. It's ridiculous. They had 6000 volunteers! Their primary problem was that COVID is so mild. And in any case, the onus is on the people who want everyone to wear masks to prove they work. Have you noticed that none of the $billions are going to such studies?

Are you suggesting that Denmark's samfundssind was some kind of gigantic faith healing? Based on your quote the US does not social distance less than Denmark.

To be honest, based on your last few posts I am beginning to wonder if you actually understand the scientific method, i.e. what makes something science vs not. You are of course in good company there! But I hope you can continue this conversation with your own words rather than merely

Reading and linking an article takes very little effort. Making a blanket statement, without including any evidence to support it, takes almost no effort at all. A generalization accounts only for what is passively observed rather than what is actively investigated. And, as with anything unspecific, it requires a disclaimer or certain concessions after the fact.

[G13]

Writing an article takes a lot of effort. Reading and linking an article takes very little effort. Making a blanket statement, without including any evidence to support it, takes almost no effort at all. A generalization accounts only for what is passively observed rather than what is actively investigated. And, as with anything unspecific, it requires a disclaimer or certain concessions after the fact.


The vast majority of Covid Infections do not occur in public places

There is a reason why there was such a high infection/death rate inside Nursing "Homes"

Not to mention the mortality rate is 0.13%


You're just a mask preacher on a street corner trying to smugly tell other people what to do. Shame on you.

[Toxigen]

"

Not to mention the mortality rate is 0.13%


Its highly likely to be FAR lower than the reported mortality rate.

Think about all the infections / cases that go completely unreported.

Couple that with the people that really died of cancer / heart attack / stroke / etc but tested positive for covid so wound up a covid death.

Real mortality rate is prob less than 0.05%

[Raev]

In March 2020, during the peak of the COVID hysteria, Fauci guessed around 0.1% (https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387).

[Ennewi]

I have heard the 'low powered' argument before regarding the Danish study. It's ridiculous.

It's no more ridiculous than taking into consideration what influenced the efficacy % of the Janssen vaccine versus the Moderna and Pfizer vaccine.

And in any case, the onus is on the people who want everyone to wear masks to prove they work.

The onus is on those who are not in agreement with the consensus. Insert the Reservoir Dogs tipping/gratuity scene here. You are Mr. Pink.

Also, in certain restaurants male patrons are still required to wear a jacket (https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-jacket-required-still-a-thing-11577373722). Other establishments have lower expectations, but ones that are still enforced—"No shoes, no shirt, no service."

Are you suggesting that Denmark's samfundssind was some kind of gigantic faith healing?

https://screenrant.com/dark-souls-praise-the-sun-memes (https://screenrant.com/dark-souls-praise-the-sun-memes-meaning-lore/)

Culture influences behavior and vice versa. Having to suddenly alter one's personal habits and family traditions is a form of culture shock. Certain parts of the world's population experienced this to a lesser extent based, in part, on their cultural norms, their national policies, and their immediate relationships. For example, those within the cystic fibrosis community were already social distancing. If a word or phrase serves to reinforce certain behaviors, that is not in the same category as faith healing. Let's not confuse secular pledges with religious practices.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penalty_(Mormonism) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penalty_(Mormonism)#:~:text=The%20gesture%20was%20 made%20by,side%20of%20the%20participant's%20body.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmations_(New_Age)

I am beginning to wonder

The end of belief.

But I hope you can continue this conversation with your own words rather than merely

I don't see another dime, so where's the motivation?

[Gravydoo II]

Thats acceptable to you? 1% would be... drum roll. 3.6 million people.

3.6 million. Is more than acceptable to you. It could be 36 million dead. You wouldnt care. As long as you can point to something else and say "but obama! benghazi! they stole 2020!" what does it matter?

Why even pretend you care?? You dont. Bad is only bad when a democrat does it.

If we got 7 billion people gobally, 1% would be 70,000,000 people. More than the number of people who died in WWII. You throw out these numbers like it makes it all go away. Thats a shitload of funerals, moving companies, hospital bills, and everything else that comes with a death in the family. That ripple is acceptable to you. Just say it..

Imagine how many families are being ripped apart now because there is always one in the bunch who says "i deserve all of what was left" and there was no will left, due to the whole dying all the sudden. That is acceptable to you. How many people are not talking to their brother or sister because mom died and they became greedy as fuck or cheated the rest of the family??

[Ennewi]

You're just a mask preacher on a street corner trying to smugly tell other people what to do. Shame on you.

'Cease this endless conflict and seek salvation in the Temple of Life! The glory of Rodcet Nife awaits you!'

[Toxigen]

Thats acceptable to you? 1% would be... drum roll. 3.6 million people.

3.6 million. Is more than acceptable to you. It could be 36 million dead. You wouldnt care. As long as you can point to something else and say "but obama! benghazi! they stole 2020!" what does it matter?

Why even pretend you care?? You dont. Bad is only bad when a democrat does it.

If we got 7 billion people gobally, 1% would be 70,000,000 million people. More than the number of people who died in WWII. You throw out these numbers like it makes it all go away. Thats a shitload of funerals, moving companies, hospital bills, and everything else that comes with a death in the family. That ripple is acceptable to you. Just say it..

Imagine how many families are being ripped apart now because there is always one in the bunch who says "i deserve all of what was left" and there was no will left, due to the whole dying all the sudden. That is acceptable to you. How many people are not talking to their brother or sister because mom died and they became greedy as fuck or cheated the rest of the family??

The world would be far better off if we lost 15-20%

Plus its just killing off the old and weak anyway.

[Pulgasari]

The world would be far better off if we lost 15-20%

Plus its just killing off the old and weak anyway.

wow

[Gravydoo II]

Now you know how nazi's were ok with it.
He talks that good shit but.. we wont be seeing any leadership from this one.
We'd be better off? Why dont you lead the way and make that sacrifice for humanity?

Remember when trump got it and had to go in the hospital for days on end and take the experimental monkey drugs??? So.. hes the weak. Got it.

[Shawk]

The world would be far better off if we lost 15-20%

Plus its just killing off the old and weak anyway.

"I'm a piece of shit human being" -Toxigen

[Shawk]

qqoKru5szCY

[Pulgasari]

"I'm a piece of shit human being" -Toxigen

i think that's called a depraved heart or soul i forget which

[Raev]

Thats acceptable to you? 1% would be... drum roll. 3.6 million people.

It's 0.1%, or 1/1000. That's 320,000 people. In fact, since we have now had two flu (COVID) seasons, Fauci's estimate was almost perfect. But regardless, every human who has ever been born will someday die of something, and from what I have read death is likely the best thing that will ever happen to anyone. Google near death experiences sometime!

The onus is on those who are not in agreement with the consensus. Insert the Reservoir Dogs tipping/gratuity scene here. You are Mr. Pink.

I am so utterly baffled by this paragraph that I have nothing further to say!

The world would be far better off if we lost 15-20% ... Plus its just killing off the old and weak anyway.

Dude, you are not helping your cause here. Yes, if 90% of humans were mysteriously Thanosed the remainder would have much less environmental pressure. Yes, COVID kills mostly old, obese, donutarian Boomers. But a little sympathy is in order! Let he who is without sin cast the first stone and all that.

[Gravydoo II]

This made me sad.

EDMONTON -- An emergency room nurse in South Dakota is speaking out in frustration after watching several COVID-19 patients die from a disease they insist isn’t real, describing her job like a “horror movie that never ends.”

In a Twitter thread that has since gone viral, Jodi Doering said she has been screamed at by patients who accuse her of using “magic medicine,” who repeatedly tell her there must be another reason why they are sick “all while gasping for air.”

“They call you names and ask why you have to wear all that ‘stuff’ because they don’t have COVID because it’s not real,” she said in the thread, published Friday.

[Shawk]

This made me sad.

EDMONTON -- An emergency room nurse in South Dakota is speaking out in frustration after watching several COVID-19 patients die from a disease they insist isn’t real, describing her job like a “horror movie that never ends.”

In a Twitter thread that has since gone viral, Jodi Doering said she has been screamed at by patients who accuse her of using “magic medicine,” who repeatedly tell her there must be another reason why they are sick “all while gasping for air.”

“They call you names and ask why you have to wear all that ‘stuff’ because they don’t have COVID because it’s not real,” she said in the thread, published Friday.

yeah i cringed hearing bill gates say "bodies in the corner" because they pretend it isn't happening to sooth themselves like they have their entire lives, they know nothing more than just plain hope/religion..

if they are wrong on this, they have been wrong on the majority of things they think are right. they rather die with that last glimmer of hope.

[Ennewi]

I am beginning to wonder

I am so utterly baffled

Progress!

[Raev]

This made me sad.

EDMONTON -- An emergency room nurse in South Dakota is speaking out in frustration after watching several COVID-19 patients die from a disease they insist isn’t real, describing her job like a “horror movie that never ends.”

In a Twitter thread that has since gone viral, Jodi Doering said she has been screamed at by patients who accuse her of using “magic medicine,” who repeatedly tell her there must be another reason why they are sick “all while gasping for air.”

“They call you names and ask why you have to wear all that ‘stuff’ because they don’t have COVID because it’s not real,” she said in the thread, published Friday.

Fake news.

https://www.wired.com/story/are-covid-patients-gasping-it-isnt-real-as-they-die/

[Byue]

So I guess the American right is where intelligence goes to die.

Face masks obviously don't work and this is why surgeons and doctors wore them before the pandemic. They don't help to prevent shit.

Seriously, can you please tell us how you daddy liked to fuck you in the ass and not send you to school in clearer terms?

Why are you so scared of wearing a mask?
It's not like you are handsome, you fat American fuck, most likely fugly just wear the god damn mask that helps you evade the facial recognition systems.

Or let's start a trend to cough in a right winger's face.
It's not very hard they already breathing down our necks in the lines up.

P.S: can you imagine thinking that capitalism is the best system in the world and that technology WILL save us but doubting the technological fix an American corporation found because you think these profit making companies are there... just to turn a profit and they can't find a fix this quick anyway. Wild.

[Shawk]

Fake news.

https://www.wired.com/story/are-covid-patients-gasping-it-isnt-real-as-they-die/

"But other nurses who work in similar settings say they’ve seen nothing of the kind."

That is literally all you have to claim this is "fake news".

"This in no way means that Doering’s account is untrue. But it provides, at minimum, some important context that was completely absent from the CNN interview and from all the media amplification that followed."

Do you know how to read?

[Gravydoo II]

Nobody said 600k people died saying "its not real!". Jesus its like they cant even imagine that one persons account could be true. Its either all true or all a lie. LOL thats so stupid. Nobody is telling the truth, unless i agree with it.

If one person did that, its true. I'm gonna go with "it happened" and you're just a pussy who rejects anything they dont like. Its not even your fault, im sure your daddy was a bitch too.

[Shawk]

"all media is bias.."

https://i.imgur.com/uJPEAt8.png

[Gravydoo II]

So the accounts of the people in the riot on jan 6th are fake news because one account differs from another. Got it. They must all be lying criminals. Oh wait, they are.

[G13]

So the accounts of the people in the riot on jan 6th are fake news because one account differs from another. Got it. They must all be lying criminals. Oh wait, they are.

Guy dressed like a shaman sat in Pelosi's chair

OMG Insurrection!

[Shawk]

Guy dressed like a shaman sat in Pelosi's chair

OMG Insurrection!

-FoxMan

[Shawk]

-FoxMan

-FauxMan

[Ennewi]

-FauxMan

-FawkesMan

[Horza]

Guy dressed like a shaman sat in Pelosi's chair

OMG Insurrection!

A woman died because she listened to Trump, you ghoul.

[Shawk]

-FawkesMan

-FawksMan

[Shawk]

A woman died because she listened to Trump, you ghoul.

And he didn't even care.

Imagine, having blood on your hand and not caring.

Oh wait, uh that didn't happen cause uh that was all like made in a studio somewhere and uh *drinks meth* "they" are coming for your children to put them in a cage and ur *slurps meth* pizza gate is real and uh *drinks own piss* nasa is fake and space isn't real

[G13]

Hilariously Triggered

[Shawk]

Hilariously Triggered

I am just happy your vocabulary is growing, bud.

We are making some serious progress here, pal.

I am very happy for you, friend.

[Ennewi]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56206004

Dr Sanjay Oak, a member of the state's Covid task force, told the BBC.

No doubt during the 1600s Dr Sanjay Gupta would be wearing a different kind of robe and busily boiling salamanders and burning women who looked at him sideways at the stake for witchcraft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanjay_Oak

Dr. Sanjay Oak is an Indian surgeon, specialised in the field of Paediatric Surgery and Laparoscopy. He was former dean of Seth G. S. Medical College and King Edward Memorial Hospital in Mumbai, Maharashtra, India and an elected Fellow of the National Academy of Medical Sciences.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanjay_Gupta

Sanjay Gupta is an American neurosurgeon, medical reporter, and writer. He serves as associate chief of the neurosurgery service at Grady Memorial Hospital in Atlanta, Georgia, associate professor of neurosurgery at the Emory University School of Medicine, and chief medical correspondent for CNN.

Mr. Samir Naga...Naga... (https://youtu.be/9ZUw8LYOQ-g)

[Ennewi]

"So are you related to that neurosurgeon guy?" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyVZFm7P0CQ)

[G13]

Dr Sanjay Oak, a member of the state's Covid task force, told the BBC.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanjay_Oak

Dr. Sanjay Oak is an Indian surgeon, specialised in the field of Paediatric Surgery and Laparoscopy. He was former dean of Seth G. S. Medical College and King Edward Memorial Hospital in Mumbai, Maharashtra, India and an elected Fellow of the National Academy of Medical Sciences.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanjay_Gupta

Sanjay Gupta is an American neurosurgeon, medical reporter, and writer. He serves as associate chief of the neurosurgery service at Grady Memorial Hospital in Atlanta, Georgia, associate professor of neurosurgery at the Emory University School of Medicine, and chief medical correspondent for CNN.

Mr. Samir Naga...Naga... (https://youtu.be/9ZUw8LYOQ-g)

Nobody watches CNN except you and Horza

[Shawk]

Nobody watches CNN except you and Horza

you followed up with something just false that doesn't really apply, to misdirect, avoid..

try to follow through with something, bud.

[Horza]

The world would be far better off if we lost 15-20%

Plus its just killing off the old and weak anyway.

This message is just a reminder the GOP is a literal death cult.

[G13]

This message is just a reminder the GOP is a literal death cult.

Margaret Sanger

[Shawk]

Margaret Sanger

ITS A RIDDLE!!!

[Ennewi]

Nobody watches CNN except you

Anthony Bourdain's Parts Unknown technically counts as CNN, so yeah, guilty.

[Horza]

Margaret Sanger

Sorry, but I don't speak conservative retard.

[G13]

Sorry, but I don't speak conservative retard.

Ennewi should be able to google it for you since you're retarded

[Pulgasari]

I think he's saying something about abortion?

[Horza]

I think he's saying something about abortion?

Sanger helped legalize contraception, Republicans are just stupid as hell.

[Pulgasari]

Sanger helped legalize contraception, Republicans are just stupid as hell.

A lot of these dumbasses don't realize trad means Catholic and overlook contraception as a moral issue.

[Shawk]

she practiced obstetrical nursing on the Lower East Side of New York City, where she witnessed the relationships between poverty, uncontrolled fertility, high rates of infant and maternal mortality, and deaths from botched illegal abortions. These observations made Sanger a feminist who believed in every woman’s right to avoid unwanted pregnancies, and she devoted herself to removing the legal barriers to publicizing the facts about contraception.

She was indicted for mailing materials advocating birth control, but the charges were dropped in 1916. Later that year she opened in Brooklyn the first birth control clinic in the United States. She was arrested and charged with maintaining a “public nuisance,” and in 1917 she served 30 days in the Queens penitentiary.

...

One of her balls are bigger than G13s entire head. Insecurity, I guess.

[Horza]

I thought they were unable to move past the events of November 3, but I guess I was a century off.

[Ennewi]

Ennewi should be able to google it for you since you're retarded

Interesting that you had zero confidence in your own ability to perform an internet search too.

[G13]

Sanger helped legalize contraception, Republicans are just stupid as hell.

We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the negro population.- Margaret Sanger

Horza approves of this message

Horza is a racist

[Shawk]

more riddles..

Much of the controversy stems from a 1939 letter in which Sanger outlined her plan to reach out to black leaders — specifically ministers — to help dispel community suspicions about the family planning clinics she was opening in the South.

“We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members,” she wrote. It was, as the Washington Post called it, an “inartfully written” sentence, but one that, in context, describes the sort of preposterous allegations she feared — not her actual mission. The irony is that it has been used to propagate those very allegations. Cruz’s letter to the director of the National Portrait Gallery, for example, quotes only the first half of the sentence.

Sanger’s stated mission was to empower women to make their own reproductive choices. She did focus her efforts on minority communities, because that was where, due to poverty and limited access to health care, women were especially vulnerable to the effects of unplanned pregnancy. As she framed it, birth control was the fundamental women’s rights issue. “Enforced motherhood,” she wrote in 1914, “is the most complete denial of a woman’s right to life and liberty.”

[Gravydoo II]

She didnt want the tucker carlsons of the day to say "Biden wants to take away your babies! Your gasoline! Your gas stations! They want it all shut down!" lolol

[G13]

more riddles..

Much of the controversy stems from a 1939 letter in which Sanger outlined her plan to reach out to black leaders — specifically ministers — to help dispel community suspicions about the family planning clinics she was opening in the South.

“We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members,” she wrote. It was, as the Washington Post called it, an “inartfully written” sentence, but one that, in context, describes the sort of preposterous allegations she feared — not her actual mission. The irony is that it has been used to propagate those very allegations. Cruz’s letter to the director of the National Portrait Gallery, for example, quotes only the first half of the sentence.

Sanger’s stated mission was to empower women to make their own reproductive choices. She did focus her efforts on minority communities, because that was where, due to poverty and limited access to health care, women were especially vulnerable to the effects of unplanned pregnancy. As she framed it, birth control was the fundamental women’s rights issue. “Enforced motherhood,” she wrote in 1914, “is the most complete denial of a woman’s right to life and liberty.”

Yea just "inartfully written" as they place an abortion clinic on every street corner in a brown neighborhood

17 million black babies murdered in the womb since Roe vs Wade

That's a Death Cult. Black unborn children have a right to life

Another Sanger Quote

the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective.

You can completely read your Time article you didn't bother to source in your reply for that quote

https://time.com/4081760/margaret-sanger-history-eugenics/

What an utter fail you are

[Shawk]

didn't bother to source in your reply for that quote

right, the sources you didn't post for a quote you made that i tried to find for you ?

hope you have a better day tomorrow, friend.


What an utter fail you are

[Pulgasari]

right, the sources you didn't post for a quote you made that i tried to find for you ?

hope you have a better day tomorrow, friend.

"A Better Race Through Birth Control" (https://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/webedition/app/documents/show.php?sangerDoc=306638.xml)

NYU baby!

[evogelion]

Dudes red pilled hard up in here

[Pulgasari]

Dudes red pilled hard up in here

I hope you don't mean me. I voted for Biden. :p

[Horza]

Yea just "inartfully written" as they place an abortion clinic on every street corner in a brown neighborhood

17 million black babies murdered in the womb since Roe vs Wade

That's a Death Cult. Black unborn children have a right to life

Another Sanger Quote



You can completely read your Time article you didn't bother to source in your reply for that quote

https://time.com/4081760/margaret-sanger-history-eugenics/

What an utter fail you are

I don't know why you keep quoting a long-dead racist like it's some kind of gotcha.

[Gravydoo II]

Because invent alternate time line, win. Bring up shit from 70 years ago, win. They dont actually believe in words or what they even say. They cant. To hold two opposing statements as true means they are either stupid or just saying shit to say it.

[G13]

right, the sources you didn't post for a quote you made that i tried to find for you ?

hope you have a better day tomorrow, friend.

You didn't link the source of the quote. You linked to a Time article that tried to spin it.

It's not like is a secret. She wrote it. That's not in question. Planned Parenthood even removed Sanger's name from their building in NY.

From CNN of all places: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/22/us/margaret-sanger-planned-parenthood-trnd/index.html

But your history book may not have mentioned the darker side of Sanger, like her views on eugenics, a discredited belief in improving the human race through selective breeding. Eugenics practices targeted the disabled, people of color, and poor people. Sanger died in 1966.

On Tuesday, Planned Parenthood of Greater New York (PPGNY) announced that it would be removing Sanger's name from their Manhattan Health Center.

"The removal of Margaret Sanger's name from our building is both a necessary and overdue step to reckon with our legacy and acknowledge Planned Parenthood's contributions to historical reproductive harm within communities of color," said Karen Seltzer, the chair of PPGNY's board. "Margaret Sanger's concerns and advocacy for reproductive health have been clearly documented, but so too has her racist legacy."

Hope you can learn to cope with your own failures instead of projecting

Have a great night

[unsunghero]

CDC just announced you no longer need to wear a mask outside or inside when vaccinated

I mean, this has been common sense for months since the vaccine effectiveness became common knowledge

Of course this means lots of non-vaxxers (*cough*) could be secretly intermixing with the vaxx’ed. Although if you are vaccinated, you are safe from them, so no worries

[Horza]

Of course this means lots of non-vaxxers (*cough*) could be secretly intermixing with the vaxx’ed. Although if you are vaccinated, you are safe from them, so no worries

pBFvifcZQvc

[Shawk]

You linked to a Time article that tried to spin it.


Meanwhile back to reality.. I didn't post any links or comments of my own, just 3 sentences to give context to the quote and name you riddled about.

Here is me giving context to the CNN article you posted about now..

"It's not complicated. She championed birth control and she supported racist ideas. Both of those things are true," said Merle McGee, chief equity and engagement officer at PPGNY, in a statement emailed to CNN. "This is about saying while we value the work that Margaret Sanger did, we recognize that in the process she caused harm. So we don't want to commemorate 'our heroes' in a way that doesn't reflect their actions fully, especially since women of color continue to be shamed for accessing health services and for supporting our organization,"

[G13]

Meanwhile back to reality.. I didn't post any links or comments of my own, just 3 sentences to give context to the quote and name you riddled about.

Here is me giving context to the CNN article you posted about now..

"It's not complicated. She championed birth control and she supported racist ideas. Both of those things are true," said Merle McGee, chief equity and engagement officer at PPGNY, in a statement emailed to CNN. "This is about saying while we value the work that Margaret Sanger did, we recognize that in the process she caused harm. So we don't want to commemorate 'our heroes' in a way that doesn't reflect their actions fully, especially since women of color continue to be shamed for accessing health services and for supporting our organization,"

PPH said her "hero" had a racist legacy

Even Horza called her a racist

I don't understand why you are embarrassing yourself so badly trying to defend the woman. It's painful to watch.

[Byue]

right wingers like two things; lemons, and parties.

[Gravydoo II]

Doesnt matter what you say. They will always say "but theys a racist" meanwhile, their hero had to pay fines for denying housing to black people. Racism. Like that happened within the past 50 years instead of 100 years. Oh but democrats are all soy boys and lesbians, so they want to kill all the babies. At the same time, democrats are antifa super soldier terrorists that want to take over the world. We will take your kids and train them up into the next generation of antifa. =]

they hero worship actual racists, some how their party draws all the racist organizations to it, andrew jackson is the personal hero of their hero.

[Horza]

PPH said her "hero" had a racist legacy

Even Horza called her a racist

I don't understand why you are embarrassing yourself so badly trying to defend the woman. It's painful to watch.

I think about all white people born before the mid-twentieth century were racist hth

[HalflingSpergand]

There are group of people that are slaves they will horde together to intimidate others to be slaves. But they are weak so they must come up with loop holes to satiate their horde mentality like it's ok to not wear a mask if you're vaccinated. That way they can pretend everything is ok daddy is in control and everyone that is unmasked is vaccinated. But they know the truth, they are just cucks and most people aren't getting vaccinated

[Gravydoo II]

There are group of people that are slaves they will horde together to intimidate others to be slaves. But they are weak so they must come up with loop holes to satiate their horde mentality like it's ok to not wear a mask if you're vaccinated. That way they can pretend everything is ok daddy is in control and everyone that is unmasked is vaccinated. But they know the truth, they are just cucks and most people aren't getting vaccinated

Look he tried. Its sad, but he tried. I like how he imitates how a person of average intelligence would talk, but then puts in stupid words. Horde mentality. (i think you mean herd mentality.)

[HalflingSpergand]

NOPE

[Jibartik]

Bill Maher just passed from his covid infection and he was vaccinated

[G13]

NOPE

Gravy embarrassing himself again

FPZYAg-40N4

[GinnasP99]

Ejacalate

[Ennewi]

https://youtu.be/0T3vFCO1b3Y

[G13]

https://youtu.be/0T3vFCO1b3Y

Considering what we know now (where the vast majority of infections occur) that was the worst possible advice

Then again, that's what you get for taking medical advice from a celebrity

[Shawk]

PPH said her "hero" had a racist legacy

Even Horza called her a racist

I don't understand why you are embarrassing yourself so badly trying to defend the woman. It's painful to watch.

You had to reeeeeach all the way back to 1917.. And no one has agreed or disagreed, I simply stated your context for you.

Keep reaching though, bud.

Try to have yourself a better day, friend.

[Ennewi]

Considering what we know now (where the vast majority of infections occur) that was the worst possible advice

"So stay home and don't see anyone." When outside "don't socialize too close".

If that's the worst possible advice than there must be scientific articles out there that say as much. Meanwhile, even the religious were listening to the scientific community...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_on_Hajj

Historical cancellations of Hajj
Hajj (pilgrimage) has been cancelled 40 times through the history of Islam due to disease outbreaks, political disagreements, and battles.[16][17] In 930-940 CE (318-328 AH), Hajj was canceled due to the Qarmatian attack, which led to the murder of 30,000 pilgrims and the looting of the Black Stone.[18][19] In 1831, Hajj was suspended after the arrival of Indian pilgrims in Mecca led to the outbreak of a new plague, which is claimed to have killed more than half of the pilgrims in Mecca.[20] The first outbreak of cholera in Mecca occurred in 1846, killing more than 15,000 and causing a citywide plague lasting until 1850. A second outbreak of cholera happened in 1858, leading to pilgrims being quarantined inside Hajj camps in Egypt.[21][22]

Participant Selection
On 23 June 2020, Saudi Arabia announced Hajj would be held for a limited number of pilgrims who resided within the country due to the high risk of COVID-19.[25][26] The Saudi Ministry of Hajj and Umrah imposed restrictions to the type of pilgrims who can attend Hajj in 2020, only healthy Saudi residents between the ages of 20 and 50 with no COVID-19 symptoms were allowed to participate.[27][28][29] Participants had to first apply online, and preference was given to those who had not attended in the past.[30] Pilgrims were chosen from the COVID-19 recovery database, 70% of them were non-Saudi residents.[31]

Only ten thousand pilgrims were expected, as opposed to over two million in previous years.[32]

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/09/studies-trace-covid-19-spread-international-flights

Seat proximity and increased risk

...

Sitting near the ill passenger was strongly tied to increased infection risk. Eleven of the 12 infected passengers sitting one or two seats away (92%) tested positive for COVID-19, versus only 1 (13%) more than two seats away (risk ratio, 7.3).

It seems like it would be hard to take a flight or make a pilgrimage from home, on the couch. Maybe with enough g13 in one's system though...

Then again, that's what you get for taking medical advice from a celebrity

For once we agree...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/52408918

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/vaginal-steaming-burn-gynaecology-prolapsed-vagina-gwyneth-paltrow-a9047191.html

...though people ought to be able to use their celebrity inasmuch as they are used by the entertainment industry, just not with impunity.

[G13]

"So stay home and don't see anyone." When outside "don't socialize too close".

If that's the worst possible advice than there must be scientific articles out there that say as much. Meanwhile, even the religious were listening to the scientific community...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_on_Hajj

The CDC has been saying for months infection rates within the home were very high. Where have you been?

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6944e1.htm?s_cid=mm6944e1_w

This is one the reasons why there were so many nursing home deaths in blue states. By transferring infected people into them on purpose, Blue State Governors basically poured gasoline into the building and lit a match

[Ennewi]

The CDC has been saying for months infection rates within the home were very high. Where have you been?

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6944e1.htm?s_cid=mm6944e1_w

This is one the reasons why there were so many nursing home deaths in blue states. By transferring infected people into them on purpose, Blue State Governors basically poured gasoline into the building and lit a match

Larry David wasn't speaking to old people but on their behalf; he mentioned them directly, not excluding himself, as being particularly vulnerable.

However, this is from your own link...

What are the implications for public health practice?

Household transmission of SARS-CoV-2 is common and occurs early after illness onset. Persons should self-isolate immediately at the onset of COVID-like symptoms, at the time of testing as a result of a high risk exposure, or at time of a positive test result, whichever comes first. All household members, including the index case, should wear masks within shared spaces in the household.

It is not a question of families being in the same household, but their habits within the rooms and heavily trafficked areas, such as door/hallways. This ties in with the point made earlier about public spaces and maintaining one's distance, both being influenced by personal habits and culture.

Improved understanding of transmission of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), within households could aid control measures.

persons should self-isolate immediately at the onset of COVID-like symptoms, at the time of testing as a result of a high risk exposure, or at the time of a positive test result, whichever comes first. Concurrent to isolation, all members of the household should wear a mask when in shared spaces in the household.§

Because prompt isolation of persons with COVID-19 can reduce household transmission, persons who suspect that they might have COVID-19 should isolate, stay at home, and use a separate bedroom and bathroom if feasible.

Concurrently, all household members, including the index patient, should start wearing a mask in the home, particularly in shared spaces where appropriate distancing is not possible.

Parents Eat Every Meal With Daughter Sitting in Hallway While Self-Quarantining (https://youtu.be/qlEREv7GCs0)

And to add onto the point the CDC was making...

https://www.pnas.org/content/117/50/31706

We found the relationship between livestock plants and COVID-19 transmission to be most pronounced among the largest plants, whose presence in a county is associated with a 35% higher COVID-19 case rate relative to the average coefficient for livestock plants shown in Table 1. Small and medium-sized plants were generally not found to have significant relationships with local COVID-19 transmission, suggesting that the scale of production is an important variable for industry leaders and policymakers to consider.


References

...

Wang Y, Tian H, Zhang L, et al. Reduction of secondary transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in households by face mask use, disinfection and social distancing: a cohort study in Beijing, China. BMJ Glob Health 2020;5:e002794.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proceedings_of_the_National_Academy_of_Sciences_of _the_United_States_of_America

Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America (often abbreviated PNAS or PNAS USA) is a peer-reviewed multidisciplinary scientific journal. It is the official journal of the National Academy of Sciences, published since 1915, and publishes original research, scientific reviews, commentaries, and letters. According to Journal Citation Reports, the journal has a 2019 impact factor of 9.412.[1] PNAS is the second most cited scientific journal, with more than 1.9 million cumulative citations from 2008 to 2018.[2] In the mass media, PNAS has been described variously as "prestigious",[3][4] "sedate",[5] "renowned",[6] and "high impact".[7]

[Ennewi]

But to answer your question...

The CDC has been saying for months infection rates within the home were very high. Where have you been?

At home. And wouldn't you know it, not infected.

"So stay home and don't see anyone." When outside "don't socialize too close".

If that's the worst possible advice than there must be scientific articles out there that say as much.

[Ennewi]

"The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall." Mitch Hedberg

[G13]

Larry David wasn't speaking to old people but on their behalf; he mentioned them directly, not excluding himself, as being particularly vulnerable.

However, this is from your own link...



It is not a question of families being in the same household, but their habits within the rooms and heavily trafficked areas, such as door/hallways. This ties in with the point made earlier about public spaces and maintaining one's distance, both being influenced by personal habits and culture.









Parents Eat Every Meal With Daughter Sitting in Hallway While Self-Quarantining (https://youtu.be/qlEREv7GCs0)

And to add onto the point the CDC was making...

https://www.pnas.org/content/117/50/31706





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proceedings_of_the_National_Academy_of_Sciences_of _the_United_States_of_America

Not even blue state politicians were cruel enough to attempt a mask mandate inside the home. That's the point. You're so fixated on pretending that masks do anything (especially for healthy people with healthy immune systems) their isn't a civil or constitutional right you are afraid to breach

Also, good luck enforcing something like that. You would need a Police State with jack booted thugs kicking down doors making sure everyone was wearing their mask

Secondly, in order to justify something like that in your police state, you would need irrefutable proof, scientifically, that surgical and cloth masks prevent viral transmission which you none of your wikipedia links have yet to provide

It's like claiming a surgeon who knowingly has Covid or some other virus is perfectly fine to perform an operation. After all he would be wearing a surgical mask. I'm just amazed at how much effort you put into googling shit to not only look like a retard, but a hardcore Fascist

[Shawk]

"The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall." Mitch Hedberg

[Ennewi]

Not even blue state politicians were cruel enough to attempt a mask mandate inside the home.

https://www.wxyz.com/news/militia-kidnapping-plot/two-suspects-in-alleged-kidnapping-plot-targeting-governor-whitmer-inside-michigan-capitol (https://www.wxyz.com/news/militia-kidnapping-plot/photo-shows-two-suspects-in-alleged-kidnapping-plot-targeting-governor-whitmer-inside-michigan-capitol)

You're so fixated on pretending that masks do anything (especially for healthy people with healthy immune systems) their isn't a civil or constitutional right you are afraid to breach

The evidence you provided did not support your claims and even contradicted other claims that you've made.

Also, good luck enforcing something like that. You would need a Police State with jack booted thugs kicking down doors making sure everyone was wearing their mask

Secondly, in order to justify something like that in your police state, you would need irrefutable proof, scientifically, that surgical and cloth masks prevent viral transmission which you none of your wikipedia links have yet to provide

Who said anything about police enforcement?

https://www.firerescue1.com/coronavirus-covid-19/articles/firefighters-and-masks-survey-highlights-division-within-the-ranks-KtlwtylREyUBB6YC/

3. MOST FIREFIGHTERS DON’T WANT TO BE MASK-USAGE ENFORCERS TO THE PUBLIC.
One of the enduring controversies of the COVID-19 pandemic is the role of public safety personnel to enforce face mask mandates in public spaces and businesses.

Approximately 38% of firefighter respondents agreed with the statement, “As a public safety official, I need to ask citizens to wear masks in areas where masks are mandated.”

Chief Bashoor agreed with the lack of enthusiasm for severing in an enforcement role: “No more than we enforce other expectations should we be required to enforce this. I believe we do much better setting examples of professionalism than attempting to force others to comply with a mandate we are not responsible (or have the authority) to enforce. Regardless, our mantra should always be about ‘doing the right thing.’ In the interest of the greater good, that should include demonstrating our support of wearing masks while we’re in public or areas with direct interaction.”

It's like claiming a surgeon who knowingly has Covid or some other virus is perfectly fine to perform an operation. After all he would be wearing a surgical mask.

Performing surgeries in an operating room ≠ sitting on the couch at home watching television.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKuAl1QvuI8

I'm just amazed at how much effort you put into googling shit to not only look like a retard, but a hardcore Fascist

https://medium.com/dose/what-does-it-really-mean-to-call-someone-fascist (https://medium.com/dose/what-does-it-really-mean-to-call-someone-fascist-6dbbbe8e4865)

Most of us are not using the word correctly. “Fascist” isn’t just a meaner way to say “authoritarian”—it refers to a specific political and economic movement in the first half of the 20th century.

They wanted to remake society from the ground up—a fact that distinguishes fascism from garden-variety authoritarianism, which tends to reinforce the status quo.

[Toxigen]

So glad I don't live in a shithole lib state.

Been maskless for almost half a year now.

[Patriam1066]

I was in Florida this weekend helping my son move / trying out his boat (Clearwater st Pete area)

No one had a mask on and I’d love to talk shit about that, but I had a great time getting shitfaced on a sandbar with my wife / son & daughter in law. I’m pretty shocked how much I enjoyed Tampa and the surrounding area

[Pulgasari]

https://medium.com/dose/what-does-it-really-mean-to-call-someone-fascist (https://medium.com/dose/what-does-it-really-mean-to-call-someone-fascist-6dbbbe8e4865)


Most of us are not using the word correctly. “Fascist” isn’t just a meaner way to say “authoritarian”—it refers to a specific political and economic movement in the first half of the 20th century.

They wanted to remake society from the ground up—a fact that distinguishes fascism from garden-variety authoritarianism, which tends to reinforce the status quo.

This is correct. Fascism and Communism are keenly interested in using the state to forge a New Man. Not very Christian!!

[Ennewi]

So glad I don't live in a shithole lib state.

Been maskless for almost half a year now.

I was in Florida this weekend helping my son move / trying out his boat (Clearwater st Pete area)

No one had a mask on and I’d love to talk shit about that, but I had a great time getting shitfaced on a sandbar with my wife / son & daughter in law. I’m pretty shocked how much I enjoyed Tampa and the surrounding area

https://twitter.com/i/flow/signup

[Toxigen]

I was in Florida this weekend helping my son move / trying out his boat (Clearwater st Pete area)

No one had a mask on and I’d love to talk shit about that, but I had a great time getting shitfaced on a sandbar with my wife / son & daughter in law. I’m pretty shocked how much I enjoyed Tampa and the surrounding area

Yep, I'm in St Pete can confirm no one wears masks anymore and its lovely.

What sandbar did you wind up at? We had the boat out this weekend too but we cruised down to Longboat Pass / Jewfish Key....kinda down closer to Sarasota.

[Ennewi]

https://youtu.be/8gO_-OFEcGQ

[Patriam1066]

Yep, I'm in St Pete can confirm no one wears masks anymore and its lovely.

What sandbar did you wind up at? We had the boat out this weekend too but we cruised down to Longboat Pass / Jewfish Key....kinda down closer to Sarasota.

Absolutely no idea, it was right next to john’s pass, wherever that is. My son isn’t even very familiar with the area, he was just tired of living in landlocked Dallas

It was extremely fun though and perfect weather

[Ennewi]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=117660
https://www.project1999.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=224951

[Byue]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=117660
https://www.project1999.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=224951

what are those for?
No reason to message toxigen what are you going to talk about, how the USA is the best, Canada sucks and how Hitler did nothing wrong?

[Ennewi]

I came in here for an argument. An argument is a collect series of statements to establish a definite proposition.

What they're doing isn't arguing, it's King of the Hill yepping.

[Horza]

I came in here for an argument. An argument is a collect series of statements to establish a definite proposition.

What they're doing isn't arguing, it's King of the Hill yepping.

Your join date says 2013 but you seem to be new here :p

[Toxigen]

Absolutely no idea, it was right next to john’s pass, wherever that is. My son isn’t even very familiar with the area, he was just tired of living in landlocked Dallas

It was extremely fun though and perfect weather

Oh yeah, I know right where you were at. It won't take him long to learn all the good spots. Have him check out Egmont Key sometime.

Congrats to your son on the move!

[Ennewi]

Your join date says 2013 but you seem to be new here :p

Can this be our version of Toxigen's and Patriam's conversation?

[Hubble]

Hey conservatives, Jimmy Carter is still coming for your guns. Oh wait, which democrat was gonna take away the guns? Is it all of them but they never do it? Every election it's the democrats are coming for your guns!! I'm not even affiliated with either party. But republicans are the stupidest people I've ever had to deal with.

[Patriam1066]

Oh yeah, I know right where you were at. It won't take him long to learn all the good spots. Have him check out Egmont Key sometime.

Congrats to your son on the move!

Thanks, I’ll probably visit often. The flight into Tampa is like 2 hours. I got fucked up on a floating tiki bar watching dolphins

I’ll tell him to check it out

[Byue]

Hey conservatives, Jimmy Carter is still coming for your guns. Oh wait, which democrat was gonna take away the guns? Is it all of them but they never do it? Every election it's the democrats are coming for your guns!! I'm not even affiliated with either party. But republicans are the stupidest people I've ever had to deal with.

In Canada, to defeat the left, all they have to say is, Québec and everyone starts shaking and vote in unison because Québec standing up on its own scares the living shit out of them.

[Patriam1066]

Quebec scares no one my friend you guys are quite pusillanimous

[Mblake1981]

I wonder if he is even from Canada, French Canada at that. If there are any French Canadians out there, sorry if you were caught up in this guys forum trolling.

Hes probably behind 4 VPNs, posting screen shots of his antics on some obscure Chan subforum for kicks.

[Horza]

I wonder if he is even from Canada, French Canada at that. If there are any French Canadians out there, sorry if you were caught up in this guys forum trolling.

Hes probably behind 4 VPNs, lives in some no-name country in a no-name town in a no-name part of the world. Posting screen shots of his antics on some obscure Chan subforum for kicks.

He's a Soros-funded artificial intelligence, obviously.

[Mblake1981]

He's a Soros-funded artificial intelligence, obviously.

Of course, it all makes sense. :o

[G13]

https://www.wxyz.com/news/militia-kidnapping-plot/two-suspects-in-alleged-kidnapping-plot-targeting-governor-whitmer-inside-michigan-capitol (https://www.wxyz.com/news/militia-kidnapping-plot/photo-shows-two-suspects-in-alleged-kidnapping-plot-targeting-governor-whitmer-inside-michigan-capitol)



The evidence you provided did not support your claims and even contradicted other claims that you've made.





Who said anything about police enforcement?

https://www.firerescue1.com/coronavirus-covid-19/articles/firefighters-and-masks-survey-highlights-division-within-the-ranks-KtlwtylREyUBB6YC/







Performing surgeries in an operating room ≠ sitting on the couch at home watching television.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKuAl1QvuI8



https://medium.com/dose/what-does-it-really-mean-to-call-someone-fascist (https://medium.com/dose/what-does-it-really-mean-to-call-someone-fascist-6dbbbe8e4865)

lol

You haven't provided evidence masks do anything. You're just being critical of those that know they are pointless and don't do anything to stop the spread of Covid. It was all a huge scam the entire time and we all wore the masks for nothing, other than lefties being empowered to tell people what to do and if you don't do what lefties say Grandma will die. This is proven by the fact that the left is still demanding vaccinated people wear masks. It's control symbolism.

Cases in India are going down fast

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/

Turns out Hydroxychloroquine works well in the treatment of Covid, but then that would have meant all the drug companies wouldn't be hauling in massive profits off Covid Hysteria like they are now

CDC Director just admitted on live television that they WAY over-counted Covid deaths. 3/4ths of all deaths labeled as "Covid" were someone who died from a heart attack or something and had traces of Covid. Hospitals wouldn't have received big payoffs though if they didn't say that person died from Covid. Another scam.

Texas just reported 0 Covid deaths since lifting their mask mandate

https://abc13.com/health/tx-reports-0-covid-deaths-for-the-first-time-since-march-2020/10650095/

Maybe instead of trying to spike the football next time you should become better informed and not rely on Wikipedia so much. Just trying to help.

l1UZy7SSdDI

[Patriam1066]

lol

You haven't provided evidence masks do anything. You're just being critical of those that know they are pointless and don't do anything to stop the spread of Covid. It was all a huge scam the entire time and we all wore the masks for nothing, other than lefties being empowered to tell people what to do and if you don't do what lefties say Grandma will die. This is proven by the fact that the left is still demanding vaccinated people wear masks. It's control symbolism.

Cases in India are going down fast

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/

Turns out Hydroxychloroquine works well in the treatment of Covid, but then that would have meant all the drug companies wouldn't be hauling in massive profits off Covid Hysteria like they are now

CDC Director just admitted on live television that they WAY over-counted Covid deaths. 3/4ths of all deaths labeled as "Covid" were someone who died from a heart attack or something and had traces of Covid. Hospitals wouldn't have received big payoffs though if they didn't say that person died from Covid. Another scam.

Texas just reported 0 Covid deaths since lifting their mask mandate

https://abc13.com/health/tx-reports-0-covid-deaths-for-the-first-time-since-march-2020/10650095/

Maybe instead of trying to spike the football next time you should become better informed and not rely on Wikipedia so much. Just trying to help.

l1UZy7SSdDI

Dexamethasone is cheap as fuck, they’re using that to treat covid. It isn’t a conspiracy to make money, people just didn’t know how to fight a Chinese batfucker virus

[G13]

Dexamethasone is cheap as fuck, they’re using that to treat covid. It isn’t a conspiracy to make money, people just didn’t know how to fight a Chinese batfucker virus

They knew, it was just censored and suppressed information

Welcome to Leftyville

[Byue]

Quebec scares no one my friend you guys are quite pusillanimous

is this why German called us Stormtroopers?

Also, Leo Major (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFf1UfVa8Lc&ab_channel=SimpleHistory) is probably the most bad ass soldier of WWII. Right from home baby!

So, if Quebec standing up does not scare Canada, why was the army on standby last referendum?

Do you guys need to have an opinion on everything even if you are obviously genuinely uneducated on the topic?

If we were a state, our GDP would put us 20th.
We're not that irrelevant.
30 states with lower GDP than our pussy province. Montreal would also be the 4th biggest city in the US lol.
(GDP between 14 and 20 is basically the same, too just so you are aware)

[G13]

is this why German called us Stormtroopers?

Also, Leo Major (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFf1UfVa8Lc&ab_channel=SimpleHistory) is probably the most bad ass soldier of WWII. Right from home baby!

So, if Quebec standing up does not scare Canada, why was the army on standby last referendum?

Do you guys need to have an opinion on everything even if you are obviously genuinely uneducated on the topic?

If we were a state, our GDP would put us 20th.
We're not that irrelevant.
30 states with lower GDP than our pussy province. Montreal would also be the 4th biggest city in the US lol.

I doubt China is intimidated by Black Face Trudeau

[Patriam1066]

They knew, it was just censored and suppressed information

Welcome to Leftyville

You can’t believe every ER and ICU doc in the world was in on that type of conspiracy

Doesn’t even make sense

[Patriam1066]

is this why German called us Stormtroopers?

Also, Leo Major (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFf1UfVa8Lc&ab_channel=SimpleHistory) is probably the most bad ass soldier of WWII. Right from home baby!

So, if Quebec standing up does not scare Canada, why was the army on standby last referendum?

Do you guys need to have an opinion on everything even if you are obviously genuinely uneducated on the topic?

If we were a state, our GDP would put us 20th.
We're not that irrelevant.
30 states with lower GDP than our pussy province. Montreal would also be the 4th biggest city in the US lol.
(GDP between 14 and 20 is basically the same, too just so you are aware)

Canada has an army? Learn something new every day

I thought y’all just sucked each other’s dicks and played hockey

[Shawk]

Byue upset the americans again.

[Ennewi]

You haven't provided evidence masks do anything.

So you didn't read the evidence that was provided, just like you didn't thoroughly read the evidence you yourself provided; if you had, you might not have posted it in the first place.

You're just being critical of those that know they are pointless and don't do anything to stop the spread of Covid.

I've only really been critical of your sources and claims; without credible sources, you've continued to repeat the claims, often without any variation whatsoever. If the original post had contained questionable information in favor of mask use, it would have elicited similar replies. Who was the person that first mentioned littering as being one obvious negative of (disposable) masks? Rhetorical question.

It's control symbolism.

This isn't actually a term, though at least one other person on the internet (https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/dl56pq/thought_control_symbolism/) used it so maybe it will catch on.

Cases in India are going down fast

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/

Turns out Hydroxychloroquine works well in the treatment of Covid, but then that would have meant all the drug companies wouldn't be hauling in massive profits off Covid Hysteria like they are now

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/05/17/texas-bob-hall-covid-19-vaccine/

Texas GOP state senator urged use of unproven hydroxychloroquine treatment for COVID-19. Now he's spreading doubt about vaccines.
In a period of sagging vaccination rates — particularly among staunch conservatives — state Sen. Bob Hall used his platform to promulgate debunked anti-vaccine conspiracies and push claims that have largely been eschewed by the medical community.

CDC Director just admitted on live television that they WAY over-counted Covid deaths. 3/4ths of all deaths labeled as "Covid" were someone who died from a heart attack or something and had traces of Covid. Hospitals wouldn't have received big payoffs though if they didn't say that person died from Covid. Another scam.

Source? Also, who's they? Because the CDC itself doesn't do the actual counting.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/factcheck/2021/05/06/fact-check-covid-19-deaths-dont-include-everyone-20-days (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/05/06/fact-check-covid-19-deaths-dont-include-everyone-20-days/4945808001/)

The post’s insinuation that coronavirus vaccines cause death is wrong — and so is the claim about how COVID-19 deaths are counted.

Local medical examiners, coroners and physicians decide whether COVID-19 contributed to someone’s death. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which maintains a tally of COVID-19 deaths, has guidance on how officials should fill out death certificates, but that guidance does not include a 20-day rule. False claims that the U.S. is padding coronavirus statistics have circulated since the early days of the pandemic.

The CDC gets data on COVID-19 deaths through the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), which gets its data from death certificates filed in state vital registration offices. When a local medical examiner, physician or coroner lists the coronavirus as a cause of death on a certificate, the CDC counts it as a COVID-19 death.

They knew, it was just censored and suppressed information

Source?

The CDC director did however say...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/05/16/cdc-mask-vaccinated-change/

The nation’s top public health official on Sunday defended her agency’s abrupt reversal on wide-ranging mask recommendations, saying that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had weighed new data before announcing that Americans who had been vaccinated could go without masks.

Texas just reported 0 Covid deaths since lifting their mask mandate

https://abc13.com/health/tx-reports-0-covid-deaths-for-the-first-time-since-march-2020/10650095/

Because of...

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines.html

Maybe instead of trying to spike the football next time you should become better informed and not rely on Wikipedia so much. Just trying to help.

Wikipedia...still more credible than retracted articles from sources known for promoting New Agey pseudoscience.

https://youtu.be/n5OmqA5t6lI

[Ennewi]

You can’t believe every ER and ICU doc in the world was in on that type of conspiracy

Doesn’t even make sense

Flat earthers exist so...

[booter]

g13 has the confirmed smoothest brain on p99, it is not worth your time lol

[Ennewi]

g13 has the confirmed smoothest brain on p99, it is not worth your time lol

"A mind needs boobs like a sword needs a whetstone, if it is to keep its edge."

[G13]

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/05/17/texas-bob-hall-covid-19-vaccine/

Texas GOP state senator urged use of unproven hydroxychloroquine treatment for COVID-19. Now he's spreading doubt about vaccines.
In a period of sagging vaccination rates — particularly among staunch conservatives — state Sen. Bob Hall used his platform to promulgate debunked anti-vaccine conspiracies and push claims that have largely been eschewed by the medical community.

He was right about Hydroxychloroquine. India is recommending it as treatment and cases are declining fast. So you're hand wringing wanting a billion people in India to run around with masks outside is laughable and stupid.

Healthy people with healthy immune systems don't need to be wearing a face mask outside or even in public places. That's been the point from post#1. You've spent 60 pages googling wikipedia links trying to claim otherwise. You haven't proven your case and you never will since there is no consensus.

It's irrefutable that the mask mandates are disguised Government Authoritarianism. Even after the miracle Trump Vaccines, Lefties like you don't want to give them up, even after the CDC reversed it's mask policy because Racismz! lol

Timestamp: 29:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeGCTxcIvtk

Source? Also, who's they? Because the CDC itself doesn't do the actual counting.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/factcheck/2021/05/06/fact-check-covid-19-deaths-dont-include-everyone-20-days (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/05/06/fact-check-covid-19-deaths-dont-include-everyone-20-days/4945808001/)

The post’s insinuation that coronavirus vaccines cause death is wrong — and so is the claim about how COVID-19 deaths are counted.

Local medical examiners, coroners and physicians decide whether COVID-19 contributed to someone’s death. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which maintains a tally of COVID-19 deaths, has guidance on how officials should fill out death certificates, but that guidance does not include a 20-day rule. False claims that the U.S. is padding coronavirus statistics have circulated since the early days of the pandemic.

The CDC gets data on COVID-19 deaths through the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), which gets its data from death certificates filed in state vital registration offices. When a local medical examiner, physician or coroner lists the coronavirus as a cause of death on a certificate, the CDC counts it as a COVID-19 death.

Right, that's exactly what I said. Why did you leave that part out of your reply:

3/4ths of all deaths labeled as "Covid" were someone who died from a heart attack or something and had traces of Covid. Hospitals wouldn't have received big payoffs though if they didn't say that person died from Covid. Another scam.

Take up your grievance with The CDC Director. She just basically admitted this during an interview with CNN where she says Hospitals are now pre-screening patients for Covid before treatment so if you die from a heart attack, your death will be listed as a death from a heart attack. If you have not been vaccinated but die of a heart attack, your death is listed as Covid.

It's a win-win for the scammers given the mortality rate for Covid (which is really just The Flu)

Inflate the death counts to create hysteria. Count someone who jumped off a cliff with Covid as a Covid death.

Pre screen now that the vax is out. Only count the people who jumped off a cliff to have died from Covid if they weren't vaxxed.

CDC is looking more like a bunch of lobbyists for Big Pharma. There needs to be investigation on top of the recent revelations that The CDC allowed The Teachers Union to influence and basically write policy for Mask Mandates in schools.

Timestamp:10:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7GJHUh4Nto

Source?

The CDC director did however say...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/05/16/cdc-mask-vaccinated-change/

The nation’s top public health official on Sunday defended her agency’s abrupt reversal on wide-ranging mask recommendations, saying that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had weighed new data before announcing that Americans who had been vaccinated could go without masks.



Because of...

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines.html

Big Pharma hauling in taxpayer money by the truckload. Hydroxychloroquine is much cheaper. A lot of money to be made out of inciting fear and panic for sure.

Wikipedia...still more credible than retracted articles from sources known for promoting New Agey pseudoscience.

https://youtu.be/n5OmqA5t6lI

They only retracted it because of the whining. It went against the propaganda and the narrative. Nothing about the retraction was related to cloth masks or store bought masks. My original point still stands.

[Patriam1066]

Yeah but man you can’t honestly tell me you think doctors as individuals don’t treat their patients to the best of their ability. Everyone was learning on the fly with this one, but your doctor is a human being who most likely wouldn’t let you die for profit

The powerful have always been wicked. That is the nature of seeking power. Doesn’t mean everyone else is

[Byue]

Can you imagine being a capitalist and thinking "big pharma" is out to get you because they haul profits.

Fucking wild.

[G13]

Yeah but man you can’t honestly tell me you think doctors as individuals don’t treat their patients to the best of their ability. Everyone was learning on the fly with this one, but your doctor is a human being who most likely wouldn’t let you die for profit

The powerful have always been wicked. That is the nature of seeking power. Doesn’t mean everyone else is

I'm not saying your doctor wanted you to die for profit

I'm saying Hospitals took advantage of the huge funding involved (from The Government) if they listed a fatality as having died from Covid, whether Covid was the reason or not. Free money always creates incentive. If someone has traces of Covid in their system and they fall off a bridge, Hospitals got paid a lot of money to say that person died from Covid.

This was confirmed in a report from the CDC all the way back in August

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR2-muRM3tB3uBdbTrmKwH1NdaBx6PpZo2kxotNwkUXlnbZXCwSRP2 OmqsI

Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). The number of deaths that mention one or more of the conditions indicated is shown for all deaths involving COVID-19 and by age groups. For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death. For data on deaths involving COVID-19 by time-period, jurisdiction, and other health conditions

When you take into account other factors such as obesity and old age, the death counts become even lower. This is why Florida has been such a success. They isolated their most vulnerable instead of purposely placing virus bombs into Nursing Homes like Cuomo

Can you imagine being a capitalist and thinking "big pharma" is out to get you because they haul profits.

Fucking wild.

What's happening with Big Pharma right now isn't Capitalism

Big Government removed all risk by funding everything and paying for production and distribution. Nice try though.

[unsunghero]

So you didn't read the evidence that was provided, just like you didn't thoroughly read the evidence you yourself provided; if you had, you might not have posted it in the first place.



I've only really been critical of your sources and claims; without credible sources, you've continued to repeat the claims, often without any variation whatsoever. If the original post had contained questionable information in favor of mask use, it would have elicited similar replies. Who was the person that first mentioned littering as being one obvious negative of (disposable) masks? Rhetorical question.



This isn't actually a term, though at least one other person on the internet (https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/dl56pq/thought_control_symbolism/) used it so maybe it will catch on.



https://www.texastribune.org/2021/05/17/texas-bob-hall-covid-19-vaccine/

Texas GOP state senator urged use of unproven hydroxychloroquine treatment for COVID-19. Now he's spreading doubt about vaccines.
In a period of sagging vaccination rates — particularly among staunch conservatives — state Sen. Bob Hall used his platform to promulgate debunked anti-vaccine conspiracies and push claims that have largely been eschewed by the medical community.



Source? Also, who's they? Because the CDC itself doesn't do the actual counting.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/factcheck/2021/05/06/fact-check-covid-19-deaths-dont-include-everyone-20-days (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/05/06/fact-check-covid-19-deaths-dont-include-everyone-20-days/4945808001/)

The post’s insinuation that coronavirus vaccines cause death is wrong — and so is the claim about how COVID-19 deaths are counted.

Local medical examiners, coroners and physicians decide whether COVID-19 contributed to someone’s death. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which maintains a tally of COVID-19 deaths, has guidance on how officials should fill out death certificates, but that guidance does not include a 20-day rule. False claims that the U.S. is padding coronavirus statistics have circulated since the early days of the pandemic.

The CDC gets data on COVID-19 deaths through the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), which gets its data from death certificates filed in state vital registration offices. When a local medical examiner, physician or coroner lists the coronavirus as a cause of death on a certificate, the CDC counts it as a COVID-19 death.



Source?

The CDC director did however say...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/05/16/cdc-mask-vaccinated-change/

The nation’s top public health official on Sunday defended her agency’s abrupt reversal on wide-ranging mask recommendations, saying that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had weighed new data before announcing that Americans who had been vaccinated could go without masks.



Because of...

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines.html



Wikipedia...still more credible than retracted articles from sources known for promoting New Agey pseudoscience.

https://youtu.be/n5OmqA5t6lI

In regards to the financial incentive to stamp covid diagnosis and treatment, it applied to patients with Medicare. There was a federal program that paid hospitals around $13,000 for each Medicare patient with covid, and $39,000 for treatment of covid patients with ventilators

There was speculation that this could cause billing fraud due to financial incentives. While the fact checkers could not dispute the claim of the payments as false (the payments are true), the fact checkers report there has not been billing fraud discovered

Some more info: “ Ask FactCheck weighed in April 21: "The figures cited by Jensen generally square with estimated Medicare payments for COVID-19 hospitalizations, based on average Medicare payments for patients with similar diagnoses."

Ask FactCheck reporter Angelo Fichera, who interviewed Jensen, noted, "Jensen said he did not think that hospitals were intentionally misclassifying cases for financial reasons. But that’s how his comments have been widely interpreted and paraded on social media."

Ask FactCheck's conclusion: "Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting."
(https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/)


As someone that works in healthcare, I can promise that billing fraud is rampant in this field, especially fraud of federal insurance payments. The fact it was not discovered doesn’t mean much, most likely it wasn’t even investigated

To argue the other side of the coin:

To claim that a death due to cardiac arrest being labeled a covid death is inaccurate isn’t entirely true. It’s all about causation. The most common (based on my reading) cause of death from Covid other than pulmonary issues was cardiac arrest. Now while this tended to affect obese people who already were vulnerable to cardiac arrest, in many scenarios the heart attack could have been directly caused by Covid’s effect on the body

A good example of this would be the dad of MMA fighter and legend Khabib Nurmagamenov, someone I’m a huge fan of (enough to hopefully spell his name correct from memory). Khabib’s dad was slightly overweight but not obese. He had a bad COVID infection and died from brain injuries, stroke, and cardiac arrest in one of the top hospitals in Russia getting top of the line medical care. His death was listed as due to COVID, because he wouldn’t have suffered that heart attack and stroke had COVID not been wrecking his body. So for people like him, it should still be listed as a death due to COVID

More info: https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/khabib-nurmagomedovs-father-dies-from-covid-19-complications-133129448.html

And for any khabib fans, a sad homemade video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qhT25r7OR3w

[Ennewi]

He was right about Hydroxychloroquine. India is recommending it as treatment and cases are declining fast.

Source?

https://www.indiatimes.com/news/india/hydroxychloroquine-to-ivermectin-indians-are-self-medicating-against-covid-and-it-is-dangerous-540404.html

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/pune/dr-guleria-hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin-covid-patients-7281146/

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/man-behind-brazils-search-miracle-covid-19-cures-2021-05-14/

Taking into consideration the number of conflicting accounts, its effectiveness remains inconclusive at best.

Healthy people with healthy immune systems don't need to be wearing a face mask outside or even in public places.

https://www.dw.com/en/life-behind-a-mask-chinas-cities-still-choking-on-smog/a-42199104

You've spent 60 pages googling wikipedia links trying to claim otherwise. You haven't proven your case and you never will since there is no consensus.

You continue to mention Wikipedia but never those other, more official websites. At least I actually did something productive within those 60 pages, more productive than repeating the same phrase over and over as if doing so would make it any more true.

Right, that's exactly what I said. Why did you leave that part out of your reply:

Questionable, isn't it? When someone purposefully leaves out a crucial detail to make you seem uninformed. Even worse, when they claim you said something that you very clearly did not.

Hospitals wouldn't have received big payoffs though if they didn't say that person died from Covid. Another scam.

https://fox11online.com/news/fox-11-investigates/fact-check-how-are-covid-19-deaths-counted (https://fox11online.com/news/fox-11-investigates/fact-check-how-are-covid-19-deaths-counted-do-hospitals-get-money-for-covid-19-deaths)

"Providers can get additional reimbursement through Medicare. That was a component of the CARES Act that was passed by Congress and signed by the president as a partial offset to all the extra costs that providers are incurring," Potter said.

People also claim death numbers are being inflated so hospitals get more money. Potter says that’s not true for two reasons.

The first, Potter says that 20% add-on from the CARES Act is only for services provided, not deaths.

In actual dollar amounts, Potter says the 20% payment averages out to be around $35,000 per patient on a ventilator.

Potter says the second reason it's not true is because of checks and balances.

“If somebody knowingly alters the medical record, which would then create the bill I think is being alleged here... That would be caught through audit. And if that occurred, you could be prosecuted -- there’s huge penalties," Potter said.

“I know that there’s a certain group of people out there who seem to think that we’re taking directions from the CDC, or physicians or certain health departments or something like this to inflate the numbers which is absolutely, completely false," Klaeser said.

"There's no pressure on the physician to say COVID, we’re going to get paid more if you have COVID," Dr. Mead said.

It's a win-win for the scammers given the mortality rate for Covid (which is really just The Flu)

https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/no-covid-19-is-not-the-flu.html

There’s a refrain that “COVID-19 is just the flu,” which is not at all accurate.

Andrew Pekosz, PhD, says it can be hard to differentiate the two based on symptoms alone. But large numbers of susceptible people and increased rates of severe disease and death set COVID-19 apart from seasonal influenza.

Pekosz, a leading virologist who works on both diseases, breaks down key differences between COVID-19 and influenza to show why this pandemic is so critically—and catastrophically—dangerous.

What would you say to someone who insists to you that COVID-19 is “just the flu”?
Since December 2019, COVID-19 has killed more people in the U.S. than influenza has in the last five years.

Are there long-term health effects of the flu? How do they compare to increasing evidence about long-term health effects of COVID-19?

This is another area where the two viruses differ. COVID-19 survivors report many more long-term effects of the infection than influenza survivors. Lingering symptoms like weakness, shortness of breath, trouble focusing and, in some cases, kidney and heart problems are much more common after COVID-19 than after influenza.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid-long-haulers-long-term-effects-of-covid19

My original point still stands.

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

Quote:
Clinical scientific evidence challenges further the efficacy of facemasks to block human-to-human transmission or infectivity. A randomized controlled trial (RCT) of 246 participants (50%) symptomatic)] who were allocated to either wearing or not wearing surgical facemask, assessing viruses transmission including coronavirus . The results of this study showed that among symptomatic individuals (those with fever, cough, sore throat, runny nose ect…) there was no difference between wearing and not wearing facemask for coronavirus droplets transmission of particles of >5 µm. Among asymptomatic individuals, there was no droplets or aerosols coronavirus detected from any participant with or without the mask, suggesting that asymptomatic individuals do not transmit or infect other people. This was further supported by a study on infectivity where 445 asymptomatic individuals were exposed to asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carrier (been positive for SARS-CoV-2) using close contact (shared quarantine space) for a median of 4 to 5 days. The study found that none of the 445 individuals was infected with SARS-CoV-2 confirmed by real-time reverse transcription polymerase

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8114149/

This article has been retracted.
Retraction in: Med Hypotheses. 2021 May 12; : 110601 See also: PMC Retraction Policy

Retraction notice to “Facemasks in the COVID-19 era: A health hypothesis” [Medical Hypotheses 146 (2021) 5]
Baruch Vainshelboim
Author information Copyright and License information Disclaimer
This retracts the article "Facemasks in the COVID-19 era: A health hypothesis" in Med Hypotheses, volume 146 on page 110411.
This article has been retracted: please see Elsevier Policy on Article Withdrawal (https://www.elsevier.com/about/our-business/policies/article-withdrawal).

This article has been retracted at the request of the Editor-in-Chief.

Medical Hypotheses serves as a forum for innovative and often disruptive ideas in medicine and related biomedical sciences. However, our strict editorial policy is that we do not publish misleading or inaccurate citations to advance any hypotheses.

The Editorial Committee concluded that the author’s hypothesis is misleading on the following basis:

1. A broader review of existing scientific evidence clearly shows that approved masks with correct certification, and worn in compliance with guidelines, are an effective prevention of COVID-19 transmission.

2. The manuscript misquotes and selectively cites published papers. References #16, 17, 25 and 26 are all misquoted.

3. Table 1. Physiological and Psychological Effects of Wearing Facemask and Their Potential Health Consequences, generated by the author. All data in the table is unverified, and there are several speculative statements.

4. The author submitted that he is currently affiliated to Stanford University, and VA Palo Alto Health Care System. However, both institutions have confirmed that Dr Vainshelboim ended his connection with them in 2016.

A subsequent internal investigation by the Editor-in-Chief and the Publisher have determined that this article was externally peer reviewed but not with our customary standards of rigor prior to publication. The journal has re-designed its editorial and review workflow to ensure that this will not happen again in future.

The Editor-in-Chief and the Publisher would like to apologize to the readers of The Journal for difficulties this issue has caused.

[Ennewi]

As someone that works in healthcare, I can promise that billing fraud is rampant in this field, especially fraud of federal insurance payments. The fact it was not discovered doesn’t mean much, most likely it wasn’t even investigated

Same. Having worked in hospice care for a brief stint years ago, the whole offer/counteroffer back and forth between providers and insurance companies seemed to suggest that a certain amount of fraud was casually accepted. The other disturbing fact was that doctors had customized rubber stamps for their signatures which interns would use when sorting through piles of "consumer" documents, all later to be quickly initialed in chicken scratch by the doctors. The doctors wouldn't even look at the paperwork, just thumb through it and make the pen touch paper, eyes elsewhere.

I suppose, as with most anything else, even MMA, over time the process becomes second nature.

[cd288]

Tbh I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone get so completely rebutted and destroyed as G13 just did from that comment above. Wow....lol

[G13]

Source?

https://www.mohfw.gov.in/pdf/RevisedguidelinesforHomeIsolationofmildasymptomati cCOVID19cases.pdf?pfrom=home-coronavirus_coronavirus-drsadvice_live

3.Patients eligible for home isolation. The patient should be clinically assigned as mild/ asymptomatic case by the treating Medical Officer.

vi.The care giver and all close contacts of such cases should take Hydroxychloroquine prophylaxis as per protocol and as prescribed by the treating medical officer.
6.Treatment for patients with mild /asymptomatic disease in home isolation

vi.Consider Tab Ivermectin (200 mcg/kg once a day, to be taken empty stomach) for 3 to 5 days.

Taking into consideration the number of conflicting accounts, its effectiveness remains inconclusive at best.

I'm sure profit margins have nothing to do with it

https://www.dw.com/en/life-behind-a-mask-chinas-cities-still-choking-on-smog/a-42199104

China. The origin of the virus. Nice.

You continue to mention Wikipedia but never those other, more official websites. At least I actually did something productive within those 60 pages, more productive than repeating the same phrase over and over as if doing so would make it any more true.

You're trying to rationalize all your efforts. I get it.

Questionable, isn't it? When someone purposefully leaves out a crucial detail to make you seem uninformed. Even worse, when they claim you said something that you very clearly did not.

You even quoted what I said in your next line. I'll highlight what's important. A child can understand it.

3/4ths of all deaths labeled as "Covid" were someone who died from a heart attack or something and had traces of Covid. Hospitals wouldn't have received big payoffs though if they didn't say that person died from Covid. Another scam.

The fatality numbers have always been suspect

https://coloradosun.com/2020/05/15/colorado-coronavirus-death-certificate/

The number of coronavirus deaths in state figures topped 1,000 earlier this week, and the number stood at 1,150 deaths as of Friday afternoon. But officials with the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment revealed during a call with reporters that that number does not represent the number of people who have died due to COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.

Instead, the death figure CDPHE has been providing for weeks is more accurately described as the number of people with COVID-19 who have died — for any reason. The number of people who have died and have COVID-19 listed on their death certificate is 24% lower: 878, according to CDPHE’s latest figures.

Timestamp: 2:35:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkP1t_2u5B0

Luetkemeyer - "As long as you have COVID in your system you get to claim it as a COVID death, which means you get more money as attending physician, hospital, whatever,” Would you like to comment on that, about the perverse incentive? Is there an effort to try and do something different.”

Redfield - "I think you’re correct in that and we’ve seen this in other disease processes too"

It doesn't even stop with Hospitals

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/government-program-provides-up-to-9000-for-covid-related-funeral-costs/ar-BB1fzKta

Americans who’ve lost family members or friends from COVID-19 can now apply to get up to $9,000 from the government to reimburse them for their loved one’s funeral costs.

You're relying too much on media believing there is no agenda or narrative at play. As someone else pointed out above, there is always rampant fraud with anything that has to do with Government Funding and generally there isn't a lot of zeal to uncover it. Another example is unemployment. Billions wasted on fraud but I'm sure there is a link out there you can find that will claim otherwise.

https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/no-covid-19-is-not-the-flu.html

There’s a refrain that “COVID-19 is just the flu,” which is not at all accurate.

Andrew Pekosz, PhD, says it can be hard to differentiate the two based on symptoms alone. But large numbers of susceptible people and increased rates of severe disease and death set COVID-19 apart from seasonal influenza.

Pekosz, a leading virologist who works on both diseases, breaks down key differences between COVID-19 and influenza to show why this pandemic is so critically—and catastrophically—dangerous.

What would you say to someone who insists to you that COVID-19 is “just the flu”?
Since December 2019, COVID-19 has killed more people in the U.S. than influenza has in the last five years.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/05/10/flu-cases-historically-low-during-covid-what-expect-fall/7088318002/

Peak Flu Season was non existent this year OR they could have all been counted as Covid

This article has been retracted at the request of the Editor-in-Chief.

Politics and Censorship

[Gravydoo II]

THE ARTICLE HAS BEEN RETRACTED.
Dont you get it G13??
Retracted. You're a bentham science researcher. lol

[HalflingSpergand]

I don't believe you guys are reading this shit

[Ennewi]

I don't believe you guys are reading this shit

I've read nearly all of what I linked, but the pictures at the very bottom of the air pollution article (https://www.dw.com/en/life-behind-a-mask-chinas-cities-still-choking-on-smog/a-42199104) were more telling than any quotes or data.

[G13]

I don't believe you guys are reading this shit

Nobody commenting (except one guy) has read any of it

I'm enjoying his efforts though

Case in point:

I've read nearly all of what I linked, but the pictures at the very bottom of the air pollution article (https://www.dw.com/en/life-behind-a-mask-chinas-cities-still-choking-on-smog/a-42199104) were more telling than any quotes or data.

14571

[Ennewi]

https://www.mohfw.gov.in/pdf/RevisedguidelinesforHomeIsolationofmildasymptomati cCOVID19cases.pdf?pfrom=home-coronavirus_coronavirus-drsadvice_live

I'm sure profit margins have nothing to do with it

There are other articles and documents that advise the same, yet the data still remains inconclusive. But then, given the present circumstances, why not take it when the side effects are not as problematic as the potential effects of covid?

China. The origin of the virus. Nice.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-50258947

Five million masks are being distributed at schools in India's capital, Delhi, after pollution made the air so toxic officials were forced to declare a public health emergency.

A Supreme Court-mandated panel imposed several restrictions in the city and two neighbouring states, as air quality deteriorated to "severe" levels.

Dangerous particulate levels in the air are about 20 times the WHO maximum.

The city's schools have also been closed until at least next Tuesday.

All construction has been halted for a week and fireworks have been banned. From Monday, the city will introduce a temporary scheme so that only cars with odd or even numbered licence plates can drive on given days, in a bid to cut traffic pollution.

Delhi's Chief Minister Arvind Kejriwal said the city had been turned into a "gas chamber".

You're trying to rationalize all your efforts. I get it.

Impossible, only a rational person would get it.

You even quoted what I said in your next line. I'll highlight what's important.

That I did, but it wasn't highlighted in bold, something anyone skimming through could have easily overlooked. Who might have skimmed through? Not you anymore it seems.

So you didn't read the evidence that was provided, just like you didn't thoroughly read the evidence you yourself provided; if you had, you might not have posted it in the first place.

Even if it only applies to forum posts, hey, progress is progress.

A child can understand it.

What about a manchild?

The fatality numbers have always been suspect

https://coloradosun.com/2020/05/15/colorado-coronavirus-death-certificate/

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That article isn't readable. The website requires that visitors create an account. What are the chances that you, of all people, put in the effort to do that? Unless you're a Colorado native, it seems unlikely. But, giving the benefit of he doubt, why don't you copy/paste it here for the rest of us who have enough spam as it is already.

You're relying too much on media believing there is no agenda or narrative at play. As someone else pointed out above, there is always rampant fraud with anything that has to do with Government Funding and generally there isn't a lot of zeal to uncover it. Another example is unemployment. Billions wasted on fraud but I'm sure there is a link out there you can find that will claim otherwise.

Peak Flu Season was non existent this year OR they could have all been counted as Covid

Quoting directly from the usatoday article you linked and didn't read entirely because if you had you would have noticed...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/05/10/flu-cases-historically-low-during-covid-what-expect-fall/7088318002/

A year full of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing and staying at home to prevent coronavirus spread rendered the 2020-2021 influenza season practically nonexistent.

“If we learned enough from this COVID pandemic, maybe everybody will always wear masks if they have a runny nose … maybe businesses will allow them to stay home and not force them to come to work,” he said. “It could really make us a lot healthier.”

https://youtu.be/fEff3tl3edw

[Ennewi]

Nobody commenting (except one guy) has read any of it


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That one guy, defying statistics.

[Toxigen]

newsflash - exposing your immune system to germs keeps it strong

sorry you mask wearing pansies have shitty immune systems

[HalflingSpergand]

I'm exposed at all times

[Gravydoo II]

newsflash - exposing your immune system to germs keeps it strong

sorry you mask wearing pansies have shitty immune systems

Awwwhhhh pussy is mad.. You get mad when you see people in masks?? Makes you upset? Like a baby?? Weird how you right wingers are all about FREEDOMMMMMMMMMM unless it comes to minding your own fucking business. I'll wear a mask in your house and you wont do shit, pussy. Thats how it is. Stop being such a pussy, pussy. Dont let people control your emotions so easily, little bitch. Stop crying at the sight of a mask... makes you seem like a real bitch. Soft like a cake, pussy as fuck, really.

[HalflingSpergand]

Mmm cake

[Pulgasari]

newsflash - exposing your immune system to germs keeps it strong

Americapox (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEYh5WACqEk)

tl;dr - viruses come from animals, and novel(new) viruses are very dangerous.

Wuhan is the Alabama of China.

[G13]

There are other articles and documents that advise the same, yet the data still remains inconclusive. But then, given the present circumstances, why not take it when the side effects are not as problematic as the potential effects of covid?

Inconclusive? Look at the date when cases starting falling fast. It coincides exactly with the guidelines from The Ministry of Health in India

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/

14572

From your source:

Example:https://www.indiatimes.com/news/india/hydroxychloroquine-to-ivermectin-indians-are-self-medicating-against-covid-and-it-is-dangerous-540404.html

Hydroxychloroquine To Ivermectin, Indians Are Self-Medicating Against COVID And It Is Dangerous

Seems really scary. Except it wasn't a home remedy as "suggested" by the sensationalized Headline

https://www.mohfw.gov.in/pdf/RevisedguidelinesforHomeIsolationofmildasymptomati cCOVID19cases.pdf?pfrom=home-coronavirus_coronavirus-drsadvice_live

3.Patients eligible for home isolation. The patient should be clinically assigned as mild/ asymptomatic case by the treating Medical Officer.

vi.The care giver and all close contacts of such cases should take Hydroxychloroquine prophylaxis as per protocol and as prescribed by the treating medical officer.
6.Treatment for patients with mild /asymptomatic disease in home isolation

vi.Consider Tab Ivermectin (200 mcg/kg once a day, to be taken empty stomach) for 3 to 5 days.

What used to be considered trusted sources of information (The MSM, The CDC, ect.) have now become corrupted propaganda outlets pushing an agenda. Not "Science".

Any information that goes against the agenda is censored, suppressed or dismissed by the propagandists.

Also, I find it curious you're suddenly worried about possible side effects from a tablet when reported side effects from the vaccine have killed hundreds, if not thousands of people worldwide.

Keep in mind, all usual safety measures to develop the vaccine were waived, with full funding from the Government. What companies all have the vaccines line up for global distribution? Big Pharma.

[evogelion]

Evil sea mermaids are stealing our men and replacing our people with their fishy hybrid offspring #innsmouthincident
#boomerrumors #whybringpoliticsherestayon8chan

[Baler]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/image.php?u=119211&dateline=1467744283

what the fuck is that. O_O

[Mblake1981]

Must counteract the perversion of ponies, mermaids and pokemons.

They have ruined their own lands..

https://i.imgur.com/PBjncIC.jpg

[Baler]

I see people in stores without masks.

[Gwaihir]

Awwwhhhh pussy is mad.. You get mad when you see people in masks?? Makes you upset? Like a baby?? Weird how you right wingers are all about FREEDOMMMMMMMMMM unless it comes to minding your own fucking business. I'll wear a mask in your house and you wont do shit, pussy. Thats how it is. Stop being such a pussy, pussy. Dont let people control your emotions so easily, little bitch. Stop crying at the sight of a mask... makes you seem like a real bitch. Soft like a cake, pussy as fuck, really.

Says the heroin addict lefty that isn't vaccinated

[Gravydoo II]

I saw a man eat out a stripper in mexico. People are wild.

[Baler]

I saw a man eat out a stripper in mexico. People are wild.

I honestly hope that man was wearing a mask. :eek:

[Gravydoo II]

Says the heroin addict lefty that isn't vaccinated

Go ask your poorly drawn frog how to feel, see if you have permission to stop being upset. Seems like you have a real issue with peoples face wear. You hate shower caps too? That makes you upset? What about water boots? rubber gloves make you cry too? lolol

[Baler]

Go ask your poorly drawn frog how to feel, see if you have permission to stop being upset. Seems like you have a real issue with peoples face wear. You hate shower caps too? That makes you upset? What about water boots? rubber gloves make you cry too? lolol

Are you saying you wear a condom on your head as a face mask? How are you still alive?

[Gwaihir]

Go ask your poorly drawn frog how to feel, see if you have permission to stop being upset. Seems like you have a real issue with peoples face wear. You hate shower caps too? That makes you upset? What about water boots? rubber gloves make you cry too? lolol

Says the heroin addict lefty who isn't vaccinated. It's free

[Gravydoo II]

You know you cant afford to see that, Baler.

[Mblake1981]

I honestly hope that man was wearing a mask. :eek:

That made me lol, put saran wrap on it... or toss a rock at it. :o

[Baler]

You know you cant afford to see that, Baler.

Nothing good can come from seeing that, I would not want to see that.

I was born in the USA, I already won the lottery.

[Gwaihir]

Remember when we told you morbidly o-beasts were putting their lives in danger before Covid, and then all of a sudden you cared about your health enough to guilt everyone else for not giving a fuck about your health either? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[Gravydoo II]

Says the heroin addict lefty who isn't vaccinated. It's free

Dude hates freedom so much. I thought my body my choice?? Im not allowed or allowed to decide what I want? If I want to use heroin as a vaccine, thats my business aint it? lolol I like to mix in a little blended up baby and adrenochrome to get my dance on.. Makes me able to walk through walls and pawn stuff anonymously. lolol

[Baler]

Remember when we told you morbidly o-beasts were putting their lives in danger before Covid, and then all of a sudden you cared about your health enough to guilt everyone else for not giving a fuck about your health either? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

Heart disease kills more people each year in America than anything else. Period.

People should be protesting fast food places and boycotting fried foods.

[Mblake1981]

Dude hates freedom so much. I thought my body my choice?? Im not allowed or allowed to decide what I want? If I want to use heroin as a vaccine, thats my business aint it? lolol I like to mix in a little blended up baby and adrenochrome to get my dance on.. Makes me able to walk through walls and pawn stuff anonymously. lolol

*squints*

I mean, had to look to see if I was on the Rogan Board after reading this comment. :o

[Gravydoo II]

ill never tell. lol

[Patriam1066]

I saw a man eat out a stripper in mexico. People are wild.

That tracks buddy, you are definitely low class, no offense

[Baler]

Be nice Patriam1066

[Patriam1066]

To the guy who calls me Omar Mateen? Nah, alea iacta est

[G13]

Remember when we told you morbidly o-beasts were putting their lives in danger before Covid, and then all of a sudden you cared about your health enough to guilt everyone else for not giving a fuck about your health either? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

14574

More proof that Lefties demanding everyone wear a mask has nothing to do with "Science"

gMP6_BRqJBI

[Horza]

We should all be more sympathetic to fatties like G13 and Teppler.

[Gravydoo II]

Wait wait.. I never called you omar mateen. I called someone else omar mateen. I cant even remember who it was... I dunno, someone. It wasnt you though. Unless you got banned and made a new account.

[FatherSioux]

That Lightfoot creature looks like an AI created tranny. Gives me the willies.

[Ennewi]

newsflash - exposing your immune system to germs keeps it strong

sorry you mask wearing pansies have shitty immune systems

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/05/10/flu-cases-historically-low-during-covid-what-expect-fall/7088318002/

The lack of flu cases last season shouldn’t affect the upcoming flu season, Swartzberg said. The fact that many people didn’t get sick during an unusual flu season doesn’t mean their immune systems have weakened and are unprepared for a normal season.

“It’s not like what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger,” he said. “We don’t need to be exposed to influenza on a regular basis and get sick to have stronger immune systems.”

[Pulgasari]

Heart disease kills more people each year in America than anything else. Period.

People should be protesting fast food places and boycotting fried foods.

https://i.imgur.com/M6Je9pv.png

[Ennewi]

Inconclusive? Look at the date when cases starting falling fast. It coincides exactly with the guidelines from The Ministry of Health in India

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/

14572

From your source:

Example:https://www.indiatimes.com/news/india/hydroxychloroquine-to-ivermectin-indians-are-self-medicating-against-covid-and-it-is-dangerous-540404.html

Some doctors in that country are recommending it and some are not. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inconclusive

There are three vaccines available that are reaching the masses. This better explains the decrease in cases, more so than hydroxychloroquine which has been available throughout the entirety of the pandemic.

What used to be considered trusted sources of information (The MSM, The CDC, ect.) have now become corrupted propaganda outlets pushing an agenda. Not "Science".

Any information that goes against the agenda is censored, suppressed or dismissed by the propagandists.

To my knowledge, nothing you've posted so far on these forums has been removed by the moderators. Take solace in that, Dale Gribble. "They" aren't coming for you.

Also, I find it curious you're suddenly worried about possible side effects from a tablet when reported side effects from the vaccine have killed hundreds, if not thousands of people worldwide.

Worry? The side effects from hydroxychloroquine aren't that significant, especially when compared to the coronavirus, which is why it was worth mentioning. If the risks aren't severe than it's a nonissue except if taken in lieu of getting vaccinated.

[G13]

Some doctors in that country are recommending it and some are not. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/inconclusive

There are three vaccines available that are reaching the masses. This better explains the decrease in cases, more so than hydroxychloroquine which has been available throughout the entirety of the pandemic.

Except vaccine supply has been an ongoing issue in India

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/05/why-covid-vaccine-producer-india-faces-major-shortage-of-doses.html

Only 30 million people have had the complete two doses of a Covid vaccine in India so far, government data shows. That’s a small number (just over 2%%) of India’s total population of 1.3 billion people — although around a quarter of that total are under 15 years old and, as such, are not eligible for a vaccine yet.

More likely the majority of treatment has been Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine which account for the big drop in numbers. Those are cheap and effective, so Big Parma can't make a pile of money on that, especially when you consider the "booster shots" that are going to be needed every year $$$$$$

To my knowledge, nothing you've posted so far on these forums has been removed by the moderators. Take solace in that, Dale Gribble. "They" aren't coming for you.

Dodge noted

Worry? The side effects from hydroxychloroquine aren't that significant, especially when compared to the coronavirus, which is why it was worth mentioning. If the risks aren't severe than it's a nonissue except if taken in lieu of getting vaccinated.

Have you been reading the horror stories of the side effects attributed to the vaccine?

Now we have 2 reports just released that confirm child Covid Hospital numbers in CA were vastly inflated

These numbers were used to spread fear propaganda and keep schools shut down. Turns out it was yet another Covid Scam by the propagandists you believe

https://hosppeds.aappublications.org/content/early/2021/05/18/hpeds.2021-006084

Taken together, these studies underscore the importance of clearly distinguishing between children hospitalized with SARS-CoV-2 found on universal testing versus those hospitalized for COVID-19 disease.” The studies demonstrate that reported hospitalization rates greatly overestimate the true burden of COVID-19 disease in children.

https://hosppeds.aappublications.org/content/early/2021/05/18/hpeds.2021-006001

https://hosppeds.aappublications.org/content/early/2021/05/18/hpeds.2021-005919

[Horza]

Big Parma

lol

[Ennewi]

...

At first you were all like :D
https://youtu.be/2uzXHnUViro

(Interesting details as to why studies have been inconclusive; the amount given seems to be the deciding factor.)

But then you were all like :mad:
https://youtu.be/DANEqOPcDwc

[FatherSioux]

https://i.imgur.com/M6Je9pv.png

It’s more about appropriate response than completely dismissing other issues.

Cops killing 12 unarmed black men a year sucks, sure. But so does 10,000 black men killing black men.

[Toxigen]

It’s more about appropriate response than completely dismissing other issues.

Cops killing 12 unarmed black men a year sucks, sure. But so does 10,000 black men killing black men.

hey you cant talk about black on black crime b/c that goes against BLM narrative you racist!

https://i.imgur.com/ufzMO0s.png

[Ennewi]

Except vaccine supply has been an ongoing issue in India

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/05/why-covid-vaccine-producer-india-faces-major-shortage-of-doses.html


India's second wave will likely occur regardless of how quickly the limited vaccines are made available, yet there should be enough before year's end. A third wave is expected. The current death toll is being underreported, both intentionally and through incompetence, according to medical professionals interviewed in the country. More than anything it seems, oxygen is what families are asking for outside of the hospitals, other than actual vaccines. Russia just sent over a relatively small amount of its single-dose Spuntik V. And then there's this...

https://www.reuters.com/world/india/jj-seeks-approval-conduct-trial-its-covid-19-vaccine-india-2021-04-20/

So while the vaccines have not reached anywhere near enough people in India to be lowering the numbers significantly, the number of deaths is far worse than you suggested. The trend is upwards, not down.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-04/covid-forecasters-warn-india-deaths-may-double-in-coming-weeks

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-57007004

https://youtu.be/hM_P-rLGhv4

[Ennewi]

hey you cant talk about black on black crime b/c that goes against BLM narrative you racist!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fact-check-meme-shows-incorrect-homicide-stats-race/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/29/fact-check-meme-shows-incorrect-homicide-stats-race/5739522002/)

[Horza]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fact-check-meme-shows-incorrect-homicide-stats-race/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/29/fact-check-meme-shows-incorrect-homicide-stats-race/5739522002/)

I seriously doubt racist losers would lie to us.

[Pulgasari]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fact-check-meme-shows-incorrect-homicide-stats-race/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/29/fact-check-meme-shows-incorrect-homicide-stats-race/5739522002/)

This needs sticky.

[G13]

So while the vaccines have not reached anywhere near enough people in India to be lowering the numbers significantly, the number of deaths is far worse than you suggested. The trend is upwards, not down.

There are three vaccines available that are reaching the masses.This better explains the decrease in cases, more so than hydroxychloroquine which has been available throughout the entirety of the pandemic.

Ennewi is by far the most annoying and pretentious pseud I've ever encountered on these forums.

lets talk about nietzsche broooo lets talk about kant brooooo hey bro lets talk about like, seneca, bro

[evogelion]

what the fuck is that. O_O

Its the Squatty Potty Unicorn, you uncultured swine.

[evogelion]

14574

More proof that Lefties demanding everyone wear a mask has nothing to do with "Science"

gMP6_BRqJBI


Oh shit, he quoted the word science. G13 a flat earther? Does he think wizards created covid? Am I a deep state space lizard sucking the blood of the innocent? Stay tuned...

But seriously if you want to prove you are correct, post some articles from peer reviewed journals. Not youtube, baised media, or fictitious graphs. State your sources, otherwise your red pill arguement is as valid as proclaiming the moon is actually cheese.

[FatherSioux]

Politicians going against CDC recommendations is now science.