Face Diapers Don't Do Anything

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/oOrlZgS.jpg

[Trexller]

Fail

[zodium]

https://i.imgur.com/4VMsKOb.png

https://i.imgur.com/ZT5a0x0.png

[G13]

https://i.imgur.com/ZT5a0x0.png

Fail

[zodium]

Fail

truth hurts huh, lib

[HalflingSpergand]

What's the group that thinks everyone should be armed but likes a small voluntarily funded government with not much power

Anti drugs and alcohol laws punishable by death, you dont have to work but if you are caught in public doing drugs or alcohol or making loud noises you are slain immediately

[zodium]

What's the group that thinks everyone should be armed but likes a small voluntarily funded government with not much power

https://i.imgur.com/ZFQGgrN.jpg

[G13]

truth hurts huh, lib

Kind of defeats the purpose of your meme when you include the guy that defeated Soviet Communism and freed East Germany from their iron authoritarian grip

Problem with posters like you and Horza is you rely on memes and have zero critical thinking skills

[Trexller]

What's the group that thinks everyone should be armed but likes a small voluntarily funded government with not much power

Anti drugs and alcohol laws punishable by death, you dont have to work but if you are caught in public doing drugs or alcohol or making loud noises you are slain immediately

Utopians

[Horza]

What's the group that thinks everyone should be armed but likes a small voluntarily funded government with not much power

https://i.imgur.com/5UvtzaZ.jpg

[Jibartik]

cancel culture: we have to fire someone for saying something once!

people: cancel culture is bad

cancel culture: there are more important things to worry about than cancel culture.

people: joins militia

[zodium]

Kind of defeats the purpose of your meme when you include the guy that defeated Soviet Communism and freed East Germany from their iron authoritarian grip

Problem with posters like you and Horza is you rely on memes and have zero critical thinking skills

https://i.imgur.com/rMAvZgj.jpg

[G13]

https://i.imgur.com/rMAvZgj.jpg

14421

[Horza]

cancel culture: we have to fire someone for saying something once!

people: cancel culture is bad

cancel culture: there are more important things to worry about than cancel culture.

people: joins militia

Who said anything about firing Bill Maher except you?

[zodium]

14421

https://i.imgur.com/LC6Hnpe.jpg

[Trexller]

https://i.imgur.com/rMAvZgj.jpg

You sure like that CCP propaganda. Have you read your little red book today?

[G13]

https://i.imgur.com/LC6Hnpe.jpg

Buffoonery

Troll Derailment Syndrome

[zodium]

the prosecution rests.

[Nocht]

but the prostitution stays up all night

[G13]

the prosecution rests.

Cringe

[Jibartik]

Who said anything about firing Bill Maher except you?

Who?

[Horza]

Who?

Even Bill Maher is calling bullshit on MSM's gross fear-mongering campaign.

Qp3gy_CLXho



https://i.imgur.com/xAXLrim.jpg

[Trexller]

Nah dude that meme is trying wayyy to hard.

Bill Maher pokes fun at all sides of politics/pop culture. Thats his brand of comedy. This guy is a comedian, in that profession you say, "Hey look at it from this perspective, it looks kinda funny, right?"

[azeth]

My only thought is I believe in science, if science states we don't need to use masks outside then I won't use one, if it states we need to use masks anytime then I will use one anytime. I don't know why if this is even a political thing. Unless your name is followed by MD I think you should probably avoid even having an opinion on it

[G13]

My only thought is I believe in science, if science states we don't need to use masks outside then I won't use one, if it states we need to use masks anytime then I will use one anytime. I don't know why if this is even a political thing. Unless your name is followed by MD I think you should probably avoid even having an opinion on it

There is no consensus by scientists that masks do anything to stop the spread of Covid

Everything we're going through right now is a Government dictate

[loramin]

There is no consensus by scientists that masks do anything to stop the spread of Covid

https://i.imgur.com/ofuR3M0.jpeg

[Jibartik]

There is no consensus by scientists that masks do anything to stop the spread of Covid

An N95 FFR removes particles from the air that are breathed through it. These respirators filter out at least 95% of very small (0.3 nm) particles. N95 FFRs are capable of filtering out all types of particles, including bacteria and viruses.

The diameter of SARS-CoV-2 virus has been found to range between 50 nm to 140 nm.


Now stop sounding retarded by saying "masks dont stop the spread of Covid"

[Trexller]

An N95 FFR removes particles from the air that are breathed through it. These respirators filter out at least 95% of very small (0.3 nm) particles. N95 FFRs are capable of filtering out all types of particles, including bacteria and viruses.

The diameter of SARS-CoV-2 virus has been found to range between [B]50 nm to 140 nm.

ok then have the geniuses change the mask mandates to N95 respirator only.

https://i.imgur.com/7wDpvnf.jpg

Watcha got now?

[Jibartik]

ok then have the geniuses change the mask mandates to N95 respirator only.

Watcha got now?

I am not a sheep. I dont wait for the goverment to tell me what to do or what not to do.

If you been getting all your mask information from the goverment then I pity you so hard.

[Trexller]

I am not a sheep. I dont wait for the goverment to tell me what to do or what not to do.

If you been getting all your mask information from the goverment then I pity you so hard.

Withdraw your pity, I walk around in public wearing a positive pressure suit, and a condom... just to be sure...

[Ennewi]

So what other sites are attempting to make the write-up more widely known?

http://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/11553/20210420/facemasks-harmful-to-health-not-helpful-against-covid-19-study-finds.htm

Which also offered this to its readership...

http://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/11552/20210420/are-covid-19-vaccines-the-mark-of-the-beast-pastor-explains.htm

Any other sites? One.

https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/face-masks-are-dirty-dangerous-dehumanizing

Wearing a mask causes a "hypoxic and hypercapnic state that constantly challenges the normal homeostasis, and activates fight-or-flight stress response," and "encountering people ... wearing face masks activates innate stress-fear emotion," Vainshelboim observed.

...

The researcher also emphasized the "dehumanizing" impact of a mask, opining that face coverings "partially delete the uniqueness and individuality of [the] person who is wearing the facemask, as well as the connected person."

Mardi Gras and Halloween must also be dehumanizing and activate the same innate stress-fear emotion, since masks are involved.

[Trexller]

Mardi Gras and Halloween must also be dehumanizing and activate the same innate stress-fear emotion, since masks are involved.

uh well the folks those articles are directed towards aren't usually interested in either of those events...

them bible thumpers will try to keep their sins and/or whatever weirdness behind closed doors, until people find out and they have to resign whatever post they had.

[Toxigen]

https://i.imgur.com/SBtS0Wk.jpg

Glad I don't live in a cucked blue state.

[Horza]

Glad I don't live in a state with a pedo congressman.

https://i.imgur.com/azoRK5I.jpg

[Trexller]

Glad I don't live in a state with a pedo congressman.

Im sure you are glad, you would hate all that competition.

[G13]

An N95 FFR removes particles from the air that are breathed through it. These respirators filter out at least 95% of very small (0.3 nm) particles. N95 FFRs are capable of filtering out all types of particles, including bacteria and viruses.

The diameter of SARS-CoV-2 virus has been found to range between 50 nm to 140 nm.


Now stop sounding retarded by saying "masks dont stop the spread of Covid"

Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong

[Jibartik]

not even close to wrong

[G13]

So what other sites are attempting to make the write-up more widely known?

http://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/11553/20210420/facemasks-harmful-to-health-not-helpful-against-covid-19-study-finds.htm

Which also offered this to its readership...

http://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/11552/20210420/are-covid-19-vaccines-the-mark-of-the-beast-pastor-explains.htm

Any other sites? One.

https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/face-masks-are-dirty-dangerous-dehumanizing



Mardi Gras and Halloween must also be dehumanizing and activate the same innate stress-fear emotion, since masks are involved.

Speaking of masks and the detrimental health effects of wearing them

https://blogs.cdc.gov/niosh-science-blog/2020/06/10/ppe-burden/

[G13]

not even close to wrong

It's been mentioned many times and shown in the random clinical trials I provided that there literally is no difference between the N95 and masks that 99.999999999999% of people are wearing today to stop the spread of influenza infections

[myrddraal]

Speaking of masks and the detrimental health effects of wearing them

https://blogs.cdc.gov/niosh-science-blog/2020/06/10/ppe-burden/

Yeah there are just tons of negatives. All those surgeons, doctors and nurses who've been wearing them for years just drop like flies.

[Ennewi]

Random Clinical Trial showing that masks don't do anything to prevent the spread of the common cold

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19216002/

Results: Thirty-two health care workers completed the study, resulting in 2464 subject days. There were 2 colds during this time period, 1 in each group. Of the 8 symptoms recorded daily, subjects in the mask group were significantly more likely to experience headache during the study period (P < .05). Subjects living with children were more likely to have high cold severity scores over the course of the study.

Conclusion: Face mask use in health care workers has not been demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds. A larger study is needed to definitively establish noninferiority of no mask use.


Masks vs Influenza

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/j.1750-2659.2011.00307.x


None of the studies we reviewed established a conclusive relationship between mask ⁄ respirator use and protection against influenza infection. Some useful clues, however, could be gleaned. Subanalyses performed for one of the larger randomised controlled studies in a household setting found evidence of reduced rates of influenza-like illness if household contacts consistently wore the mask or respira-tor

Randomized Clinical Trial (N95 vs Medical Mask) Influenza

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2749214

Randomized Clinical Trial (N95 vs Surgical) Influenza

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2749214

You pulled a Bart Simpson and upped the wordcount of your post with filler; a single link (N95 vs Surgical / Medical Mask) would have sufficed. But on to the contents...

Conclusions and Relevance Among outpatient health care personnel, N95 respirators vs medical masks as worn by participants in this trial resulted in no significant difference in the incidence of laboratory-confirmed influenza.

These people aren't likely to be interacting in the same enclosed area for extended periods of time. The argument for mask-use is hinged on the claim that it lessens the risk of spread when groups of people are indoors, which would explain why prisons saw an uptick in cases when the outside population did not.

https://www.lohud.com/story/news/2021/01/19/covid-new-york-prisons-spike-in-cases-deaths-releases-vaccine-plan/4180256001/

The overall statewide positivity rate in New York is around 6.5%, according to the governor's office. In New York prisons, the positivity rate is 16.5%, according to the Correctional Association of New York, an independent organization that serves as a monitor under state law.

Also, in the link you included above, there was no mention of the all-important non-mask wearing group which is a prerequisite for any link you post since you claim that "masks don't do anything".

Spoiler Alert - Masks don't do anything

Stop trying to derail the thread with your Koch nonsense.

Arnold Palmer Alert - Your mantra isn't doing anything.

A debate ought to involve other related and contributing factors without either distracting from the main topic. If you cannot see where the two are related or where one contributes to the other, than the debate will not be a compelling.

As you were the one who made this overtly political from the start, and continue to do so, you only have yourself to thank. I would have preferred to ignore the politics of the day altogether.

However, it's interesting how when the underpinnings of your argument are associated with arguments of other like-minded individuals, suddenly politics is off-limits. It's okay if you wield politics against others repeatedly, and for no other purpose than to feel good/right, but the moment that political argument is turned on its head or explored more thoroughly, you demand the thread stay on topic. Which is it? Are politics allowed to be discussed or not?

[G13]

You pulled a Bart Simpson and upped the wordcount of your post with filler; a single link (N95 vs Surgical / Medical Mask) would have sufficed. But on to the contents...

These people aren't likely to be interacting in the same enclosed area for extended periods of time. The argument for mask-use is hinged on the claim that it lessens the risk of spread when groups of people are indoors, which would explain why prisons saw an uptick in cases when the outside population did not.

https://www.lohud.com/story/news/2021/01/19/covid-new-york-prisons-spike-in-cases-deaths-releases-vaccine-plan/4180256001/

Also, in the link you included above, there was no mention of the all-important non-mask wearing group which is a prerequisite for any link you post since you claim that "masks don't do anything".

Bart Simpson, Arnold Palmer, Koch Brothers. You're all over the place.

Are you claiming people should be wearing masks outside at the beach?

Arnold Palmer Alert - Your mantra isn't doing anything.

A debate ought to involve other related and contributing factors without either distracting from the main topic. If you cannot see where the two are related or where one contributes to the other, than the debate will not be a compelling.

As you were the one who made this overtly political from the start, and continue to do so, you only have yourself to thank. I would have preferred to ignore the politics of the day altogether.

You haven't been debating. You've been critical of the source and disguising a political argument with a medical one, without providing any proof the masks people are wearing today do anything to stop the spread of Covid

I don't care about Bart Simpson and Arnold Palmer

Please provide links to multiple random clinical trials that show those flimsy masks the vast majority of people are wearing do anything. Keep in mind most people have been wearing the same mask for a year, so the degradation of their effectiveness (if any) can't be understated

However, it's interesting how when the underpinnings of your argument are associated with arguments of other like-minded individuals, suddenly politics is off-limits. It's okay if you wield politics against others repeatedly, and for no other purpose than to feel good/right, but the moment that political argument is turned on its head or explored more thoroughly, you demand the thread stay on topic. Which is it? Are politics allowed to be discussed or not?

Bart Simpson, Arnold Palmer, Wikipedia, Politifact, Rolling Stone . ect. ect. ect.

Just stop it

[Ennewi]

Speaking of masks and the detrimental health effects of wearing them

https://blogs.cdc.gov/niosh-science-blog/2020/06/10/ppe-burden/

You link the CDC as evidence and yet, were I to do the same you would disregard it outright, lumping it in with Rolling Stone magazine.

That said, the elderly are most at risk of that blog details. These warnings would be worth considering for those of an age or with certain conditions such as asthma, cystic fibrosis, etc. Again, an ounce of prevention is worth an ounce of cure.

People have been wearing masks while mowing lawns and walking in heavily polluted areas. Even kids' toys come with warning labels, not to bring Tickle-Me-Elmo back into the conversation. Wouldn't want to derail the thread once and for all.

[Ennewi]

Are you claiming people should be wearing masks outside at the beach?

Please provide links to multiple random clinical trials that show those flimsy masks the vast majority of people are wearing do anything. Keep in mind most people have been wearing the same mask for a year, so the degradation of their effectiveness (if any) can't be understated

If what you gathered from that I'm arguing for outdoor mask-use, than I don't know what to tell you.

Too many references? Who knew online debates could be so complicated?!

You haven't been debating. You've been critical of the source and disguising a political argument with a medical one, without providing any proof the masks people are wearing today do anything to stop the spread of Covid

You've been critical of my sources, except you haven't shown why they aren't to be taken seriously. So, if we're going by your definition, you haven't been debating either.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/debate

Bart Simpson, Arnold Palmer, Wikipedia, Politifact, Rolling Stone . ect. ect. ect.

Just stop it

You left out Twitter.

[G13]

You link the CDC as evidence and yet, were I to do the same you would disregard it outright, lumping it in with Rolling Stone magazine.

That said, the elderly are most at risk of that blog details. These warnings would be worth considering for those of an age or with certain conditions such as asthma, cystic fibrosis, etc. Again, an ounce of prevention is worth an ounce of cure.

People have been wearing masks while mowing lawns and walking in heavily polluted areas. Even kids' toys come with warning labels, not to bring Tickle-Me-Elmo back into the conversation. Wouldn't want to derail the thread once and for all.

Go ahead and find me multiple (randomized) clinical trials on the CDC's website that proves you right

If you want to have the opinion that masks have a placebo effect that makes people "feel safe" I'll grant you that, but that's completely different than irrefutable proof they actually do something to prevent the spread

You've been trying to derail the thread since your first post - keep trying if you want /shrug

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/n8p1mh8.jpg

[Gravydoo II]

when you got faith on your side, you cannot argue that. I have faith g13 or whatever his name was before he was banned, is wrong. I win.

[Jibartik]

This is like asking a 57 year old woman to leave your store.

[G13]

when you got faith on your side, you cannot argue that. I have faith g13 or whatever his name was before he was banned, is wrong. I win.

I have 10 years on you

[Jibartik]

Yes gravy have some respect, this is a 57 year old woman you're talking to, she even has multiple doctors notes.

[G13]

Yes gravy have some respect, this is a 57 year old woman you're talking to, she even has multiple doctors notes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VniisEVh72o

[Tethler]

Wow what an idiotic post. You can get off your high horse now.

Even with the masks, aerosol particles smaller in diameter than the holes in the masks remain that can contain the virus. Not to mention the huge gaps on each side of the mask. Have you not seen people wearing them?

Masks don't do anything

Go look up viral load, you shit stain. If someone spits in your mouth and someone sneezes 5 yards away upwind of you, which instance is more likely to get you sick?


It's been a gradual control experiment. Pavlov's dogs.

1) 2 week lock down to flatten the curve
2) Initial mask mandate
3) Vaccine(s)
4) People telling you to double mask and social distance even after having been vaccinated (No Agenda there nah)
5) Vaccine Passport
6) Vaccine ID (can't go to events currently like sports/entertainment venues
7) Eternal Mask Mandate (See Oregon) what's the point of being vaccinated?

It's not some conspiracy, dumbass. When the previous measures were insufficient, they were strengthened.

I live in Japan, where the population density is waaaay higher than in the US. Even in Tokyo, a city of 20 million people, for most of this pandemic the daily infection rates have been triple digit. The difference between Japan and the US is that people here follow pandemic protocols: masking in public, regular handwashing, and social distancing when possible. And they do it without being forced. Japan's "lockdowns" have all just been requests with no penalty/enforcement. They do it because they aren't a bunch of selfish fucking children.

All of these "useless" masks sure are doing a good job on Japan's trains and subways where people pack in like sardines and a mask in your only defense. If what you said is true, daily cases would skyrocket from the 100 million people that ride the trains here daily.


But you're stupid if you question any of it right?

In your case, yes.

[G13]

Go look up viral load

Not interested in your load man

Sorry to disappoint

[Tethler]

Not interested in your load man

Sorry to disappoint

Convenient response to questions you can't answer. I accept your defeat.

[G13]

Convenient response to questions you can't answer. I accept your defeat.

Everything was your opinion when I've already linked a randomized control study performed in Japan that says you're wrong

[Gustoo]

Just jumping in here

G13 is making a specific point and claiming there are no studies demonstrating the efficacy of these masks.

Is there a study that shows they are effective?

Just restating what I believe is his current question. I don’t really care I don’t mind being able to hide my reactions to bad ideas with less effort, so wearing masks is OK

[Cassawary]

Just jumping in here

G13 is making a specific point and claiming there are no studies demonstrating the efficacy of these masks.

Is there a study that shows they are effective?

Just restating what I believe is his current question. I don’t really care I don’t mind being able to hide my reactions to bad ideas with less effort, so wearing masks is OK

That's what makes it an appeal to ignorance - none of us know! :o

[Kaveh]

Why is wearing a mask even worth this fight?

What is wrong with you guys? Why can’t you just participate in society. The mask isn’t harming you. Just wear it and save this mindless hatred for the Chinese who started this plague

[loramin]

Not interested in your load man

https://i.imgur.com/ofuR3M0.jpeg

[HalflingSpergand]

Why is wearing a mask even worth this fight?

What is wrong with you guys? Why can’t you just participate in society. The mask isn’t harming you. Just wear it and save this mindless hatred for the Chinese who started this plague

Not wearing a mask is my participation. Plus i think Chinese people are cool

[Kaveh]

Not wearing a mask is my participation. Plus i think Chinese people are cool

Seek Christ

[Gravydoo II]

Yes gravy have some respect, this is a 57 year old woman you're talking to, she even has multiple doctors notes.

we know shes got multiple accounts

[HalflingSpergand]

Christ doesnt want u diaper faced in fear of Gods plan

[Kaveh]

Christ would have us accommodate those with whom we disagree. It’s something along the lines of philosophical “turning the other cheek” and not being an unnecessary contrarian. Also, Christ said render unto Caesar...

If we are the Roman Empire, defying a state order is a sin. I repeat, seek Christ

[HalflingSpergand]

No Christ would have us trust Gods plan and stop wearing gay masks like little defiant non believing rats

[Cassawary]

neither of those things.

Christ himself was a multiple felon killed by the state so he'd want us to:

Be gay, do crimes - get martyred like himself & mr floyd

[Kaveh]

You might be right Pokesan

[Nocht]

Kaveh I'm pretty sure Jesus would of bent you over his knee at this point with all the judgement you cast on others.

[FatherSioux]

Be gay, do crimes

Redundant.

[Tethler]

Everything was your opinion when I've already linked a randomized control study performed in Japan that says you're wrong

I looked at the study you posted. Its for the common cold, and was conducted in 2009. From the 2500ish participants there was 1 infection in the mask group and 1 infection in the no mask group. That reveals absolutely jack shit and sure as hell does not refute anything. Try again.

[Cassawary]

Redundant.

Small but in character.

[zodium]

Christ would have us accommodate those with whom we disagree. It’s something along the lines of philosophical “turning the other cheek” and not being an unnecessary contrarian. Also, Christ said render unto Caesar...

If we are the Roman Empire, defying a state order is a sin. I repeat, seek Christ

practically all religions were founded by a radical left winger, which is why liberals hate religion.

[Jibartik]

haha imagine not noticing they've created a new one.

[zodium]

haha imagine not noticing they've created a new one.

liberals don't really *have* beliefs. sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. the toy must be put away immediately. and the child reprimanded. liberalism isn't change -- not even incremental change. it is *control*. over yourself and the world. exercise it. ask yourself: is there something sinister in liberalism? and then answer: no. god is in his heaven. everything is normal on Earth.

[Jibartik]

You sound like Franco Macalousso

https://i.imgur.com/IzWa9c2.png

There's an everquest sound (https://youtu.be/Jf0735L95mc?t=3965) in that movie lol

[G13]

I looked at the study you posted. Its for the common cold, and was conducted in 2009. From the 2500ish participants there was 1 infection in the mask group and 1 infection in the no mask group. That reveals absolutely jack shit and sure as hell does not refute anything. Try again.

it's certainly more credible than your emotions

[zodium]

You sound like Franco Macalousso

https://i.imgur.com/IzWa9c2.png

There's an everquest sound (https://youtu.be/Jf0735L95mc?t=3965) in that movie lol

that's very flattering, i'm really just your average joe satanist.

[Tethler]

it's certainly more credible than your emotions

The only thing credible about it is that it's inconclusive. You have a sports therapist to base your claims on. You have nothing, gtfo

[FatherSioux]

Small but in character.

Jokes are hard for serious people like you.

[red_demonman]

Holy crap some of you are so immersed in politics its frightening.

[bubur]

Holy crap some of you are so immersed in politics its frightening.

the same convo with the same ppl is occurring in 4 or 5 threads. now that's truly frightening

[TripSin]

The very next sentence about findings from that study, which OP of course leaves out, also claims that asymptomatic people can't infect people. This is of course not true as we know asymptomatic transmission does in fact occur.

Just because one study suggests something doesn't mean it's true. Scientific illiteracy is so rampant. Our education systems are failing too many people. One of the terrible consequences of this is you get people like G13 who can't properly evaluate the research literature.

[HalflingSpergand]

We dont know shit

[TripSin]

We dont know shit

It's complicated. A lot of studies are poorly designed, have confounds, lack appropriate statistical power, or are flawed for other reasons. Scientific research is heavily flawed, in large part because of the need for money to carry out research and in many cases the desire to make money. But at the same time, we've amassed a lot of knowledge. Vaccines, for instance, are really quite amazing at what they do for us and of course they wouldn't have been invented without prior research into how our immune systems work. Medicine is constantly evolving. We continually learn new things and sometimes have to reevaluate what we thought we once knew.

[Jibartik]

At least we know stuff shared on facebook is vetted by billions of users so we can have some assurance in what we read from there.

[starkind]

Face diapers is a really emasculinating term.

Mask wearing can be fierce and empowering and that's how I prefer to see it.

Hook em up with a platinum ruby viel.

[Byue]

Holy crap some of you are so immersed in politics its frightening.

they are not versed into politics, I don't even think they know the differences between policy and opinion. They just spew the name of a few politicians they don't like and demonize an entire party that millions of Americans adhere to and call that politics.

Have you ever seen them discuss any policy beside immigration?
I think they like to play pretend.
Weird how I had a typo and wrote lie.

because they lie, a lot, too.
just a thought.

[Ennewi]

Face diapers is a really emasculinating term.

Mask wearing can be fierce and empowering and that's how I prefer to see it.

Hook em up with a platinum ruby viel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9wi0cPrU4U

[starkind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9wi0cPrU4U

poor bane OMGosh.

[Gustoo]

P99 forum needs to turn into an EQ role playing only forum. Sorry we've reached the end of the line.

[Kaveh]

P99 forum needs to turn into an EQ role playing only forum. Sorry we've reached the end of the line.

I mean I’m just going to became a high elf paladin and tell all of you to seek mithaniel marr so be careful what you wish for

[cd288]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

Imagine still being this person after a year of covid? Are you posting here because in real life everyone just rolls their eyes and annoys you?

Trump lost dude, it’s okay to move on and give up this whole covid hoax thing

[HalflingSpergand]

Trump lost bro

[Toxigen]

https://i.imgur.com/qKAsQNd.png

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/qOfPxfz.gif

[Tethler]

https://i.imgur.com/qKAsQNd.png

I like the lime on top of CoronaChad, nice touch.

[Jimjam]

Face diapers is a really emasculinating term.

Mask wearing can be fierce and empowering and that's how I prefer to see it.

Hook em up with a platinum ruby viel.

I loved masks for winter, made life feel like on big ski trip. I’m a bit of a aspy irl, way too readable and not able to read others. The mask really helps level the playing field there.

The biggest problem is it really gets in the way of eating my chicken nugs and slurping milkshake.

I also have trollish tendencies so am greatly amused by people that are aggravated by me being over precautious and wearing masks excessively.

[Jimjam]

P99 forum needs to turn into an EQ role playing only forum. Sorry we've reached the end of the line.

Koved the Cursed in Plains of Korona RP INC

[HalflingSpergand]

I've noticed fat and ugly people embraced the mask with open arms. I'm very good looking handsome so naturally in not going to cover my face

[Jimjam]

I've noticed fat and ugly people embraced the mask with open arms. I'm very good looking handsome so naturally in not going to cover my face

I was the only one in the gym wearing le mask!

[Vivitron]

Update: the article was retracted. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

On one hand the article was bullshit. On the other hand, the journal isn't retracting its bullshit articles, it's retracting its controversial articles.

1. A broader review of existing scientific evidence clearly shows that approved masks with correct certification, and worn in compliance with guidelines, are an effective prevention of COVID-19 transmission.
If this broad review exists I would like to see it.

[G13]

Update: the article was retracted. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

On one hand the article was bullshit. On the other hand, the journal isn't retracting its bullshit articles, it's retracting its controversial articles.


If this broad review exists I would like to see it.

Caved to the Mask Nazis

[HalflingSpergand]

Great example why you doing wait for them to tell you how to live

[Shawk]

Caved to the Mask Nazis

Great example why you doing wait for them to tell you how to live

u two would make the perfect power couple

[HalflingSpergand]

According to strict forum coping policy we are literally the same person

[Snortles Chortles]

you’re killing grandma!

[FatherSioux]

According to strict forum coping policy we are literally the same person

Most insight you've ever provided...I mean we've ever provided.

[Horza]

Update: the article was retracted. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

On one hand the article was bullshit. On the other hand, the journal isn't retracting its bullshit articles, it's retracting its controversial articles.


If this broad review exists I would like to see it.

Why are the previous four posters acting like OP's study wasn't retracted? :p

[Gravydoo II]

They dont care. You're not dealing with honest actors. These are bentham-science people. They will believe what they are told because it comes from an authority they worship, not because they understand it. They were told masks are not effective, they believe it. Nobody has EVER called republicans "the party of thinkers" or "rational". They will kick you from their party if you dont say "rape hands is still the president" ask liz cheney.

[Kaveh]

I’ve thought for a long time now that Liz Cheney was the dyke, but apparently that’s her sister

Whoops

[G13]

Caved to the Mask Nazis

Lefties acting like censorship is "Science" = Comedy Gold


P.S. Face Diapers don't do anything

[Gravydoo II]

I’ve thought for a long time now that Liz Cheney was the dyke, but apparently that’s her sister

Whoops

Yeah thats a slur. Might wanna change that.

[G13]

14511

[Gravydoo II]

Caved to the Mask Nazis

Lefties acting like censorship is "Science" = Comedy Gold


P.S. Face Diapers don't do anything

Keep crying like a bitch. Maybe you can sell those tears online.

[Baler]

14511

practicing social distancing, very good.

[G13]

Keep crying like a bitch. Maybe you can sell those tears online.

Censorship isn't Science

[Horza]

P.S. Face Diapers don't do anything

Please cite a study in a peer-reviewed journal that hasn't been retracted.

[G13]

Please cite a study in a peer-reviewed journal that hasn't been retracted.

Where have the vast majority of infections taken place

[Gravydoo II]

Censorship isn't Science
Dont pretend to care now that your little leg has been kicked out from beneath you. You would accept bentham-science peer reviews. lol

[G13]

Dont pretend to care now that your little leg has been kicked out from beneath you. You would accept bentham-science peer reviews. lol

Censorship isn't Science

[Gravydoo II]

What happened man? You had science on your side... Makes you look REALLY stupid, now. Seeing as how you didnt understand the paper in the first place. lol

I know shes such a fickle mistress. Always changing and making you look stupid in front of everyone lol.

[Baler]

https://i.imgur.com/tJkLFtk.gif

[G13]

What happened man? You had science on your side... Makes you look REALLY stupid, now. Seeing as how you didnt understand the paper in the first place. lol

I know shes such a fickle mistress. Always changing and making you look stupid in front of everyone lol.

It's just censorship

Not Science

Where do the vast majority of Covid infections occur?

[cd288]

Lol this G13 dude is such a sad human being; still can’t just take the L and instead just rambles on to cover his embarrassment that he didn’t understand shit

[G13]

Lol this G13 dude is such a sad human being; still can’t just take the L and instead just rambles on to cover his embarrassment that he didn’t understand shit

Censorship isn't Science

[Ennewi]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_standards (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Scientific_standards)

The statement that something is "backed by science" tends to carry great weight because it implies a tested, evidence-based validity to the idea. Such assertions are often made in marketing a product, idea, or even a belief system, even if it hasn't actually been exposed to the rigors of science.

Pseudoscience has been defined as "claims presented so that they appear [to be] scientific even though they lack supporting evidence and plausibility."[3] Wikipedia is concerned[4] about pseudoscience because it has the potential to make Wikipedia less reliable if not presented properly. Wikipedia does sometimes allow pseudoscience to be presented as a social phenomenon, if it is notable. However, Wikipedia editors must be careful to clearly separate science from pseudoscience in articles and to explain the criteria for distinction. There is broad community support to not misrepresent science by painting pseudoscience as science.

When pseudoscience may be presented, it must be presented properly. Pseudoscience should always be accompanied by the corresponding scientific view, and should not obfuscate descriptions of relevant scientific evidence or the lack of scientific evidence. All the applicable opinions about pseudoscience should be described in proportion to their prominence, which in science and medicine related discussions is weighted to the majority view among experts in the field of scientific study. In the interest of describing topics fully, articles written about notable pseudoscientific concepts may require a fair amount of detail in the article about the topic, but care should be taken to clearly attribute the views of proponents without implying that such views are actually statements of fact. In contrast, less descriptive detail (or none at all) should be included in articles that are not strictly about a pseudoscience if the putatively relevant pseudoscience in question is of little or no notability.

[HalflingSpergand]

I'm throwing the baby out with the bathwater, science is over. Might have been some potential there but it's long gone

[Gravydoo II]

Censorship isn't Science

You see how hes the victim in all this?? Those darn lefties got it out for him. They censored that shitty paper he didnt understand, just to make people like him look stupid. It was an international plot, and hes the victim of this horrible censorship. $20 says hes never been wrong, blames everyone else for his shit life, everyone is out to get him. "the government" is mean to him, too. Such a victim, poor baby. She needs her bottle.

[FatherSioux]

They dont care. You're not dealing with honest actors. These are bentham-science people. They will believe what they are told because it comes from an authority they worship, not because they understand it. They were told masks are not effective, they believe it. Nobody has EVER called republicans "the party of thinkers" or "rational". They will kick you from their party if you dont say "rape hands is still the president" ask liz cheney.

It's astounding to read this and realize you are accusing the right of the exact same thing they would accuse you of. Truly amazing.

From the retraction though

1. A broader review of existing scientific evidence clearly shows that approved masks with correct certification, and worn in compliance with guidelines, are an effective prevention of COVID-19 transmission.

No one is wearing N95s, no one is wearing them correctly, certainly not with certification?

Also keep in mind when you cling to your science that the New Sokal hoax is very much real and proves how compromised the term "science" has become. Math is racist to guys so there's that great contribution from the progressives.

New Sokal Hoax (https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/new-sokal-hoax/572212/)

[Gravydoo II]

So one thing happened, all science bad. Got it. How many fields does the word "science" cover?? A million fields of study? Two million?? Welp, that invalidates all of it. You're right. Yeah, thats bentham science. I said that the ENTIRE TIME. He's a bentham science man. "Peer review" does not mean this is gospel, from jesus christ, and it can never change. Plenty of websites, like bentham science, will publish your bullshit of science sounding nonsense for 800 bucks, and say its peer reviewed. G13 fell prey to a bentham-science bullshit paper. (they are a fraudulent peer review website.)

You see how that works? Welp, 20 papers ruined science. Its all fraud, now. Cause thats how it works. When you find a counterfeit dollar, you throw away ALL your money. Cause thats smart and rational. There is simply no way ANYONE could determine those fake papers were fake and used to expose a fake organization, right? Not you, right?

Jesus this is news to you?? The bentham science case is over a decade old. Get with it. How did science survive for that decade while bentham science existed and you didnt know about it, now all the sudden, its a problem.

[Shawk]

I'm throwing the baby out with the bathwater, science is over. Might have been some potential there but it's long gone

right: "Science is over.."
left: "Academics is over.."

one in the same

[Tethler]

Caved to the Mask Nazis

Lefties acting like censorship is "Science" = Comedy Gold


P.S. Face Diapers don't do anything

This is a weird way to say that you have no evidence for your claims. Maybe try harder and go dig up something from a podiatrist or something to back up the claims of the totally relevant sports therapist that you cited.

[Barnes]

Face Diapers are a way to identify the mouth breathers and the awake.

[cd288]

It's astounding to read this and realize you are accusing the right of the exact same thing they would accuse you of. Truly amazing.

From the retraction though

1. A broader review of existing scientific evidence clearly shows that approved masks with correct certification, and worn in compliance with guidelines, are an effective prevention of COVID-19 transmission.

No one is wearing N95s, no one is wearing them correctly, certainly not with certification?

Also keep in mind when you cling to your science that the New Sokal hoax is very much real and proves how compromised the term "science" has become. Math is racist to guys so there's that great contribution from the progressives.

New Sokal Hoax (https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/new-sokal-hoax/572212/)

I believe that surgical masks are certified to prevent the spread. Cloth masks are not

[cd288]

Censorship isn't Science

Did someone call the waaambulance yet for this guy or do I need to?

[G13]

This is a weird way to say that you have no evidence for your claims. Maybe try harder and go dig up something from a podiatrist or something to back up the claims of the totally relevant sports therapist that you cited.

Censorship doesn't prove face diapers do anything

You see how hes the victim in all this?? Those darn lefties got it out for him. They censored that shitty paper he didnt understand, just to make people like him look stupid. It was an international plot, and hes the victim of this horrible censorship. $20 says hes never been wrong, blames everyone else for his shit life, everyone is out to get him. "the government" is mean to him, too. Such a victim, poor baby. She needs her bottle.

You got Covidz though so that proves my point

[Pulgasari]

I'm throwing the baby out with the bathwater, science is over. Might have been some potential there but it's long gone

I testify that there is no science but the immortal science and zizek is it's large adult son

[HalflingSpergand]

https://i.imgur.com/UXrQ3Ax.gif

[Gravydoo II]

Censorship doesn't prove face diapers do anything



You got Covidz though so that proves my point

Nah i feel good today. one day covid, amazing. I must be some kind of antifa super soldier with a healing mutation making me impervious to diseases that last longer than 24 hours.

[Blingy]

Did someone call the waaambulance yet for this guy or do I need to?

That's "Call Da AMBALAMPS!" sir.

[HalflingSpergand]

Nah i feel good today. one day covid, amazing. I must be some kind of antifa super soldier with a healing mutation making me impervious to diseases that last longer than 24 hours.

It's called a hangover

[Gravydoo II]

It's called a hangover

alcohol is for pussies.

[HalflingSpergand]

Allergies

[myrddraal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZB4kE5eT3Y

[G13]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZB4kE5eT3Y

Masking kids is child abuse

They don't do anything

[Shawk]

Masking kids is child abuse

They don't do anything

Found the Karen

[G13]

Found the Karen

They literally don't do anything

It's comical

[Shawk]

They literally don't do anything

It's comical

Hey Dipshit. Open your eyes and read what I am typing for a second and try it.

Put on a Mask, I know this is going to be hard ok.. Bear with me.. you're going to get through this with your soft lips intact..

Ok.. So put on your mask, or even a shirt over your face, try not to suffocate yourself.. now go to your freezer inside the cave you live under, Blow. Do you see your breath?

Now do the same without a mask.

Fascinating stuff, A freezer is magical bit of science too, it is called Refrigeration, do you need this explained to you too?

[HalflingSpergand]

Or not

[G13]

Hey Dipshit. Open your eyes and read what I am typing for a second and try it.

Put on a Mask, I know this is going to be hard ok.. Bear with me.. you're going to get through this with your soft lips intact..

Ok.. So put on your mask, or even a shirt over your face, try not to suffocate yourself.. now go to your freezer inside the cave you live under, Blow. Do you see your breath?

Now do the same without a mask.

Fascinating stuff, A freezer is magical bit of science too, it is called Refrigeration, do you need this explained to you too?

I don't understand why you're going into Maskhole mode

You should be yelling at Gravy. He's the one that got Covid

[Shawk]

I don't understand why you're going into Maskhole mode

You should be yelling at Gravy. He's the one that got Covid

Did you get to the putting on a mask part yet?

[G13]

Did you get to the putting on a mask part yet?

Face Masks don't do anything though

Ask Gravy

[Gravydoo II]

I don't understand why you're going into Maskhole mode

You should be yelling at Gravy. He's the one that got Covid

You gonna cry all night about me? You sound worried. Like a bitch at my bed side, crying over her lords illness. Its ok, bitch. Daddy will pull through. I epoxied a table today. What did you do? Besides crying, obviously. You really ought to hydrate after shedding so many tears.

[Shawk]

Face Masks don't do anything though

Ask Gravy

Did you go to your Freezer yet? Wear a sickDope looking handkerchief if you are feeling anxious today, breath with the handkerchief on, did you suffocate?

[G13]

Did you go to your Freezer yet? Wear a sickDope looking handkerchief if you are feeling anxious today, breath with the handkerchief on, did you suffocate?

All the masks people are wearing do absolutely nothing

The vast majority of Covid infections don't even occur in public places or outside

Lefties are gullible and stupid

[Shawk]

All the masks people are wearing do absolutely nothing

The vast majority of Covid infections don't even occur in public places or outside

Lefties are gullible and stupid

First statement, False.
Second statement, False.
Third statement, False.

You do this pattern over and over and over again it's fascinating.

I'm serious. What kind of bot are you? What kind of language are you wrote in? Please inform further through this Internet thing on your Windows thing through your Samsung thing with your Logitech things and your Razer speakers in those Electronic things.

Right(ies) have an issue too. Everything they use it made by Left(ies)

[Tethler]

Face Masks don't do anything though



You still have yet to provide evidence for this claim from a reputable source.

[Shawk]

He doesn't get to sources.. He literally doesn't say anything, i think he is marching in a band in his head to some ptsd.. or hes a bot, troll.. all kinda sad.

[G13]

You still have yet to provide evidence for this claim from a reputable source.

That's not how it works. You're asking me to prove a negative.

You have to prove to me that the masks everyone has been running around wearing over the last year (cloth masks and store bought masks) stop the spread of Covid

Do you have anything that proves that?

He doesn't get to sources.. He literally doesn't say anything, i think he is marching in a band in his head to some ptsd.. or hes a bot, troll.. all kinda sad.

Face masks don't do anything

It's all in your head

[Horza]

Providing evidence to support your claim isn't proving a negative, just show us a study in a peer-reviewed journal that hasn't been retracted.

[G13]

Providing evidence to support your claim isn't proving a negative, just show us a study in a peer-reviewed journal that hasn't been retracted.

They don't do anything

Have you ever read the fine print on that mask you bought in the store

[Horza]

Just one study in a peer-reviewed journal that hasn't been retracted..

[Gravydoo II]

He's a bentham science man. Any journal, no matter how low the standards, will do for him. He would take the word of the "pseudoscience journal" as fact. Even after they have been proven to accept outright fake papers and rubber stamp them as peer reviewed for 800 dollars.

The lancet had to retract a paper or two before. Does that mean the entire journal is now garbage??

Welp dont ever go to a doctor. You know where they learn medicine?? LIBERAL COLLEGES THAT REVIEW AND PUBLISH SCIENTIFIC PAPERS!!! cue the fucking scary music.

Dont use any technology. It was developed using scientific method and practices known and published by journals which peer review.

How do you think humans make new technology?? You think they reinvent the wheel everytime they make a car? rediscover electricity with every cel phone made? lolol

[Gravydoo II]

News flash. He JUST found out about this.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5487745/

Seriously. He didnt know this was happening. Now, he is a huge advocate for science. lol

[G13]

Just one study in a peer-reviewed journal that hasn't been retracted..

There are several in this thread already of large randomized clinical trials that prove masks don't do anything

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817

The recommendation to wear surgical masks to supplement other public health measures did not reduce the SARS-CoV-2 infection rate among wearers by more than 50% in a community with modest infection rates, some degree of social distancing, and uncommon general mask use. The data were compatible with lesser degrees of self-protection.

The only reason why the original was retracted was to gather more data on N95 masks (that nobody wears). The opinion did not change in regards to store bought face diapers which even have a disclaimer on them that they don't stop the spread of Covid

Masks are purely political symbolism which is why it's all lefties pretending they work. You know they don't work either, you just want to tell other people what to do

[Horza]

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817

Objective:
To assess whether recommending surgical mask use outside the home reduces wearers' risk for SARS-CoV-2 infection in a setting where masks were uncommon and not among recommended public health measures.

[G13]

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/03/826219824/president-trump-says-cdc-now-recommends-americans-wear-cloth-masks-in-public

https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577

Results The rates of all infection outcomes were highest in the cloth mask arm, with the rate of ILI statistically significantly higher in the cloth mask arm (relative risk (RR)=13.00, 95% CI 1.69 to 100.07) compared with the medical mask arm. Cloth masks also had significantly higher rates of ILI compared with the control arm. An analysis by mask use showed ILI (RR=6.64, 95% CI 1.45 to 28.65) and laboratory-confirmed virus (RR=1.72, 95% CI 1.01 to 2.94) were significantly higher in the cloth masks group compared with the medical masks group. Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%.

Conclusions This study is the first RCT of cloth masks, and the results caution against the use of cloth masks. This is an important finding to inform occupational health and safety. Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection. Further research is needed to inform the widespread use of cloth masks globally. However, as a precautionary measure, cloth masks should not be recommended for HCWs, particularly in high-risk situations, and guidelines need to be updated.

lol

Face Masks don't do anything

[G13]

2wujFdGoe04

[Gravydoo II]

Now hes splitting hairs. Now its cloth masks, not real medical masks.

[G13]

Now hes splitting hairs. Now its cloth masks, not real medical masks.

Nobody is wearing real medical masks dipshit

You just proved my point - THANKS

[Horza]

Nobody is wearing real medical masks dipshit

You just proved my point - THANKS

https://i.imgur.com/9KXQJ52.gif

[reznor_]

Nobody is wearing real medical masks dipshit

You just proved my point - THANKS

Not gonna read 41 pages of drivel for an article that's been retracted. OP obviously can't differentiate between virus size and droplet size, the virus is preferentially carried in droplets. Redacted NIH article suggests the experiment itself was bad, which happens in science. Individual virus particles are unlikely to be exhaled as they are contained in droplets which are 1-10 microns, which get absorbed by paper or cloth material. Again, selective interpretation/reasoning at work here.

OPs Charles Bronson hero worship makes sense. I'm sure that "good old boy" would have something to say about facemasks too.

[G13]

Not gonna read 41 pages of drivel for an article that's been retracted. OP obviously can't differentiate between virus size and droplet size, the virus is preferentially carried in droplets. Redacted NIH article suggests the experiment itself was bad, which happens in science. Individual virus particles are unlikely to be exhaled as they are contained in droplets which are 1-10 microns, which get absorbed by paper or cloth material. Again, selective interpretation/reasoning at work here.

OPs Charles Bronson hero worship makes sense. I'm sure that "good old boy" would have something to say about facemasks too.

2wujFdGoe04

[G13]

https://i.imgur.com/9KXQJ52.gif

What percentage of the masks people are wearing are the N95 masks

[Horza]

He's stuck in a loop again.

[Jibartik]

I am. But Ill agree that few are.

love how that video of fauci is like, "yeah they help, and they help even more to prevent others from getting you sick, but dont wear them"

lol fucking stupid asses, everyone.

[Pulgasari]

What percentage of the masks people are wearing are the N95 masks

KN95 is my everyday cowl

[G13]

He's stuck in a loop again.

What percentage of the masks people are wearing are the N95 masks

[Pulgasari]

What percentage of the masks people are wearing are the N95 masks

looks like 100% of respondents so far, maybe make a poll if you actually want to know

[G13]

looks like 100% of respondents so far, maybe make a poll if you actually want to know

You're being silly

Nobody is wearing them and you know it

[Pulgasari]

You're being silly

Nobody is wearing them and you know it

Your imagination is fascinating

[G13]

Your imagination is fascinating

Stop smoking weed with Horza

[Ennewi]

https://www.onthisday.com/people/charles-bronson

Charles Bronson
Full Name: Charles Dennis Buchinsky
Profession: Actor
Died: August 30, 2003 (aged 81)
Cause of Death: Pneumonia

Common Causes of Pneumonia
Viruses, bacteria, and fungi can all cause pneumonia. In the United States, common causes of viral pneumonia are influenza, respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), and SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19). A common cause of bacterial pneumonia is Streptococcus pneumoniae (pneumococcus).

[FatherSioux]

What percentage of the masks people are wearing are the N95 masks

My guess would be less than 5%, wouldn’t be surprised to hear that it’s 1%

[Pulgasari]

https://www.onthisday.com/people/charles-bronson



Common Causes of Pneumonia
Viruses, bacteria, and fungi can all cause pneumonia. In the United States, common causes of viral pneumonia are influenza, respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), and SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19). A common cause of bacterial pneumonia is Streptococcus pneumoniae (pneumococcus).

Comorbidities like pneumonia don't count because I'm an adult illiterate

[Ennewi]

Comorbidities like pneumonia don't count because I'm an adult illiterate

https://www.redbubble.com/i/26235423.9G0D8 (https://www.redbubble.com/i/mask/Charles-Bronson-by-ObscureArt/26235423.9G0D8)

[G13]

https://www.onthisday.com/people/charles-bronson



Common Causes of Pneumonia
Viruses, bacteria, and fungi can all cause pneumonia. In the United States, common causes of viral pneumonia are influenza, respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), and SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19). A common cause of bacterial pneumonia is Streptococcus pneumoniae (pneumococcus).

Have you seen the current mortality rate from the WHO?

It's just The Flu

Everybody has been wearing a mask now for nothing

[HalflingSpergand]

:thumbs up: x2

[Gwaihir]

Do you want to share a shower with a gay man?

[Shawk]

Have you seen the current mortality rate from the WHO?

It's just The Flu

Everybody has been wearing a mask now for nothing

:thumbs up: x2

Do you want to share a shower with a gay man?

wearing a mask turns into taking a shower with a gay dude

fascinated

[G13]

wearing a mask turns into taking a shower with a gay dude

fascinated

Wearing a mask turns you into a gullible retard

They don't do anything

[Gwaihir]

wearing a mask turns into taking a shower with a gay dude

fascinated

Ahh, so you think gay men shouldn't be able to shower with you at the gym. Got it, bigot

[Gravydoo II]

When you say all government institutions are corrupt, science is unreliable, fake, fraudulent, full of fat cats, lol. Then post from the WHO, CDC, or any other scientific/government org/branch. Whoops.

Dude has got showering with gay dudes on the brain. Hes a christian so hes gonna want to hang onto that one for a while. He needs to give himself permission to think about it by pretending to scold someone else for being a bigot.

[HalflingSpergand]

Dork

[Gwaihir]

When you say all government institutions are corrupt, science is unreliable, fake, fraudulent, full of fat cats, lol. Then post from the WHO, CDC, or any other scientific/government org/branch. Whoops.

Dude has got showering with gay dudes on the brain. Hes a christian so hes gonna want to hang onto that one for a while. He needs to give himself permission to think about it by pretending to scold someone else for being a bigot.


Which vaccine did you take, shill? Show proof.

[Shawk]

Wearing a mask turns you into a gullible retard

They don't do anything

Ahh, so you think gay men shouldn't be able to shower with you at the gym. Got it, bigot

Dork

Which vaccine did you take, shill? Show proof.

You three need a nice cold shower together.

[HalflingSpergand]

Gay

[Byue]

I see the thread has evolved into the one liner, "gay" like we did in third grade.

Evolution takes us backwards I can see.

[HalflingSpergand]

Proof of God

[Gravydoo II]

Which vaccine did you take, shill? Show proof.

Im an antifa super soldier. My DNA was modified by the god emperor obama to make me resistant to all diseases that last most than 24 hours. I still get the shits from time to time though.

[Tethler]

That's not how it works. You're asking me to prove a negative.

You have to prove to me that the masks everyone has been running around wearing over the last year (cloth masks and store bought masks) stop the spread of Covid



Nope, you are making the claim in this thread that masks don't work. The burden of proof is on you.

[Toxigen]

who cares if they work or not?

just dont wear them

simple

[Tethler]

who cares if they work or not?

just dont wear them

simple

Or wear them

Simple

[Raev]

Nope, you are making the claim in this thread that masks don't work. The burden of proof is on you.

For the past 50,000 years people have been living together without masks. The burden of proof is clearly on the people who want to change this, i.e. you.

[indiscriminate_hater]

For the past 50,000 years people have been living together without masks. The burden of proof is clearly on the people who want to change this, i.e. you.

[Patriam1066]

We used to die from diarrhea all the time because we unknowingly drank one another’s feces water

I don’t think 50,000 years of human history (arbitrary time frame by the way) is as strong of evidence as you think it is. Christ, after all, only revealed himself two millennia ago

[Toxigen]

For the past 50,000 years people have been living together without masks. The burden of proof is clearly on the people who want to change this, i.e. you.

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[beargryllz]

Nope, you are making the claim in this thread that masks don't work. The burden of proof is on you.

Technically, the burden of proof is to demonstrate that masks work

The default is no mask

You're born without a mask

People have lived for millions of years without masks

[Patriam1066]

We also didn’t use to drink soda and eat McDonald’s

I’ll believe y’all’s sincerity more when you lose weight

[Pulgasari]

X29lF43mUlo

Too bad the native Americans didn't have this wiseass' advice.

[Raev]

I don’t think 50,000 years of human history (arbitrary time frame by the way) is as strong of evidence as you think it is.

Your mind is playing tricks on you! I didn't say "every single thing every person has been doing for the past 50,000 years is correct". Obviously, that would be dumb and progress is clearly possible. However, the burden of proof should obviously fall on the people proposing the new ideas to prove they are making things better, not worse. It's so self-evident I barely even know what else to say there. I would quote Chesterton's Fence but this concept is even more basic.

[Ennewi]

Technically, the burden of proof is to demonstrate that masks work

The default is no mask

You're born without a mask

People have lived for millions of years without masks

https://www.livescience.com/7968-human-evolution-origin-tool.html

[Gravydoo II]

They work. I dare you to get into a chemical biological or radiological situation without PPE. Why couldnt anyone construct this bet?? Mask man of culture on one side of bench. Covid man in middle. Caveman on other side. Sit there for 30 mins, shoulder to shoulder with covid man.

2 weeks, take covid test. If you die, you lose. If you test positive, you lose. If you test negative, you win.

Prize will be a shitty bass boat, bigass tires for a truck and or tractor, a box of logs of dip, fake pussy, and subframe connectors for a fox body, f body, or g body of your choice.

[Tethler]

Technically, the burden of proof is to demonstrate that masks work

The default is no mask

You're born without a mask

People have lived for millions of years without masks

Nope. OP is making a claim contrary to advice from infectious disease experts. As OP is not an infectious disease expert, he can show some evidence to refute experts if he wants to appear even remotely credible. (He won't, because he doesn't have any)

Yes, everyone is born without a mask, but that didn't stop the black death from wiping out half of Europe, dipshit.

[Byue]

Reality, what is it good for.

Absolutely nothing.

jackie chan dances away with chris rock

[Mblake1981]

Reality, what is it good for.

Absolutely nothing.

jackie chan dances away with chris rock

I'd like to drop-kick you from the top of High Keep :o

[Horza]

Mblake threatens physical violence on those he has disagreements with (in Minecraft).

[G13]

https://www.livescience.com/7968-human-evolution-origin-tool.html

It's "Science" until a Recall is triggered

lol

[G13]

Nope, you are making the claim in this thread that masks don't work. The burden of proof is on you.

They don't work

Ask Governor Newsom

[Tethler]

They don't work

Ask Governor Newsom

Is Governor Newsom an infectious disease expert? Politicians say whatever is politically convenient at the time, from both parties.

[Ennewi]

It's "Science" until a Retraction is triggered

lol

FTFY

[Gravydoo II]

I'd like to drop-kick you from the top of High Keep :o

he'd also like to put your kids in cages for some reason... He brings it up an awful lot. pedo gonna pedo.

[Toxigen]

imagine wearing a mask in 2021

[G13]

FTFY

Masks don't do anything

Ask Governor Newsom

Is Governor Newsom an infectious disease expert? Politicians say whatever is politically convenient at the time, from both parties.

The CDC was telling people to wear cloth masks a year ago

They don't do anything

It's ALL political. You and Ennewi are too retarded to understand that

[Ennewi]

Masks don't do anything

Ask Governor Newsom

https://govapps.gov.ca.gov/gov40mail/

[G13]

https://govapps.gov.ca.gov/gov40mail/

Butthurt confirmed

[Ennewi]

Butthurt confirmed

re·but·ter (rĭ-bŭt′ər)
n.
1. One who refutes or rebuts.

Noun 1. rebutter - a debater who refutes or disproves by offering contrary evidence or argument
confuter, disprover, refuter
arguer, debater - someone who engages in debate

[G13]

re·but·ter (rĭ-bŭt′ər)
n.
1. One who refutes or rebuts.

Noun 1. rebutter - a debater who refutes or disproves by offering contrary evidence or argument
confuter, disprover, refuter
arguer, debater - someone who engages in debate

Butthurt Confirmed

Triggered Recall > Mask "Science"

[Ennewi]

Butthurt Confirmed

Triggered Recall > Mask "Science"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_assertion

Proof by assertion, sometimes informally referred to as proof by repeated assertion, is an informal fallacy in which a proposition is repeatedly restated regardless of contradiction and refutation.[1] Sometimes, this may be repeated until challenges dry up, at which point it is asserted as fact due to its not being contradicted (argumentum ad nauseam).[2] In other cases, its repetition may be cited as evidence of its truth, in a variant of the appeal to authority or appeal to belief fallacies.[3]

See also
Philosophy portal
Argumentum ad lapidem
Big lie
Circular reasoning
Denialism
Ipse dixit
On Bullshit
Talking point
Woozle effect

[G13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_assertion

Butthurt Confirmed

Triggered Recall > Mask "Science"

[Ennewi]

Butthurt Confirmed

Triggered Recall > Mask "Science"

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324844

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[G13]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324844

You're so butthurt

It's painful to watch

BTW did you know that triggered recalls have a tendency to change mask "science"?

[Horza]

Looks like he's stuck in a loop again.

[Ennewi]

Isaac Asimov's Corollary to Clarke's First Law: "When, however, the lay public rallies round an idea that is denounced by distinguished but elderly scientists and supports that idea with great fervour and emotion – the distinguished but elderly scientists are then, after all, probably right."

Once more, with feeling!

[G13]

Looks like he's stuck in a loop again.

14554

[Pulgasari]

BTW did you know that triggered recalls have a tendency to change mask "science"?

Inslee lifted the mask mandate too, west coast is a team

[Toxigen]

if you're wearing a mask in 2021 you're retarded

[Ennewi]

if you're wearing a mask in 2021 you're retarded

Said no one in India.

[G13]

Said no one in India.

Believing that a mask would solve that problem is even more retarded than wearing one in 2021

[Horza]

if you're wearing a mask in 2021 you're retarded

Let's hope this attitude doesn't alienate the suburban voters Republicans need to retake the House and Senate in the upcoming midterms.

[Gustoo]

Prize will be a shitty bass boat, bigass tires for a truck and or tractor, a box of logs of dip, fake pussy, and subframe connectors for a fox body, f body, or g body of your choice.

hehe

[Shawk]

They work. I dare you to get into a chemical biological or radiological situation without PPE. Why couldnt anyone construct this bet?? Mask man of culture on one side of bench. Covid man in middle. Caveman on other side. Sit there for 30 mins, shoulder to shoulder with covid man.

2 weeks, take covid test. If you die, you lose. If you test positive, you lose. If you test negative, you win.

Prize will be a shitty bass boat, bigass tires for a truck and or tractor, a box of logs of dip, fake pussy, and subframe connectors for a fox body, f body, or g body of your choice.

There it is G13, your chance to die a hero and go to your inbred version of valhalla.

[Ennewi]

Believing that a mask would solve that problem is even more retarded than wearing one in 2021

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56206004

27 February
"People here have been not wearing masks. They have been attending unregulated mass gatherings such as marriages and campaigns for local elections. There is free intermingling of people, carriers are not getting isolated, and testing and tracking is low. This has led to this situation," Dr Sanjay Oak, a member of the state's Covid task force, told the BBC.

It's not just Maharashtra where cases have grown recently. Some areas in Kerala, Karnataka, Telangana, Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh and Punjab states have also reported surges. This comes at a time when much of India is reporting a sharp fall in cases - with daily infections for the county falling to less than 20,000 from a peak of over 90,000 in September.

And that has baffled scientists, disease modellers and epidemiologist. The most common reasons given for the spikes in some states are the same as in Maharashtra - big weddings, people not wearing masks, reopening of cinema halls, gyms and swimming pools, and large political rallies in states like West Bengal where elections are due soon.

[G13]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56206004

Doesn't prove they do anything

India is in the top 10 of purchased vaccines in the entire world

Not to mention the absolute environmental disaster a billion+ discarded masks would be in that country

[Ennewi]

Doesn't prove they do anything

Alarti would be proud.

India is in the top 10 of purchased vaccines in the entire world

The population of India is 1.366 billion (2019)
The population of the United States of America is 328.2 million (2019)

Not to mention the absolute environmental disaster a billion+ discarded masks would be in that country

It must be Groundhog Day again. That point was made earlier in this thread...

But just for argument's sake, even if masks only provide a false sense of security, consider the general public's track record with most any uncertainty faced just within the past two decades and then take into account the other news stories...

https://abc7chicago.com/easter-egg-hunt-shoving-orange-connecticut/1265195/

https://www.cbc.ca/archives/when-the-tickle-me-elmo-toy-craze-led-to-a-trampling-1.4921367

Cut to 2020's hand sanitizer and toilet paper shortages.

An adult pacifier that encourages people to talk less and avoid interacting with each other isn't exactly a bad thing. And, to my knowledge, the only harm has been from littering.

...but disregarded because consumer behavior apparently has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

If you can find a study that shows the Covid virus is 1000 times larger than what is currently known, please provide it

Otherwise, the rest of your post is an admission that masks don't do anything, but people need to be controlled because they want to buy an Elmo doll

Admittedly though, dogs would have been a more affective example to use instead of dolls.

https://www.petplace.com/article/dogs/just-for-fun/animal-shelters-fear-rise-in-homeless-dalmatians-after-102-dalmatians/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2019/game-thrones-fans-love-direwolves-may-hurt-huskies (https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2019/05/17/game-thrones-fans-love-direwolves-may-hurt-huskies/3705277002/)

[G13]

Alarti would be proud.



The population of India is 1.366 billion (2019)
The population of the United States of America is 328.2 million (2019)



It must be Groundhog Day again. That point was made earlier in this thread...



...but disregarded because consumer behavior apparently has nothing to do with the topic at hand.



Admittedly though, dogs would have been a more affective example to use instead of dolls.

https://www.petplace.com/article/dogs/just-for-fun/animal-shelters-fear-rise-in-homeless-dalmatians-after-102-dalmatians/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2019/game-thrones-fans-love-direwolves-may-hurt-huskies (https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2019/05/17/game-thrones-fans-love-direwolves-may-hurt-huskies/3705277002/)

You really put in a lot of effort in that post without realizing the vast majority of Covid Infections do not occur in public places

You really are retarded

[Raev]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56206004

No doubt during the 1600s Dr Sanjay Gupta would be wearing a different kind of robe and busily boiling salamanders and burning women who looked at him sideways at the stake for witchcraft.

Fortunately, in the modern age we do scientific experiments, which clearly show that Gupta is a quack and masks do not prevent COVID transmission (https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/m20-6817).

[Ennewi]

You really put in a lot of effort in that post without realizing the vast majority of Covid Infections do not occur in public places

Writing an article takes a lot of effort. Reading and linking an article takes very little effort. Making a blanket statement, without including any evidence to support it, takes almost no effort at all. A generalization accounts only for what is passively observed rather than what is actively investigated. And, as with anything unspecific, it requires a disclaimer or certain concessions after the fact.

Lawrence : Damn straight. I always wanted to do that, man. And I think if I were a millionaire I could hook that up, too; 'cause chicks dig dudes with money.
Peter Gibbons : Well, not all chicks.
Lawrence : Well, the type of chicks that'd double up on a dude like me do.

So when is a space public and when is it private? Are the two always distinctly separate? If not, where do the transitions occur? There are, after all, private beaches and public restrooms. Private acts are also easily accomplished in public, on airplanes and in dressing rooms. Public spaces also vary greatly from culture to culture, due to a number of factors, not excluding architecture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoji

And then there is the matter of pseudo-public spaces.

https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/art-architecture-design/you-cant-sit-us-rise-privately-owned-public-spaces

Privately-owned public spaces, or ‘PoPs’, are on the rise and have silently infiltrated cities worldwide. In fact, you might use one day-to-day without even knowing – and there could be more to come.

On the surface, these pseudo-public spaces can look like any other accessible space like a park, open square or throughway. But in fact, they don’t fall under the jurisdiction of the local government. They’re owned and operated by private developers or private companies.

“Public space is publicly-owned space, where people have fairly broad rights linked to values of democracy and freedom of expression,” says urban designer and landscape architect Dr Mike Harris from UNSW Built Environment.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7307066/

The mayor predicted that the market would attract a lot more visitors than other markets in the region, since the weekly marketplace of Valkenswaard is one the biggest in the region … The marketplace has many narrow streets where people queue up. That is a risk. The mayor expected that it would be impossible for community service officers [BOA’s] to maintain the order of one‐and‐a‐half metres distancing. (Interview April 2020)

Quite suddenly, however, in the midst of this temporary death of the marketplace − during which all socio‐economic interactions came to a standstill for two weeks − the market manager informed all the traders on their collective Facebook‐page that the mayor had revoked his earlier decision to completely close down the market until 2 April, as also reported in a regional newspaper:

The last two weeks, the market has been called off completely. In an amended [spatial] layout, however, the market is allowed to continue… In the case of Valkenswaard, only 24 food pitches will be set up instead of the 75 market pitches that are available during a fully occupied market. The market pitches will be set up in such a way that visitors have enough space to keep a distance from each other. Only food products are allowed for sale. Moreover, people are not allowed to consume their products on the market terrain. (van den Eijnden 2020)

The visitor conflates a ‘real’ market, characterised by the uproar and muttering of people moving around – that is, fleeting forms of ‘rubbing along’, such as connecting, lingering and taking pleasure in the shared commons (Watson 2009, p. 1589) – with a ‘controlled’ market of separated market pitches and dividing lines where people are constantly conscious of, and on their guard against, unexpected movements and social interactions. This separation is important, as people seem to derive their sense of ‘real’ marketplaces from their easy sociality that either incorporates or challenges the definition of the situation being proposed. As such, the breakdown of the physical conditions of marketplaces that facilitate the chaotic and unpredictable forms of social interactions in the form of open regions (Goffman 1963) indeed reveals, as Latham and Layton (2019) have argued, their transparency in the development of people’s sense of reflexive awareness and common experience of community and belonging.

In many municipalities, markets have been closed down … We absolutely do not understand these decisions. I do not think that anyone understands these decisions. The current corona crisis is horrible and the national regulations are judicious. But they have to be proportionate. Why can shops remain open, while the ambulant trade has to close down? […] We will go the court to complain about this, not because markets have been closed down per se, but because of the irrational way in which this has happened. It is completely, utterly, random! (CVAH, 2020b original emphasis)

Here, it becomes clear that the decisions to close down the markets are in themselves not considered as illegitimate, but rather the disproportionate way in which these decisions had been taken; arousing uncertainty for the economic vitality of traders’ businesses. Media coverage especially focused on the vulnerability of markets, quoting traders that face difficulties in these times of corona. For example, a fishmonger from Spakenburg complained about the long‐term financial consequences of the ad hoc decisions of safety regions to close down marketplaces without being notified in advance: ‘Six of the ten marketplaces where I use to trade on a weekly basis have been cancelled. This is going to cost me ten thousand euros’ (Rijnmond 2020b). Corroborating these personal statements, the executive director of CVAH explained that he received hundreds of calls and emails of concerned traders throughout the whole country ‘who had returned from the vegetables and fruit auction halls with their cars fully packed with merchandise worth ten thousand euros for the coming days, before they discovered that the markets were closed down. These are extraordinary financial setbacks.’ (CVAH 2020b).

By analysing this process from the ground level in one of our main fieldwork sites, the marketplace of Valkenswaard, we found that the representation of the market as ‘unsafe’ morphed into a vision that conceived of the market as a vulnerable yet vital part of the food chain to justify its re‐opening. During this process, the marketplace lost its status as a social infrastructure (Klinenberg 2018) and transformed into a ‘sanitised’ (Smith 1998) or ‘prickly’ (Flusty 1997) public space of rational and immediate economic interactions. In addition, the strict regulatory framework that reduced the physical conditions of easy sociality, or ‘rubbing along’ (Watson 2009), also engendered new forms of social interaction and trading, which poignantly lay bare the mutual interdependencies of people in marketplaces as one of the most critical public spaces in cities and villages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tijdschrift_voor_economische_en_sociale_geografie

The Tijdschrift voor economische en sociale geografie (English: Journal of Economic & Social Geography) is a peer-reviewed academic journal published by Wiley-Blackwell on behalf of the Royal Dutch Geographical Society. The editor-in-chief is Frank van Oort (Erasmus University Rotterdam). The journal focuses on contemporary issues in human geography, with articles relating to economic, social, cultural and political geographical themes. It journal was established in 1910, making it the oldest journal in human geography.[1]

[Raev]

They work. I dare you to get into a chemical biological or radiological situation without PPE. Why couldnt anyone construct this bet?? Mask man of culture on one side of bench. Covid man in middle. Caveman on other side. Sit there for 30 mins, shoulder to shoulder with covid man.

2 weeks, take covid test. If you die, you lose.

This test was actually done (https://www.jstor.org/stable/30082102?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents) back in 1919 when men were men. They pureed the lungs of people who had died of influenza and sprayed it into the noses of healthy volunteers. Nothing happened. In fact there were quite a few experiments done (https://northerntracey213875959.wordpress.com/2021/02/22/contagion-a-fairy-story/) and all came up negative.

[Ennewi]

masks do not prevent COVID transmission (https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/m20-6817).

Sample Size Calculations
The sample size was determined to provide adequate power for assessment of the combined composite primary outcome in the intention-to-treat analysis. Authorities estimated an incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection of at least 2% during the study period.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7217796/

Denmark, a Scandinavian country of 5.8 million people has weathered the Covid-19 crisis with a relatively low rate of infection and death. Denmark has also become one of the first European countries to partially re-open its society. We offer the perspective that the combination of rapid response from the government, trust and a high level of confidence in government by Danish citizens, and the importance of social heritage contributed to the effective management of the coronavirus crisis.

Danish success in coping with the Covid-19 crisis can also be attributed to their social heritage and traditions. Indeed, as a French citizen, it is easy to compare the important social differences existing between Denmark and other southern European countries like France. Although the Danes are extremely friendly, they respect all year long what is called these days “social distancing” - the most important approach to reduce virus transmission. Indeed, as compared to Italians, French and Spanish, Danish people have few physical contacts. They do give hugs, but only to close family members or friends; they do not shake hands; they do not kiss each other to say hello; and generally speaking, they like to keep a decent social distance on public transportation and in other public places. The opposite is true in the southern European countries where physical interactions are the cement of relationships amongst family, friends and colleagues.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90582981/forget-hygge-the-danish-concept-we-need-now-is-samfundssind

In March 2020, at the start of the pandemic, Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen urged all Danes to show samfundssind, which means to consider the needs of society above your own. In English, it roughly translates to community spirit, civic engagement, or civic-mindedness.

Since then, relative to the U.S. and the rest of Europe, Denmark has done quite well responding to the coronavirus, with low rates of infections and deaths and high rates of compliance with preventative guidelines. And research shows that—regardless of their gender or age—Danes are more concerned about infecting others than getting infected themselves.