Corona Virus Vaccine, would you take it?

[Lizard1]

Will you get the vaccine when available or do you feel its not safe?

[imperiouskitten]

will take pretty immediately unless there's indication of ppl developing full infections (aka virus not attenuated enough). Unfortunately there's no microchipping possibility yet, or else world would be awesomer.

[Woke Locc]

I might but I think it will harm me :(

[Domo]

I would take it even if there would be a 90% chance of my dying. Its still better than to listen to all these crazy Anti-Vaccine motherfuckers who dont have any clue about medicine but still telling you that its bad for you because its not made by nature or god.

Go dance your name in the forest hippies!

[BarnabusCollins]

If I take it and die, I'm suing you'll hear from my attorney I promise. I'll be receiving damages from beyond the grave I want a yearly pension, that lasts forever. My attorney is hot her name is Julie Oni.

[magnetaress]

Maybe. Leaning on 40% towards yes, if I happened to be at the clinic and everyone was getting it and like 5 ppl I know irl got it and lived like a week without dying, I would maybe even be ok with temporary severe complications.

Bte I very much appreciate the replies in the other threads. I am digging all the links Jibartik.

Y'all have a great night.

Also I feel forced/compelled to vote hormones. God bless.

[Tunabros]

ill take it but be kinda skeptical they better test that shit out first

[BiG SiP]

**chomps** on vaccine pills in Q1 2022

[Scratch&Sniff]

If I take it and die, I'm suing you'll hear from my attorney I promise. I'll be receiving damages from beyond the grave I want a yearly pension, that lasts forever. My attorney is hot her name is Julie Oni.

sorry your not allowed to sue, at least in America its total BS, Hi huggies btw!

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/300aa-22

(a)General rule
Except as provided in subsections (b), (c), and (e) State law shall apply to a civil action brought for damages for a vaccine-related injury or death.

(b)Unavoidable adverse side effects; warnings
(1)No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, if the injury or death resulted from side effects that were unavoidable even though the vaccine was properly prepared and was accompanied by proper directions and warnings.

https://www.kfyrtv.com/2020/10/19/drugmakers-cant-be-sued-for-covid-19-vaccine-complications-due-to-amended-legislation/

[Trexller]

All polls without a selection for Bush/911/Towers are null and void.

[Shourty]

I haven't had a flu shot since 1975. Haven't had the flu either. Probably won't get this shot. Family will pressure me but I'm not smart enough to be concerned.

[Lune]

Getting it ASAP. FIL is high up in vaccine development, works with Fauci and has consulted on all the major vaccines, and he keeps me apprised. When these vaccines are available they will have passed phase III trials and will therefore be backed by the same scientific rigor that makes everything else, that every fucking dope in the Western World takes for granted, run. Trials have been very successful with minimal adverse events and high rates of protection.

The internet as it currently exists is the great disaster of our time; not an economic disaster, or a natural one, but an intellectual disaster. Hundreds of millions of people were given a voice along with access to the sum of human knowledge, without the cognitive skills or social structure to navigate it successfully. The result has been radicalization and thought cults, and the viral spread of misinformation, lies, propaganda, and just plain stupid opinions. The voice of experts who have actual knowledge on issues, based on factual evidence, and the surrogates who can recognize that and amplify their signal, is drowned out by millions of idiots on Facebook who think they are qualified to spread their take to anyone who will listen.

It's literally the intellectual death of a generation by memes and it's far scarier than Trump, coronavirus, 9/11, or anything else I've seen in my life. We used to have professionals who would filter fact from fiction, experts from village idiots, making sure the things we heard on a day to day basis were well curated. It wasn't perfect. There were a lot of things we didn't learn about it, and it was vulnerable to manipulation by the people who hold society's reins, but that imperfection was nothing compared to this. It's done to boomers exactly what they told us video games would do when we were kids-- rotted their fucking brains out.

It all looks pretty grim. I think the only solution is to somehow remove anonymity from the internet, tie every bit of your presence to your real life persona and credentials, and then adjust all the various levers and algorithms such that your ability to reach people with posts about topics that you really know nothing about is severely limited. That and teach children intensively how to spot misinformation. I thought it was intuitive but apparently it's not. The sad thing is I doubt any of that shit would work. I think we're just fucked and I'm just doomed to spend the rest of my life constantly running into people who tell me some of the most stupid shit I've ever heard, hot off the presses from instagram.

You can literally notice a difference over the last 10 years right here on this very board. Lots of people with lots of stupid opinions 2011-2013, but most of it was home grown and was based on actual real matters of personal philosophy, like the merits of fiscal conservatism vs. socialism, not the outright lies and conspiracy theories that dominate this board now.

[Jibartik]

I would argue it is an ecomical disaster as well.

Unless you think like ultra rich people and peasants is good economics, because that's all it created lol

The dumbness I dont think the internet is to blame, that reminds me of blaming religion for a bunch of decisions man makes.

I think you are just laying witness to how astoundingly dumb, humanity is. Not that it's making people dumber.

Every day, more people are getting online, and that just increases the ratio of dumb. So the illusion is that we're becoming dumber, but we're not, we're just giving more people the ability to do things. That increases the rate at which dumb people can do things. And that increases the rate in which you witness dumb people doing dumb things.

The equation would be like

People + more people = exponential increase in dumb.

[Jibartik]

This gif illustrates how the more people you give access to something, the more dumb people gain control of it until the not dumb people are so outnumbered they become the same as the dumb people.

It's a like law of relativity with humans.

https://i.imgur.com/fSOrDh5.gif

[Lune]

I don't think the ratio of dumb:not dumb has changed, just that the mechanisms that were in place to keep dumb people from communicating with each other and egging each other on have broken down.

More of the dumb people used to at least listen to smart people, or at least the media they had access to had a lower concentration of abject falsehoods.

[Jibartik]

at frist its just the creators and early adapters, but quickly as soon as the rest of the world discovers it, whatever it is, rockabilly, goth, whatever jesus said, you name it, the war is lost.

https://i.imgur.com/B1Y3zmc.gif

[Jibartik]

I don't think the ratio of dumb:not dumb has changed, just that the mechanisms that were in place to keep dumb people from communicating with each other and egging each other on have broken down.

More of the dumb people used to at least listen to smart people, or at least the media they had access to had a lower concentration of abject falsehoods.

Hmm thats what I mean, that the ratio is the same the mechanisms allow for more people access.

So what you SEE is an increase in dumb, and the fact is that it's just you're laying witness to the same dumb we've always been.

Also you see how in the infographic, eventually the dumb just usurp the smart, and there is no smart anymore and the dumb and not dumb are both pointing to same place? That's what causes that "the dumb people used to listen to the smart people."

Now there are more people that can deliver news, so more dumb news is spread, etc. More news = More Dumb news.

More people have access to anything = more dumb takes over until it's so much bigger than the not dumb that the not dumb is just gone and only the dumb prevails.

The not dumb usually move on to some other place, mars for example. Since we've filled out the full frame of the earth, like that gif there is no room for not dumb people anymore.

[Jibartik]

It's the "this is why we cant have nice things" ratio, I think it should be called.

[imperiouskitten]

I don't think the ratio of dumb:not dumb has changed, just that the mechanisms that were in place to keep dumb people from communicating with each other and egging each other on have broken down.

More of the dumb people used to at least listen to smart people, or at least the media they had access to had a lower concentration of abject falsehoods.

As sad as I am to admit it, I agree. I see the internet not as a great liberator anymore but more like an Illuminatus might see it, like shit the training and indoctrination pipeline we designed since Greece is totally breaking down and people are coming out completely mangled.

[imperiouskitten]

All polls without a selection for Bush/911/Towers are null and void.

[Woke Locc]

Getting it ASAP. FIL is high up in vaccine development, works with Fauci and has consulted on all the major vaccines, and he keeps me apprised. When these vaccines are available they will have passed phase III trials and will therefore be backed by the same scientific rigor that makes everything else, that every fucking dope in the Western World takes for granted, run. Trials have been very successful with minimal adverse events and high rates of protection.

The internet as it currently exists is the great disaster of our time; not an economic disaster, or a natural one, but an intellectual disaster. Hundreds of millions of people were given a voice along with access to the sum of human knowledge, without the cognitive skills or social structure to navigate it successfully. The result has been radicalization and thought cults, and the viral spread of misinformation, lies, propaganda, and just plain stupid opinions. The voice of experts who have actual knowledge on issues, based on factual evidence, and the surrogates who can recognize that and amplify their signal, is drowned out by millions of idiots on Facebook who think they are qualified to spread their take to anyone who will listen.

It's literally the intellectual death of a generation by memes and it's far scarier than Trump, coronavirus, 9/11, or anything else I've seen in my life. We used to have professionals who would filter fact from fiction, experts from village idiots, making sure the things we heard on a day to day basis were well curated. It wasn't perfect. There were a lot of things we didn't learn about it, and it was vulnerable to manipulation by the people who hold society's reins, but that imperfection was nothing compared to this. It's done to boomers exactly what they told us video games would do when we were kids-- rotted their fucking brains out.

It all looks pretty grim. I think the only solution is to somehow remove anonymity from the internet, tie every bit of your presence to your real life persona and credentials, and then adjust all the various levers and algorithms such that your ability to reach people with posts about topics that you really know nothing about is severely limited. That and teach children intensively how to spot misinformation. I thought it was intuitive but apparently it's not. The sad thing is I doubt any of that shit would work. I think we're just fucked and I'm just doomed to spend the rest of my life constantly running into people who tell me some of the most stupid shit I've ever heard, hot off the presses from instagram.

You can literally notice a difference over the last 10 years right here on this very board. Lots of people with lots of stupid opinions 2011-2013, but most of it was home grown and was based on actual real matters of personal philosophy, like the merits of fiscal conservatism vs. socialism, not the outright lies and conspiracy theories that dominate this board now.

I think it will make me sterile, like in the Sliders episode.

[imperiouskitten]

will take pretty immediately unless there's indication of ppl developing full infections (aka virus not attenuated enough). Unfortunately there's no microchipping possibility yet, or else world would be awesomer.

I just learned it's a mRNA vaccine, which means there's no attenuated virus involved. I will def take.

[BarnabusCollins]

Teenager arrested in Wisconsin mall shooting that injured eight - Weber did not identify the teen or say what charges he may face. Well then he's not white, or the headline would have been 'White right-wing extremist arrested in Wisconsin mall shooting'

[imperiouskitten]

Teenager arrested in Wisconsin mall shooting that injured eight - Weber did not identify the teen or say what charges he may face. Well then he's not white, or the headline would have been 'White right-wing extremist arrested in Wisconsin mall shooting'

Disturbing that you're feeling so much about this

[FatherSioux]

IQ rises steadily across time, people are most definitely not getting dumber. Dumb people can't snag mates as well as smarties.

Dumb people of old are now slightly smarter, plus they have access to many tools to polish the turds they sell.

The internet is in the top 5 of most influential inventions/discoveries in human history.

[magnetaress]

So you're all on board? My train to utopia?

[Topgunben]

I don’t think I’ll be taking it, at least not the first vaccine released. . At 34 years old I am pretty safe I think. But my dad who is 74 probably should.

If the government tries to make the vaccine mandatory, that is going to be a problem.

[BarnabusCollins]

74 would be even the more reason not to trust an undocumented vaccine bro.

They were alive, and died. And look now; They are alive forevermore.

Eat it, Satan. Eat it.

[magnetaress]

I think if you want to kill people a vaccine program is not a cost efficient way to terminate lives. Based on that alone, I doubt there is 'maleficence' behind any such vaccine, except that it may be mostly saline with a lil bit of something that we pay for, so snake oil maybe. Or some kind of training to get us more obedient to free injections of goodies.

I feel like snake oil is the preview of medicines 'sin', but if people I trust say it's trustworthy, I wouldn't argue to hard against it or be very afraid.

But there is also good in medicine and not all parties are evil. Nor even those that are cutthroat in their pricing or cost. Entirely evil. It's not so black and white. The vaccine could be a lot more expensive than it needs to be, yet still work. And the people in the backroom twisting proteins in a microscope may genuinely be pouring their good will into their work.

[Woke Locc]

Disturbing that you're feeling so much about this

15 should be more shocking than any racial argle bargle :(

[imperiouskitten]

15 is more shocking than any racial argle bargle :(

whats 15?

[BarnabusCollins]

I think if you want to sterilize people a massive federally-mandated vaccine program is the most cost efficient way to prevent births.

Then, the next agenda, to remove 90% of the population.

God's will will be done, whatever it may be. I can promise you that.

[imperiouskitten]

Ok well if the vaccine sterilizes people who take it, I'll start taking antivax seriously. Seems pretty unlikely!

[BarnabusCollins]

Ok well if the vaccine sterilizes people who take it, I'll start taking antivax seriously. Seems pretty unlikely!

It seems unlikely because it's evil to you? Wake up.

I L L U M I N A T I Satan; worship God Almighty your Father.

[Shourty]

IQ rises steadily across time, people are most definitely not getting dumber. Dumb people can't snag mates as well as smarties.

Dumb people of old are now slightly smarter, plus they have access to many tools to polish the turds they sell.


This is an interesting position to take. There is no way to prove or disprove it. Well played in that regard.
However, I propose that folks are the same now as they were thousands of years ago. There were genius' then as well as louts, just as there are today.
Louts can and do snag mates. Said mates may also or may not be louts and need to have a partner as much as anyone else, so that comment needs more thought. Consider the smart guy or gal that picks their mate based on their physical attractiveness and not their mental prowess.

[BarnabusCollins]

Dumb people are mating at a rate never foreseen. Dumb people of old are as dumb as God ever made them. The time to repent was NOW. He's 109 and still kills for Christ's sake!
Thou shalt not kill motherfucker!!!!

If you ever seek the mind of the Christ of God Almighty, beware, and be prepared to give up any normal earthly existence (as you formerly knew).
Be prepared for longsuffering, one of the Fruits of the Spirit.

[imperiouskitten]

IQ rises steadily across time, people are most definitely not getting dumber. Dumb people can't snag mates as well as smarties.

Dumb people of old are now slightly smarter, plus they have access to many tools to polish the turds they sell.

The internet is in the top 5 of most influential inventions/discoveries in human history.

The intent of the statement is to call attention that false doctrines are very well-reinforced by the net, and a profound ignorance can be sustained to the extent of flat-earthing, complete with the illusion of a critically-thinking social circle. The notion of "authority figures" has collapsed completely along with public trust in the postwar narrative and American institutions. Care for the classical norms of our civilization are also disintegrating, with majorities cheering on street violence, censorship honestly seeming necessary even to me perhaps, etc. :( So now, dumb people THINK they are much smarter than they are, and instead of being too embarrassed and lonely and impoverished to speak about it they squawk excitedly because they've confused all professed "experts" as equal, and therefore all of "informed opinion" as a choice of preferred aesthetics. After all, global warming isn't real and therefore all of science is out the window.

Since the most preferred aesthetic is vicious, short-term-minded anti-intellectualism we are placed in peril. The plebs are united in stupidity and our malfeasant leaders are not standing up to the Net's scrutiny sufficiently to impart a wise Daddy Dom energy into their little heads, unless they spew a bunch of hateful and ignorant bs to ride along. What's worse, we've been declining for so long now that even our rulers are just as stupid as most of you. If you watched Joe Rogan's rise you will understand what values are selling presently. Vacant "curiosity". Barely-hidden animus. Etc.

We should have demanded that every American citizen receive sufficient education in physics, chemistry and biology to develop a worldview grounded in scientific theory. Everyone should have done the optical experiments and chemistry to demonstrate atomic theory and the incredible granularity of our understanding of certain matters. I should be able to talk basic genetics and the mechanisms of vaccines etc with anyone. And they should have a realistic understanding of what is feasible at the outer limits of today's scientific theory. Every American citizen should feel comfortable disagreeing with a very "qualified" charlatan who's lying about the very basic building blocks of the physical world, instead of deferring to authority whenever convenient.

For instance the vaccine is not going to microchip or sterilize you, I promise. If it were doing either of these things, it would be extremely easily found-out. I sure wish technology were that advanced. Wouldn't you care to know about it if it were???

On the flip-side, COVID-19 was as likely engineered in a laboratory (yes, really.) as it is to have appeared naturally. It's a splice of several unlikely germs which appeared in a highly suspect location. It could have been recombined thus naturally, or equally plausibly, created in a laboratory. So you see, bothering to learn shit does bring some excitement and anti-establishment POV. Instead of flowing in the most typical tardo channels. Buying in to Russiagate 2. Election Fraud that Trump was telegraphing he would whine about no matter WHAT if he lost, 2 weeks before the election even happened, even tho he had no specific leads to reference then or now...

[BarnabusCollins]

For instance the vaccine is not going to sterilize you, I promise.

WELL THERE YOU HAVE IT FOLKS, ALL IS GOOD, HE PROMISED.

All sarcasm aside, this is how it really is. If God Almighty wants mass sterilization, it will occur.
Otherwise, it will not. I did NOT learn this from he Bible. I learned it from REAL life (after i had just burned my bible up cover to cover)

I'm not building me up. I'm not putting anyone down. I'm not bragging or boasting. His (God Almighty) will WILL be done, whatever it is.

Everything we love - he created.
Everything we hate - he willed.
He demands we go through longsuffering to stand beside Him and its NOT easy.
He demands we love one another, as he loved us.
His will will be done. Be it so.

He said to me, "If you do not repent I will come and fight against you with the sword of my mouth." Trust me folks, repent.

[Woke Locc]

whats 15?

The shooter kid

[imperiouskitten]

For instance the vaccine is not going to sterilize you, I promise.

WELL THERE YOU HAVE IT FOLKS, ALL IS GOOD, HE PROMISED.

All sarcasm aside, this is how it really is. If God Almighty wants mass sterilization, it will occur.
Otherwise, it will not. I did NOT learn this from he Bible. I learned it from REAL life (after i had just burned my bible up cover to cover)

I'm not building me up. I'm not putting anyone down. I'm not bragging or boasting. His (God Almighty) will WILL be done, whatever it is.

Everything we love - he created.
Everything we hate - he willed.
He demands we go through longsuffering to stand beside Him and its NOT easy.
He demands we love one another, as he loved us.
His will will be done. Be it so.

He said to me, "If you do not repent I will come and fight against you with the sword of my mouth." Trust me folks, repent.

OK nutjob

[BarnabusCollins]

OK nutjob

This man casts outs Beelzebub with the help of Beelzebub, surely he is crazy!
Free Babaras!

[Lizard1]

I haven't had a flu shot since 1975. Haven't had the flu either. Probably won't get this shot. Family will pressure me but I'm not smart enough to be concerned.

I was against flu shots all my life as well, and after having the flu for 3 weeks i will get one every year. I dont want to be one of those stubborn fools that has to learn by experiencing something the hard way but in this instance i was. The flu is horrible beyond what you can imagine and the shot is safe and free, get it trust me.

Teenager arrested in Wisconsin mall shooting that injured eight - Weber did not identify the teen or say what charges he may face. Well then he's not white, or the headline would have been 'White right-wing extremist arrested in Wisconsin mall shooting'

Not going to lie this made me laugh

IQ rises steadily across time, people are most definitely not getting dumber. Dumb people can't snag mates as well as smarties.

Dumb people of old are now slightly smarter, plus they have access to many tools to polish the turds they sell.

The internet is in the top 5 of most influential inventions/discoveries in human history.

Going to agree father, i use the internet almost all day for positive things and i learn everyday from it, its the people who dont want to better themselves or learn that waste all their time on it. Its their choice

I don’t think I’ll be taking it, at least not the first vaccine released. . At 34 years old I am pretty safe I think. But my dad who is 74 probably should.

If the government tries to make the vaccine mandatory, that is going to be a problem.

Your safety level is based on genetics, if you have not gotten sick yet you are genetically strong to that particular strain and you may not need it. I dont believe anyone in the US has not been exposed to covid yet, its everyplace.

This man casts outs Beelzebub with the help of Beelzebub, surely he is crazy!
Free Babaras!

Whos babaras precious.

Also need more votes, real topic

[kjs86z]

hard pass for me

[Lizard1]

Why kj , you need to give us more info

[kjs86z]

Why kj , you need to give us more info

no need to risk it - my immune system is fine

fuck everyone else i hope you idiots suffer horrible side effects

[strongNpretty]

I kinda don't really care either way... I'll take it for 2 reasons-

1- If my country asks me to take it for the greater good of the country, then yeah ill take it. It's too exhausting to live life thinking conspiracy every 2 seconds... If i end up having nano technology weaved across my brain like a spider web, then so be it...

2- If enough people i'm comfortable with or around all approve or suggest taking it, then that's all i need to know. Lemme get that then.

[kjs86z]

I kinda don't really care either way... I'll take it for 2 reasons-

1- If my country asks me to take it for the greater good of the country, then yeah ill take it. It's too exhausting to live life thinking conspiracy every 2 seconds... If i end up having nano technology weaved across my brain like a spider web, then so be it...

2- If enough people i'm comfortable with or around all approve or suggest taking it, then that's all i need to know. Lemme get that then.

Thats all well and good but I'll give it a few years to see what the potential side effects are.

imagine being one of the first 10 million people to willingly sign up for this lmao

[strongNpretty]

Thats all well and good but I'll give it a few years to see what the potential side effects are.

imagine being one of the first 10 million people to willingly sign up for this lmao

Oh yeah i hear ya dude. Not tryin to spend the rest of my days in a hospital bed.. Just sayin, when you poor like me- you just kinda dont care about covid haha.. whatever makes the masses happy- ill do. I'm that guy who would donate himself for the trials cause i need that money for the holidays man...

U want me to wear a mask, ok no problem. You want me to take that vaccine, ok no problem... I won't ask any questions there.. But god damnit can i get another stimulus check here please?!

[Lune]

Thats all well and good but I'll give it a few years to see what the potential side effects are.

imagine being one of the first 10 million people to willingly sign up for this lmao

no need to risk it - my immune system is fine

fuck everyone else i hope you idiots suffer horrible side effects


Best evidence says your risk of experiencing harmful side effects from this vaccine is orders of magnitude lower than suffering potentially deadly complications or long-term damage from covid. You have no idea whether your immune system is fine because it's not as straightforward as the "strength" of your immune system. It's purely genetic roulette. Many covid deaths are due to exaggerated immune response, not lack of a strong enough immune response.

Additionally, it's not just about you. Widespread vaccinations protect those in society who are most vulnerable by decreasing aggregate rates of infection. No, not just fatties and smokers, but people with genetic disorders and innocent 80 y/o grannies who never did anything except get old. You may be fine, and in fact be completely asymptomatic, which means you're going to walk around spreading it to everyone else, including granny who is just trying to go to the store to get food.

Of course I never expected selfish, misinformed traitors like you to make the right decision on this. You've been on the wrong side of this the whole way through and it's not gonna stop til covid makes its rounds through this entire retarded country.

[charmcitysking]

We had this discussion yesterday at home. The majority of us would prefer to wait a while and see the potential side-effects - these vaccines are clearly being rushed into market in a number of countries and there has been quite a small test-pool size, relatively speaking.

People are so quick to throw the "anti-vaxxer tin foil hat" label on others whom are sceptical of the current vaccine offerings, but there are numerous examples of Pharmaceutical companies rushing vaccines and other treatments to market and having disastrous side-effects (certain Polio and HPV vaccines immediately come to mind). The firm which I up until very recently worked for here in Ireland represent GSK, which are STILL the subject of lawsuits over the Thalidomide disaster.

It really comes down to how the potential side-effects of the vaccine weigh against the symptoms of the coronavirus. I wish all of you whom are so sure of this remedy the best of luck.

[Baler]

When they come up with a non-synthetic aka natural vaccine I'll consider it. The synthetic vaccines have a publicly known record for having adverse side effects. And no that's not anything related to tinfoil people.

[Evia]

sorry your not allowed to sue, at least in America its total BS, Hi huggies btw!

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/300aa-22

(a)General rule
Except as provided in subsections (b), (c), and (e) State law shall apply to a civil action brought for damages for a vaccine-related injury or death.

(b)Unavoidable adverse side effects; warnings
(1)No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, if the injury or death resulted from side effects that were unavoidable even though the vaccine was properly prepared and was accompanied by proper directions and warnings.

https://www.kfyrtv.com/2020/10/19/drugmakers-cant-be-sued-for-covid-19-vaccine-complications-due-to-amended-legislation/


Yep. I learned that one after my kid died from his shots and I couldn’t hold anyone accountable.

[kjs86z]

Best evidence says your risk of experiencing harmful side effects from this vaccine is orders of magnitude lower than suffering potentially deadly complications or long-term damage from covid. You have no idea whether your immune system is fine because it's not as straightforward as the "strength" of your immune system. It's purely genetic roulette. Many covid deaths are due to exaggerated immune response, not lack of a strong enough immune response.

Additionally, it's not just about you. Widespread vaccinations protect those in society who are most vulnerable by decreasing aggregate rates of infection. No, not just fatties and smokers, but people with genetic disorders and innocent 80 y/o grannies who never did anything except get old. You may be fine, and in fact be completely asymptomatic, which means you're going to walk around spreading it to everyone else, including granny who is just trying to go to the store to get food.

Of course I never expected selfish, misinformed traitors like you to make the right decision on this. You've been on the wrong side of this the whole way through and it's not gonna stop til covid makes its rounds through this entire retarded country.

Good. The world could use a lot less people.

Sorry reality upsets you.

[charmcitysking]

Yep. I learned that one after my kid died from his shots and I couldn’t hold anyone accountable.

Very sorry to hear this. You and your family deserve better.

[DoodyLich666]

It will be interesting to see how this vaccination process plays out. Will our society be split into castes based upon whether or not we have the shots? My thought experiments keep taking me to a future in which establishments refuse to service people who don’t have their “immunization passport” up to date. COVID has certainly set the stage for many years of strange conversations.

[7thGate]

Of course I'm going to take it.

Vaccines are stage fights for your immune system so you don't have to fight the real thing. Its like if you were forced to fight a black bear to the death in gladitorial combat, and someone asks if hey, want us to drug it unconsious first?

People refusing the vaccines be like "nah, that bear's small, I'm a fucking badass, I'll just beat it to death live." Ok bro, you have fun with that, but I'll take my bear tranqed, thanks.

Sure, you -can- die from a vaccine, just like you -can- die in a fight with an unconsious bear (punch it, break your wrist, sever an artery, bleed to death) but lol if you can't win when the opponent is completely crippled out of the gate how do you think you would have fared when its trying to eat you?

[magnetaress]

On my news feed today: doctors should warn of serious side effects from covid vaccine.

I'm guessing worse than a typical flu shot.

[FatherSioux]

Of course I'm going to take it.

Vaccines are stage fights for your immune system so you don't have to fight the real thing. Its like if you were forced to fight a black bear to the death in gladitorial combat, and someone asks if hey, want us to drug it unconsious first?

People refusing the vaccines be like "nah, that bear's small, I'm a fucking badass, I'll just beat it to death live." Ok bro, you have fun with that, but I'll take my bear tranqed, thanks.

Sure, you -can- die from a vaccine, just like you -can- die in a fight with an unconsious bear (punch it, break your wrist, sever an artery, bleed to death) but lol if you can't win when the opponent is completely crippled out of the gate how do you think you would have fared when its trying to eat you?


I found the sheep guys.

[kjs86z]

I found the sheep guys.

amen

[Lune]

I found the sheep guys.

Who is the sheep, the person who understands factual information or the person who gets led astray by bullshit on facebook, twitter, federalist society, and fox news?

I think it's very telling that the fundamental reasoning all you anti-vaxxers rest on when faced with the public health implications of your decision is this:

Good. The world could use a lot less people.

You don't care you who kill with your superspreading, which makes you terrible people.

[Danth]

Err...how is an un-vaccinated person spreading anything to vaccinated people if said vaccine works as advertised? Anti-vaxxers put themselves at risk, not other people.

I may take a corona vaccine eventually, but I'll let other folks line up to be the first wave of human guinea pigs.

Danth

[Lune]

Err...how is an un-vaccinated person spreading anything to vaccinated people if said vaccine works as advertised? Anti-vaxxers put themselves at risk, not other people.

I may take a corona vaccine eventually, but I'll let other folks line up to be the first wave of human guinea pigs.

Danth

1. In the early days of the vaccine, not enough vaccine will be available to vaccinate everybody

2. Some subset of the population is unable to tolerate vaccines, particularly severely immunocompromised people. Also, some of the potential vaccines produce lower titer levels in elderly individuals and it's unclear whether the protection for them will be as strong as is in younger people. Not an issue with Moderna or Pfizer vaccines as far as we know.

3. Children rely on their parents for sound decision-making. Anti-vaxxers put their children at risk by leaving them unvaccinated.

[Jibartik]

I'm just glad I fit in exactly the societal hole where I am not allowed to get it long enough for the hero's on the front lines trying to make the world a better place fighting to keep it from seizing, to show early side effects.

[magnetaress]

In that vein, l am willing to be a guinea pig 🐖 of sorts.

[charmcitysking]

3. Children rely on their parents for sound decision-making. Anti-vaxxers put their children at risk by leaving them unvaccinated.

Ugh.

Stop acting like this is a vaccine for measles or the mumps and that you know that you're getting what it says on the tin. It's a virus that isn't even a year old and one we hardly know anything about in the long-term. The vaccines have been rushed to market and developed using a very small testing pool.

Cringing at the thought of you having children that you're going to jab with this vaccine the first chance you can.

[Baler]

People throwing the word vaccine around but aren't properly labeling synthetic or natural.

If you do get the vaccine ask your doctor which it is and what's in it. By law they have to tell you. If your doctor can't tell you whats in it, find a new doctor.

Cringing at the thought of you having children that you're going to jab with this vaccine the first chance you can.

Lune is a bit OutThere with his ideals. it doesn't shock me.

(ps. i'm not anti vaccine, I'm pro science)

[Topgunben]

Err...how is an un-vaccinated person spreading anything to vaccinated people if said vaccine works as advertised? Anti-vaxxers put themselves at risk, not other people.

I may take a corona vaccine eventually, but I'll let other folks line up to be the first wave of human guinea pigs.

Danth

Truth.

The only real issue I have with anti vaxxers is that some diseases are a lot more harmful to the young compared to covid. For instance the measles vaccine is not recommended to be given prior to 12 months of age, so a baby could be at risk of an anti vaxxer transmitting said disease.

[kjs86z]

I love how leftist idiots like Lune assume you're anti vaxx if you're skeptical of a rushed vaccine.

[Gwaihir]

1. In the early days of the vaccine, not enough vaccine will be available to vaccinate everybody

2. Some subset of the population is unable to tolerate vaccines, particularly severely immunocompromised people. Also, some of the potential vaccines produce lower titer levels in elderly individuals and it's unclear whether the protection for them will be as strong as is in younger people. Not an issue with Moderna or Pfizer vaccines as far as we know.

3. Children rely on their parents for sound decision-making. Anti-vaxxers put their children at risk by leaving them unvaccinated.

#2 doesn't apply to a mRNA vaccine you fucking parrot

[Baler]

#2 doesn't apply to a mRNA vaccine you fucking parrot

TIL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messenger_RNA
very interesting and relevant. Pfizer and Moderna are working with this for example.

[kjs86z]

https://i.imgur.com/CBs61Vw.jpg

[Baler]

thanks for that nightmare fuel kjs86z

[Lune]

Ugh.

Stop acting like this is a vaccine for measles or the mumps and that you know that you're getting what it says on the tin. It's a virus that isn't even a year old and one we hardly know anything about in the long-term. The vaccines have been rushed to market and developed using a very small testing pool.

Cringing at the thought of you having children that you're going to jab with this vaccine the first chance you can.

These are not small trials with small testing pools. The timeline is truncated but the phase III trials involve tens of thousands of people with each vaccine, and hundreds of thousands across all three vaccines. That is a larger trial than many of the medications you'll be given if you end up in the hospital, and they will have far less side effects than many approved medications. If you ever end up in afib and they give you amiodarone, congrats your kidneys are probably fucked for life. Any medication and any vaccine is a risk benefit analysis. They give you amiodarone for afib because afib kills you. It's better to be alive with damaged kidneys than dead from a massive stroke because your atria stopped working.

Likewise, just as you said, coronavirus isn't even a year old. We have no idea what the long term effects of the virus are. We have people permanently losing their sense of smell, having their small blood vessels destroyed, getting blood clots, small strokes, and cardiomyopathy. These things aren't happening to the vaccinated people in the phase III trials. These are things that WE KNOW ARE HAPPENING to some people with covid. Now compare that to the remote, obscure possibility of long-term vaccine side effects which are stupidly rare in pretty much any vaccine ever administered. How can you look at these options and choose to risk getting fucked up by covid?

And that's making the assumption that you are young and healthy and your chance of severe covid symptoms is like 1 in 500. What about people who are old with comorbidities... diabetes, heart disease, COPD, etc, whose chance of severe symptoms or death is closer to 1 in 100 to 1 in 10 depending on their health. Are you going to tell them not to get the vaccine because you're worried about the possibility of 1 in 1,000,000 Guillain-Barre?

Hint: If your anwer is some variation of "There's too many people on Earth / They shouldn't have gotten heart disease or diabetes / They are old and want to die anyway", then you're a dumbass psychopath and shouldn't be giving advice, sharing opinions, or entrusted with the care of anybody.

#2 doesn't apply to a mRNA vaccine you fucking parrot

That's why I included the two mRNA vaccines in #2 you fucking illiterate.

[Lizard1]

This vaccine isnt like others, its a simple immuno response that will need to be boosted yearly, like a flu vaccine.

[Gwaihir]

These are not small trials with small testing pools. The timeline is truncated but the phase III trials involve tens of thousands of people with each vaccine, and hundreds of thousands across all three vaccines. That is a larger trial than many of the medications you'll be given if you end up in the hospital, and they will have far less side effects than many approved medications. If you ever end up in afib and they give you amiodarone, congrats your kidneys are probably fucked for life. Any medication and any vaccine is a risk benefit analysis. They give you amiodarone for afib because afib kills you. It's better to be alive with damaged kidneys than dead from a massive stroke because your atria stopped working.

Likewise, just as you said, coronavirus isn't even a year old. We have no idea what the long term effects of the virus are. We have people permanently losing their sense of smell, having their small blood vessels destroyed, getting blood clots, small strokes, and cardiomyopathy. These things aren't happening to the vaccinated people in the phase III trials. These are things that WE KNOW ARE HAPPENING to some people with covid. Now compare that to the remote, obscure possibility of long-term vaccine side effects which are stupidly rare in pretty much any vaccine ever administered. How can you look at these options and choose to risk getting fucked up by covid?

And that's making the assumption that you are young and healthy and your chance of severe covid symptoms is like 1 in 500. What about people who are old with comorbidities... diabetes, heart disease, COPD, etc, whose chance of severe symptoms or death is closer to 1 in 100 to 1 in 10 depending on their health. Are you going to tell them not to get the vaccine because you're worried about the possibility of 1 in 1,000,000 Guillain-Barre?

Hint: If your anwer is some variation of "There's too many people on Earth / They shouldn't have gotten heart disease or diabetes / They are old and want to die anyway", then you're a dumbass psychopath and shouldn't be giving advice, sharing opinions, or entrusted with the care of anybody.



That's why I included the two mRNA vaccines in #2 you fucking illiterate.

The short answer is no. I won't be taking any mRNA vaccines; nor will my children.

I don't care how many paragraphs and false equivalencies you write.

You're a dipshit.

[Woke Locc]

People throwing the word vaccine around but aren't properly labeling synthetic or natural.


what would be in a 'natural' vaccine? I've never heard of such nonsense

[Baler]

what would be in a 'natural' vaccine? I've never heard of such nonsense

Yeah woke locc I know facts don't make sense to you. I don't understand how you can post with such confidence when you're so wrong. It's almost to the point, I think you're just trolling on purpose to stir the pot. Time after time you continue to say 'you're wrong' and then present no factual information to backup your claims.

You can get started learning what a Vaccine is here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine

[FatherSioux]

Who is the sheep, the person who understands factual information or the person who gets led astray by bullshit on facebook, twitter, federalist society, and fox news?

I think it's very telling that the fundamental reasoning all you anti-vaxxers rest on when faced with the public health implications of your decision is this:

You don't care you who kill with your superspreading, which makes you terrible people.

Not Anti-Vax, swing and a miss...bahhhhh goes the sheep.

[FatherSioux]

We have no idea what the long term effects of the virus are. We have people permanently losing their sense of smell.

The irony here is shocking.

Permanently implies no hope and no cure, not what's happening. These people have lost smell for at most a year. These things routinely turn around.

[Woke Locc]

Yeah woke locc I know facts don't make sense to you. I don't understand how you can post with such confidence when you're so wrong. It's almost to the point, I think you're just trolling on purpose to stir the pot. Time after time you continue to say 'you're wrong' and then present no factual information to backup your claims.

You can get started learning what a Vaccine is here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine

You're the one demanding natural, if you know just tell me what that means. I'm trying to learn stuff!

E: it sounded like you're talking About ingredients

[Gustoo]

If bristlebane handed me the vaccine as an AOE buff, I would cast it.

[imperiouskitten]

You're the one demanding natural, if you know just tell me what that means. I'm trying to learn stuff!

E: it sounded like you're talking About ingredients

he's talkn bout mrna vaccine vs mashed-up-virus vaccine. mRNA vaccine is basically gene therapy, aka they infect you with a virus which writes DNA into your cells. CLassical vaccines were just "attenuated viral agent", aka take virus and smash it up so it doesn't work right, but your body learns to recognize the various surfaces of the smashed virus and builds an immune response that prepares it for encountering active virons.

to explain the alternative to classical vaccines -- we are capable of using these viruses we found in the wild and reprogrammed to recognize a string of DNA and insert whatever string we want before/after it -- that's how gene therapy is done. I'm not sure exactly what DNA we add to make for immunity, but I bet we just add the right string to the sequences that encode for our immunoglobin's recognition factors (not actual terminology) which causes our immune response to recognize some common pattern on the coronavirus surface. To explain that: so, we have these immunoglobin proteins that basically spawn out and recognize various surfaces. It's a lock and key thing; if the lock of the immunoglobin fits the key of the encoded surface, then they bind together and the immunoglobin is triggered by that to murder the thing which bound to it. So we just take the "lock" sequence we either engineered or more likely extracted from a person with a developed immune response, and encode it into our immune system with gene therapy, and then we have an immune reponse ready for COVID without ever being exposed either to COVID or attenuated COVID.

This scares people because you're messing with their genome. These people probably don't understand how malleable their genome is. But it's probably safer than giving people boiled COVID. When you hear about people developing the flu from flu vaccine, it's because the virus in the vaccine was not properly killed. This approach removes all that. ANd I think will be the first instance of mass gene therapy, which as we all know made Snake very bad ass.

[Trexller]

Why do i need a covid vaccine? When green launched I farmed like 15 of these

https://wiki.project1999.com/Thex_Dagger

[Lune]

he's talkn bout mrna vaccine vs mashed-up-virus vaccine. mRNA vaccine is basically gene therapy, aka they infect you with a virus which writes DNA into your cells. CLassical vaccines were just "attenuated viral agent", aka take virus and smash it up so it doesn't work right, but your body learns to recognize the various surfaces of the smashed virus and builds an immune response that prepares it for encountering active virons.

to explain the alternative to classical vaccines -- we are capable of using these viruses we found in the wild and reprogrammed to recognize a string of DNA and insert whatever string we want before/after it -- that's how gene therapy is done. I'm not sure exactly what DNA we add to make for immunity, but I bet we just add the right string to the sequences that encode for our immunoglobin's recognition factors (not actual terminology) which causes our immune response to recognize some common pattern on the coronavirus surface. To explain that: so, we have these immunoglobin proteins that basically spawn out and recognize various surfaces. It's a lock and key thing; if the lock of the immunoglobin fits the key of the encoded surface, then they bind together and the immunoglobin is triggered by that to murder the thing which bound to it. So we just take the "lock" sequence we either engineered or more likely extracted from a person with a developed immune response, and encode it into our immune system with gene therapy, and then we have an immune reponse ready for COVID without ever being exposed either to COVID or attenuated COVID.

This scares people because you're messing with their genome. These people probably don't understand how malleable their genome is. But it's probably safer than giving people boiled COVID. When you hear about people developing the flu from flu vaccine, it's because the virus in the vaccine was not properly killed. This approach removes all that. ANd I think will be the first instance of mass gene therapy, which as we all know made Snake very bad ass.

That's close to how it works but not quite. mRNA vaccines don't permanently or even temporarily change the genome of anything-- they don't touch the genome. Cells use mRNA, which is transcripted as a 'copy' of a section of your genome, to encode the production of proteins elsewhere in the cell. Like if you think of a cell like a corporation that has a headquarters and a factory, your DNA is in the headquarters, which writes mRNA mail to send to the factory across town in the endoplasmic reticulum, which uses the mRNA directions to build a protein.

mRNA vaccines simply insert those directions directly into the cell, which takes them and makes them into immunity-significant pieces of the virus, which the cell then excretes. Those pieces get picked up by your immune system which recognizes--and destroys-- them when they show up again in the form of covid.

mRNA vaccines have a potential safety advantage in that they don't actually use any form of viable virus at all-- it is impossible for anyone to get infected with anything through the use of one. It is also cheaper and more efficient to mass produce. The downsides are that it is difficult and costly to transport and store because the mRNA is very fragile. We've also never mass produced and mass vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine before, but it's extremely cutting edge, and is thought to produce superior protection more safely than the traditional viral vector vaccines developed by Russia and China. But given the novelty we simply haven't seen how things pan out long term (multiple years). Still better than risking it tangling with covid as long as they finish out the phase III trials.

[Lune]

PS don't get the Astrazeneca vaccine. They fucked up their trial. They don't actually have 90% efficacy in their intervention group, it's only 64%. The 90% comes from a subset of 2,000 individuals in which their medical team in Brazil (lol) accidentally gave participants a smaller initial dose.

For whatever reason the media isn't really picking up on this.

[imperiouskitten]

That's close to how it works but not quite. mRNA vaccines don't permanently or even temporarily change the genome of anything-- they don't touch the genome. Cells use mRNA, which is transcripted as a 'copy' of a section of your genome, to encode the production of proteins elsewhere in the cell. Like if you think of a cell like a corporation that has a headquarters and a factory, your DNA is in the headquarters, which writes mRNA mail to send to the factory across town in the endoplasmic reticulum, which uses the mRNA directions to build a protein.

mRNA vaccines simply insert those directions directly into the cell, which takes them and makes them into immunity-significant pieces of the virus, which the cell then excretes. Those pieces get picked up by your immune system which recognizes--and destroys-- them when they show up again in the form of covid.

mRNA vaccines have a potential safety advantage in that they don't actually use any form of viable virus at all-- it is impossible for anyone to get infected with anything through the use of one. It is also cheaper and more efficient to mass produce. The downsides are that it is difficult and costly to transport and store because the mRNA is very fragile. We've also never mass produced and mass vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine before, but it's extremely cutting edge, and is thought to produce superior protection more safely than the traditional viral vector vaccines developed by Russia and China. But given the novelty we simply haven't seen how things pan out long term (multiple years). Still better than risking it tangling with covid as long as they finish out the phase III trials.

this sounds mostly right but -- how do you account for the durability of the vaccination if nothing is encoded permanently? where's the perma change? I thought the mRNA was used for the dna polymerase to transcribe into DNA in this case, not for it to be made into a protein ^^

[Lune]

this sounds mostly right but -- how do you account for the durability of the vaccination if nothing is encoded permanently? where's the perma change? I thought the mRNA was used for the dna polymerase to transcribe into DNA in this case, not for it to be made into a protein ^^

The durability comes from your immune system response to the viral antigen proteins that are produced using the mRNA, like any other vaccine. Specialized lymphocytes remember the antigens for as long as the rest of your life, and wandering macrophages will patrol the ghettos of your body racial profiling for covid.

mRNA is used by ribosomal subunits to make proteins directly. DNA polymerase is used to make DNA copies of other DNA in the nucleus. RNA polymerase, on the other hand, reads specific genes on your DNA genome and makes an mRNA transcript from that gene. In this case the mRNA is just being introduced from outside the cell, borne by vaccine, packaged in a small lipid nanoparticle.

It's just a different method of introducing the viral parts into your body. No actual virus involved so no chance of infection, and easier to mass produce.

[Lizard1]

Astrozeneca is the english vaccine, english people are dirt poor losers still worshipping a bunch of royal idiots, everything about europe sucks and england is the asshole everyone cant wait to lick

Gotta love america we got multiple companies sitting pretty at 90% already getting ready for distrubtion

as usual america wins

[imperiouskitten]

i forgot that mRNA is for protein synthesis by definition -_-

makes perfect sense, thank you for explaining :)

[Lune]

Astrozeneca is the english vaccine, english people are dirt poor losers still worshipping a bunch of royal idiots, everything about europe sucks and england is the asshole everyone cant wait to lick

Gotta love america we got multiple companies sitting pretty at 90% already getting ready for distrubtion

as usual america wins

It's going to be real embarrassing if mRNA vaccine technology doesn't work or works poorly, and the Russian and Chinese companies who went the traditional viral vector route produce a superior vaccine.

On the other hand, if it works, and works well, it's going to make Russia and China look like cave men.

[Topgunben]

It's going to be real embarrassing if mRNA vaccine technology doesn't work or works poorly, and the Russian and Chinese companies who went the traditional viral vector route produce a superior vaccine.

On the other hand, if it works, and works well, it's going to make Russia and China look like cave men.

We will never know. I dont trust the metrics for recording the success/failure of treating COVID, and I certainly will not trust anything coming out of China. China has only recorded that 86,000 people have gotten COVID, not bad for a country with over a billion people. Maybe they are lying?? Nah they wouldnt do that.

It is very possible that in 50 years, we will look at our reaction to covid similarly to how our fathers reacted to the Gulf of Tonkin.

[Lizard1]

It's going to be real embarrassing if mRNA vaccine technology doesn't work or works poorly, and the Russian and Chinese companies who went the traditional viral vector route produce a superior vaccine.

On the other hand, if it works, and works well, it's going to make Russia and China look like cave men.

Russia and china have never produced a superior anything, their countries are pure shit

Also, we have other companies who went the traditional way, i promise nothing innovative has ever come out of either shithole

[Kelika2]

Maybe, but im not taking the first or even second wave of vaccines. Same reason I do not buy a console or mobile device when it first comes out.

Thanks for beta testing whoeever voted yes.

[imperiouskitten]

Maybe, but im not taking the first or even second wave of vaccines. Same reason I do not buy a console or mobile device when it first comes out.

Thanks for beta testing whoeever voted yes.

Cool post Abdul

[imperiouskitten]

we lost a 9/11 of people to covid yesterday

and i still have to take off my shoes at the airport

[Raev]

The voice of experts who have actual knowledge on issues, based on factual evidence, and the surrogates who can recognize that and amplify their signal

At first I was dubious, but the lab coats convinced me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR98A70tbaA). If it saves even one life from corona virus . . .

[Nuggie]

Thanks for beta testing whoeever voted yes.

Basically this. Incase shit turns into "I Am Legend" I would way rather be Lt. Colonel Robert Neval (Will Smith) than a... "whatever the hell they are" things. Obviously this isn't going to happen. But just in case.

[Llanos]

If this were a real pandemic and bodies were piling up in the streets I would take it. Initial reports are showing its a 2 part booster. The side effects are worse than what most people get from the real Covid. And you have to get it a second time. To be fair the second dose isn't as bad, but still very unpleasant. Why would I want a vaccine that's worse than the actual virus that I may not even get for years. I haven't had the flu in about 10 years.

This is a money grab from the billionaires of the world. The coffers are a little dry. Hasn't been a major war in a while.

Before anyone freaks out. The actual virus is real. The manufactured fear is insane.

[Gwaihir]

Before anyone freaks out. The actual virus is real. The manufactured fear is insane.

Don't make concessions to dipshits who approach the matter with an all or nothing mindset.

Coronavirus has been around for as long as humanity has. It also goes under the name "common cold"

[Jimjam]

we lost a 9/11 of people to covid yesterday

and i still have to take off my shoes at the airport

Shoes off, masks on, thats the way we like to yank!

[Ravager]

PS don't get the Astrazeneca vaccine. They fucked up their trial. They don't actually have 90% efficacy in their intervention group, it's only 64%. The 90% comes from a subset of 2,000 individuals in which their medical team in Brazil (lol) accidentally gave participants a smaller initial dose.

For whatever reason the media isn't really picking up on this.
64% is better than nothing and a fair bit better than some of the flu vaccines they come out with. If we had a 64% vaccine at the start of this outbreak, it never would have gone so badly.


Take any of the vaccines regarded as safe that are available to you and we should be able to have a normal summer.

[BarnabusCollins]

Haha, bless your soul! You really think you're in control. I think you're craaazaaaaay. I think you're craaazaaay.

[Solemnus]

I'll take it when they remove the indemnity contracts that state you can't sue them for damages. The only possible reason they could need that is that they're expecting there to be damages and they're covering their asses. No one confident in their own product needs a legal agreement of immunity to prosecution.

And it's nothing new either. Pfizer, one of the big pharma companies making this new vaccine, have already paid over 7 billion in damages to people afflicted by their faulty drugs, including vaccines. The major proponents of this shit is usually coming from people like Lune who openly express their desire for a leftist authoritarian censorship nightmare of an internet where only opinions like their own are allowed to exist, too. "Other people don't agree with me" = "Other people are dumb" = "We should shut all those people up."

[Jibartik]

Lucky for me I am part of the cast system we have on earth, where I am not poor enough (a hero on the front lines) be forced to take it testing it for the rest of the world.

And not rich enough to have access to it for at least another 6 months.

So I think it will be well known what type of side effects it will have.

As long as people in the last 4 months dont start noticing that nobody has gotten pregnant, ill take it.

Gonna die of pancreatic cancer in like 30 years anyway, ya'll a bunch of geriatric everquest players now that sit on our asses, spoiler! lol

[Jibartik]

Russia and china have never produced a superior anything, their countries are pure shit

I think the SU is a superior air to air combat vehicle than the f22 or f15 because kinetic energy is useless against 2 of them.

[cd288]

I'll take it when they remove the indemnity contracts that state you can't sue them for damages. The only possible reason they could need that is that they're expecting there to be damages and they're covering their asses. No one confident in their own product needs a legal agreement of immunity to prosecution.

And it's nothing new either. Pfizer, one of the big pharma companies making this new vaccine, have already paid over 7 billion in damages to people afflicted by their faulty drugs, including vaccines. The major proponents of this shit is usually coming from people like Lune who openly express their desire for a leftist authoritarian censorship nightmare of an internet where only opinions like their own are allowed to exist, too. "Other people don't agree with me" = "Other people are dumb" = "We should shut all those people up."

The best way to have zero innovation or advancement in medicine is to allow 100% liability. Would not longer be worth it for these companies to put out products. Nobody is perfect and even less so when it comes to medicine and our bodies.

Indemnities aren't in contracts because you're expecting there to be damages. that's one of the dumbest statements I've seen in awhile. Indemnities are standard contractual provisions and any lawyer who didn't put one in should be sued for malpractice.

[Jibartik]

That sounds like draconian marxism to me.... or satan.

Smh I hope the aliens are out there because if this is what we think, they are right, we're def not ready for them lol

[Solemnus]

The best way to have zero innovation or advancement in medicine is to allow 100% liability. Would not longer be worth it for these companies to put out products.

I don't think vaccines you're giving to possibly billions of people for the first time is a great time to be concerned about "innovation or advancement" really - what you want is time tested safe treatments.

As for no longer being worth it... Pfizer profited over 5 billion dollars last year. I don't think they're really suffering.


Indemnities aren't in contracts because you're expecting there to be damages. that's one of the dumbest statements I've seen in awhile. Indemnities are standard contractual provisions and any lawyer who didn't put one in should be sued for malpractice.
I didn't mean this regarding all contracts, but in the case of experimental vaccines... yeah, fuck that. Big phara company who paid billions in fraud charges wants total immunity to prosecution for their experimental vaccine that has been rushed through safety trials and, according to you,
Nobody is perfect and even less so when it comes to medicine and our bodies.

All the more reason not to trust them. How you can even say that in one breathe and in the other say yes take vaccines they are 100% legit slurp them down like a milkshake bruh, I don't know (you didn't say that but others are).

Point is I don't trust anyone who doesn't trust their own shit enough to be willing to be held accountable for it.

[Jibartik]

Look, half the planet thinks that the virus is fake and masks are harmful, nobody should give those idiots any leeway to be like "this mask (vaccine) is causing breathing problems for me, I'm going to sue" under any circumstances.

Id legit be stoked if the laws was vaccination or death by firing squad via police who are yelling at you to stand up and sit down.

[Cassawary]

As for no longer being worth it... Pfizer profited over 5 billion dollars last year. I don't think they're really suffering.

What's a fair standard payout if the vaccine makes your wang fall off? How many experience the side effect? Who makes the next China vaccine when they go super-duper bankrupt?

[Shourty]

What's a fair standard payout if the vaccine makes your wang fall off? How many experience the side effect? Who makes the next China vaccine when they go super-duper bankrupt?

"makes your wang fall off", that smacks of some kind of cultural swipe especially mixed with "China vaccine" comment.
[troll]

[Trexller]

your wang falling off is a big deal regardless of nationality

[Cassawary]

"makes your wang fall off", that smacks of some kind of cultural swipe especially mixed with "China vaccine" comment.
[troll]

It wasn't on purpose sorry grampa

[Jimjam]

Big up Margaret, who is now a zombie drone controlled by Bill Gates!

[Exard3k]

I heard the altered DNA comes with a free 5G chip. Saves me quite a bit on a new phone. Win-Win as far as I can tell.

[cd288]

I don't think vaccines you're giving to possibly billions of people for the first time is a great time to be concerned about "innovation or advancement" really - what you want is time tested safe treatments.

As for no longer being worth it... Pfizer profited over 5 billion dollars last year. I don't think they're really suffering.


I didn't mean this regarding all contracts, but in the case of experimental vaccines... yeah, fuck that. Big phara company who paid billions in fraud charges wants total immunity to prosecution for their experimental vaccine that has been rushed through safety trials and, according to you,


All the more reason not to trust them. How you can even say that in one breathe and in the other say yes take vaccines they are 100% legit slurp them down like a milkshake bruh, I don't know (you didn't say that but others are).

Point is I don't trust anyone who doesn't trust their own shit enough to be willing to be held accountable for it.

You realize that probably every service you ever take advantage of has an indemnity you agree to right? Plane tickets, public transportation tickets, concerts, sporting events, pretty much every terms and conditions you’ve ever agreed to online, your phone and internet service plans, etc etc etc etc

So do you not use any of those things? Are you not going to get on a plane or train or bus because you agree to an indemnity when you buy the ticket?

Moron

[Llanos]

You realize that probably every service you ever take advantage of has an indemnity you agree to right? Plane tickets, public transportation tickets, concerts, sporting events, pretty much every terms and conditions you’ve ever agreed to online, your phone and internet service plans, etc etc etc etc

So do you not use any of those things? Are you not going to get on a plane or train or bus because you agree to an indemnity when you buy the ticket?

Moron

You can't be serious

[kjs86z]

anyone that gets this vaccine is an idiot

/thread

[cd288]

You can't be serious

I’m quite serious. Look at the terms and conditions on every ticket you’ve ever purchased for example. The commenter said he won’t use anything where the provider includes and indemnity because that means the provider plans to screw something up. If that’s the standard, then you really can’t use any service.

[kjs86z]

Aaaaand the UK reporting its first vaccine takers are having severe reactions.

lmao

[Mblake81]

Aaaaand the UK reporting its first vaccine takers are having severe reactions.

lmao

Get a close up shot of their expression.

[GinnasP99]

Dude what if it turns people into 28 days later zombies.

[kjs86z]

hopefully is just kills / sterilizes all the idiots that sign up to take it

[magnetaress]

get ready for a new round of autism everyone will blame on a vaccine, which is really caused by unchecked coal burning dumping mercury and radiation into the food chain lol, meanwhile enabling the people who own through your constant need to seek comfort to exploit you further for their amusement

[Jibartik]

Just thowring it out there:

The devil is a trickster, and if you've been tricked to not protect yourself from a painful an also deadly virus, you're the devils bitch.

See yall democrats at the beach in a few months having fun on gods earth, thanks to his creation!!!!!

stupid ass conservatives.

[magnetaress]

:nods:

[Jibartik]

The roman mark of the beast was clearly the legionary eagle.

The sign behind the man that tells you not to wear masks and not to take the vaccine is a legionary eagle.

Idiot evangelical conservative idiots think the mark is Nyquil. :rolleyes:

[Cassawary]

https://i.imgur.com/9AZp9t0.gif

[Jimjam]

Aaaaand the UK reporting its first vaccine takers are having severe reactions.

lmao

Not Margaret? She was meant to be the chosen one!

Well I guess Trump played well not to preorder Pfizer. Which vax is USA going with... i’m guessing as it’s a for profit free market there will be a range of providers to chose from and maximise consumer choice?

[Jimjam]

Dude what if it turns people into 28 days later zombies.

We’ve already planned this. We’re starting with the octo and nonagenarians.

[Jibartik]

'HURRR u r sheep!'

[Jimjam]

'HURRR u r sheep!'

Sheep are alright animals if you ask me.

[Jibartik]

Id rather be the sheep than follow the goat! :o

[Cassawary]

Sheep are alright animals if you ask me.

Welshman, eh?

[Jimjam]

Id rather be the sheep than follow the goat! :o

Goats are excellent climbers and can straight up kill a fully grown cow as well as bridge trolls.

Tbh I dunno if i could keep up with a goat.

Goats have good skin for textile, can make some nice dairy and a good curry but sheep’s wool and incredible growth is probably a stronger build for the y2k+ meta.

[Jimjam]

Welshman, eh?

Says the kiwi with a fancy bird pic! We know you’re just south pole welsh!

[Jibartik]

Goats are excellent climbers and can straight up kill a fully grown cow as well as bridge trolls.

Tbh I dunno if i could keep up with a goat.

Goats have good skin for textile, can make some nice dairy and a good curry but sheep’s wool and incredible growth is probably a stronger build for the y2k+ meta.

yeah but im not a goat, so if i follow that goat I will fall down the cliff.

But the sheep, they just graze in the green pastures and I enjoy that lifestyle.

Im a sheep, taxes are my wool.

bahh

[Mblake81]

If I had to, which my job might make me. I wouldn't do it by choice, I don't take flu shots.

[Jibartik]

Im that anoying friend that says "I never get the flu and I have never had a flu shot!"

I saw a ted talk where a guy said that guy may have a strong immune system, and I was like.

FINALLY IM THE STRONG ONE

https://i.imgur.com/LzBxHOx.png

Truth is I prob just live a life of social distancing /cry

[Mblake81]

FINALLY IM THE STRONG ONE

fear me, mortal.

[Jibartik]

bah bahh bahh!

[Mblake81]

I am a sheep!

A talking sheep? the Internet thinks it can pull a fast one.. hah, not today my friend. Not today.

[Jibartik]

idk what you're talkin about

i mean bahh!

:p

[strongNpretty]

Life already too short and stressful to spend my time worrying about what the government is up to.. If somebody who matters in my life asks me to take the vaccine, then ill take it.. No big deal. If i spend the rest of my life with nano technology webbed across my brain like a spider web due to the vaccine, then so be it.

I'm just trying to pay this months bills man.... And next month? I'll just be worried about paying that months bills.. Got no time for conspiracy theories unless they payin...

[Jimjam]

Life already too short and stressful to spend my time worrying about what the government is up to.. If somebody who matters in my life asks me to take the vaccine, then ill take it.. No big deal. If i spend the rest of my life with nano technology webbed across my brain like a spider web due to the vaccine, then so be it.

I'm just trying to pay this months bills man.... And next month? I'll just be worried about paying that months bills.. Got no time for conspiracy theories unless they payin...
Subsistence Capitalism?
Conspiracy theories?
https://i.imgur.com/IJwGjdE.png
Stockholm Syndrome (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3We6t-Y16Xs)

[Mblake81]

I'm just trying to pay this months bills man.... And next month? I'll just be worried about paying that months bills.. Got no time for conspiracy theories unless they payin...

That's right.

[Swish]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1370264/Pfizer-vaccine-warning-covid-regulator-allergic-reaction-warning-latest

Pfizer vaccine warning: Two people suffer allergic reaction – regulator issues new advice

THE coronavirus vaccine rollout has suffered a setback after UK regulators warned people who have a history of "significant" allergic reactions should not currently receive the Pfizer/BioNTech jab.

The warning comes after two members of NHS staff who had the COVID-19 jab on Tuesday - the first day of the mass vaccination programme - had allergic reactions. Both are said to be "recovering well" and the NHS in England has informed all trusts involved with the vaccination rollout. The news prompted the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) to issue precautionary advice to NHS trusts that anyone who has a history of "significant" allergic reactions to medicines, food or vaccines should not receive the vaccine.

Well tested and safe then :rolleyes:

[Nachtsuchen]

I already got sick -- it was very unpleasant. I know it doesn't make me immune to future mutations of it, but I'd rather take my changes getting sick again than risk what a rushed-out vaccine will do to me. Horrifying thought to boot how people want to mark those who have and haven't taken it.

[Gwaihir]

I already found the raw files for the COVID Vaccine Verification Card. I'm just going to forge copies for my whole family. ;)

[HalflingSpergand]

Hahahahha no 99999

[Jibartik]

I wonder if the type of person who has an immune system that has reactions to the vaccine has a 1,000% chance of death if they catch covid.

[Mead]

Received 1/2 of the Pfizer on the 21st. I can’t wait to finish the series. I believe as more people receive this mRNA vaccine, others will come around. I’m not scared one bit. I will take my chances with whatever potential side effects everyone is worried about for the chance at normalcy again. On a personal level it’s not worth me risking getting covid, or risk spreading it to one of my family members. So I’m pretty excited about all of this.

[HalflingSpergand]

https://i.imgur.com/nBJ1PcO.jpg

[imperiouskitten]

grats, i cant wait for my vax

[Thulian]

Received 1/2 of the Pfizer on the 21st. I can’t wait to finish the series. I believe as more people receive this mRNA vaccine, others will come around. I’m not scared one bit. I will take my chances with whatever potential side effects everyone is worried about for the chance at normalcy again. On a personal level it’s not worth me risking getting covid, or risk spreading it to one of my family members. So I’m pretty excited about all of this.

I think its great you got vaccinated, unfortunately there are around 5 other flu like viruses going around that are worse then covid. This pandemic has lots happening behind the scenes, covid makes alot of people have a weak immune system for a long period of time making it easy to carry other shit and give it to others.

This pandemic sucks and we are nowhere near the end of it. MAYBE by summer

Buckle up and dig a bunker

[Jibartik]

So if you get the vaccine can you just walk around feeling like trump and not have to worry about catching it, cus you're immune?

[Evia]

Received 1/2 of the Pfizer on the 21st. I can’t wait to finish the series. I believe as more people receive this mRNA vaccine, others will come around. I’m not scared one bit. I will take my chances with whatever potential side effects everyone is worried about for the chance at normalcy again. On a personal level it’s not worth me risking getting covid, or risk spreading it to one of my family members. So I’m pretty excited about all of this.

The Kool aid was strong for this one

[BarnabusCollins]

It takes its sterilization shot or in the cage it goes again!

[imperiouskitten]

So if you get the vaccine can you just walk around feeling like trump and not have to worry about catching it, cus you're immune?

60%-90% individual vaccination odds depending on the vax

[Gwaihir]

Received 1/2 of the Pfizer on the 21st. I can’t wait to finish the series. I believe as more people receive this mRNA vaccine, others will come around. I’m not scared one bit. I will take my chances with whatever potential side effects everyone is worried about for the chance at normalcy again. On a personal level it’s not worth me risking getting covid, or risk spreading it to one of my family members. So I’m pretty excited about all of this.

Mind posting your pfizer batch number, so I can forge it onto my fake covid vaccination card? EH8922?

Thanks

[Mead]

The irony of a bunch of obese substance abusers worried about unknown vaccination side effects is beyond comical to me. You really have no idea how stupid I think you are.

Stay woke tho.

Hope this helps.

[imperiouskitten]

The irony of a bunch of obese substance abusers worried about unknown vaccination side effects is beyond comical to me. You really have no idea how stupid I think you are.

Stay woke tho.

Hope this helps.

I bet u beep when u pass thru a metal detector now! And with the wand thingy, especially beep near ur nutsac, which is no doubt sterilizado and also producing estrogen now like metal gear nanomachines.

[HalflingSpergand]

100% Sober and healthy, no pills, no masterbating, no pornos, make good money, lots of self worth, handsome and good looking

[Mead]

100% Sober and healthy, no pills, no masterbating, no pornos, make good money, lots of self worth, handsome and good looking

:D:D

[Mead]

I bet u beep when u pass thru a metal detector now! And with the wand thingy, especially beep near ur nutsac, which is no doubt sterilizado and also producing estrogen now like metal gear nanomachines.

That’s just my anabolics.

Insert your favorite mead lulz meme.

[Gwaihir]

The irony of a bunch of obese substance abusers worried about unknown vaccination side effects is beyond comical to me. You really have no idea how stupid I think you are.

Stay woke tho.

Hope this helps.

So, is that a no to sharing your pfizer batch number?

To think, you posted it on your Facebook for likes and free.

[Ret.SaxonAlex]

Nah, I'm in a fake dimension where my ex-boss floods my streets to shame me about hurricanes so... no thanks. Don't want a weird freaky unknown mission needle in my arm. To then try to shame me about something else.

[imperiouskitten]

100% Sober and healthy, no pills, no masterbating, no pornos, make good money, lots of self worth, handsome and good looking

No empathy, no friends, cucked into incognito, goofy looking, yikes voice, embarrassed about wardrobe, sweats in public, mediocre salary for age grp, immoral employment, girl settled for guaranteeing explosive midlife crisis on horizon, extremely fragile ego despite narcissism (distorted & unstable self worth)**

On the contrary, me. Altho I am kinda lonely too, I haven't been socializing cuz of covid+retired under 30, feeling kind of aimless. I want my vax so i can have mead over to double team me w/ my husband.

[Ret.SaxonAlex]

I really need to retire and not have to worry about people around me for 30 years. Anyone and everyone. Even fake family. Especially fake family. Burn my mailbox. No thanks, don't want coupons for moms who pretend looking through coupons take away from them looking down on their kids. Mail is now a tax that I am obligated to care about. But I have no moneys and am afraid of angry demon parents that wonder about me working.

Life is one giant Doctors waiting office, with uppity parents proud they are calm adults as their kids are losing their minds because video games are bad. Wait in the waiting line, to wait, waiting is an adult, more waiting to wait... but wait... soon it will be good after more waiting! and then endless waiting. Or I was tortured by my teenage past and he convinced me of this. but can I retire now? I told antifa I am not taking part in a shame contest.

[nostalgiaquest]

100% Sober and healthy, no pills, no masterbating, no pornos, make good money, lots of self worth, handsome and good looking

Wait, you're not just another pathetic Filbus alt? I dun beleeb yu

[Thulian]

100% Sober and healthy, no pills, no masterbating, no pornos, make good money, lots of self worth, handsome and good looking

Masterbation is important imo

[HalflingSpergand]

How else would u enjoy your gay porn

[magnetaress]

Cannot wait till mask only fetish becomes a thing.

[Jibartik]

I saw a mattress commercial where the people in it were wearing masks I was like, oh no this is going to be the rest of our lives now.

[magnetaress]

Commercials in the 60's were pretty weird I think commercial people will loop back around to there.

Hygine and Corona is going to be mandated by the Galactic Federation in order to be allowed to interact with any other species. For our safety and theirs.

SO yes. Yes, masks are eternal.

[HalflingSpergand]

I will become a nazi warlord before i ever wear a mask

[Caroll]

I will become a nazi warlord before i ever wear a mask

Enjoy your poverty.

[HalflingSpergand]

the state of being extremely poor.

No i dont qualify for any government assistance, that means i pay for everything myself and i pay for u to eat, smoke drugs, get pills, get groceries, get ur dick choped. I dont want to but the government steals it ti give to u. So im actually considered high income not to mention very handsome gorgeous and good looking

[Caroll]

the state of being extremely poor.

No i dont qualify for any government assistance, that means i pay for everything myself and i pay for u to eat, smoke drugs, get pills, get groceries, get ur dick choped. I dont want to but the government steals it ti give to u. So im actually considered high income not to mention very handsome gorgeous and good looking

Enjoy your poverty and obesity.

[Jibartik]

I keep seeing on the news that they want to open schools and that kids are like, not at risk for covid? This baffles me.

What? Like they can go sit in classrooms and not transfer the virus or get sick? What makes that science real?

Is it true? Kids are not catching/transfering covid?

If you search kids immune covid this is the first link and there are a ton of them: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03496-7

I just want to say if kids are immune to the virus then we straight up are in Childhoods End so get ready for the arrival of the overseers any day!

[Lune]

I keep seeing on the news that they want to open schools and that kids are like, not at risk for covid? This baffles me.

What? Like they can go sit in classrooms and not transfer the virus or get sick? What makes that science real?

Is it true? Kids are not catching/transfering covid?

If you search kids immune covid this is the first link and there are a ton of them: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03496-7

I just want to say if kids are immune to the virus then we straight up are in Childhoods End so get ready for the arrival of the overseers any day!

Kids definitely catch COVID, however they mount extremely effective immune responses and therefore have a smaller window of infectiousness and milder symptoms. More likely to be asymptomatic. They can trasmit it to others, though not as easily.

The push to put kids back in school is more for social and economic reasons. Being out of school has been devastating for kids and I think as a society we've made the choice to kill some additional grannies so kids can go back to more normalish.

[Gwaihir]

Kids definitely catch COVID, however they mount extremely effective immune responses and therefore have a smaller window of infectiousness and milder symptoms. More likely to be asymptomatic. They can trasmit it to others, though not as easily.

The push to put kids back in school is more for social and economic reasons. Being out of school has been devastating for kids and I think as a society we've made the choice to kill some additional grannies so kids can go back to more normalish.

Source?

Rectum

[Jibartik]

TBF I didnt read that article, because I am not that interested in getting to the bottom of it. So that link may be the source for that synopsis of this season of earth. I am willing to take lunes word for it.

[imperiouskitten]

school was shit except math class

[kjs86z]

school was shit except math class

https://i.imgur.com/XYy37zV.png

[imperiouskitten]

my xkcd fan boyfriend was the worst one

[Jimjam]

my xkcd fan boyfriend was the worst one

But he was one.

[imperiouskitten]

he picked me up from a chansluts selfie board he administered when he was adult and i was underage

i happened to go to the same elite university he had just graduated from a year later, very serendipitous but i think he's got a lot of original CP on his computer. He was a physical abuser type, real psycho. But he knew the mayor's family that was cool, sat in their box at the parades

[Evia]

Kids definitely catch COVID, however they mount extremely effective immune responses and therefore have a smaller window of infectiousness and milder symptoms. More likely to be asymptomatic. They can trasmit it to others, though not as easily.

The push to put kids back in school is more for social and economic reasons. Being out of school has been devastating for kids and I think as a society we've made the choice to kill some additional grannies so kids can go back to more normalish.

So basically covid is dangerous and you need to worry... when they tell you it's dangerous and you need to worry?

But when they want kids to go back to the indoctrination process you need not worry any longer? Whatever fits the agenda/narrative from moment to moment of course! Question any of this quackery though and be cast out with trump and hillbillies.

But science!(not any science you actually take part in, just the kind you blindly accept cause niel degrees tyson and Rick and Morty told you so)is always right so I don't ever need to question it!

Critical thinking never was a sheep's strength though

[imperiouskitten]

So basically covid is dangerous and you need to worry... when they tell you it's dangerous and you need to worry?

But when they want kids to go back to the indoctrination process you need not worry any longer? Whatever fits the agenda/narrative from moment to moment of course! Question any of this quackery though and be cast out with trump and hillbillies.

But science!(not any science you actually take part in, just the kind you blindly accept cause niel degrees tyson and Rick and Morty told you so)is always right so I don't ever need to question it!

Critical thinking never was a sheep's strength though

yikes

(To be honest, I think we should keep the kids home too. I only wish they were all restricted to using PCs and books and there were no consoles n phones. but a little overboard on the rick and morty there)

[BarnabusCollins]

dunno nuttin bout no vaccine but...

"Greatest tornado risk appears likely to evolve from late afternoon through mid evening, both ahead of the cold front across southeastern Texas and western Louisiana, and near a northward-moving Gulf warm front from central Louisiana into southwestern Mississippi."

For Thursday...

[imperiouskitten]

dunno nuttin bout no vaccine but...

"Greatest tornado risk appears likely to evolve from late afternoon through mid evening, both ahead of the cold front across southeastern Texas and western Louisiana, and near a northward-moving Gulf warm front from central Louisiana into southwestern Mississippi."

For Thursday...

what if the nado picks up a covid packed school, hospital, or obese walmart

then it would be like an aidsnado

[Thulian]

yikes

(To be honest, I think we should keep the kids home too. I only wish they were all restricted to using PCs and books and there were no consoles n phones. but a little overboard on the rick and morty there)

keeping everyone home didnt do anything, everyone still gets their food at the store

lockdowns didnt work, we did nothing to control the spread

[imperiouskitten]

worked in other countries. maybe it's the signal you're picking up on there that's the issue .

[Gwaihir]

he picked me up from a chansluts selfie board he administered when he was adult and i was underage

i happened to go to the same elite university he had just graduated from a year later, very serendipitous but i think he's got a lot of original CP on his computer. He was a physical abuser type, real psycho. But he knew the mayor's family that was cool, sat in their box at the parades

Totally normal.

[Nilstoniakrath]

Generally I don't like vaccines they tend to give me the thing they are supposed to prevent. But if taking it calms down all those who are freaking out, with all this covid 19 nonsense, sign me up

[Mead]

13 more days for 2/2 piece

[imperiouskitten]

Totally normal.

it ain't easy bein cheese peezy

[BarnabusCollins]

"Officials confirm first cases of virulent new COVID-19 strain in the U.S. Here's what you need to know." I told you soooooooooo

The vaccine wont protect against new strains released by Shyna. Grab em by the pussy.

[nostalgiaquest]

Generally I don't like vaccines they tend to give me the thing they are supposed to prevent. But if taking it calms down all those who are freaking out, with all this covid 19 nonsense, sign me up

Look up how the mRNA vaccine works. It's not like a normal vaccine where they give an altered version of the virus. It's pretty nifty.

[FatherSioux]

Anyone else excited for perpetual lockdowns due to Flu 2.0? The only answer is to funnel all of our money to giant corporations, small businesses should die and you should be afraid of your neighbor. Family? Forget them and get used to ZoomGiving with granny missing because she died of a lonely broken heart, or she can’t work her iPad. Thanks China

[Lune]

The only answer is to funnel all of our money to giant corporations, small businesses should die

That's the free market, bitch. Adapt or perish.

[kjs86z]

That's the free market, bitch. Adapt or perish.

That's extra special coming from you.

Can't wait to see the elation on my employees faces when gubment tries to enforce me to shut down and I just flip them the proverbial middle finger and keep right on going.

[kjs86z]

https://i.imgur.com/BpOmL3z.jpg

[FatherSioux]

That's the free market, bitch. Adapt or perish.

It's really not though.

[imperiouskitten]

It's really not though.

sure is

sounds like u want............regulation?

[imperiouskitten]

unless the binding domain changes the vax will probably work on these new strains. I haven't heard what particularly has changed with the virus, is it the spike protein changing?

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/BpOmL3z.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/oIKJW5o.png

[FatherSioux]

sure is

sounds like u want............regulation?

Please tell me how forcibly closing and limiting business based on size and arbitrary traits is an indication of a market working freely.

[Lune]

Please tell me how forcibly closing and limiting business based on size and arbitrary traits is an indication of a market working freely.

Because every business is free to respond to these constraints however they choose, and businesses that respond well will survive. If your business folds because of a couple of months of hard times, I guess you should have had more saved for a rainy day, no? If this is harder on small businesses than it is on large ones.... I guess that's the nature of the free market, then? It's almost like laissez faire market forces inevitably lead to greater and greater concentration of wealth among ever fewer entities. (Which is why every government in history since the development of economics has recognized the need to bust monopolies)

Additionally, even without any kind of lockdown or government intervention, people are still going to be wary of certain behaviors because they don't want to get COVID. Not everyone is retarded enough to deny COVID exists and go packing themselves into bars.

You can't be in favor of the free market while also asking people to change their behavior to prop up certain businesses over others.

[BarnabusCollins]

With all the additional Coronavirus strains China is dispersing across the globe what good is a vaccine gonna do?

[Lune]

With all the additional Coronavirus strains China is dispersing across the globe what good is a vaccine gonna do?

To anyone reading this thread that may be wondering this, who isn't a mentally ill braindead troll like BarnabusCollins, many strains of COVID-19 have been circulating since the beginning of the pandemic, with varying degrees of genetic differences. The Phase III population-level trials of the pfizer and moderna vaccines already demonstrated their 90%+ protective effect against a medley of strains, so this particular, more infectious strain isn't thought to be an issue for the vaccine.

[imperiouskitten]

wait what am i talking about again??

[Thulian]

theres 4 main strains now

[Abought56]

I don`t vaccinate yet and think the vaccine is still safe, however, for younger people. If you read scientific articles, it turns out that all vaccine testing was carried out practically on people up to 60 years old. Personally had a coronavirus. The temperature didn`t rise much. I was treated at home and only consulted with his doctor what medicines are best to drink. Wish everyone to be healthy:)

[magnetaress]

Here it is, dumbed down for you.

http://imgur.com/gallery/3xnkrzR

I'm on a low priority list for the vaccine even tho I had Covid.

Small pox was virtually wiped out. Time to get with the pogrom if you guys even want to keep that population growth and economic inflation steady.

[Jimjam]

Here it is, dumbed down for you.

http://imgur.com/gallery/3xnkrzR

I'm on a low priority list for the vaccine even tho I had Covid.

Small pox was virtually wiped out. Time to get with the pogrom if you guys even want to keep that population growth and economic inflation steady.

I think the covid deniers who then flipped over to the disease being real and the vaccine being fake are pretty obviously just children of Bertox, spilling out from the plane of disease.

Can’t wait for whoever is behind all this to transform into their true demon form, Grummox.

[imperiouskitten]

children of bertoxx, very good

[Cassawary]

it's akshuually Grummus (https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=10244), consider your elf card pulled.

[imperiouskitten]

I don't think grummus is a deity. Think he's just a "Hog of Bertoxx", or arguably Donald Trump himself

https://i.imgur.com/yEOdLYq.png

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Thomas Kamradt: Personally, I would be happy if a reliable vaccine could be developed that would give maximum protection against the disease if vaccinated, say, once every two years. The vaccine might not be able to prevent the runny nose or other mild symptoms of COVID-19, but the minimum it should be able to do is prevent lung failure and serious damage to internal organs. This is what we hope to do. If, thanks to the vaccine, the life-threatening course of the disease is replaced by mild symptoms, I personally would consider it a success. If the vaccine is able to do more, in my opinion, that would be a huge success.

[Johnston]

The race to develop a vaccine against the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus is well under way. No fewer than 35 laboratories around the world are participating. More than 170 candidate vaccines are currently in various phases of testing. In an interview with DW, Thomas Kamradt, director of the Institute of Immunology at the University Hospital Jena and president of the German Society of Immunology, explains what scientists expect from the new vaccine, whether the increased speed of research will affect the reliability and safety of the medicine, who needs to be vaccinated in the first place and why it is important to vaccinate against influenza.

DW: Many people hope that once the vaccine has been developed, the coronavirus will be defeated and things will go back to normal. Are these expectations justified? I know how bad the virus is and I know how bad it is. Believe me, playing games for a month and getting the best new player casino bonus (https://thecricketpaper.com/guest-blogs/6652/slot-machines-in-online-casinos/)is nice but not easy.

Thomas Kamradt: Personally, I would be happy if a reliable vaccine could be developed that would give maximum protection against the disease if vaccinated, say, once every two years. The vaccine might not be able to prevent the runny nose or other mild symptoms of COVID-19, but the minimum it should be able to do is prevent lung failure and serious damage to internal organs. This is what we hope to do. If, thanks to the vaccine, the life-threatening course of the disease is replaced by mild symptoms, I personally would consider it a success. If the vaccine is able to do more, in my opinion, that would be a huge success.

[Toxigen]

imagine getting an untested vaccine for a psyop

https://i.imgur.com/JJrdlTE.jpg

[Toxigen]

I'm just going to leave this here...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CKeFi1wHfbf/

(reminder: if you're still insisting people wear masks / get vaccinated you're a useful idiot)

[cd288]

imagine getting an untested vaccine for a psyop

https://i.imgur.com/JJrdlTE.jpg

Imagine thinking the vaccine is untested lol

I knew P99 had some really low IQ individuals here and there but these threads have really brought them out of the woodwork

[Toxigen]

Imagine thinking the vaccine is untested lol

I knew P99 had some really low IQ individuals here and there but these threads have really brought them out of the woodwork

i bet you also get a flu shot every year

[nostalgiaquest]

I'm just going to leave this here...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CKeFi1wHfbf/

(reminder: if you're still insisting people wear masks / get vaccinated you're a useful idiot)

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dr-roger-hodkinson-covid-hoax/

(reminder: if you're posting someone else's videos and acting like they're proof of anything, you're not useful, and you're an idiot)

[Toxigen]

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dr-roger-hodkinson-covid-hoax/

(reminder: if you're posting someone else's videos and acting like they're proof of anything, you're not useful, and you're an idiot)

lmao snopes - get real - you're "fact checking" on a soros-funded liberal whack-a-doo website

https://i.imgur.com/VDub16u.jpg

sorry you're too dumb to see propaganda

[nostalgiaquest]

Lol, sounds like the Snopes dude should have been part of the Trump administration.

I'm curious - if this is hoax, and all deaths are being associated with covid regardless of actual cause, why are there so many more total deaths in 2020 compared to previous years? Why do the increases line up with major waves of covid spread? Why are hospitals and morgues being overwhelmed?

From: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

https://i.imgur.com/hEQnxC4.png


Aside from easily debunked videos, which I'm happy to post multiple other articles that you will refuse to read that debunk the great Dr Hodkinson's passionate speech, what evidence is out there that this whole thing is a hoax?

[Toxigen]

I never said its a hoax. I fully understand people have died of this.

All I'm saying is its a bad flu season and a lot of folks have been duped into hysteria. Its been politicized to no end and at this point we're just dealing with weaponized propaganda. Dr. Hodkinson knows a lot more about viruses than anyone on this forum...and the hoax term isn't used in describing the virus itself, but rather all the other bullshit going along with it.

If we all turned off our TVs, threw the government the collective middle finger, and went on with our normal lives this would go away. None of my employees wear masks, none of us are getting vaccinated, and we don't socially distance. I never shut down nor will I ever shut down no matter what local, state, or federal government tries to do. Fortunately our governor sides with small businesses and has the balls to tell the feds to fuck off.

[Kaveh]

Get vaccinated, I want to go to a bar and it won’t happen unless you do

Why are you scared? You’re already autistic, what else can they do to you?

[Kaveh]

I never said its a hoax. I fully understand people have died of this.

All I'm saying is its a bad flu season and a lot of folks have been duped into hysteria. Its been politicized to no end and at this point we're just dealing with weaponized propaganda.

If we all turned off our TVs, threw the government the collective middle finger, and went on with our normal lives this would go away.

And so would 400,000 people and counting

Seek Christ

[DoodyLich666]

Get vaccinated, I want to go to a bar and it won’t happen unless you do

Why are you scared? You’re already autistic, what else can they do to you?

That’s a god point, we need to roll out these vaccines in mass. P99s population might go way up.

[Kaveh]

That’s the spirit. Look on the bright side

[nostalgiaquest]

I never said its a hoax. I fully understand people have died of this.

All I'm saying is its a bad flu season and a lot of folks have been duped into hysteria. Its been politicized to no end and at this point we're just dealing with weaponized propaganda. Dr. Hodkinson knows a lot more about viruses than anyone on this forum...and the hoax term isn't used in describing the virus itself, but rather all the other bullshit going along with it.

If we all turned off our TVs, threw the government the collective middle finger, and went on with our normal lives this would go away. None of my employees wear masks, none of us are getting vaccinated, and we don't socially distance. I never shut down nor will I ever shut down no matter what local, state, or federal government tries to do. Fortunately our governor sides with small businesses and has the balls to tell the feds to fuck off.

It hasn't been a season, it's been over a continuous year. Influenza and COVID are two distinct viruses with key differences that should be treated as such. Lumping them together is being wilfully ignorant. Here's some light reading on the subject: https://asm.org/Articles/2020/July/COVID-19-and-the-Flu

I'll agree with you that this issue has been highly politicized. But I'm guessing we'll disagree on who started that nonsense (hint: his name ends in rump).

Are you honestly saying that if we all just went back to our normal lives this would all just magically go away? Because if so, then wowzers. How many deaths is too many to you?

Also, Thanks for the laugh about keeping your business open no matter what the big bad guvment says. We all know that's not true. Reminds me of the other patriotic heroes who bravely stormed the capital and then were surprised when they later got arrested.

[HalflingSpergand]

The government is the peoples will,and the people are mostly retards. The retards need the poison to ease fear

Theory: Ventilators are a torture device they kill people with

[Toxigen]

It hasn't been a season, it's been over a continuous year. Influenza and COVID are two distinct viruses with key differences that should be treated as such. Lumping them together is being wilfully ignorant. Here's some light reading on the subject: https://asm.org/Articles/2020/July/COVID-19-and-the-Flu

I'll agree with you that this issue has been highly politicized. But I'm guessing we'll disagree on who started that nonsense (hint: his name ends in rump).

Are you honestly saying that if we all just went back to our normal lives this would all just magically go away? Because if so, then wowzers. How many deaths is too many to you?

Also, Thanks for the laugh about keeping your business open no matter what the big bad guvment says. We all know that's not true. Reminds me of the other patriotic heroes who bravely stormed the capital and then were surprised when they later got arrested.

You seem to be forgetting that hospitals have financial incentives to chalk up deaths as covid deaths.

The numbers are not nearly as bad as you are made to believe.

But yeah, keep eating up what the TV is feeding you.

[HalflingSpergand]

His kids work in medical and he probably coaxed them into it. So he has incentives to feed it too

[Toxigen]

Get vaccinated, I want to go to a bar and it won’t happen unless you do

Why are you scared? You’re already autistic, what else can they do to you?

I can go to a bar anytime I want.

Sorry you live in a shitty leftist state.

[Jibartik]

You seem to be forgetting that hospitals have financial incentives to chalk up deaths as covid deaths.

The numbers are not nearly as bad as you are made to believe.

But yeah, keep eating up what the TV is feeding you.

can you do me a favor and name an example of the incentives?

[HalflingSpergand]

Money from the government, dumb?

[Evia]

Crazy to me that people would rather forcibly inject a virus intentionally into them in the name of science vs the random chance they might catch the virus and let their immune systems do its job.. Baffling. It's like everyone just stops critically thinking and let's someone else do all the thinking for them. My favorite part is how anyone not vaxxing is the stupid and uneducated ones who are putting all these vaxers at risk! (Uhhh...I thought you had the vax! You should be immune , right?)

Ass backwards world I've found myself in.

[GinnasP99]

Also, where are all the dead bodies ?

[Cassawary]

Crazy to me that people would rather forcibly inject a virus intentionally into them in the name of science vs the random chance they might catch the virus and let their immune systems do its job.. Baffling. It's like everyone just stops critically thinking and let's someone else do all the thinking for them. My favorite part is how anyone not vaxxing is the stupid and uneducated ones who are putting all these vaxers at risk! (Uhhh...I thought you had the vax! You should be immune , right?)

Ass backwards world I've found myself in.

China and Russia did the standard boiled virus vaccine style, the West bet hard on the new RNA steezy. You aren't being injected with covid, are you comrade?

[Evia]

China and Russia did the standard boiled virus vaccine style, the West bet hard on the new RNA steezy. You aren't being injected with covid, are you comrade?

Nah. Just having my rna altered in this case, which is arguably more insane.

[Cassawary]

Nah. Just having my rna altered in this case, which is arguably more insane.

Based on...?

[Evia]

Based on...?

The logical thought process that most humans should have?
Goes kinda like
I was born with all this dna and rna code as it is....
So maybe altering the code could have consequences?
Perhaps consequences that are unforeseen?


At the end of the day you either trust in God (you, your body, your immune system) or you put your trust in Man (science, logic, fear, profit). I’m not saying one is right or wrong, only dictated by your belief construct. It’s just totally illogical to me, personally. Yet most importantly I think everyone should have the right to their own belief on the matter. I’m not here to argue, just giving my 2cp.

[Toxigen]

The logical thought process that most humans should have?
Goes kinda like
I was born with all this dna and rna code as it is....
So maybe altering the code could have consequences?
Perhaps consequences that are unforeseen?

Idk call me old fashioned but I like my body just the way it is, thanks.

pras

ill never, ever get this vaccine

[Cassawary]

The logical thought process that most humans should have?
Goes kinda like
I was born with all this dna and rna code as it is....
So maybe altering the code could have consequences?
Perhaps consequences that are unforeseen?

Idk call me old fashioned but I like my body just the way it is, thanks.

Eating a banana alters your code too :D

[Evia]

Eating a banana alters your code too :D

Sure does! I’ve tested that one thoroughly, too. :D


Damn now I’m craving a banana split...