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Cecily
03-07-2021, 10:14 PM
Theres a saying that everything you say before "but" means nothing. Is it true here? Find out at 11
In this case, the apology means nothing and the rest is just an excuse to laugh at the catfishing again. Hope that helps <3

Horza
03-07-2021, 10:15 PM
Uh oh someone catch me up.

https://i.imgur.com/ci0xbHH.jpg

Bearsnowls
03-07-2021, 10:17 PM
haha thanks

Arteker
03-07-2021, 10:25 PM
Yours is a CHA boost because you're hilarious and I love you. I've never had trouble understanding you.

i wonder if its agaisnt the tos of rogean if i post a old clip of me , faz , derranged mode loly ,stoned as fuck olidaen having a conversation about the posibilitys of a alien porn tv channel then that priest from maine gettin into channel and calling me degenerate .... just for me to go full maniac and explain her the proper way her GF should perform oral sex for her.i recall loly puked on middle of my speech.

The good old times

Tentarro
03-07-2021, 10:27 PM
I don't think it's an outlier that was my life experience too.

Still has nothing to do with what I'm talking about at all.

Tentarro
03-07-2021, 10:33 PM
Yep. Religion is about the dumbest thing anyone can subject themselves to. An entire philosophy that tells you it's a virtue to believe unbelievable shit unconditionally? It's all a god damned cognitive stop sign that says, "Do not think past this point."


Respect is validating that the other person is in fact, another person, with hopes, dreams, fears and agency, just like you. So be fucking respectful you dumbfuck.


Right back at you, dumbfuck.

1. Supreme Atheist here, back again trying to educate anyone about religion the incorrect way because he's a dumbfuck.

Religion is a morality tool designed for the NPCs like you who live life via reaction, who cannot be trusted to do the right thing, so a figure of almighty creation or judgement has to be put in place before you so that you do the right thing without question.

2. You don't need to respect another person at all, you will never engage with most of the people you ever see, and only about 1% of the people you do engage with (well not you, since you're an EQ-addicted shut in) will actually drive you to respect them. Be polite, not respectful.

3. Hurr durr reusing my insult.

So, if we’re not allowed to tell kids about sex before high school, who’s fault is it if babies happen before then? Can hardly blame the kiddos for their ignorance right?

How would the situation even arise where you're surrounded by 12/13 year olds who are having sex? What the fuck is this hypothetical? Why are you so adverse to people holding responsibility over their children and their actions?

Ravager
03-07-2021, 10:33 PM
Still has nothing to do with what I'm talking about at all.

That's good. Nobody wants anything to do with what you're talking about at all.

Arteker
03-07-2021, 10:33 PM
1. Supreme Atheist here, back again trying to educate anyone about religion the incorrect way because he's a dumbfuck.

Religion is a morality tool designed for the NPCs like you who live life via reaction, who cannot be trusted to do the right thing, so a figure of almighty creation or judgement has to be put in place before you so that you do the right thing without question.

2. You don't need to respect another person at all, you will never engage with most of the people you ever see, and only about 1% of the people you do engage with (well not you, since you're an EQ-addicted shut in) will actually drive you to respect them. Be polite, not respectful.

3. Hurr durr reusing my insult.
you need to get laid more often,


How would the situation even arise where you're surrounded by 12/13 year olds who are having sex? What the fuck is this hypothetical? Why are you so adverse to people holding responsibility over their children and their actions?

Horza
03-07-2021, 10:35 PM
Calling people that you have political disagreements with NPCs is so 2019.

Tentarro
03-07-2021, 10:36 PM
That's good. Nobody wants anything to do with what you're talking about at all.

Why are you latching onto my posts like a meth addict is latching onto the guy's balls who hired her for a "good time"?

Ravager
03-07-2021, 10:40 PM
1. Supreme Atheist here, back again trying to educate anyone about religion the incorrect way because he's a dumbfuck.

Religion is a morality tool designed for the NPCs like you who live life via reaction, who cannot be trusted to do the right thing, so a figure of almighty creation or judgement has to be put in place before you so that you do the right thing without question.
What? NPC like me? I'd trust my morals over yours. My morals come from reasoned thinking about how things actually are, because I bother to stop and look at things and think. You just regurgitate the rhetoric of other dumbfucks.


2. You don't need to respect another person at all, you will never engage with most of the people you ever see, and only about 1% of the people you do engage with (well not you, since you're an EQ-addicted shut in) will actually drive you to respect them. Be polite, not respectful.
Apparently you don't need to, but you are an asshole.


3. Hurr durr reusing my insult.
Nope, you're just too stupid to recognize irony. Hope that helps.

Horza
03-07-2021, 10:40 PM
Why are you latching onto my posts like a meth addict is latching onto the guy's balls who hired her for a "good time"?

Some people can recognize delicious, low-hanging fruit when they see it.

Ravager
03-07-2021, 10:41 PM
Why are you latching onto my posts like a meth addict is latching onto the guy's balls who hired her for a "good time"?

Right back at you.

Shadeynight
03-07-2021, 10:51 PM
How would the situation even arise where you're surrounded by 12/13 year olds who are having sex? What the fuck is this hypothetical? Why are you so adverse to people holding responsibility over their children and their actions?

So wait, would you only tell the kids smoking crack that drugs are bad?

Cassawary
03-07-2021, 11:07 PM
I'd trust my morals over yours. My morals come from reasoned thinking about how things actually are, because I bother to stop and look at things and think.

Morality is inherently irrational.

Tentarro
03-07-2021, 11:11 PM
What? NPC like me? I'd trust my morals over yours. My morals come from reasoned thinking about how things actually are, because I bother to stop and look at things and think. You just regurgitate the rhetoric of other dumbfucks.


Apparently you don't need to, but you are an asshole.


Nope, you're just too stupid to recognize irony. Hope that helps.

1. You are being (doubtful it's willful) ignorant of everything I said.

2. Ok and?

3. Stop posting here you look like a moron.

Tentarro
03-07-2021, 11:15 PM
So wait, would you only tell the kids smoking crack that drugs are bad?

D.A.R.E. did nothing to help prevent teens, children, and adolescents from doing drugs and in fact, only piqued their interest in it more.

But disregarding that, trying to equate that to what I'm saying doesn't really work considering one is addiction and the other is drugs.

Rader
03-07-2021, 11:33 PM
Indifference to racism is racism ^^^^

I am very indifferent to snowflake snivels

Swish
03-07-2021, 11:36 PM
{If you're black or hispanic and rich I'm sure the state and church will both tell you abortion is murder.

Huge assumptions being made :o

Reddarok
03-07-2021, 11:50 PM
If it helps clear anything up, you all seem stupid.

isiah
03-08-2021, 12:14 AM
If it helps clear anything up, you all seem stupid.

yes

Tentarro
03-08-2021, 03:31 AM
If it helps clear anything up, you all seem stupid.

What do you mean? We're 77 pages into this thread, it couldn't possibly be that everyone here is stupid at the same time?

Midoo
03-08-2021, 07:08 AM
an utterly legendary thread

Ravager
03-08-2021, 09:38 AM
Morality is inherently irrational.

Please explain what you mean by this.

In terms of preferred outcomes for a thinking mind living in a world of other, similar thinking minds, morality is quite rational.

In a completely physical sense, the universe is indeed indifferent. Physics doesn't care whether you live or die or prosper or suffer. But that doesn't make being indifferent about stuff "right". Especially if there are any particular future outcomes you'd prefer to see come to pass.

Besides, rationality is basically just counting things. Irrationality is only counting some things and not others whether on purpose or by mistake. Rationalization is making up excuses why you only count some things and ignore others. Morality can be counted.

Ravager
03-08-2021, 09:44 AM
Huge assumptions being made :o

Sorry Swish, I forgot you need pictures to read. I'll add some to help indicate it was a joke. :p:o:rolleyes:;):cool::D:)

Nexii
03-08-2021, 10:23 AM
I still think it's hilarous how Detoxx said to not share your personal life if you're LGBT. Whereas everyone knows he once delivered pizza for a living, has stepkids, got married, and just had another kid.

Cecily
03-08-2021, 10:50 AM
There's another lesson you missed growing up as a cishet white male oppressor: double standards are for the benefit of the dominant majority. This is not you, nor is it fair.

Nirgon
03-08-2021, 11:36 AM
I still think it's hilarous how Detoxx said to not share your personal life if you're LGBT. Whereas everyone knows he once delivered pizza for a living, has stepkids, got married, and just had another kid.

God damned toxic breeders and their..... delivering pizzas in a previous job

Nibblewitz
03-08-2021, 11:43 AM
Some people lose their minds over words and some people don’t.

OuterChimp
03-08-2021, 12:08 PM
f in chat as this one has taken on a life of its own...

Nirgon
03-08-2021, 12:23 PM
Detoxx gotta have 1700+ ac by now and that on top of being based is killing some brains on betabox

Tentarro
03-08-2021, 12:34 PM
I still think it's hilarous how Detoxx said to not share your personal life if you're LGBT. Whereas everyone knows he once delivered pizza for a living, has stepkids, got married, and just had another kid.

Sounds like things that are relatable in a gaming community and not a deviation from the norm that others can't relate to.

zodium
03-08-2021, 12:40 PM
Sounds like things that are relatable in a gaming community and not a deviation from the norm that others can't relate to.

lol

Cassawary
03-08-2021, 12:54 PM
Please explain what you mean by this.

In terms of preferred outcomes for a thinking mind living in a world of other, similar thinking minds, morality is quite rational.

In a completely physical sense, the universe is indeed indifferent. Physics doesn't care whether you live or die or prosper or suffer. But that doesn't make being indifferent about stuff "right". Especially if there are any particular future outcomes you'd prefer to see come to pass.

Besides, rationality is basically just counting things. Irrationality is only counting some things and not others whether on purpose or by mistake. Rationalization is making up excuses why you only count some things and ignore others. Morality can be counted.

There can be no morality without divine authority, it's just the words of the current men in power that have no other legal backing.

Without a final arbiter all your axioms are paperweights. :p

Nirgon
03-08-2021, 01:12 PM
Oh man I hope we get into existential dilemmas in here and someone's brain gets sucked into that black hole.

Snortles Chortles
03-08-2021, 01:14 PM
https://i.imgur.com/vCn114s.gif

Nirgon
03-08-2021, 01:17 PM
Others believe an existential crisis is actually a good thing—a burden of gifted individuals and deep thinkers that sets them apart from those who don’t think deeply about life


If you consider yourself an intellectual, you should explore these topics. As you delve deeper, ask yourself, am I immune to existential dread? Recommended int of 134+.

Snortles Chortles
03-08-2021, 01:20 PM
https://i.imgur.com/NmBYlsS.jpg

Tentarro
03-08-2021, 01:20 PM
If you consider yourself an intellectual, you should explore these topics. As you delve deeper, ask yourself, am I immune to existential dread? Recommended int of 134+.

I wish there was a guild of other high INT players that banded together in a psuedo-RP environment where you could pretend to be the master race of EQ and hopefully, potentially, not be called racist by people who are missing the point.

Nirgon
03-08-2021, 01:22 PM
Yeah well what're you gonna do. Can't have that or any classic raid clickies.

Snortles Chortles
03-08-2021, 01:22 PM
The High Elf can be seen as arrogant, and they see no race equal or better than them. Treating the Wood Elves as servants; Humans , Gnomes , and Halflings as worth of presence; and Dwarves , Barbarians , and Erudites are bearable, it seems difficult to become friends with a High Elf.

Toxigen
03-08-2021, 01:27 PM
https://i.imgur.com/aJGxmfI.jpg

Nirgon
03-08-2021, 01:28 PM
https://www.healthline.com/health/existential-dread#accept-uncertainty


Hold fast to dreams,
For if dreams die,
Life is a broken-winged bird
That cannot fly.
Hold fast to dreams.
For if dreams go,
Life is a barren field
Covered with snow.


- Langston Hughes

(I can link him without petitions? Guy was way smarter than the woke dingbats in here.)

Tentarro
03-08-2021, 01:28 PM
Yeah well what're you gonna do. Can't have that or any classic raid clickies.

Could swear there are Blizzard devs among us.

Fun? KILLED
Barely-edgy Humor? KILLED


The High Elf can be seen as arrogant, and they see no race equal or better than them. Treating the Wood Elves as servants; Humans , Gnomes , and Halflings as worth of presence; and Dwarves , Barbarians , and Erudites are bearable, it seems difficult to become friends with a High Elf.

Iksar is the master race from a gameplay standpoint but from lore it's the Erudites because they bombed each other so fucking hard they woke up Brell and he got angry so he took a dump inside The Hole and now we have an angry turd trying to kill us.

zodium
03-08-2021, 02:01 PM
lmao

Horza
03-08-2021, 02:05 PM
Not your immature, edgy sense of humor! What will the other junior high school students think of you?

Tentarro
03-08-2021, 02:08 PM
Not your immature, edgy sense of humor! What will the other junior high school students think of you?

Sorry mate but if you can't laugh at literally anything you might be a bitch.

Bardp1999
03-08-2021, 02:19 PM
wHorza reverting to calling people middle schoolers

Horza
03-08-2021, 02:19 PM
Sorry mate but if you can't laugh at literally anything you might be a bitch.

I'm laughing at Detoxx telling people not to share personal details while going on about his stepkids and his exciting pizza delivery job.

Tentarro
03-08-2021, 02:20 PM
I'm laughing at Detoxx telling people not to share personal details while going on about his stepkids and his exciting pizza delivery job.

Relatable experiences VS. Abnormalities that .6% can relate to.

Horza
03-08-2021, 02:22 PM
Relatable like your favorite racist parody guild disbanded by the server administrators?

Snortles Chortles
03-08-2021, 02:27 PM
tbf iTs more likely the administrators got tired of incessant complaints from sensitive player base and Agatha/Phil trolling official discord

versus

muh racis guild

Tentarro
03-08-2021, 02:29 PM
Relatable like your favorite racist parody guild disbanded by the server administrators?

Look! He's trying to conflate two different issues to equate them in a way that doesn't make sense!

They were more fun than the other guilds out there, I never joined or talked to them, since I haven't made a Erudite, my friend did and from what they told me/whispers I read/their Discord, it looked like a "Erudite is the master race" RP guild to me. They referred to each other as "brothers" more in a cult sense than the way you want it to be.

Why do you have all this internal racism that you have to try and pin it on others?

zodium
03-08-2021, 02:31 PM
tbf iTs more likely the administrators got tired of incessant complaints from sensitive player base and Agatha/Phil trolling official discord

versus

muh racis guild

owned

Horza
03-08-2021, 02:33 PM
tbf iTs more likely the administrators got tired of incessant complaints from sensitive player base and Agatha/Phil trolling official discord

I only care about the results.

Nirgon
03-08-2021, 02:41 PM
tbf iTs more likely the administrators got tired of incessant complaints from sensitive player base and Agatha/Phil trolling official discord

versus

muh racis guild

interesting, any theories about soulfire, bladestopper, prayers changes and bag limits?

Ravager
03-08-2021, 02:43 PM
There can be no morality without divine authority, it's just the words of the current men in power that have no other legal backing.

Without a final arbiter all your axioms are paperweights. :p

Observation is the final arbiter. I live without divine authority every day. I have no fear of an eternal hell nor do I do good things for promise of eternal happiness. Both are a lie and a sham. I argue for equality for all and abhor violence and murder. I am as honest a person as you're likely to find and cannot bring myself to take advantage of someone else for my own gain. Given all that, I probably possess a higher moral standard than any who would call themselves "righteous".

But keep pretending magic is real. Just don't cry when it fails you.

Snortles Chortles
03-08-2021, 02:46 PM
gee, competing factions of players incapable of coming together to compete against market leader elf faction, so complain instead to management (LOL?)

in business world
teams unable to work within our org to achieve common goals get laid off
hope this outsider view helps
siP

Tentarro
03-08-2021, 03:12 PM
gee, competing factions of players incapable of coming together to compete against market leader elf faction, so complain instead to management (LOL?)

in business world
teams unable to work within our org to achieve common goals get laid off
hope this outsider view helps
siP

I play an Iksar so I'm not supposed to play nice with others

Cassawary
03-08-2021, 03:13 PM
Observation is the final arbiter. I live without divine authority every day. I have no fear of an eternal hell nor do I do good things for promise of eternal happiness. Both are a lie and a sham. I argue for equality for all and abhor violence and murder. I am as honest a person as you're likely to find and cannot bring myself to take advantage of someone else for my own gain. Given all that, I probably possess a higher moral standard than any who would call themselves "righteous".

But keep pretending magic is real. Just don't cry when it fails you.

What makes those things good?

Snortles Chortles
03-08-2021, 03:17 PM
I play an Iksar so I'm not supposed to play nice with others

i was referring to competing guilds below S tier

Toxigen
03-08-2021, 03:21 PM
Apes together strong.

Tentarro
03-08-2021, 03:24 PM
i was referring to competing guilds below S tier

So every guild that isn't DMO?

Snortles Chortles
03-08-2021, 03:27 PM
**as a guildless solo player

The story as I understand it is, every guild not seal team/dmo complained about trakanon

VS

banding together to contest and instead complain to GMs

it would appear a pattern of complain to the GMs produces more results than inter guild cooperation

hope this clears up any misconceptions

Bardp1999
03-08-2021, 03:33 PM
My dear bald diabetic friend, what you have failed to realize is the top guild was locking content down in a way where competition was impossible unless you and 30 of your closest elf pals made P99 a 60 hour per week job.

Also congratz on no one wanting you in a guild and playing EQ solo - very normal and cool

Snortles Chortles
03-08-2021, 03:43 PM
top guild was locking content down in a way where competition was impossible

please describe how competition is impossible

my dear obese middle aged elf, are you suggesting that if competing guilds banded together to contest the top server guild, they would still fail?

when I feel like grouping, i have no problem assembling a team of like minded elves

just seems odd to me that competing guilds were unable to achieve a similar result versus the top server guild

Delekhan
03-08-2021, 04:00 PM
They band together quite often, actually. Every once in a while it works.

Toxigen
03-08-2021, 04:02 PM
https://i.imgur.com/i2QpULe.png

Tunabros
03-08-2021, 04:57 PM
another green thread infested with blue players complaining about freedom

Nirgon
03-08-2021, 05:03 PM
Not sure if EverQuest is really for this generation, and less so for each after this.

Make ya think dont it.

zodium
03-08-2021, 05:05 PM
lol

Horza
03-08-2021, 05:06 PM
Not sure if EverQuest is really for this generation, and less so for each after this.

Make ya think dont it.

Nirgon's tears sustain me in these trying times.

Ravager
03-08-2021, 05:12 PM
What makes those things good?

Is there a particular thing you have a problem with me calling good? Or are you trying to pose a "gotcha" question to prove my morals are inconsistent without a divine influence? I'll answer anyway.

In a nutshell, good things are preferred outcomes. Bad things are un-preferred outcomes. I, personally, would prefer everyone got along, gave each other the space to learn and grow and also that they'd help each other when needed. Now that's just me, but it's likely a preferred outcome of most healthy people because most healthy people have other people they care about and those ideals also take a long view. Humanity can't be selfish if it wishes to sustain itself into the future, (which I'm taking as a given that it's in everyone's self interest to survive and thrive).

We can help each other, or we can destroy each other. Only one of those things brings about the preferred outcome most healthy people have of surviving and thriving. So that's what makes those things good.

Now if you need a divine authority to see what's good in your own mind, you're either over-thinking things, come from a troubled background where you just haven't learned any better, or are a genuinely scary person because once that mental block is gone you're going on a murder spree. If it's the latter, keep reading the good book please.

Yinein
03-08-2021, 05:14 PM
Imagine still going on and on through 83 pages with no warder loot. Hope that helps.

Ravager
03-08-2021, 05:17 PM
Imagine still going on and on through 83 pages with no warder loot. Hope that helps.

I still wanna know what's so special about this warder loot and what you've got that should make me impressed. I HAVE TO KNOW!

Yinein
03-08-2021, 05:19 PM
I still wanna know what's so special about this warder loot and what you've got that should make me impressed. I HAVE TO KNOW!

Imagine not knowing, sorry you dont got warder loot.

Ravager
03-08-2021, 05:25 PM
Imagine not knowing, sorry you dont got warder loot.

Nah. I really don't care. Warder loot on a dead server is pointless.

Yinein
03-08-2021, 05:28 PM
Nah. I really don't care. Warder loot on a dead server is pointless.

Im sorry you dont got. Consider green. Hope that helps.

Ravager
03-08-2021, 05:32 PM
Im sorry you dont got. Consider green. Hope that helps.

I do play on green the few times a year I play. It's fun. What's your main? I alternate between a High Elf Enchanter named Eldrian and a Dark Elf Necromancer named Malvak. Maybe we can adventure together into Unrest and win some experience points.

Yinein
03-08-2021, 05:33 PM
I do play on green the few times a year I play. It's fun. What's your main? I alternate between a High Elf Enchanter named Eldrian and a Dark Elf Necromancer named Malvak. Maybe we can adventure together into Unrest and win some experience points.

Sorry you will fail on multiple servers. Hope that helps. Consider logging off.

Tentarro
03-08-2021, 05:41 PM
Not sure if EverQuest is really for this generation, and less so for each after this.

Make ya think dont it.

Nothing makes me think, my mind is like a steel trap.

Yes I play on Red, why do you ask?

Yinein
03-08-2021, 05:49 PM
Nothing makes me think, my mind is like a steel trap.

Yes I play on Red, why do you ask?

No one plays on red, its a dead server. Hope that helps.

Ravager
03-08-2021, 06:02 PM
Sorry you will fail on multiple servers. Hope that helps. Consider logging off.

How do you fail if you're having fun playing a game?

Yinein
03-08-2021, 06:04 PM
How do you fail if you're having fun playing a game?

Imagine, hope that helps.

Ravager
03-08-2021, 06:11 PM
Imagine, hope that helps.

I'm sorry that your imagination is good for so little.

Yinein
03-08-2021, 06:14 PM
I'm sorry that your imagination is good for so little.

Sorry yours cant get you warder loot.

DMN
03-08-2021, 06:22 PM
Buddah fly in da sky.
https://i.imgur.com/R7COtEE.png

Ravager
03-08-2021, 06:31 PM
Sorry yours cant get you warder loot.

I think you just admitted your warder loot is imaginary. Sorry, it must be a real blow to your ego.

Yinein
03-08-2021, 06:34 PM
I think you just admitted your warder loot is imaginary. Sorry, it must be a real blow to your ego.

Its def not, Sorry yours is. Hope that helps. lets see if we can get 15 pages of replying back.

Viscere
03-08-2021, 06:40 PM
Seek help Ramen.

Yinein
03-08-2021, 06:42 PM
Seek help Ramen.

Sorry you dont either, hows it feel to finally get to raid 5 years into velious. Glad you get to finally see the content.

Nexii
03-08-2021, 06:48 PM
Sorry you dont either, hows it feel to finally get to raid 5 years into velious. Glad you get to finally see the content.

Maybe in 5 more years he'll learn to be useful at a raid.

GRMurphy
03-08-2021, 06:48 PM
Beginning to get the impression that this guy isn't sorry at all that people don't have warder loot

-TK-
03-08-2021, 07:21 PM
In a nutshell, good things are preferred outcomes. Bad things are un-preferred outcomes.

Morality is 100% arbitrary by this definition. Observation would not be the final arbiter here as you stated, frame of reference would be. Which side of the 'preferred outcome' you are on would make quite the difference. I think I see where you are trying to go by defining your individual sense or morality, but you can't use this example on a larger culturally diverse scale and have it applied to a functioning society without some authority source defining the lines. Maybe you can on the small scale on a co-op'd commune, but it quickly breaks down as it scales up. There's too many grey areas.

Also know that while you choose not to accept the formal teachings of religion or divinity in the formation of your existing sense of morality, I can wager that you were raised in a western society (or developed eastern) that has taught you that killing someone, stealing from them, or otherwise causing them 'harm' is bad because of the sense of value those societies have placed on life and happiness. So, it's not like you came to your current sense of morality one day spontaneously out of your own original thought or senses with no conditioning. You have been conditioned by societies that for as long as we know have been predominately influenced by a religious or divine (your words, magical) frame of reference and have already set the moral parameters that you are choosing to adopt. Tweaking a few of their ideas here and there to work with your own opinions doesn't change that. This is not a 'gotchya' moment or anything like that. I'm simply stating that if you ignore the heavy influence of religion and divinity on morality throughout history and how it's manifested today, then you're probably ignoring a whole lot of other stuff in the formation of your concept of morality.

It's seems that you view morality as something that is already out there waiting to be discovered like a law of nature and all you have to do is be a 'healthy' person to discover it. As someone stated in another post, nature has no sense of good or bad. I have to agree that morality is a fluid human construct that has to be defined by an authority in order for societies to function within moral boundaries on a large scale.

Nocht
03-08-2021, 08:08 PM
Hey baby do you wanna see my Primal Velium Brawl Stick?

kaev
03-08-2021, 09:32 PM
Beginning to get the impression that this guy isn't sorry at all that people don't have warder loot

it's a low-grade bot, an "expert" system that resembles barely passing grade student work from the mid-80's, there is no intelligence behind those shitposts

Yinein
03-08-2021, 10:56 PM
it's a low-grade bot, an "expert" system that resembles barely passing grade student work from the mid-80's, there is no intelligence behind those shitposts

Intelligence and RNF, lol. Hope that helps.

Ps: sorry you dont got warder loot

Ravager
03-08-2021, 11:02 PM
Morality is 100% arbitrary by this definition. Observation would not be the final arbiter here as you stated, frame of reference would be. Which side of the 'preferred outcome' you are on would make quite the difference. I think I see where you are trying to go by defining your individual sense or morality, but you can't use this example on a larger culturally diverse scale and have it applied to a functioning society without some authority source defining the lines. Maybe you can on the small scale on a co-op'd commune, but it quickly breaks down as it scales up. There's too many grey areas.

Also know that while you choose not to accept the formal teachings of religion or divinity in the formation of your existing sense of morality, I can wager that you were raised in a western society (or developed eastern) that has taught you that killing someone, stealing from them, or otherwise causing them 'harm' is bad because of the sense of value those societies have placed on life and happiness. So, it's not like you came to your current sense of morality one day spontaneously out of your own original thought or senses with no conditioning. You have been conditioned by societies that for as long as we know have been predominately influenced by a religious or divine (your words, magical) frame of reference and have already set the moral parameters that you are choosing to adopt. Tweaking a few of their ideas here and there to work with your own opinions doesn't change that. This is not a 'gotchya' moment or anything like that. I'm simply stating that if you ignore the heavy influence of religion and divinity on morality throughout history and how it's manifested today, then you're probably ignoring a whole lot of other stuff in the formation of your concept of morality.

It's seems that you view morality as something that is already out there waiting to be discovered like a law of nature and all you have to do is be a 'healthy' person to discover it. As someone stated in another post, nature has no sense of good or bad. I have to agree that morality is a fluid human construct that has to be defined by an authority in order for societies to function within moral boundaries on a large scale.


Morality is not arbitrary. At all. You'd prefer things to be a certain way. I know this, because you are a person with preferences, just like me. It's a funny quirk of biology that we all have similar brains and can see ourselves as the other person. Empathy is baked in. Before you say it's god that did it, maybe study a little evolutionary psychology that doesn't require magical thinking to work.


What you prefer is your moral compass. Full stop. When reality slaps you in the face and says things aren't that way, well, then, either you or reality can change. Here's a hint. Only one of you two can, and it ain't reality. You can face facts and change your mind about shit, then reincorporate the new information and adjust your moral compass, or you can fight reality and lose. Those are your options. Choose wisely.


I was "blessed" (to borrow a phrase ironically) to be raised by two catholic parents who were disillusioned by the church and gave me the room to grow up to believe whatever I felt was right. I never went to church, so I was never indoctrinated into that idiocy. I was lucky. Most people are raised believing whatever nonsense their parents raised them to believe whether it's Jesus (pronounced yay-shue for anyone who actually cares about history... and psst *he wasn't white!*), Buddha, Shiva or whatever. That right there is enough to tell you there's bullshit afoot when all it takes to get a son or daughter of any given faith is to have them spew forth screaming from the vaginal canal of someone of the same faith.


That said, my parents were upstanding people who raised me to be upstanding. But it didn't take divine teachings for them to do that. I can't say for certain that I'd be as moral as I am without them or without any guidance at all, because we all have one life to live, but there's overwhelming evidence in evolutionary psychology that people on the whole are good because it helped people on the whole adapt and reproduce. Cause and effect. Water flowing downhill. That is physics, that is reality.


Food for thought: whatever faith you believe in is not history. Virtually every story in whatever book you believe in was derived from folklores and legends of dead religions past. Yayshue wasn't the first Yayshue.


"Is God willing to stop evil, but unable?
Then He is not powerful.
Is He able, but unwilling?
Then He is not good.
Is He both able and willing?
Then how can there be evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him 'God'?"
~Epicurus


There were so many faithful over so many centuries that died and suffered, many for decades and without relief when all it took was the magic of a benevolent force to stop it. How many suffer with Alzheimer's today? A disease no human can cause or cure, so by your own magical thinking is purely an Act of God. It's a disease distributed at random, to the faithful and not. You're Divine Authority would give it to a faithful follower as readily as anyone else. Someone, right now, raised believing in the divine, worshiping the divine even loving the divine unconditionally has Alzheimer's. They are forced to leave the home they've known their entire life. They are stripped of their memories of their grandkids and their children. They spend their days in confusion, fear and uncertainty. I can think of no worse hell to put someone in yet this is what the gods do. If I had the power to cure Alzheimer's, I'd do it without a thought. If I had the power to give Alzheimer's I'd never dream of it. So, how do you reconcile that?

Nexii
03-08-2021, 11:10 PM
“Some would ask, how could a perfect God create a universe filled with so much that is evil. They have missed a greater conundrum: why would a perfect God create a universe at all?”

Cassawary
03-08-2021, 11:55 PM
Forgive the theothanatolgists, for they know not what they do.

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 12:00 AM
“Some would ask, how could a perfect God create a universe filled with so much that is evil. They have missed a greater conundrum: why would a perfect God create a universe at all?”

The type of person that denounces existence because it's inherently cruel instead of molding the world around you to fit your needs is one that sits in their basement all day and cries their eyes out hoping the Marvel movies will one day become reality.

Wokka
03-09-2021, 12:06 AM
Warder loot and Jesus guy would make a great couple, or maybe its the same person? Detritivores all the same.

Nexii
03-09-2021, 12:14 AM
The type of person that denounces existence because it's inherently cruel instead of molding the world around you to fit your needs is one that sits in their basement all day and cries their eyes out hoping the Marvel movies will one day become reality.

This doesn't answer the question.

Zyth
03-09-2021, 12:35 AM
.

Endorra
03-09-2021, 01:09 AM
“Some would ask, how could a perfect God create a universe filled with so much that is evil. They have missed a greater conundrum: why would a perfect God create a universe at all?”

Such a fucking amazing game. I had a pleasuregasm just from you quoting it.

"Man's unfailing capacity to believe what he prefers to be true rather than what the evidence shows to be likely and possible has always astounded me. We long for a caring Universe which will save us from our childish mistakes, and in the face of mountains of evidence to the contrary we will pin all our hopes on the slimmest of doubts. God has not been proven not to exist, therefore he must exist."

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 01:10 AM
This doesn't answer the question.

Because the question is inherently stupid.

Nexii
03-09-2021, 01:25 AM
Because the question is inherently stupid.

"Things I don't want to think or learn about are stupid, and shouldn't be discussed."

Yea great life philosophy there. Must be wonderful to be so insular and ignorant at the same time.

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 01:33 AM
"Things I don't want to think or learn about are stupid, and shouldn't be discussed."

Yea great life philosophy there. Must be wonderful to be so insular and ignorant at the same time.

Pondering the mysteries of life in a negative fashion is a quest of futility and if you do it, you're retarded.

You ascertain everything I, and anything anyone else says when you're even remotely mentioned or quoted, as being stupid, negative, an attack on you, whatever, because you're a perpetual victim who can't handle not being comforted and in the spotlight like some kind of attention freak.

You assume other people's points of view and intelligence because you yourself lack perspective and critical thinking.

TL;DR You are massively stupid.

Nexii
03-09-2021, 01:44 AM
Pondering the mysteries of life in a negative fashion is a quest of futility and if you do it, you're retarded.

You ascertain everything I, and anything anyone else says when you're even remotely mentioned or quoted, as being stupid, negative, an attack on you, whatever, because you're a perpetual victim who can't handle not being comforted and in the spotlight like some kind of attention freak.

You assume other people's points of view and intelligence because you yourself lack perspective and critical thinking.

TL;DR You are massively stupid.

For one, it's not a negative quote. It comes from a religious character. More broadly, it comes from writers much more intelligent than yourself. Further, they were neither advocating for or against religion. You were the one that assumed some intent there.

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 01:55 AM
For one, it's not a negative quote. It comes from a religious character. More broadly, it comes from writers much more intelligent than yourself. Further, they were neither advocating for or against religion. You were the one that assumed some intent there.

A. I never said it was a negative quote.

B. I don't care that the character is religious.

C. The fact that you have to compare fiction with real life in order to understand it means you are emotionally underdeveloped.

D. You don't know what level of intelligence the writers of that character and I have.

E. Religion was never a part of my discussion.

F. This letter is what you need to post because you proved my previous point.

Nexii
03-09-2021, 02:17 AM
So what is your belief? Put it out there. It seems to be some kind of 'life's purpose is to mold the world in your image'. Which I guess is something, but it misses a lot. Like empathy. You'll always be alone with your mindset, I assure you.

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 02:18 AM
So what is your belief? Put it out there. It seems to be some kind of 'life's purpose is to mold the world in your image'. Which I guess is something, but it misses a lot. Like empathy. You'll always be alone with your mindset, I assure you.

My belief is that I'm not going to share my personal life on the internet because I'm not a fucking moron. :)

Nexii
03-09-2021, 02:19 AM
Right because you have none.

Viscere
03-09-2021, 02:25 AM
Nah he ain't a moron, unlike you, that's it lol

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 02:32 AM
Right because you have none.

Okay sweaty.

Once again, proving the point I posted earlier.

Nexii
03-09-2021, 02:37 AM
So what again is wrong with sharing one's gender identity? Oh right, just that people (mostly Vanquish players) are expected to be bigots and therefore I and other transgenders around here deserve it. The problem is the sharing not that people are assholes. Imagine such backward thinking. It's akin to 'well she deserved it cause how she was dressed'. Thankfully that mindset is dying out.

Canelek
03-09-2021, 02:39 AM
Moron, moron... You are like some sort of redneck diva screaming out 'moron' in front of the full-sized mirror you have temporarily tilted against your empty living room wall.

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 02:49 AM
So what again is wrong with sharing one's gender identity? Oh right, just that people (mostly Vanquish players) are expected to be bigots and therefore I and other transgenders around here deserve it. The problem is the sharing not that people are assholes. Imagine such backward thinking. It's akin to 'well she deserved it cause how she was dressed'. Thankfully that mindset is dying out.

Why are you on some kind of rager to consistently prove my point?

Your personality lacks depth and you aren't an interesting person, so that's your entire personality, and people are always going to fuck with you, as those people would fuck with anyone, and you've given them the ammunition that seems to consistently work because you apparently can't handle people not liking you.

The problem isn't that people are assholes, which tells me you apparently don't know the general public, because that's always going to happen, it's almost like nature.

You don't deserve to be fucked with on the basis that you're a transgender, you deserve to be fucked with because you provide a reaction and can't figure out why people don't like you, despite me and I'm sure many other telling you why.

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 02:50 AM
Moron, moron... You are like some sort of redneck diva screaming out 'moron' in front of the full-sized mirror you have temporarily tilted against your empty living room wall.

A full-sized mirror in an empty living room? You must be speaking from personal experience because you aren't nearly creative enough to come up with something like that.

cannobeers3
03-09-2021, 03:06 AM
Like, torthaly. Nort nanrlay

So, is the fat guy avatar supposed to mean something? Like an inside joke, eh?

Shinko
03-09-2021, 03:27 AM
Is it time for me to kill this thread by posting in it?

Viscere
03-09-2021, 03:47 AM
She sees bigots everywhere, especially in people beating her at everquest and putting her in a bad spot : being #2. She can't stand it, she is the definition of coat tail riding, thus her leaving criot and insta rejoining when they got 2x free conceded vulaks.

But when a guildie uses the N word, that's fine.

Pathetic

cotterpin
03-09-2021, 03:57 AM
She sees bigots everywhere, especially in people beating her at everquest and putting her in a bad spot : being #2. She can't stand it, she is the definition of coat tail riding, thus her leaving criot and insta rejoining when they got 2x free conceded vulaks.

But when a guildie uses the N word, that's fine.

Pathetic

Literally everything you just said has been debunked already. I know you're painfully slow and stupid but please try to keep up with the conversation if you're going to participate in it.

derpcake2
03-09-2021, 04:04 AM
So what again is wrong with sharing one's gender identity? Oh right, just that people (mostly Vanquish players) are expected to be bigots and therefore I and other transgenders around here deserve it. The problem is the sharing not that people are assholes. Imagine such backward thinking. It's akin to 'well she deserved it cause how she was dressed'. Thankfully that mindset is dying out.

don't take it personal, people hate on other attention whores also

Shinko
03-09-2021, 04:59 AM
I got to page 34 before I got bored

Viscere
03-09-2021, 05:25 AM
We got a new criotling raging in the thread, nice nice

always love me some new additions

Nexii
03-09-2021, 07:40 AM
She sees bigots everywhere, especially in people beating her at everquest and putting her in a bad spot : being #2. She can't stand it, she is the definition of coat tail riding, thus her leaving criot and insta rejoining when they got 2x free conceded vulaks.

But when a guildie uses the N word, that's fine.

Pathetic

What are you even talking about? Now you're just fabricating reality. I never saw Toxigen use the N word. The tell screenshot was sent to me after the fact.

If I were a coat tail rider I'd be over there in Vanquish, putting up with people who make fun of trans people for pixels. Sorry I don't. Sorry your guild is so full of bigots, assholes, and cheaters that you failed miserably to recruit me. Here's a tip: Don't send Beefbrocceri with his lies next time. Hope this helps.

Nexii
03-09-2021, 07:44 AM
Is it time for me to kill this thread by posting in it?

These people need a safe space to shield them from the fact that transgender people exist.

Wokka
03-09-2021, 08:21 AM
The peanut gallery in full swing. When can we expect your next round of Nazi jokes Nexii?

DMN
03-09-2021, 08:38 AM
These people need a safe space to shield them from the fact that transgender people exist.

Have you considered the possibility they are just an eminently unlikeable people, trans-whatever notwithstanding.

Shinko
03-09-2021, 09:01 AM
I am a fan of trans they give killer head

Shinko
03-09-2021, 09:01 AM
When I was in jail it was like the next best thing then the drugs

Nexii
03-09-2021, 09:58 AM
Have you considered the possibility they are just an eminently unlikeable people, trans-whatever notwithstanding.

Yes. It's both.

Snortles Chortles
03-09-2021, 10:11 AM
barks

Nirgon
03-09-2021, 10:17 AM
She sees bigots everywhere, especially in people beating her at everquest and putting her in a bad spot : being #2. She can't stand it, she is the definition of coat tail riding, thus her leaving criot and insta rejoining when they got 2x free conceded vulaks.

But when a guildie uses the N word, that's fine.

Pathetic

Lot of these types on here

Toxigen
03-09-2021, 10:29 AM
https://i.imgur.com/AprituK.gif

Nirgon
03-09-2021, 10:46 AM
I am a fan of trans they give killer head

You were the defiler and all but Ramal's shoes are big ones to fill.

Nirgon
03-09-2021, 11:17 AM
Women's history month apparently.

Perfect time to remind them that Edward Bernays psyop'd them into thinking that it would make them strong and independent to join the labor force (ultimately to drive the cost of labor down) and now single childless career women make up the largest demographic of people suffering from depression in America.


Now assign blame where needed for votes. They will fall for it.

Most working women dream of saving up enough so they can just be a stay at home mom.

Imagine the big fat rich toxic white male profiting from you and helping them push this agenda.

Nexii
03-09-2021, 12:30 PM
Women's history month apparently.

Perfect time to remind them that Edward Bernays psyop'd them into thinking that it would make them strong and independent to join the labor force (ultimately to drive the cost of labor down) and now single childless career women make up the largest demographic of people suffering from depression in America.


Now assign blame where needed for votes. They will fall for it.

Most working women dream of saving up enough so they can just be a stay at home mom.

Imagine the big fat rich toxic white male profiting from you and helping them push this agenda.

Maybe if more men were appealing there would be less single women. What is there to gain from being with lower-income low-success as Imperious put it? And lower-empathy I would add.

I could give courses and get rich by the looks of it around here.

Snortles Chortles
03-09-2021, 12:39 PM
https://i.imgur.com/c7PdB8a.jpg

CancerMage
03-09-2021, 12:41 PM
Maybe if more men were appealing there would be less single women. What is there to gain from being with lower-income low-success as Imperious put it? And lower-empathy I would add.

I could give courses and get rich by the looks of it around here.

why try to be appealing when 8/10 women are fat and disgusting. you get what you put in. you find terrible men because you yourself are terrible.

I take very good care of myself, run 11 miles a day so i can date quality women.

Canelek
03-09-2021, 12:55 PM
Does nirton have some sort of special whistle that summons legions of edgelords out of the suburbs to shitpost here?

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 01:09 PM
Have you considered the possibility they are just an eminently unlikeable people, trans-whatever notwithstanding.

Despite them being showered with the truth, they'll never accept it.

The peanut gallery in full swing. When can we expect your next round of Nazi jokes Nexii?

Whenever Nexii makes them up in their head probably.

karadin
03-09-2021, 01:10 PM
The peanut gallery in full swing. When can we expect your next round of Nazi jokes Nexii?

Replies to everyone else but skips this question. Those 3 Nazi jokes were incredibly tasteless Nexii. Can't stand the racism coming out of you in ToV on Saturday. Really bad look.

feniin
03-09-2021, 01:17 PM
why try to be appealing when 8/10 women are fat and disgusting. you get what you put in. you find terrible men because you yourself are terrible.

I take very good care of myself, run 11 miles a day so i can date quality women.

You're a fat virgin from /r/incel :o

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 01:19 PM
You're a fat virgin from /r/incel :o

Hespokethetruthsotheyhatedhim.png

Nexii
03-09-2021, 01:26 PM
Replies to everyone else but skips this question. Those 3 Nazi jokes were incredibly tasteless Nexii. Can't stand the racism coming out of you in ToV on Saturday. Really bad look.

Did you know tens of thousands of LGBT were killed in The Holocaust too? Do they teach that where you're from?

karadin
03-09-2021, 01:31 PM
Did you know tens of thousands of LGBT were killed in The Holocaust too? Do they teach that where you're from?

I'm not sure how that makes your jokes any more tasteful. Glad Menden was there to police it at least.

Cecily
03-09-2021, 01:32 PM
Can I see the nazi jokes please?

Horza
03-09-2021, 01:50 PM
Does nirton have some sort of special whistle that summons legions of edgelords out of the suburbs to shitpost here?

They once even had their own guild, but he flew too close to the sun.

CancerMage
03-09-2021, 01:54 PM
Can I see the nazi jokes please?

does this make me a nazi?

https://i.imgur.com/l63hCKS.jpg

Cecily
03-09-2021, 02:02 PM
https://i.imgur.com/wbiN0ct.jpg

Cassawary
03-09-2021, 02:04 PM
Can I see the nazi jokes please?

Snortles Chortles
03-09-2021, 02:07 PM
Can I see the nazi jokes please?

Toxigen
03-09-2021, 02:09 PM
Maybe if more men were appealing there would be less single women. What is there to gain from being with lower-income low-success as Imperious put it? And lower-empathy I would add.

https://i.imgur.com/sQsCERF.gif

Horza
03-09-2021, 02:21 PM
does this make me a nazi?

https://i.imgur.com/l63hCKS.jpg

Your boy Rittenhouse is going to rot in prison.

Nirgon
03-09-2021, 02:46 PM
Maybe if more men were appealing there would be less single women. What is there to gain from being with lower-income low-success as Imperious put it? And lower-empathy I would add.

I could give courses and get rich by the looks of it around here.

That has got ALMOST nothing to do with what I posted. Hello McFly.

DMN
03-09-2021, 02:46 PM
https://imgur.com/gallery/Q4bI5

Toxigen
03-09-2021, 02:47 PM
Can I see the nazi jokes please?

https://i.imgur.com/ANcd8lb.jpg

reznor_
03-09-2021, 02:48 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ANcd8lb.jpg

Oof.

Nirgon
03-09-2021, 02:48 PM
They once even had their own guild, but he flew too close to the sun.

And when we are untagged contesting groupable epic content, they will force us to have one.

Except I'm many, many times more powerful than the Ctwoo/Guildless(tag forced on them) crew.

Nirgon
03-09-2021, 02:54 PM
Oof.

Ahhhhhahahaha after talkin all this mess about DMO being racist or Nazi stuff.

Wewww. It's just like I said isn't it?

They're the ones constantly misappropriating, creating false equivalencies and bringing this stuff up.

Epic mobs is toxic! Just like.... nazis!


*Stares in normie at purple hairs*

Cecily
03-09-2021, 03:00 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ANcd8lb.jpg

What a fucking hypocritical idiot. Guess the cat's out of the bag.

Horza
03-09-2021, 03:01 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ANcd8lb.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gjcZHId.jpg

Nirgon
03-09-2021, 03:04 PM
If we could have the special types not bring this up in arguments constantly, maybe we stop annoying people with it and creating bad feelings. Or clogging up discussion spaces with atrocities every time they don't get their way.

And, for god sake, if you're reading this it's them and not classic EQ mechanics. What happened to keeping it classic and not caring if people like it or not? The entitlement on green has caused so many things to be ruined, and it's starting to impact the spirit of the game. Let them shit up reddit and leave p99/EQ alone. They are the poorest of sports and the real problem here.

Cecily
03-09-2021, 03:05 PM
Yeah whatever Nazi.

Nirgon
03-09-2021, 03:10 PM
Gotta find another misappropriation for your problems in life.

May I suggest something more modern?

Like being corporate brainwashed into total degeneracy? It'd be more accurate too. I don't hate any of ya, and in fact think you'd be better off if you'd consider it.

It starts with the first step and a continued effort every day, it never becomes easy just a little easier as you get into the routine.

Cecily
03-09-2021, 03:13 PM
Old man yells at cloud. I'll bite. What does being corporate brainwashed into total degeneracy entail? Not sure that's going to work with the nursing career I had in mind, but please do go on.

Nirgon
03-09-2021, 03:19 PM
A cloud with powerful social effects and statistics.

They're selling you a cope and roping you into some extremely nasty conditioning. They prey on your desire for moral authority which compensates for not being prom king, getting rejected etc.

I'm here to help.

Horza
03-09-2021, 03:27 PM
Nirgon is never going to get over having his racist parody guild disbanded.

Snortles Chortles
03-09-2021, 03:31 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ANcd8lb.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IrSPToc.jpg

Yinein
03-09-2021, 03:31 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ANcd8lb.jpg

Oof not a good look

Nirgon
03-09-2021, 03:34 PM
Nirgon is never going to get over having his racist parody guild disbanded.

Has had zero impact outside 1 fella

zodium
03-09-2021, 03:40 PM
A cloud with powerful social effects and statistics.

They're selling you a cope and roping you into some extremely nasty conditioning. They prey on your desire for moral authority which compensates for not being prom king, getting rejected etc.

I'm here to help.

lol

Nirgon
03-09-2021, 03:43 PM
Did they disband Dial A Daniel or did you give up

Never give up son

Yinein
03-09-2021, 03:47 PM
Is riot ok with the hate speech? Seems like a lot is brewing in their guild

Toxigen
03-09-2021, 03:58 PM
Is riot ok with the hate speech? Seems like a lot is brewing in their guild

Its not hate speech if its a leftist calling someone (or a group of people) nazi(s). Thats perfectly fine.

Its only hate speech if its a straight white male questioning the mental health of people who mutilate their genitalia (and want kids to be able to do the same thing).

Horza
03-09-2021, 04:01 PM
Won't just one person care about the plight of straight white males?

Cassawary
03-09-2021, 04:06 PM
Is riot ok with the hate speech? Seems like a lot is brewing in their guild

Riot has a fox in the henhouse. :eek:

Nirgon
03-09-2021, 04:10 PM
Won't just one person care about the plight of straight white males?

Plenty of them have their brains enslaved too

Nexii
03-09-2021, 04:13 PM
Its not hate speech if its a leftist calling someone (or a group of people) nazi(s). Thats perfectly fine.

Its only hate speech if its a straight white male questioning the mental health of people who mutilate their genitalia (and want kids to be able to do the same thing).

lol

DMN
03-09-2021, 04:15 PM
Why not make another DMO? Democrats Mostly Obese?

Snortles Chortles
03-09-2021, 04:17 PM
lol

https://i.imgur.com/ujjpEIT.gif

Horza
03-09-2021, 04:21 PM
Why not make another DMO? Democrats Mostly Obese?

Deranged MAGA Obsessives?

DMN
03-09-2021, 04:32 PM
Deranged MAGA Obsessives?

No one cares about you or your hobbies.

Nirgon
03-09-2021, 04:33 PM
Dunno, we will see what happens when we move in on the "toxic and problematic" camps

Have those petitions ready, and be prepared to be a bad sport about it instead of shaking hands like men and congratulating the winner

Horza
03-09-2021, 04:41 PM
https://i.imgur.com/LMy4F0o.jpg

Mockba1980
03-09-2021, 04:52 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ANcd8lb.jpg

Nexii, nice way to be completely discredited.

Viscere
03-09-2021, 04:56 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ANcd8lb.jpg

Woha.

What a dumb bitch, rly.

Should just stop posting 'cause she just got destroyed like the salty cunt that she is

Yinein
03-09-2021, 04:59 PM
Is riot gonna boot for anti semitism or do they just accept it?

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 04:59 PM
Nirgon is never going to get over having his racist parody guild disbanded.

How was it racist though?

Nexii
03-09-2021, 05:00 PM
Is riot gonna boot for anti semitism or do they just accept it?

All cleared up with Menden and Arcler. Just water under the bridge now.

Yinein
03-09-2021, 05:02 PM
All cleared up with Menden and Arcler. Just water under the bridge now.

Ahh ok that makes ok to say

Prismaticshop
03-09-2021, 05:03 PM
So you tolerate nazi jokes and people using the N word, so long they are not transphobic?

k

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 05:07 PM
lol

lol indeed.

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 05:10 PM
All cleared up with Menden and Arcler. Just water under the bridge now.

No because now I'm offended, I don't want actual Nazis telling anti-Semitic jokes on the same game, or forum as me.

Nexii
03-09-2021, 05:19 PM
No because now I'm offended, I don't want actual Nazis telling anti-Semitic jokes on the same game, or forum as me.

lol they've evolved from jokes to toxic memes

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 05:21 PM
lol they've evolved from jokes to toxic memes

You think I'm kidding? I'm actually Jewish and this is really fucking offensive.

I'm writing up a petition for this right now.

Nexii
03-09-2021, 05:23 PM
You think I'm kidding? I'm actually Jewish and this is really fucking offensive.

I'm writing up a petition for this right now.

Go ahead. I'm actually transgender and trangenders were persecuted too. That was the point.

Snortles Chortles
03-09-2021, 05:24 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ujjpEIT.gif

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 05:26 PM
Go ahead. I'm actually transgender and trangenders were persecuted too. That was the point.

Are you comparing the numbers of jewish people who suffered to other groups, seriously?

Nexii
03-09-2021, 05:28 PM
Are you comparing the numbers of jewish people who suffered to other groups, seriously?

No but you are

Horza
03-09-2021, 05:29 PM
How was it racist though?

Ask the GM who disbanded the guild.

Mockba1980
03-09-2021, 05:30 PM
For Nexii the holocaust (6 millions jews dead in nazi camp) is a funny thing, and doing jokes around this is "cool & ok" for Arcler.

I m waiting Riot's lawyer to explain us here how all this shit is normal.

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 05:31 PM
No but you are

That's really offensive, you're anti-Semitic and assuming the Jews suffered the same as everyone else.

Ask the GM who disbanded the guild.

I'm asking you since you're accusing them, surely you have some kind of proof.

Horza
03-09-2021, 05:32 PM
I'm asking you since you're accusing them, surely you have some kind of proof.

I'm not going to debate you, bro.

DMN
03-09-2021, 05:35 PM
Ask the GM who disbanded the guild.

Is it racist to ban an all erudite guild, Derpza?

Nexii
03-09-2021, 05:35 PM
It's actually good to know staff is taking such things seriously these days. There was a red guild <Holocaust> for many years. I felt a lot better after talking about it with Menden.

Same can't be said for all the triggered people

Snortles Chortles
03-09-2021, 05:35 PM
https://i.imgur.com/hwHRvGD.png

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 05:36 PM
I'm not going to debate you, bro.

I'm not asking for a debate I'm asking you to tell me how they were racist.

If you can't say something, anything, in your next post that they've done racist, then I'm going to assume you're just talking out of your ass, and you should promptly exit the thread.

Horza
03-09-2021, 05:47 PM
I'm not asking for a debate I'm asking you to tell me how they were racist.

If you can't say something, anything, in your next post that they've done racist, then I'm going to assume you're just talking out of your ass, and you should promptly exit the thread.

https://i.imgur.com/mwVPnEI.gif

Snortles Chortles
03-09-2021, 05:50 PM
https://i.imgur.com/nEsmuap.gif

Cecily
03-09-2021, 06:16 PM
Not to excuse it, but wanted to not it's funny watching you guys pretend to be offended and go on the SJW offensive over someone's offensive autism. Neat how it goes full circle.

Snortles Chortles
03-09-2021, 06:21 PM
https://i.imgur.com/NLVUP7Q.gif

Cecily
03-09-2021, 07:05 PM
https://i.imgur.com/0DpxvB7.gif

Snortles Chortles
03-09-2021, 07:12 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Smn8jQ0.gif

Cecily
03-09-2021, 07:16 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Z0xCvsl.gif

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 07:18 PM
https://i.imgur.com/mwVPnEI.gif

So by your own admission they aren't racist, cool.

Ennewi
03-09-2021, 07:40 PM
How was it racist though?

Insinuation. The idea being, if anyone questions the ambiguous motives or intent behind our guild, call them racist. It's a game within the game. Push the limits of what's allowed. Just as is the case when raiding, it isn't about what you're accused of, but what can be proven, what you can get away with and for how long. For some, that's where the fun is to be had. The only way they could have made virtual black face more obvious would have been to be playing all bards with masks of obtenebration. It isn't so much what was done, but who did it which answers the question of why. If you know anything about the players behind the characters, they aren't exactly deserving of the benefit of any doubt.

Ennewi
03-09-2021, 07:42 PM
Not to excuse it, but wanted to not it's funny watching you guys pretend to be offended and go on the SJW offensive over someone's offensive autism. Neat how it goes full circle.

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/allism

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 07:45 PM
https://i.imgur.com/mwVPnEI.gif

Yeah I didn't think so.


Insinuation. The idea being, if anyone questions the ambiguous motives or intent behind our guild, call them racist. It's a game within the game. Push the limits of what's allowed. Just as is the case when raiding, it isn't about what you're accused of, but what can be proven, what you can get away with and for how long. For some, that's where the fun is to be had. The only way they could have made virtual black face more obvious would have been to be playing all bards with masks of obtenebration. It isn't so much what was done, but who did it which answers the question of why. If you know anything about the players behind the characters, they aren't exactly deserving of the benefit of any doubt.



So basically you're telling me they're racist because of your assumption that they were being racist, and your assumption that they were all white people playing Erudites?

How do you know they aren't all black people playing Erudites who are now compiling screenshots of in-game/forum messages to report people with, by calling them racist and doing black face, despite potential evidence to the contrary?

DMN
03-09-2021, 07:45 PM
I know racism when i see it. proof isn't required. And if you don't agree you are a racist.

Fuck you.

Snortles Chortles
03-09-2021, 07:46 PM
ITS YOUR GUILDS FIRST FOR MAKING ME THINK RACIS THOUGHTS!
https://i.imgur.com/7jJJYiA.jpg

Ennewi
03-09-2021, 07:46 PM
Spin it any way you want though, the guild is still disbanded because their overall behavior was deplorable enough to warrant that.

Snortles Chortles
03-09-2021, 07:46 PM
*FAULT

Ennewi
03-09-2021, 07:47 PM
Fuck you.

Sideways?

Ennewi
03-09-2021, 07:49 PM
Fuck you.

I know the history of the players in that guild, having been on p99 far too long. Doesn't take a nat 20 roll on perception to figure out their intent.

Ennewi
03-09-2021, 07:50 PM
But again, spin it however you want.

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 07:56 PM
Spin it any way you want though, the guild is still disbanded because their overall behavior was deplorable enough to warrant that.

Which was what?

Sounds like they didn't do anything racist to me, at all.

I have yet to be provided with an example of something "deplorable" they did.

Unless of course they were beginning to compete with other guilds and every other nancy wanted an out for them to be removed from something like the UN?

Snortles Chortles
03-09-2021, 07:57 PM
I know the history of the players in that guild, having been on p99 far too long. Doesn't take a nat 20 roll on perception to figure out their intent.

ITS YOUR GUILDS FAULT FOR MAKING ME THINK RACIS THOUGHTS!
https://i.imgur.com/4JmAkLl.jpg

Ennewi
03-09-2021, 07:59 PM
Apparently they trolled the UN, while Seal Team leadership went nuttier than squirrel shit and nuked the channel itself. Maybe they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, but their attempts at trolling caught up with them. It would be interesting to know what was the last straw.

Snortles Chortles
03-09-2021, 08:00 PM
ITS YOUR GUILDS FAULT FOR MAKING ME THINK RACIS THOUGHTS!
https://i.imgur.com/4JmAkLl.jpg

Horza
03-09-2021, 08:01 PM
Did L

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 08:01 PM
Apparently they trolled the UN, while Seal Team leadership went nuttier than squirrel shit and nuked the channel itself. Maybe they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, but their attempts at trolling caught up with them. It would be interesting to know what was the last straw.

Yet most people say it's because they're racist and have done racist things, however I'm still waiting to hear something they've actually done.

If trolling the UN is enough to get a guild disbanded then I think my theory might have more weight to it.

Horza
03-09-2021, 08:02 PM
Did Lulz finally snap?

Ennewi
03-09-2021, 08:05 PM
ITS YOUR GUILDS FAULT FOR MAKING ME THINK RACIS THOUGHTS!
https://i.imgur.com/4JmAkLl.jpg

Nah, it's just, if there's a pyromaniac in my neighborhood who suggestively threatens everyone for his own entertainment and then he accidentally burns down his own house, I'm not in any rush to help him put out the fire. I'm going to be entertained.

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 08:07 PM
Nah, it's just, if there's a pyromaniac in my neighborhood who suggestively threatens everyone for his own entertainment and then he accidentally burns down his own house, I'm not in any rush to help him put out the fire. I'm going to be entertained.

Not really the same scenario though, is it.

Snortles Chortles
03-09-2021, 08:08 PM
Did L

https://i.imgur.com/rwb5rhS.jpg

Ennewi
03-09-2021, 08:22 PM
Yet most people say it's because they're racist and have done racist things, however I'm still waiting to hear something they've actually done.

If trolling the UN is enough to get a guild disbanded then I think my theory might have more weight to it.

And holocaust is technically just a word describing slaughter en masse but then it isn't, especially in the minds of some players with that now defunct guild tag. It's similar to when a celebrity has died IRL and suddenly corpses bearing their name show up everywhere in Norrath. It reflects poorly on the server and adds nothing to the community. Whether it is or isn't [insert word here] isn't the point. People like getting a ride out of each other. That's the internet. Is it racist to knowingly do something that will be (mis)construed as racist, simply to troll? Idk, but where there's smoke... Potayto. Potahto. Fuhrer. Furoar.

Horza
03-09-2021, 08:25 PM
And holocaust is technically just a word describing slaughter en masse but then it isn't, especially in the minds of some players with that now defunct guild tag. It's similar to when a celebrity has died IRL and suddenly corpses bearing their name show up everywhere in Norrath. It reflects poorly on the server and adds nothing to the community. Whether it is or isn't [insert word here] isn't the point. People like getting a ride out of each other. That's the internet. Is it racist to knowingly do something that will be (mis)construed as racist, simply to troll? Idk, but where there's smoke... Potayto. Potahto. Fuhrer. Furoar.

The Gang Learns about Connotation

Ennewi
03-09-2021, 08:28 PM
Not really the same scenario though, is it.

Only to the extent that they don't want the server down, otherwise they would be DDOSing like players have in the past.

zodium
03-09-2021, 08:28 PM
lol

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 08:29 PM
And holocaust is technically just a word describing slaughter en masse but then it isn't, especially in the minds of some players with that now defunct guild tag. It's similar to when a celebrity has died IRL and suddenly corpses bearing their name show up everywhere in Norrath. It reflects poorly on the server and adds nothing to the community. Whether it is or isn't [insert word here] isn't the point. People like getting a ride out of each other. That's the internet. Is it racist to knowingly do something that will be (mis)construed as racist, simply to troll? Idk, but where there's smoke... Potayto. Potahto. Fuhrer. Furoar.

"Holocaust" is a word that is typically used to portray one event in human history, most people don't refer to a slaughter of things as a holocaust, like for example, the Armenian Genocide.

From my experience, when I was "new" to the server, I didn't think Dark Men of Odus was racist at all, or trying to insinuate anything. It seemed like a Erudite RP guild so I didn't engage with them because I wasn't into RP.

So would Alex Afrasiabi be racist because his character's name was Furor? If you don't know who that is, he was the GM of the original Fires of Heaven, and now works for Blizzard.

Tentarro
03-09-2021, 08:30 PM
Page 100, we did it.

HalflingSpergand
03-09-2021, 08:32 PM
I sense a bit of disbelief in your post aboutthe fact that everyone is a giant pussy.

Cassawary
03-09-2021, 08:36 PM
Droxx was toxic apparently :/

DMN
03-09-2021, 08:39 PM
Fido confirms -- toshiba racist.

https://i.imgur.com/aqGIg.jpg

imperiouskitten
03-09-2021, 08:41 PM
that tv isnt even plugged in, its the ghoest of racism

sydbarrett25
03-09-2021, 08:44 PM
Wow 100 pages what have you spoken of here?

Ravager
03-09-2021, 08:51 PM
I go to bed. Wake up. Go to work. Have dinner and check this thread and there's 16 more pages. Glad to see you dorks working around the clock on this one. Keep it up!