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Horza
03-11-2021, 01:12 PM
Torture was different for women than for men.

Some of the methods included raping them in front of their partners, or inserting live rats into their vaginas.

Some 35,000 victims of the military junta gave evidence to the National Commission on Political Imprisonment and Torture in 2005, of which nearly 13 percent (3,399) were women -- almost all of them subjected to sexual violence.

Victims testified of electric shocks to their genitals, or being raped with dogs trained to perform this vile act.

Snortles Chortles
03-11-2021, 01:14 PM
https://i.imgur.com/5ZBUQpM.jpg

Nirgon
03-11-2021, 01:16 PM
I wonder why the server GMs refuse to treat your digital blackface group equally.

They formed the guild at our request. So they didn't agree it was racist.

That comment from Menden seems more like knee jerk frustration. There's a human element to GMing, and why I appreciate the volunteer work and dont go after anyone I know is acting in good faith, or often possesses knowledge about players I do not. What people say to each other (hostile attacks) vs to the GMs (help muh mental health etc) - are different things.

I'm not here to give anyone a mental breakdown. If they couldn't handle the intensity and volume of the crocodile tears because of us holding our ground or returning baseless accusations with revelations of their sociopathic pyramid scheme to poach guilds and get free pixels... then fine. We are business as usual here at DMO.

If you're lurking and interested, feel free to join us: https://discord.gg/gRXkfYCu

That's for our lobby to join, there's some vetting before becoming a member. Feel free to level up your own son of Erud and see it isnt a fuckin klan rally or whatever you think it is. The GMs are able to invite themselves to guilds incognito and read guild chat, I'm sure they did it with us and found nothing remotely hateful.

Tunabros
03-11-2021, 01:49 PM
Nirgon racist??

zodium
03-11-2021, 02:00 PM
They formed the guild at our request. So they didn't agree it was racist.

That comment from Menden seems more like knee jerk frustration. There's a human element to GMing, and why I appreciate the volunteer work and dont go after anyone I know is acting in good faith, or often possesses knowledge about players I do not. What people say to each other (hostile attacks) vs to the GMs (help muh mental health etc) - are different things.

I'm not here to give anyone a mental breakdown. If they couldn't handle the intensity and volume of the crocodile tears because of us holding our ground or returning baseless accusations with revelations of their sociopathic pyramid scheme to poach guilds and get free pixels... then fine. We are business as usual here at DMO.

If you're lurking and interested, feel free to join us: https://discord.gg/gRXkfYCu

That's for our lobby to join, there's some vetting before becoming a member. Feel free to level up your own son of Erud and see it isnt a fuckin klan rally or whatever you think it is. The GMs are able to invite themselves to guilds incognito and read guild chat, I'm sure they did it with us and found nothing remotely hateful.

calm hitlerw

Horza
03-11-2021, 02:08 PM
Pinochet-era Intelligence Agent Faces Extradition from Australia. (https://nacla.org/news/2020/07/10/pinochet--extradition-australia)

In February 2019, Rivas was arrested in Sydney. Later this month, an Australian court will decide whether Rivas will be extradited to Chile. Chileans in Australia say she may not be the only DINA agent who is evading the justice system.

In her original interview in 2013, Rivas defended the use of torture under the brutal U.S.-backed Pinochet regime, saying that, “The same way the Nazis did, it was necessary. It’s the only way to break people.” Rivas claimed those were the “best years of my youth.”

Cecily
03-11-2021, 02:09 PM
Literally what I've been doing the whole time.
I've noticed. You seem like a decent person. And thank you as well. Nirgon / Lulz'esss take on my demographic is kind of rough to take, but we're ultimately all profoundly damaged people and I think we can solace in the fact that discussing elf politics is a DSM checklist for something.

Tentarro
03-11-2021, 02:13 PM
Horza admits no racism or racist acts occurred within or surrounding DMO and now shifts gears to posting about things that happened while Pinochet was in the middle of a military coup.

Also ITT: Horza trying to pose sympathy for the leftists/marxists/communists that Pinochet's coup ousted after they had already ruined the lives of Chileans everywhere.

Horza
03-11-2021, 02:17 PM
I'm have sympathy for anyone who is tortured and raped.

Tentarro
03-11-2021, 02:18 PM
I'm have sympathy for anyone who is tortured and raped.

Same people who likely allowed their countrymen and their children to starve.

Horza
03-11-2021, 02:19 PM
Damn autocorrect.

Horza
03-11-2021, 02:20 PM
Same people who likely allowed their countrymen and their children to starve.

You can try to rationalize mass murder and widespread torture many ways.

Tentarro
03-11-2021, 02:22 PM
You can try to rationalize mass murder and widespread torture many ways.

I'm not rationalizing for myself. I'm giving you what I believe a Chilean's perspective to be.

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Horza
03-11-2021, 02:32 PM
Why would I believe you know better about a Chilean's perspective than actual Chileans?

Tentarro
03-11-2021, 02:33 PM
Why would I believe you know better about a Chilean's perspective than actual Chileans?

Are you trying to say Chileans can only believe in one thing? Are you calling them stupid or perhaps one-track minded?

Nirgon
03-11-2021, 02:37 PM
Oh that's their whole thing. They're superior to these poor lessers who can't figure out how to sign up for something on the internet or get a voter ID (meanwhile driver licenses aren't racist some how)

Horza
03-11-2021, 02:39 PM
Are you trying to say Chileans can only believe in one thing? Are you calling them stupid or perhaps one-track minded?

I'm saying that you're full of shit.

Tentarro
03-11-2021, 02:43 PM
Oh that's their whole thing. They're superior to these poor lessers who can't figure out how to sign up for something on the internet or get a voter ID (meanwhile driver licenses aren't racist some how)

"Poor kids can be just as successful as white kids."

Freud must've left out a banana peel covered in dish soap for that one.

But no I think Horza is right on this one, Chileans are a lesser race of brown people who have hivemind beliefs.

I'm saying that you're full of shit.

Full of shit? Ask the Cubans who've fled their country how they feel about leftists/marxists/communists.

Ask Russians who left the Soviet Union how they feel about empty marketplaces and coming to America to see a filled Wal-Mart.

I'd say ask a Chinese person how they feel about Communism but their answer might get them killed.

Horza
03-11-2021, 02:53 PM
But no I think Horza is right on this one, Chileans are a lesser race of brown people who have hivemind beliefs.

:confused:

Tentarro
03-11-2021, 02:55 PM
:confused:

If that's the only thing you took out of my whole post, I think you know where that leaves you.

Cassawary
03-11-2021, 02:59 PM
You know what sounds like a really good use of your time? Rehabilitating the image of Augusto Pinochet.

Horza
03-11-2021, 03:04 PM
You know what sounds like a really good use of your time? Rehabilitating the image of Augusto Pinochet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAUOPHqx5Gs

Cecily
03-11-2021, 03:07 PM
As a trans woman, can I get a refresher on why we're talking about Chilean dictators please?

Cassawary
03-11-2021, 03:11 PM
As a trans woman, can I get a refresher on why we're talking about Chilean dictators please?

starts here

Start up the rotors.

xdrcfrx
03-11-2021, 03:28 PM
Oh that's their whole thing. They're superior to these poor lessers who can't figure out how to sign up for something on the internet or get a voter ID (meanwhile driver licenses aren't racist some how)

1. for constitutional legal purposes, you have a right to vote, but there is no constitutional guarantee protecting your right to drive, beyond 5th/14th amendment due process clauses, and 14th amendment equal protection clause, which require the states to adopt reasonable standards which are applied to all residents equally. States are free to set limits on driving, so long as they do not run afoul of those somewhat basic standards. The same is not true of voting, which is a specific right protected by the constitution in a number of places, as well as by the Voting Rights Act (such as it remains, in any case).

2. afaik there isn't a long history of using the law to prohibit specific groups of people from driving cars, whereas voting restrictions have a long and well documents history as part of the Jim Crow era to keep non-whites from exercising the right to vote. To that point, there is a Voting Rights Act, but but a Driving Rights Act. So, although it would not be per se racist to restrict the issuance of drivers licenses, or voter ID's, because of the history of voter suppression in the US (and, concomitantly the link between that history specifically and race) voter ID laws are immediately more suspect than laws dealing with the issuance of drivers licenses.

3. (for tentarro) you'll note that none of the Pinochet critics in this thread (such a controversial take, to be against mass torture and extra judicial killings) are in here justifying Pol Pot's disastrous khmer rouge on the basis of "well, those people probably deserved it. just doing what needed to be done." why? because that is a crazy, nonsense, thing to think, and believing it makes you a bad person.

OuterChimp
03-11-2021, 03:33 PM
I dno't "drive"....I "travel!"

"...are you detaining meh?!?!?!!??!?!"

Horza
03-11-2021, 03:39 PM
such a controversial take, to be against mass torture and extra judicial killings

Join date says 2017, but this comment makes me think you must be new here.

Cassawary
03-11-2021, 03:42 PM
concomitantly

ow my head ow ow :p

Nirgon
03-11-2021, 03:44 PM
"Poor kids can't vote as good as white kids." Thx for that gibberish name guy.

Arvan
03-11-2021, 03:44 PM
it is rnf so if you get a reaction out of someone you win. looks like nirgon big forum loser

zodium
03-11-2021, 03:52 PM
lol

Snortles Chortles
03-11-2021, 03:53 PM
lol

xdrcfrx
03-11-2021, 04:13 PM
omg, lol hi!

Tentarro
03-11-2021, 05:00 PM
1. for constitutional legal purposes, you have a right to vote, but there is no constitutional guarantee protecting your right to drive, beyond 5th/14th amendment due process clauses, and 14th amendment equal protection clause, which require the states to adopt reasonable standards which are applied to all residents equally. States are free to set limits on driving, so long as they do not run afoul of those somewhat basic standards. The same is not true of voting, which is a specific right protected by the constitution in a number of places, as well as by the Voting Rights Act (such as it remains, in any case).

2. afaik there isn't a long history of using the law to prohibit specific groups of people from driving cars, whereas voting restrictions have a long and well documents history as part of the Jim Crow era to keep non-whites from exercising the right to vote. To that point, there is a Voting Rights Act, but but a Driving Rights Act. So, although it would not be per se racist to restrict the issuance of drivers licenses, or voter ID's, because of the history of voter suppression in the US (and, concomitantly the link between that history specifically and race) voter ID laws are immediately more suspect than laws dealing with the issuance of drivers licenses.

3. (for tentarro) you'll note that none of the Pinochet critics in this thread (such a controversial take, to be against mass torture and extra judicial killings) are in here justifying Pol Pot's disastrous khmer rouge on the basis of "well, those people probably deserved it. just doing what needed to be done." why? because that is a crazy, nonsense, thing to think, and believing it makes you a bad person.

Pol Pot was a communist and Pinochet likely would've done the same to him. The amount of death relating to removing Communism is a drop in the bucket compared to the extinction communists have performed.

xdrcfrx
03-11-2021, 05:03 PM
you ever manage to get the taste of boot leather out of your mouth?

Tentarro
03-11-2021, 05:04 PM
you ever manage to get the taste of boot leather out of your mouth?

Never had it before, you asking for tips or something? Try Horva.

Nirgon
03-11-2021, 05:05 PM
you ever manage to get the taste of boot leather out of your mouth?

Who is willingly brainwashing themselves with corporate propaganda and siding with the people who start endless wars again?

xdrcfrx
03-11-2021, 05:11 PM
Never had it before, you asking for tips or something? Try Horva.

he at least seems appropriately against mass torture and murder as a legitimate political tool. can't say the same for you, sadly.

you do know that in all likelihood you'd be another expendable non-life, fit to be used and discarde or just discarded outright if you object, by the kind of murderous maniacs you're here carrying water for, right?

Tentarro
03-11-2021, 05:16 PM
he at least seems appropriately against mass torture and murder as a legitimate political tool. can't say the same for you, sadly.

you do know that in all likelihood you'd be another expendable non-life, fit to be used and discarde or just discarded outright if you object, by the kind of murderous maniacs you're here carrying water for, right?

Doesn't seem that way, since Pinochet seemed to only target communists, of which, I'm not.

You do know that in all likelihood, you're the literal definition of a useful idiot, right? You spout pro-communist agendas and demonize the people who improved life and removed (in their opinion, specifically Pinochet) the scourge pushing their nation into poverty, and once the scale tips again, you'd be put on a wall because you can't be trusted to keep your mouth shut, right?

You know that's how it really operates, right? Because you read history, right?

xdrcfrx
03-11-2021, 05:20 PM
a bunch of nonsense justifying murder

well, at least in the USA we managed to narrowly avert the "throwing my opponents out of helicopters" phase when the gravy seals failed to overthrow the government in January. Long may they all rot.

Also was unaware that "murder is bad" was pro-communist propaganda. Who knew!

Horza
03-11-2021, 05:38 PM
Surely cozying up to killers like Pinochet will win Republicans back the middle class, suburban voters they need to retake the Senate.

Tentarro
03-11-2021, 05:43 PM
well, at least in the USA we managed to narrowly avert the "throwing my opponents out of helicopters" phase when the gravy seals failed to overthrow the government in January. Long may they all rot.

Also was unaware that "murder is bad" was pro-communist propaganda. Who knew!

I love it, lol. It goes to show what kind of pussy worldview you have that people walking into the chambers with police escort as a protest is the equivalent of an actual coup.

No wonder you get so flabbergasted by words, you think everything is a full scale nuclear attack and you wet yourself in fear.

Surely cozying up to killers like Pinochet will win Republicans back the middle class, suburban voters they need to retake the Senate.

Same goes for you.

xdrcfrx
03-11-2021, 05:47 PM
I love it, lol. It goes to show what kind of pussy worldview you have that people walking into the chambers with police escort as a protest is the equivalent of an actual coup.

No wonder you get so flabbergasted by words, you think everything is a full scale nuclear attack and you wet yourself in fear.



Same goes for you.

They beat one of those cops to death. Yikes dude.

Tentarro
03-11-2021, 05:53 PM
They beat one of those cops to death. Yikes dude.

Yikers dude! A cop got oofed to death after the left spent 9 months demonizing police and calling for their defunding and death! Yikes! I'm only going to care about pigs- I mean cops now because it's convenient and conducive to my point, ouch!

xdrcfrx
03-11-2021, 06:03 PM
Yikers dude! A cop got oofed to death after the left spent 9 months demonizing police and calling for their defunding and death! Yikes! I'm only going to care about pigs- I mean cops now because it's convenient and conducive to my point, ouch!

"Oofed to death?" Bit of a euphemism here, eh? Guess it's in keeping with your approval of "removing" "undesirables" from society.

Who else do you think deserves to die? I'm sure the list is quite extensive.

Nexii
03-11-2021, 06:09 PM
lol Pinochet worship. I guess worshipping the Furoar is passé

Tentarro
03-11-2021, 06:10 PM
"Oofed to death?" Bit of a euphemism here, eh? Guess it's in keeping with your approval of "removing" "undesirables" from society.

Who else do you think deserves to die? I'm sure the list is quite extensive.

You've spent the majority of the time here trying to pin my desire to kill people on anything I've said even though I've only been saying that during a military coup, the opposition will be removed through various means. And if you've been oppressed by the group you're removing, you won't be kind to them.

Also that Pinochet made Chile prosperous once he removed the communists.

I figured it would go over your head but "oofed to death" is my making fun of you for your redditspeak.

Tentarro
03-11-2021, 06:11 PM
lol Pinochet worship. I guess worshipping the Furoar is passé

Why are you back in this thread, Anti-Semite?

Yinein
03-11-2021, 06:19 PM
Imagine being in riot and claiming anti semitism is just water under the bridge

Horza
03-11-2021, 06:37 PM
You've spent the majority of the time here trying to pin my desire to kill people on anything I've said even though I've only been saying that during a military coup, the opposition will be removed through various means. And if you've been oppressed by the group you're removing, you won't be kind to them.

Also that Pinochet made Chile prosperous once he removed the communists.

I figured it would go over your head but "oofed to death" is my making fun of you for your redditspeak.

There's a lot of euphemisms for murdering people you have political disagreements with in this post.

Tentarro
03-11-2021, 07:00 PM
There's a lot of euphemisms for murdering people you have political disagreements with in this post.

"I'm going to bold key fragments of your sentences to take you out of context because I'm too emotionally driven to take people at face level and always have to try and find hidden meaning like a conspiracy theorist."

Take Nexii's example and leave the thread.

magnetaress
03-11-2021, 07:08 PM
"I'm going to bold key fragments of your sentences to take you out of context because I'm too emotionally driven to take people at face level and always have to try and find hidden meaning like a conspiracy theorist."

Take Nexii's example and leave the thread.

This is exactly what you did to me in off topic.

I'm still upset enough to reply about it here.

It's not sarcasm when it's hypocrisy.

Cassawary
03-11-2021, 07:09 PM
https://i.imgur.com/59yuSzf.jpg

Tentarro
03-11-2021, 07:17 PM
This is exactly what you did to me in off topic.

I'm still upset enough to reply about it here.

It's not sarcasm when it's hypocrisy.

If you want to believe that your own points being shit and all over the place and me trying to piece together that thing you call a cohesive argument taking you out of context, then by all means, please do so.

zodium
03-11-2021, 07:28 PM
You've spent the majority of the time here trying to pin my desire to kill people on anything I've said even though I've only been saying that during a military coup, the opposition will be removed through various means. And if you've been oppressed by the group you're removing, you won't be kind to them.

Also that Pinochet made Chile prosperous once he removed the communists.

I figured it would go over your head but "oofed to death" is my making fun of you for your redditspeak.

lol

xdrcfrx
03-11-2021, 07:30 PM
You've spent the majority of the time here trying to pin my desire to kill people on anything I've said even though I've only been saying that during a military coup, the opposition will be removed through various means. And if you've been oppressed by the group you're removing, you won't be kind to them.

Also that Pinochet made Chile prosperous once he removed the communists.

I figured it would go over your head but "oofed to death" is my making fun of you for your redditspeak.

what would you pin your desire to kill people on, then?

Tentarro
03-11-2021, 07:34 PM
what would you pin your desire to kill people on, then?

Nothing, since I don't have a desire to kill anyone.

xdrcfrx
03-11-2021, 07:41 PM
Nothing, since I don't have a desire to kill anyone.

you just want a tough daddy-figure in a tight fitting jacket with some fancy epaulets to do it for you. got it.

sydbarrett25
03-11-2021, 08:12 PM
Do you even know what you all are talking about anymore?

Tentarro
03-11-2021, 08:42 PM
you just want a tough daddy-figure in a tight fitting jacket with some fancy epaulets to do it for you. got it.

Ah okay, so by that logic you're a dangerous, psychopathic torturing murderer who simultaneously is a massive bitch who cries at internet words.

Sounds like a real Jeffery Dahmer to me.

Do you even know what you all are talking about anymore?

They don't, I'm just following the motion of their tear-filled ocean.

Nirgon
03-11-2021, 09:01 PM
fixed

There's anti semitism right there Horza with the triple parentheses shit.

Snortles Chortles
03-11-2021, 09:02 PM
i came here to post

Tentarro
03-11-2021, 09:10 PM
There's anti semitism right there Horza with the triple parentheses shit.

Wow. So not only does Horza take people out of context on purpose, but just like Nexii he's out to be anti-Semitic as well?

I didn't realize we tolerated that kind of thing on this board.

Nirgon
03-11-2021, 09:16 PM
Use of the notation was brought to mainstream attention by an article posted by Mic in June 2016.[4][5] The reports also led Google to remove a browser extension meant to automatically place the "echo" notation around Jewish names on web pages,[5] and the notation being classified as a form of hate speech by the Anti-Defamation League.[4]



Only one of us is an ADL confirmed bigot now. Good thread.

Horza
03-11-2021, 09:17 PM
There's anti semitism right there Horza with the triple parentheses shit.

Calling out dog whistles and conspiratorial thinking isn't anti-semitism.

Nirgon
03-11-2021, 09:22 PM
Can't believe u did that

Arteker
03-11-2021, 09:36 PM
Doesn't seem that way, since Pinochet seemed to only target communists, of which, I'm not.

You do know that in all likelihood, you're the literal definition of a useful idiot, right? You spout pro-communist agendas and demonize the people who improved life and removed (in their opinion, specifically Pinochet) the scourge pushing their nation into poverty, and once the scale tips again, you'd be put on a wall because you can't be trusted to keep your mouth shut, right?

You know that's how it really operates, right? Because you read history, right?

If u gonna claim u know history, by the way atleast try to be accurate and dont act like a mongoloid turd.

Pinochet DINA did not just rooted communist people but anyone who talked or dissent his regime, it did kidnap and killed even foreing people like journalists and even politics of other countrys wich torutred and killed like Carmelo soria case .
He was engaged on terrorism in other countrys and he killed over 16 spaniards when he tried to kill Altamarino on madrid .
And he was caught rend handed and was one of the reasons the spanish judge Garzon wanted him for Trial on spain on the 90s.

Tentarro
03-11-2021, 09:41 PM
If u gonna claim u know history, by the way atleast try to be accurate and dont act like a mongoloid turd.

Pinochet DINA did not just rooted communist people but anyone who talked or dissent his regime, it did kidnap and killed even foreing people like journalists and even politics of other countrys wich torutred and killed like Carmelo soria case .
He was engaged on terrorism in other countrys and he killed over 16 spaniards when he tried to kill Altamarino on madrid .
And he was caught rend handed and was one of the reasons the spanish judge Garzon wanted him for Trial on spain on the 90s.

So basically in a roundabout way, you're just confirming what I said. He killed communists and those opposing him.

Cassawary
03-11-2021, 10:27 PM
someone in here is making conservatives look like retards and it ain't horza

Snortles Chortles
03-11-2021, 10:28 PM
https://i.imgur.com/oCNr4o9.jpg

Medris
03-11-2021, 10:33 PM
Ok, this thread is off the rails. Closing it out now.

Go camp something in-game instead of camping RnF =-)

Happy Hunting!
Medris