View Full Version : The selling of accounts
bomaroast
04-28-2011, 01:53 PM
Why is this allowed?
We are not allowed to box characters, but power leveling and twinking is taking place in a rampant way. Fine, whatever.. that keeps everyone playing the game when they run out of things to do. But due to the ability to twink and power level getting a toon to level 30 or 40 doesn't take much effort at all.
Are we going for a genuine experience here or not?
The selling of accounts, even for in game money only, should be put to a stop.
dredge
04-28-2011, 02:09 PM
But due to the ability to twink and power level getting a toon to level 30 or 40 doesn't take much effort at all.
speak for yourself Nerd, took me 6 months to get my Shaman to lv 35 and if I want to sell or trade him then why do you care?
It's not like we all haven't leveled multiple classes on live before.
What pisses me off is that it took me 6 months to get to level 35 and my toon isn't worth a quarter of what some stupid dagger with shitty stats given out on Kunarks release is.
bomaroast
04-28-2011, 02:10 PM
Nice job completely ignoring the first half of the sentence.
^^^^
What he said. Also the selling of accounts is about as classic as it gets and its illegle to RMT...
I'm not sure why you think boxing is comparable to twinking or power leveling or account trading. Boxing is banned to discourage antisocial camp monopolies and to encourage social interactions amongst the player population. None of the other stuff has any negative effect on those things, boxing does.
Kassel
04-28-2011, 02:22 PM
speak for yourself Nerd, took me 6 months to get my Shaman to lv 35
Yikes, play once a week ?
dredge
04-28-2011, 02:24 PM
And if the goal is to get people playing and having fun then why not?
I haven't played p1999 in a long time because I stopped enjoying my Shaman, wasn't a good match for me, etc....
So after a few weeks I finally traded him for a Rogue and now I'm excited about p1999, having fun and playing again.
Seems like a happy ending to me.
Desert
04-28-2011, 02:51 PM
imho, who cares about account selling?
if a happy ending is all you want, i know a place
Kuriin
04-28-2011, 02:55 PM
I'm not sure why you think boxing is comparable to twinking or power leveling or account trading. Boxing is banned to discourage antisocial camp monopolies and to encourage social interactions amongst the player population. None of the other stuff has any negative effect on those things, boxing does.
Except, the point of this thread that you and several other people fail to realize, is that in classic and as far as I'm aware, STILL, it is illegal to sell and trade accounts.
Except, the point of this thread that you and several other people fail to realize, is that in classic and as far as I'm aware, STILL, it is illegal to sell and trade accounts.
Is this a joke? Account trading was INSANELY rampant in classic.
quellren
04-28-2011, 03:06 PM
Except, the point of this thread that you and several other people fail to realize, is that in classic and as far as I'm aware, STILL, it is illegal to sell and trade accounts.
To argue this as a point of 'morality', it's disallowed on Live because SOE is a corporation. I'm sure there's legal issues regarding PLing accounts to sell for your profit. Trading is probably a grey area, but it's cleaner to just say 'no' all around.
From the 'it's not classic' standpoint:
1) It happened anyway. (I remember surfing Ebay and finding accounts)
2)It's pointless to throw a fit over it here, it's impossible to regulate because it takes 2 minutes to make an account and create a lvl 1, and as importantly, it may actually have a POSITIVE impact on the community so long as RMT is aggressively prosecuted.
I know several players who leveled a character, got burnt out and traded/sold for another class. This keeps the population high. I myself would have long ago sold my 46 shaman if it weren't on the same account as the character I still play most.
Zereh
04-28-2011, 03:09 PM
Is this a joke? Account trading was INSANELY rampant in classic.
It didn't start out that way, that's for sure. It took a few years.
Desert
04-28-2011, 03:11 PM
It didn't start out that way, that's for sure. It took a few years.
you can't un-ring a bell. face it, the first person that decided he wanted to trade/sell his account was on to something.
It didn't start out that way, that's for sure. It took a few years.
I remember it going pretty strong in Kunark, and by Velious is was booming. I remember in highschool when I was like 15 I made a couple thousand bucks for summer vacation by buying, selling, and trading accounts lol
Summer job? Fuck that, I had EQ
Zereh
04-28-2011, 03:32 PM
I'm not trying to un-ring a bell. /shrug I don't give a shit what people do with their accounts. <3 I still have my original account on Live and no one will ever get their filthy paws on my account here.
I personally think it's lame to trade / sell / give handjobs or whatever for pre-leveled characters. For all the QQs of how "easy" it is to level up and how any moron can play any class it kind of surprises me that there's a market for it at all. But I guess the greedy cater to the lazy, so it keeps all of y'all content.
Trade away!
Ledzepp02
04-28-2011, 03:40 PM
I personally...give handjobs...for pre-leveled characters....
Trade away!
Fix'd!
J/K J/K Zereh =P
Zereh
04-28-2011, 03:54 PM
haha ^^ clever monkey
Dirtnap
04-28-2011, 03:54 PM
I would never sell my account, but i'd be down to buy a high level druid. lol
But i don't think they should allow the trading of accounts, for in game items or real money.
Doesn't make any damn sense to me to allow in game trades for characters, but not real money. It is still borderline RMT, how many people do you think actually earned all that PP they have? They probably bought it in the first place, and then bought characters or whatever with it. -_-
TallyDawg
04-28-2011, 04:17 PM
imho, who cares about account selling?
if a happy ending is all you want, i know a place
Starbucks?
Kassel
04-28-2011, 04:35 PM
I would never sell my account, but i'd be down to buy a high level druid. lol
But i don't think they should allow the trading of accounts, for in game items or real money.
Doesn't make any damn sense to me to allow in game trades for characters, but not real money. It is still borderline RMT, how many people do you think actually earned all that PP they have? They probably bought it in the first place, and then bought characters or whatever with it. -_-
The difference is that if anyone makes RLM off this server Sony can and will shut it down. No one is allowed to profit off their intellectual property. Ingame shit for ingame shit is not a legal issue while RMT is.
Kuriin
04-28-2011, 04:52 PM
Is this a joke? Account trading was INSANELY rampant in classic.
Comprehension issues? Say, whaaaaaaaaaaa? I never said it wasn't rampant. I said it was illegal.
Comprehension issues? Say, whaaaaaaaaaaa? I never said it wasn't rampant. I said it was illegal.
It was extremely common and rampant in Classic, therefore they allow it to be extremely common and rampant here. Pretty simple.
Desert
04-28-2011, 05:05 PM
considering p99 staff has no standing to bring any legal charges to these dastardly account sellers, why not drop it? you're starting to look silly bringing up the legality of trading ingame items for an ingame character/account on an emulated server. dropitbro
Bigfatty
04-28-2011, 05:12 PM
If you want it to be more like a live experience, shun players who purchased accounts. If you know the original owner and know they sold it, taunt the new owner by calling him an "EBAYED FAG"
thatll teach em...
Bloodshot
04-28-2011, 05:17 PM
Man selling back in the day was a key component of classic EQ. When I was maybe 17 / 18 years old before the Kunark Era, I remember camping Pyzjin for a Glowing Black Stone (someone told me about its value) and lucky enough, caught her in the thick, looted my GBS and got tells from multiple level 50's offering me real high end gear...
Needless to say, when I was told it was worth near a grand or more if I were to sell it on Ebay, I felt like I won the lottery. Think I traded it for like an SMR, GEB's, Rubi BP, Black Sapphire Necklace, Runed Cowl etc (that was to the best of my memory)I got my Wizzy up to 50, turned around and sold that SOB on ebay for 1500-2k, then it was just about leveling up, skipping school and making money from there on out, all while making great friends and loving life. Some people just can't let go of their characters, for me, once I had damn near the best gear and I was getting bored with my toon, it was time to sell / trade and move on. Its all subjective.
Sold my last character right before the PoP Era, not sure if it was still legal then or not, but playerauctions.com worked just fine. Had a Erudite Necro on Tunare all geared the hell out and sold him for a solid grand or so (by that time, prices had gone wayyyyy down)
I know, that was a really fun and cool story....for me
Kuriin
04-28-2011, 05:26 PM
It was extremely common and rampant in Classic, therefore they allow it to be extremely common and rampant here. Pretty simple.
Annoying debate, but, your argument is not logical.
Blancah
04-28-2011, 05:34 PM
as always...
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Bruno
04-28-2011, 05:39 PM
More opinions that nobody gives a fuck about.
Seaweedpimp
04-28-2011, 05:41 PM
I'm not trying to un-ring a bell. /shrug I don't give a shit what people do with their accounts. <3 I still have my original account on Live and no one will ever get their filthy paws on my account here.
I personally think it's lame to trade / sell / give handjobs or whatever for pre-leveled characters. For all the QQs of how "easy" it is to level up and how any moron can play any class it kind of surprises me that there's a market for it at all. But I guess the greedy cater to the lazy, so it keeps all of y'all content.
Trade away!
You give handjobs?
Annoying debate, but, your argument is not logical.
Oh, so to be classic then they should not allow the account trading to be done openly on their forums, but still not give a shit?
That would be the cloest to classic, but it would be very stupid.
Or do you want them to waste GM/guide time aggressively pursuing traded accounts and having to deal with the massive cluster fuck that goes with it? Not classic, but hey, you'd get your wish!
Or, we could have the system we have now, where they let you trade them on the forums, no one gives a shit, and we have Bob to do escrow.
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