What it's like being in <Seal Team>

[everqueste53]

In order to even have a chance at getting raid items, not only do you have get highly sought after /list items (jboots, regardless of whether or not you can cast SoW or are a bard), but you're looking at days of 12hrs+ camping for things like root nets.

Some people in the guild rightly think these are unnecessary bottlenecks, and this is how Phatezz - the guild leader - talks to the guild.

If you want to make a raid guild, there's definitely room for people who:

1. Aren't assholes.
2. Don't require weeks of perma-camping.

Also, Phatezz plans to artificially raise the price of high-end jewel crafting items to raise money for the guild because, as he says, he can.

[Tecmos Deception]

You lies about bards and shams needing jboots. Your credibility is successfully impeached. Good day sir.

[Tecmos Deception]

And it was your own evidence that did it too. SAD.

[Wallicker]

You are too lazy to buy food and drink so he has a point

[this user was banned]

Phatezz is a gnome isn't he?
All gnomes are assholes.

[everqueste53]

And it was your own evidence that did it too. SAD.

Eh, I noticed it and didn't care. He originally said it was a requirement. He changed it.

[everqueste53]

You are too lazy to buy food and drink so he has a point

I.........was on a corpse run

[Valeriya]

In order to even have a chance at getting raid items, not only do you have get highly sought after /list items (jboots, regardless of whether or not you can cast SoW or are a bard), but you're looking at days of 12hrs+ camping for things like root nets.

Some people in the guild rightly think these are unnecessary bottlenecks, and this is how Phatezz - the guild leader - talks to the guild.

If you want to make a raid guild, there's definitely room for people who:

1. Aren't assholes.
2. Don't require weeks of perma-camping.

Also, Phatezz plans to artificially raise the price of high-end jewel crafting items to raise money for the guild because, as he says, he can.

Quit crying

[everqueste53]

You lies about bards and shams needing jboots. Your credibility is successfully impeached. Good day sir.

Hmmm. I responded to this already, but it didn't post. Anyway, I noticed that but didn't care. He originally required it for *all* classes and must have changed it later.

[YendorLootmonkey]

You are too lazy to buy food and drink so he has a point

Bahahahahaha!!

Wallicker wins the thread.

[Endorra]

I wanna know how Phatezz deals with the mole.

My money is on the mole being Valeriya. Nobody would suspect the valiant defender.

You heard it here first, folks.

[everqueste53]

For some reason, it's no longer letting me post here

[Hazek]

L 2 P

I like phatezz style and i'm not even in the guild. No BS get shit done.

[Everquest54]

You lies about bards and shams needing jboots. Your credibility is successfully impeached. Good day sir.

Been waiting an hour for mod approval for my replies. Phatez must have changed the requirement, he originally said it was necessary for *all* classes.

[Hazek]

If you wanna form your own carebear guild then why don't you do that? Oh because there's players who know how to play the game and are willing to invest the time. Okay

All I see is butthurt jealousy because they use creative ways to beat the game and have requirements because that's what EQ classic is for people who wanna get loot.

[Pozzey]

L 2 P

I like phatezz style and i'm not even in the guild. No BS get shit done.

How long have you been gay?

[Hazek]

Female gnomes are lame and weird though not sure whats up with that.

[Hazek]

How long have you been gay?

After I went out with those frickin frogs

[Sakir]

F1
/guildremove
If you disagree

[Everquest54]

It's telling that the only person who has come to directly defend Phatez is a racist Trump supporter and that 98% of the guild won't defend him, even after this was posted in the guild's discord.

[BenDerisgreat]

ah, raid guilds... ill stick to my care bear guild, because i have a life.

[Albanwr]

F1
/guildremove
If you disagree

I believe people have already started doing just that.

[Argh]

Cool guild chat

[Valeriya]

Cool guild chat

shhhhh

[Legday]

How long have you been gay?

Using sexual orientation as an insult is pretty gay of you.

[shuklak]

Time to split this guild in 2 already.

[Bazia]

top guild is a bunch of unemployed losers who play 19 hours a day passive aggressively pressuring a bunch of normal people to play more everquest

i dont belief it

[Endonde]

Cool guild chat

Who are you on Blue?

Guess you're after my time.

[getlostgreg]

So the top guild on the server has requirements?

And the leader of the top guild doesn't like lazy members?

How awful.

[Ligma]

Imagine thinking classic EQ is anywhere near difficult enough to require any of that shit. Maybe when sky is released I can see it, but that's not for like 9 months.

[Nirgon]

Lots of dkp stacking before fear/hate and Kunark goin on

Pras

[Valeriya]

Execpt for the cry babies that cant get loot themselves....... #bums

[Secrets]

I never understood why people raid in EQ, in Kunark or in the base game. The drops prior to NToV are just utter dogshit from raiding.

Who the fuck is going to even want to get a hierophant's crook, or a dragon bone bracer? The items from Plane of Sky quests suck too, aside from some outliers like the haste belt.

Planar armor can be one grouped, so that doesn't count.

There's really no reason to progress in the raiding game - even if you get those slightly better upgrades, they don't really boost your character significantly. Raid loot only lets you do content you could do previously more efficiently, and at that point why are you even playing the game?

It isn't until NTOV that you see items with significant HP or stat gains. Pretty dumb.

And let's not even get started on the horrible itemization of planar stats. Why the fuck does Valorium Greaves, for example, have INT? Literally does NOTHING for that class. https://wiki.project1999.com/Valorium_Greaves

[ArunaGreen]

I never understood why people raid in EQ, in Kunark or in the base game. The drops prior to NToV are just utter dogshit from raiding.

Who the fuck is going to even want to get a hierophant's crook, or a dragon bone bracer? The items from Plane of Sky quests suck too, aside from some outliers like the haste belt.

Planar armor can be one grouped, so that doesn't count.

There's really no reason to progress in the raiding game - even if you get those slightly better upgrades, they don't really boost your character significantly. Raid loot only lets you do content you could do previously more efficiently, and at that point why are you even playing the game?

It isn't until NTOV that you see items with significant HP or stat gains. Pretty dumb.

And let's not even get started on the horrible itemization of planar stats. Why the fuck does Valorium Greaves, for example, have INT? Literally does NOTHING for that class. https://wiki.project1999.com/Valorium_Greaves

You basically just highlighted the reason why playing EQ at all is actually pointless. Classic EQ was especially awful though, not sure why everyone clings to it when so much of it as you pointed out, is horribly designed. I think we need to stop reproducing retarded classic servers governed by complete retards which reiterate the most idiotic ideas and mechanics that existed in the game and instead make a remastered version of classic which restores/renews the difficulty of the game and revamps the itemization.

[Phatez]

I never understood why people raid in EQ, in Kunark or in the base game. The drops prior to NToV are just utter dogshit from raiding.

Who the fuck is going to even want to get a hierophant's crook, or a dragon bone bracer? The items from Plane of Sky quests suck too, aside from some outliers like the haste belt.

Planar armor can be one grouped, so that doesn't count.

There's really no reason to progress in the raiding game - even if you get those slightly better upgrades, they don't really boost your character significantly. Raid loot only lets you do content you could do previously more efficiently, and at that point why are you even playing the game?

It isn't until NTOV that you see items with significant HP or stat gains. Pretty dumb.

And let's not even get started on the horrible itemization of planar stats. Why the fuck does Valorium Greaves, for example, have INT? Literally does NOTHING for that class. https://wiki.project1999.com/Valorium_Greaves


I raid because I like to kill dragons.

[Everquest54]

I raid because I like to kill dragons.

"I like to kill dragons."

Camps https://wiki.project1999.com/A_goblin_jailmaster for 12 hours on thanksgiving

[Mblake81]

You basically just highlighted the reason why playing EQ at all is actually pointless. Classic EQ was especially awful though, not sure why everyone clings to it when so much of it as you pointed out, is horribly designed.

What this also your opinion back in 1999-2000?

[azeth]

Pretty typical of a raiding guild to have a list of required items to participate in loot distribution...

[Wonkie]

You basically just highlighted the reason why playing EQ at all is actually pointless. Classic EQ was especially awful though, not sure why everyone clings to it when so much of it as you pointed out, is horribly designed. I think we need to stop reproducing retarded classic servers governed by complete retards which reiterate the most idiotic ideas and mechanics that existed in the game and instead make a remastered version of classic which restores/renews the difficulty of the game and revamps the itemization.

A limited mudflation custom server would be cool, most go way too hard on item stats growth.

[Mblake81]

NEGGED me. Thought I was in the teal section for a minute, preparing to unload on a 2019er.

10/10 scumbagging.

[Ligma]

I never understood why people raid in EQ, in Kunark or in the base game. The drops prior to NToV are just utter dogshit from raiding.

Who the fuck is going to even want to get a hierophant's crook, or a dragon bone bracer? The items from Plane of Sky quests suck too, aside from some outliers like the haste belt.

Planar armor can be one grouped, so that doesn't count.

There's really no reason to progress in the raiding game - even if you get those slightly better upgrades, they don't really boost your character significantly. Raid loot only lets you do content you could do previously more efficiently, and at that point why are you even playing the game?

It isn't until NTOV that you see items with significant HP or stat gains. Pretty dumb.

And let's not even get started on the horrible itemization of planar stats. Why the fuck does Valorium Greaves, for example, have INT? Literally does NOTHING for that class. https://wiki.project1999.com/Valorium_Greaves

Mostly true. Puppet strings and donals BP are super OP. Then robe of the spring/rend robe. With the timeline intact, very few people will have epics during kunark.

[matticas]

I've been in <Seal Team> since day one, and it's been great.

After neckbearding hard on Blue, I've gone casual. Most of the guild is 2-3 times higher level than me, and nobody cares. I've gone to two raids. I enjoy the expertise of the highest level top raiders on Green while still playing casually, and that's totally fine with everyone.

I XP with guildies and random other people. It's all been really lovely, drama-free, and whether you're casual or hardcore I'd recommend you join <Seal Team>.

Or don't. I really don't care. Nobody does. It's just a game, and games should be fun. Our guild is having fun. OP clearly wasn't having fun.

I hope OP can find a way to have fun, because classic EQ really is fun.

End of speech.

[galach]

Watch the personal attacks or I will need to lock.

[Uuruk]

I raid because I like to kill dragons.

I like to comb my hair

[Uuruk]

In my defense galach I hadn't made it to the last post. Show mercy.

[Valeriya]

"I like to kill dragons."

Camps https://wiki.project1999.com/A_goblin_jailmaster for 12 hours on thanksgiving

Quit crying

[Wallicker]

I never understood why people raid in EQ, in Kunark or in the base game. The drops prior to NToV are just utter dogshit from raiding.

Who the fuck is going to even want to get a hierophant's crook, or a dragon bone bracer? The items from Plane of Sky quests suck too, aside from some outliers like the haste belt.

Planar armor can be one grouped, so that doesn't count.

There's really no reason to progress in the raiding game - even if you get those slightly better upgrades, they don't really boost your character significantly. Raid loot only lets you do content you could do previously more efficiently, and at that point why are you even playing the game?

It isn't until NTOV that you see items with significant HP or stat gains. Pretty dumb.

And let's not even get started on the horrible itemization of planar stats. Why the fuck does Valorium Greaves, for example, have INT? Literally does NOTHING for that class. https://wiki.project1999.com/Valorium_Greaves

Earth staff
White scales
Red scales
Bladestopper
Shawl of protection
Puppet strings
Multiple relevant sky drops

There’s plenty of items too save up DKP for in classic

[stewe]

It's telling that the only person who has come to directly defend Phatez is a racist Trump supporter and that 98% of the guild won't defend him, even after this was posted in the guild's discord.

Typical nutjob progressive, call anyone that doesnt agree with them a racist and try to get their SJW virtue signaling points, the motto of the left is think like me or else, true fascism

[Nirgon]

It's telling that the only person who has come to directly defend Phatez is a racist Trump supporter and that 98% of the guild won't defend him, even after this was posted in the guild's discord.

low effort cux

[azeth]

Earth staff
White scales
Red scales
Bladestopper
Shawl of protection
Puppet strings
Multiple relevant sky drops

There’s plenty of items too save up DKP for in classic

Shawl of protection isn't classic

[Solist]

Lol at having the most inappropriate list of items for classic raiding one can imagine. Talk about clueless and unoriginal idiot leader and officer core.

I really feel sorry for some of the good people in seal team, as it's almost guaranteed you're going to have a shit time babysitting bads when you join a group of seal team folk. I can't imagine the shitshow of daycare it must be from within.

[Wallicker]

Ahh when is it added to Draco loot table I thought it was classic - still plenty of stuff

[Nirgon]

sorry u didnt get loot

[AgentEpilot]

When will a guild power enough to kill Emperor Crushbone claim his throne?

[ArunaGreen]

Lol at having the most inappropriate list of items for classic raiding one can imagine. Talk about clueless and unoriginal idiot leader and officer core.

I really feel sorry for some of the good people in seal team, as it's almost guaranteed you're going to have a shit time babysitting bads when you join a group of seal team folk. I can't imagine the shitshow of daycare it must be from within.

Not much babysitting needed when you're 50 deep doing fire giants. With 30ish people I was told to "just die" because they apparently can't handle Skarlon + 2 FG's :/

Not sure why a guild needs 200 root nets exactly when realistically you only need about a dozen maybe?

[Endonde]

Ahh when is it added to Draco loot table I thought it was classic - still plenty of stuff

Velious.

I think Secrets is kind of right though, the idea that you could completely skip Classic and Kunark raiding and then just go do HoT, or even Plate house and be better geared is correct.

[Wallicker]

Not much babysitting needed when you're 50 deep doing fire giants. With 30ish people I was told to "just die" because they apparently can't handle Skarlon + 2 FG's :/

Not sure why a guild needs 200 root nets exactly when realistically you only need about a dozen maybe?

Why you pulling in 2FGs and Skarlon at same time anyways just pull singles

[Valeriya]

Sorry you need gms to hold your hand for loot

[shuklak]

The main reason people raid in classic or kunark, for most part, is to avoid RL.

[Synthlol]

top guild is a bunch of unemployed losers who play 19 hours a day passive aggressively pressuring a bunch of normal people to play more everquest

[cd288]

You basically just highlighted the reason why playing EQ at all is actually pointless. Classic EQ was especially awful though, not sure why everyone clings to it when so much of it as you pointed out, is horribly designed. I think we need to stop reproducing retarded classic servers governed by complete retards which reiterate the most idiotic ideas and mechanics that existed in the game and instead make a remastered version of classic which restores/renews the difficulty of the game and revamps the itemization.

You seem like a nice person

[Secrets]

Earth staff
White scales
Red scales
Bladestopper
Shawl of protection
Puppet strings
Multiple relevant sky drops

There’s plenty of items too save up DKP for in classic

White Dragonscale Cloak is a minor upgrade from any other cloak available. It provides nothing to player power except more resources to wait. It's not required for progression.

Mithril BP drops from 40's group content and is on par with the red dragonscale chest. https://wiki.project1999.com/Mithril_Breastplate - Also gets upgraded with planar, which is 1-groupable as I mentioned in my previous post.

(Good luck getting either of them if you're not a warrior; they're a hotly contested item, and when you're zerging with 40+ people to kill Nagafen, the chances of you, the common raider, getting that is slim unless your raid attendance is high.)

Bladestopper.. arguably a good shield, but you won't be tanking on a Knight in classic (or ever) to take anything but a death touch. Warrior AC/HP is just superior throughout the era. Good for shamans I guess... but Charred Guardian Shield offers similar benefit.

Shawl of Protection isn't in.

Puppet Strings - this item isn't relevant in this era as it drops off Cazic Thule and only a few select individuals will even get the privilege of using it. Also, you don't need Puppet Strings for /anything/ in classic era, it's mainly for those who want to show off by soloing content that can already be done in a group. Yeah it's rechargeable, but good luck finding two of them and convincing the second person not to use theirs for the lifetime of classic.

Only Sky drops that are relevant are the cleric proc hammer, the FD ring, the haste belts, and the paladin swords. They're not even that great until they get upgraded later in the timeline.

Out of all those items you've posted, the only one that is even remotely relevant is Puppet Strings. You don't need any of those items to beat the content, though, just to do it with more room for error.

[Cecily]

I'd stoop to camping root nets on a ranger for a sky cloak, but I'm just gonna not do that. Lol EQ.

[kjs86z]

consider blue

[Everquest54]

Lol

[Valeriya]

I'd stoop to camping root nets on a ranger for a sky cloak, but I'm just gonna not do that. Lol EQ.

Go away Cecily

[Vizax_Xaziv]

I love how the name of person talking in the <Seal Team> guild chat has been a complete and total douchebag on Green99.

Coincidence?

[Valeriya]

Im not seal team you leftist..... Phatezz is just way cooler than you

[Vizax_Xaziv]

play 19 hours a day of everquest

And have been doing so for the past half-decade! Now they're here to ruin another P99 server!

[Valeriya]

And have been doing so for the past half-decade! Now they're here to ruin another P99 server!

quit crying

[bthomsen0312]

Bladestopper.. arguably a good shield, but you won't be tanking on a Knight in classic (or ever) to take anything but a death touch. Warrior AC/HP is just superior throughout the era. Good for shamans I guess... but Charred Guardian Shield offers similar benefit.




as a bard getting your white dragon scales now is huge as we know that is the biggest epic stopgap

bladestopper is an awesome shield that ends up being really useful for the clicky if you can get a friend/mule with one as well. There's a reason they are 450k on blue

[Albanwr]

"I like to kill dragons."

Camps https://wiki.project1999.com/A_goblin_jailmaster for 12 hours on thanksgiving

Nah he did that so he can lord over stupid people who are willing to put up with that sort of BS.

[Valeriya]

Nah he did that so he can lord over stupid people who are willing to put up with that sort of BS.

I love how these cry babies keep crying LOL

[Valeriya]

'

[Siege]

You basically just highlighted the reason why playing EQ at all is actually pointless.

It's not pointless if you enjoy leveling characters in a surreal torture chamber of an elf sim with weird inconsistencies and imperfections.

[Pozzey]

I like to comb my hair

Bwahahah.

[Naonak]

All you want to bees, just making up numbers until they want to do more with less.

Watch out for my man Patchet, top 5 cleric :D

Good times.

[Batso]

Which server is this guild on?

[rictus204]

batty, all the cool kids are on teal! :cool:

[arsenalpow]

as a bard getting your white dragon scales now is huge as we know that is the biggest epic stopgap

bladestopper is an awesome shield that ends up being really useful for the clicky if you can get a friend/mule with one as well. There's a reason they are 450k on blue

450k on blue? Damn.

WTS bladestopper

[Tuljin]

I love how the discord screenshot shows how a member is already hip to the fact that "it already feels like they are raiding for other people to get loot"

The "no warmbody" shit from the apologist on about the "elite force" is funny too. The whole pyramid poopsocking scheme works -solely due to warmbodies- who can fill out the zerg.

If you're not already on top of the pyramid you won't get shit, its already too late.

[Waedawen]

Im not seal team you leftist..... Phatezz is just way cooler than you

what an embarrassing thing to take pride in

[Bardp1999]

Some people think the game is more fun using tons of clickes... I am not one of those people

[BlackBellamy]

The whole pyramid poopsocking scheme works -solely due to warmbodies- who can fill out the zerg.

I've been in a lot of guilds over my gaming lifetime, and the hardcore raiding guilds are all the same. You have a core of dedicated people who are ruthless and ethically challenged. They exploit the other 70% of the guild to get what they want. If you're not part of the inner circle when they form up, good luck!

Personally I don't give a fuck, you want to set up a pyramid scheme or some sort of corporation in game where you can exploit people with their permission, have a blast doing so! But when you post screenshots of your exploits, they're worthless. It's just fucking junk. Look we killed some mob by making dozens of peons do repetitive tasks because someone figured out how to exploit the system, look at this fancy screenshot. Hah.

[firesyde424]

Let me guess, clerics need a manastone too? Give me a break. Literally none of those things are even remotely required to raid classic content. Who wants a second job? This is a game right? We're supposed to have fun?

[shuklak]

Let me guess, clerics need a manastone too? Give me a break. Literally none of those things are even remotely required to raid classic content. Who wants a second job? This is a game right? We're supposed to have fun?

They don't need the manastone, they just need to camp it "for the guild. "

[Skew]

If you put the effort in Seal Team are great. No different to any other walk of life.
Me and a mate spent 6 days tag-teaming for Manastones last month. Got 1 each and 1 for the guild. I wanted a 4th that i could trade but i legit ran out of fags. I have to smoke on long camps otherwise i pass out. That extra mile doesnt go unnoticed.
We aim to lock down Nagafen and Vox now well into Kunark. Prayers and 'stoppers. If you want pixels you really should /app before the requirements and waiting list is too long.

[Endonde]

If you put the effort in Seal Team are great. No different to any other walk of life.
Me and a mate spent 6 days tag-teaming for Manastones last month. Got 1 each and 1 for the guild. I wanted a 4th that i could trade but i legit ran out of fags. I have to smoke on long camps otherwise i pass out. That extra mile doesnt go unnoticed.
We aim to lock down Nagafen and Vox now well into Kunark. Prayers and 'stoppers. If you want pixels you really should /app before the requirements and waiting list is too long.

Wow are you in Seal Team too Skew, Is a history of RMT a prerequisite of joining?

[Argh]

As the name implies, this guild was created to be an elite force on the server.

[Skew]

Wow are you in Seal Team too Skew, Is a history of RMT a prerequisite of joining?

Most unlikely thats against server rules and a slight on the good fellows that created this wonderful distraction.

[icedwards]

Wow are you in Seal Team too Skew, Is a history of RMT a prerequisite of joining?

What are the odds of Kluwen being Skew's "mate" in this instance?

[Rang]

My takeaway is that new players should roll on teal. Thanks!

[shuklak]

My takeaway is that new players should roll on teal. Thanks!

Agreed. The players there are fundamentally different than those on green.

[Domo]

Agreed. The players there are fundamentally different than those on green.

Ive heard that (sometimes)people on teal dont help each other at the Manastone, Jboots or rubicite camps.

They hope #1 fails and dies so they can take their postion. So (sometimes) you see them all just sitting, waiting and do nothing at these camps.

It sure happens on green too, but Ive heard and read that it happens way more often on teal.

[Everquest54]

I love how the discord screenshot shows how a member is already hip to the fact that "it already feels like they are raiding for other people to get loot"

The "no warmbody" shit from the apologist on about the "elite force" is funny too. The whole pyramid poopsocking scheme works -solely due to warmbodies- who can fill out the zerg.

If you're not already on top of the pyramid you won't get shit, its already too late.

[Phaezed-Reality]

TBH my biggest take away from this is to join seal team, they seem to have there shit together. from all angles.

[Kluwen2]

What are the odds of Kluwen being Skew's "mate" in this instance?

I'd be honored to be Skew's mate. Miss you murkybaby

[aaezil]

Imagine thinking classic EQ is anywhere near difficult enough to require any of that shit. Maybe when sky is released I can see it, but that's not for like 9 months.

Well they are noobs who need to use exploit recharges and exploit clickies (that were patched in later versions of the game) to be successful. Truly sad.

[Hazek]

ex·ploit
noun: exploit; plural noun: exploits
/ˈekˌsploit/

1. Classic Everquest

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Wow are you in Seal Team too Skew, Is a history of RMT a prerequisite of joining?

It's fairly disgusting that so many people who were caught and banned for RMT, sometimes SEVERAL TIMES OVER, are even being allowed to play on Green/Teal.

And BIG FUCKING SURPRISE they're monopolizing all content they possibly can again on the new servers. GGGGEEEEEEEE I wonder why they would be doing such a thing!

(HINT: THEY'RE RMT'ING AGAIN ON GREEN/TEAL!)

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Well they are noobs who need to use exploit recharges and exploit clickies (that were patched in later versions of the game) to be successful. Truly sad.

The reason they require so many clickies is to effectively eliminate any real competition. While simultaneously stating that they're "all about the competitive raiding that EverQuest provides."

[Albanwr]

Ive heard that (sometimes)people on teal dont help each other at the Manastone, Jboots or rubicite camps.

They hope #1 fails and dies so they can take their postion. So (sometimes) you see them all just sitting, waiting and do nothing at these camps.

It sure happens on green too, but Ive heard and read that it happens way more often on teal.

I have camped all these camps, and I have never seen that. I saw the mask camp was open, a group formed and the group chose to roll to see who would /list in what order.

[whitebandit]

https://i.imgur.com/v0ch1RC.jpg

[Swish]

It's fairly disgusting that so many people who were caught and banned for RMT, sometimes SEVERAL TIMES OVER, are even being allowed to play on Green/Teal.

And BIG FUCKING SURPRISE they're monopolizing all content they possibly can again on the new servers. GGGGEEEEEEEE I wonder why they would be doing such a thing!

(HINT: THEY'RE RMT'ING AGAIN ON GREEN/TEAL!)

Stay vigilant

https://i.imgur.com/pK01LlH.jpg

[cd288]

It's fairly disgusting that so many people who were caught and banned for RMT, sometimes SEVERAL TIMES OVER, are even being allowed to play on Green/Teal.

And BIG FUCKING SURPRISE they're monopolizing all content they possibly can again on the new servers. GGGGEEEEEEEE I wonder why they would be doing such a thing!

(HINT: THEY'RE RMT'ING AGAIN ON GREEN/TEAL!)

They’re not “being allowed to”; they’re changing their IPs, making brand new accounts, etc. There’s no way to tell it’s them until they RMT and even then there’s no way to know for sure that it’s the same person unless they admit it I would think.

The staff isn’t just letting people who were banned come back.

[Pyrrhica]

They’re not “being allowed to”; they’re changing their IPs, making brand new accounts, etc. There’s no way to tell it’s them until they RMT and even then there’s no way to know for sure that it’s the same person unless they admit it I would think.

The staff isn’t just letting people who were banned come back.

They allow them to freely post on the forums, which is odd.

[Wonkie]

They allow them to freely post on the forums, which is odd.

[Sagus]

They allow them to freely post on the forums, which is odd.


Just wait until they begin and RMT forum accounts.

[Valeriya]

Quit crying you noobs

[Genevensis]

Hope you're all enjoying that classic experience!

[aaezil]

They’re not “being allowed to”; they’re changing their IPs, making brand new accounts, etc. There’s no way to tell it’s them until they RMT and even then there’s no way to know for sure that it’s the same person unless they admit it I would think.

The staff isn’t just letting people who were banned come back.

As far as i know they just ban accounts. You could get 20,000 accounts banned and just make a new account and keep playing.

[Krone90]

"I like to kill dragons."

Camps https://wiki.project1999.com/A_goblin_jailmaster for 12 hours on thanksgiving lmfao wow that actually makes me sad, i hope his family brought him some food or something

[Not_Mikeo]

https://i.imgur.com/OFTKSkT.png

[azeth]

https://i.imgur.com/OFTKSkT.png

This is interesting. I wasn't there nor am I in the guild but let me guess this is what happened:

1. Naggy was killed
2. CoF dropped
3. No one rolled, nor was it distributed to a true "owner"
4. CoF was given to either your highest DPS player or highest playtime tank to use during raids
5. At a raid, the GL instructed that member to hand the CoF to the individual that would tank (Minimality)
6. Instead of the CoF being given back to player 1, it instead was kept by the guild


That accurate? If so, as much as I wanna call Seal Team & Phatezz names based on some other stuff I've read - seems legit.

[WaffleztheAndal]

This is interesting. I wasn't there nor am I in the guild but let me guess this is what happened:

1. Naggy was killed
2. CoF dropped
3. No one rolled, nor was it distributed to a true "owner"
4. CoF was given to either your highest DPS player or highest playtime tank to use during raids
5. At a raid, the GL instructed that member to hand the CoF to the individual that would tank (Minimality)
6. Instead of the CoF being given back to player 1, it instead was kept by the guild


That accurate? If so, as much as I wanna call Seal Team & Phatezz names based on some other stuff I've read - seems legit.

Absolutely nailed my assessment of it, including the part about wanting to crap on the bad apples in seal team.

[Erati]

Should we update the Wiki and remove Rahsuns server first CoF then? :confused:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Green_(2019)_Server_Firsts

[WaffleztheAndal]

Wasn’t that the CoF that dropped from their Nag kill and they clearly stated it was a guild item for their warrior account? Thought that happened on stream.

[Erati]

Wasn’t that the CoF that dropped from their Nag kill and they clearly stated it was a guild item for their warrior account? Thought that happened on stream.

Why the urgency to gear a bot w BIS?

[WaffleztheAndal]

Why the urgency to gear a bot w BIS?

I mean, that’s their call. My only point was that it seems like that CoF was never given to this Rahsun, but was intended for guild use from the start. Could be totally wrong on that though obviously.

[Wonkie]

How do you people keep falling for the guildbank scam

[Tenlaar]

They’re not “being allowed to”; they’re changing their IPs, making brand new accounts, etc. There’s no way to tell it’s them until they RMT and even then there’s no way to know for sure that it’s the same person unless they admit it I would think.

The staff isn’t just letting people who were banned come back.

That's news to me, because I still see Tecmos posting about playing all the time.

[Fammaden]

Why the urgency to gear a bot w BIS?

Yeah really, and why would Rahsun feel so strongly about it if this was all on the up and up.

The first war to 50 isn't a good enough landing spot for a CoF to them? Why?

Like this is far the last CoF they are going to see and it MUST stay in the guild....?

Who's got email rights to this war bot account?

At what point have your MT's earned the right to loot gear for keeps?

They've already downed Nag/Vox with less than optimal conditions, its only getting easier from here, why was it so vital that a different tank wear the CoF suddenly?

[shortshot444]

I checked out the first Naggy kill on twitch, they made it quite clear it was a guild item. When it happened i pretty much knew there would be drama surrounding the CoF. Makes sense to pass it around to let different tanks use it.

[Fragged]

Why the urgency to gear a bot w BIS?

Early bird.

[Erati]

Early bird.

Cept you dont need CoF on a warrior bot for it to be effective, mostly need lvls and magic resist.

Its odd but to each their own. :o

[Fammaden]

I checked out the first Naggy kill on twitch, they made it quite clear it was a guild item. When it happened i pretty much knew there would be drama surrounding the CoF. Makes sense to pass it around to let different tanks use it.

Makes sense to me to create faith in your loot system and not undermine the guild's trust in leadership. Is passing it around tanks really so necessary to their success versus letting a proven tank and raiding member keep it? Now that all these allegations about the guild are bounding around RnF its caused Rahsun to doubt them enough to apparently walk away? The whole thing seems like it SHOULD be more drama than its worth from the get-go.

[Fragged]

Just ambition I suppose.

The better the bot, the smaller the margin for error.

[azeth]

Feel bad for Rahsun leaving over some bullshit though. People will see their 41% sky haste belts shortly.

[Fammaden]

Feel bad for Rahsun leaving over some bullshit though. People will see their 41% sky haste belts shortly.

Sky is ten months after launch and then you have to farm that annoying ass zone, at level 50 initially, and wait to collect all your shitty ass random boss drops and shit....you and I have differing definitions of "shortly".

[azeth]

Sky is ten months after launch and then you have to farm that annoying ass zone, at level 50 initially, and wait to collect all your shitty ass random boss drops and shit....you and I have differing definitions of "shortly".

tbh i didnt know it was 10 months after launch.

fuck me

[Erati]

Just ambition I suppose.

The better the bot, the smaller the margin for error.

With Velious gear sure.

Classic gear (as we have all seen) matters very little if at all. Levels and resists matter.

Put a HBC and FBSS on the war bot then call it a day.

[Fammaden]

tbh i didnt know it was 10 months after launch.

fuck me

We are all fucked in this grand timeline.

Given the demand and farming associated with FBSS, CoF may well be THE best item in the game right now, maybe until Sky/Kunark for melee at least.

Just seems to me that this gives bad optics. Join Seal Team and get the best loot!!!!.....for the guild bot accounts.

[Fragged]

Feel bad for Rahsun leaving over some bullshit though. People will see their 41% sky haste belts shortly.

Guy was lucky enough borrow the best haste item in the game. He Lends it to one of the other warriors in the guild, and in return gets to use their fbss and hooded black cloak.

He gets told that it's time for the cloak to go the the bot as planned and decides to steal his guild mates items.

Aye I feel sorry for him too. Probably not in the same way you do though.

[Wallicker]

You guys know that you only need a swirlspine belt and enchanter haste to hit the haste cap at 50 right? /eyeroll

[Endonde]

Guy was lucky enough borrow the best haste item in the game. He Lends it to one of the other warriors in the guild, and in return gets to use their fbss and hooded black cloak.

He gets told that it's time for the cloak to go the the bot as planned and decides to steal his guild mates items.

Aye I feel sorry for him too. Probably not in the same way you do though.

The whole "guild" CoF argument is a little weird to begin with but let's look past that for now.

Are you really ok with Phatezz controlling those items, this is a guy who ran farm crews that actively competed against the guild that he was an officer of, and many members of those farm crews got banned for RMT. Seems like the worst idea imaginable to give him complete control over a guild bank.

[shuklak]

They allow them to freely post on the forums, which is odd.

The whole "guild" CoF argument is a little weird to begin with but let's look past that for now.

Are you really ok with Phatezz controlling those items, this is a guy who ran farm crews that actively competed against the guild that he was an officer of, and many members of those farm crews got banned for RMT. Seems like the worst idea imaginable to give him complete control over a guild bank.

But but but that was a different time!

[WaffleztheAndal]

The whole "guild" CoF argument is a little weird to begin with but let's look past that for now.

Are you really ok with Phatezz controlling those items, this is a guy who ran farm crews that actively competed against the guild that he was an officer of, and many members of those farm crews got banned for RMT. Seems like the worst idea imaginable to give him complete control over a guild bank.

Well again, if the dude is being straight up and honest about how shit is going to run in Seal Team, he’s done his due diligence. No one has a gun to anyone’s head to be/stay in the guild. If they continue on with the flawed system he has laid out, it’s on them.

[Fragged]

The whole "guild" CoF argument is a little weird to begin with but let's look past that for now.

Are you really ok with Phatezz controlling those items, this is a guy who ran farm crews that actively competed against the guild that he was an officer of, and many members of those farm crews got banned for RMT. Seems like the worst idea imaginable to give him complete control over a guild bank.

One person got banned.

People were only allowed to go for non DKP / non guild contested targets. Rules were later changed when members showed interest in some of those targets. The hardcore farmers, chose to leave the guild and continue to farm.

At this point Phatez had not been playing on Blue for a year as he was invested in leading a WoW guild. The farm crew used Phatez necro to track with, and when Phatez was notified of it he instantly reached out to the GMs to stop this as he was unable to change his PW.

[Not_Mikeo]

Just ambition I suppose.

The better the bot, the smaller the margin for error.

The better the bot, the larger the margin for error.

[Comoc1]

Is <Seal Team> accepting level 5 ranger apps?

If so this is the guild for me.

[Argh]

Dude was probably just a little short on his root net dues this month.

[Daldaen]

tbh i didnt know it was 10 months after launch.

fuck me

Also worth keeping in mind all Sky bosses should drop only 1 no drop quest component rather than the 2 that we have seen on Blue for the last 10 years.

[WaffleztheAndal]

Also worth keeping in mind all Sky bosses should drop only 1 no drop quest component rather than the 2 that we have seen on Blue for the last 10 years.

How does PoSky loot compare to Kunark? Somewhat comparable? I assume ToV loot blows it out of the water but what about the rest?

[WaffleztheAndal]

How does PoSky loot compare to Kunark? Somewhat comparable? I assume VP loot blows it out of the water but what about the rest?

[Phatez]

Is <Seal Team> accepting level 5 ranger apps?

If so this is the guild for me.

We are accepting Uyans!

[Not_Mikeo]

We are accepting Uyans!

You'll have to reroll to a useful class though.

[Wurl]

How do you people keep falling for the guildbank scam

[Comoc1]

You'll have to reroll to a useful class though.

Since when is eating a DT not useful?

[Albanwr]

Anyone from this point on who complains when leaving this guild should be ridiculed. I think everyone knows what this guild is all about. Time to leave now, or hold your complaints when shit hits the fan for you.

[Wurl]

Can you even imagine being in Seal Team at this point? Falling for the classic guild bank scam, getting a required items list made up of camps being monopolized by leadership very willing to sell you the required items, not getting to keep loot when you MT dragons, etc.

[Cecily]

Dude was probably just a little short on his root net dues this month.

That's a nice cloak you got there. It would be a shame if something happened to it.

[Fragged]

Can you even imagine being in Seal Team at this point? Falling for the classic guild bank scam, getting a required items list made up of camps being monopolized by leadership very willing to sell you the required items, not getting to keep loot when you MT dragons, etc.

I know right?

If only everyone on this forum was as well informed as you.

<3

[Wonkie]

I know right?

If only everyone on this forum was as well informed as you.

<3

Hear, hear!

More paypigs for the inevitable "theft"!

[Nisse]

I'm very upset about a cartoon belt that has nothing to do with me. ITT

[Bazia]

I'm very upset about a cartoon belt that has nothing to do with me. ITT

im very upset that someone else is upset about a cartoon belt that has nothing to do with me ITT

[Ligma]

How does PoSky loot compare to Kunark? Somewhat comparable? I assume ToV loot blows it out of the water but what about the rest?

A lot of sky loot is very good, some of it still viable into velious. But sky is also some of the hardest content in EQ when you do it at 50.

[Phatez]

A lot of sky loot is very good, some of it still viable into velious. But sky is also some of the hardest content in EQ when you do it at 50.

I heard the Queen Bee one shots all level 50 tanks.

[Traak]

blue will solve that problem the way they solve every problem. throw more bodies at it.

[Jimjam]

What if all the drama is just a smokescreen for rmt?

[Not_Mikeo]

What if all the drama is just a smokescreen for rmt?

https://i.imgur.com/cZo7Rfi.png

[shuklak]

Is <Seal Team> accepting level 5 ranger apps?

If so this is the guild for me.

Scamming officer type guilds always have the easiest application process. My favorite is dkp guilds with officers covening on a whim to loot council.

[HopefulButConcerned101]

What a bunch of f'in losers. You let a guy playing a video game dictate your time. Life is short fellas. Noone in the real world gives a rats arse about your video game loot. Yor suppose to have fun, its not a job...………..

[Reddarok]

Just ambition I suppose.

The better the bot, the smaller the margin for error.

Of*

[shuklak]

What a bunch of f'in losers. You let a guy playing a video game dictate your time. Life is short fellas. Noone in the real world gives a rats arse about your video game loot. Yor suppose to have fun, its not a job...………..

Everquest is all some people have.

[Molitoth]

Only Sky drops that are relevant are the cleric proc hammer, the FD ring, the haste belts, and the paladin swords. They're not even that great until they get upgraded later in the timeline.

Hmmm, the Ranger sword Aryonaododdyorn is pretty good, as well as the bow.

[Tilien]

Hmmm, the Ranger sword Aryonaododdyorn is pretty good, as well as the bow.

Also the rechargeable instant CH heal for clerics is pretty decent imo.

[wagorf]

"I like to kill dragons."

Camps https://wiki.project1999.com/A_goblin_jailmaster for 12 hours on thanksgiving

OWNED

[Secrets]

My favorite is dkp guilds with officers covening on a whim to loot council.

The worst is when people actually think raid loot matters in EverQuest for like, classes that aren't a Warrior (or in like 2 cases, a wizard and cleric, but even then it's not a requirement and not till kunark)

You can do every single raid boss and group content while having an undergeared any other class.

Raid guilds are a joke.

[this user was banned]

Raid guilds are a joke.

Confirmed: Secrets thinks Seal Team is a joke.

[shuklak]

Big if true

[DMN]

What a bunch of f'in losers. You let a guy playing a video game dictate your time. Life is short fellas. Noone in the real world gives a rats arse about your video game loot. Yor suppose to have fun, its not a job...………..

Pretty hilarious from a guy with a troll account on a message board about the same video game no one in real life gives a shit about.

[shuklak]

Pretty hilarious from a guy with a troll account on a message board about the same video game no one in real life gives a shit about.

Rnf is "the soaps" for most 90s kids here.

They don't need to actually be involved in a 7 way love affair murder plot to simply enjoy watching it.

[Twochain]

Directions unclear, dick stuck in dragons

[Tilien]

Rnf is "the soaps" for most 90s kids here.

They don't need to actually be involved in a 7 way love affair murder plot to simply enjoy watching it.

I mean EQ is like the soaps.. everyone comes back from the dead. Except for Mayong Mistmoore.

[vossiewulf]

I have always had much less than a positive view of raid guilds. For the most part, what they do involves 10x as much waiting, is an incredibly lengthy and totally boring click fest, and most of the time is actually easier than say a correct level group holding a camp deep in Perma.

So they'll repeat these hours-long festivals of ennui and in the case of Seal Team, follow the orders of someone where it should take less than 30 seconds to detect that he long ago unlocked the douchenozzle extraordinaire achievement, and are so totally obsessed with having the things they want that they think nothing of screwing over dozens of people to farm and hold a camp for days on end.

The really odd thing is they seem completely convinced that people are somehow impressed with this and wish they too could be pathologically obsessed blackbelt assholes with some of THE least-merited arrogance in the entire goddamned world. By example, the owner of the biggest pile of raw shit in Zambia has orders of magnitude more valid reasons for being arrogant about their accomplishments than do jerkass raid guilds like we have here.

The best thing for the GAME of EQ would be to separate them from said game and give them their own raid-focused world to play in.

[Arkanjil]

Stupid raiding guild losers...

[Ripqozko]

Stupid raiding guild losers...

Agreed

[keen]

2. Don't require weeks of perma-camping.



Is that pun intended, or not?

I need to know.

[Magerin]

https://youtu.be/oosO_uJQDqE

A shining example of why green sucks. Officer replys, let gm deal with it since they dont care -oakley

[Magerin]

https://youtu.be/MP7zRNf0zTs

Another example on a different day. Just come on in and ks. Felt like the druid and enchanter were a "boxed set" on this occasion.

[Phatez]

https://youtu.be/MP7zRNf0zTs

Another example on a different day. Just come on in and ks. Felt like the druid and enchanter were a "boxed set" on this occasion.

That second video it looks like you attempted and failed rocks them.

[Phatez]

That second video it looks like you attempted and failed rocks them.

KS**

[Magerin]

Again, this is why green sucks. Okay, this person, stress, was at a different camp, so I took over another camp. Being the douchy person this player is and who does these rotten things, becuase they know their guild leader will defend such crummy behavior, goes ahead and pulls this shit repeatedly. That was the second round of ksing they did to me. I really hope the server staff never merges teal and green together, it will thin out the numbers very quickly. Green has already established itself as scum, one guild mainly being the source, defending bad behavior, clearly not addressing the player interference video and defending the offending player who kses another player kill, fte. The saddest part is that they let allerha into their guild and allowed his class, a bard, to roll on an rbb when every casual player even knows a bard has zero benefit to possess one of the era's best haste and server first belt. Melee dps or tank should have only rolled on that. It's all these reasons why green sucks. Who will be the next banned rmter on football Sunday?

[HedleyKow]

Since you have video evidence, make a post in the petition/exploit forum and post the video evidence there. They're just gonna keep on doing that shady bullshit to other people if you don't. They should eat a suspension for that.

[Magerin]

Heres the deal, its been sitting in a completed petition for nearly 4 weeks with nothing being done about it. I have 3 videos and 4 Screen shots of my interactions with them with no replies. It seems like you need to KNOW someone to actually get a ban out on Seal Team members.

[Uuruk]

KS**

Yes, he attempted to ks them told him he was recording then petitioned it.

You really are a dumb bald motherfucker aren't you?

[Magerin]

The video very clearly shows I had first agro on the mob, then Stress came running into the room and casted after I had agro. It's sad that I have to record. I rarely to almost never recorded on live, here, i always gotta be ready to record the bs that goes on.

[Fragged]

Thanks Magerin, if you have any more info feel free to PM me. I will make sure they are dealt with.

[Daloon]

If you aren't hated on p99 you aren't trying hard enough.

Pras Seal Team Sex

[aaezil]

If you aren't hated on p99 you aren't trying hard enough.

Pras Seal Team Sex

VOmitted a bit after reading that.

Please move out of your moms basement and seek gainful employment

[Phatez]

The video very clearly shows I had first agro on the mob, then Stress came running into the room and casted after I had agro. It's sad that I have to record. I rarely to almost never recorded on live, here, i always gotta be ready to record the bs that goes on.

Clearly the video shows you have agro on the mob. That is correct. What the video does not show is who killed the last PH of that room. If they killed the last PH in that room and they were sitting in the room waiting then it was you attempting to KS them. The video does not clearly show if that happens or not.

[Fammaden]

After carefully reviewing the videos in question in slow motion multiple times, I can only conclude that the Seal Team guild should be raid suspended for a minimum of ten months.

Court adjourned.

[Magerin]

I like how Plat ignores the dispelling my mobs to attempt to kill me video and only hyper focuses on the KS video then tries to justify why its okay to KS someone. Again, this is why green sucks and this is why Steal team sucks. This leader bends over backwards to defend bad behavior. It doesn't work to correct or fix the problem contained with the guild. Only reinforces that asshat game play is encouraged

[Asteria]

At least the Squeal Team 0s are(WERE) starting to make improved haste items available for NORMAL people!

Don't GRIEF them off the server people!

[Tuljin]

Clearly the video shows you have agro on the mob. That is correct. What the video does not show is who killed the last PH of that room. If they killed the last PH in that room and they were sitting in the room waiting then it was you attempting to KS them. The video does not clearly show if that happens or not.

JD Columbia Law - Elf Lawyering

[Phatez]

I like how Plat ignores the dispelling my mobs to attempt to kill me video and only hyper focuses on the KS video then tries to justify why its okay to KS someone. Again, this is why green sucks and this is why Steal team sucks. This leader bends over backwards to defend bad behavior. It doesn't work to correct or fix the problem contained with the guild. Only reinforces that asshat game play is encouraged

I have followed up on this issue. Both of the situations players in the surrounding area stated that you did not have the camp first, Emberlie. You entered a <Seal Team> camp in an attempt to grief and collect fake "evidence" to slander our guild. Your exploits on blue have solidified a musk of toxicity that follows you and your actions on green seemingly follow the same pattern.

The reason your petitions have not been answered for four weeks is that the petitions were resolved by GM's with no wrong doing found by members of our guild.

'It's Humans like you who have ruined your own lands, You'll not ruin mine!'

Phatez

[Albanwr]

Clearly the video shows you have agro on the mob. That is correct. What the video does not show is who killed the last PH of that room. If they killed the last PH in that room and they were sitting in the room waiting then it was you attempting to KS them. The video does not clearly show if that happens or not.

Phatez, you really are a fucking idiot.

[Asteria]

I have followed up on this issue. Both of the situations players in the surrounding area stated that you did not have the camp first, Emberlie. You entered a <Seal Team> camp in an attempt to grief and collect fake "evidence" to slander our guild. Your exploits on blue have solidified a musk of toxicity that follows you and your actions on green seemingly follow the same pattern.

The reason your petitions have not been answered for four weeks is that the petitions were resolved by GM's with no wrong doing found by members of our guild.

'It's Humans like you who have ruined your own lands, You'll not ruin mine!'

Phatez

WRONG, moron! 🤪🤣

Emberlie is good people so STOP besmirching his good name on green! He was VERY respectful of a camp recently me and my friend were doing in Highkeep quite recently.

Keep the forums to the Grown ups FAT Ezzz... PATHETIC!

[Ripqozko]

Consider blue

[Magerin]

Again, this is why green sucks. The leader of the guild bands over backwards to defend its rotten player. I send repeated tells to this player asking which camp they want. No reply just ignores me non stop I petitioned, ask a GM how are these camps in ct are considered, galach replies with if you cant see it you cant claim it. However, allow party a to select a camp if they don't select one, consider the one they can see as their camp. I do so, still nothing. If it would have been the other way around, I had both camps i would have been forced out of one and ksd out of the other becuase of the terrible toxic nature seen in the videos. If you dont have enough fire power, its fuck you and turn on the lawyer questing afterwards. It awful funny how you ducks in these high end guilds can get gms to appear on a whim but us small guys get no staff support when y'all fuck up. It gets really old and wares thin. Makes people think you make deals with the staff to get special attention while the rest of us stand in lines waiting forever to get a simple reply. Again, this is why green sucks. Act like a dick, ignore tells, attempt to kill anyone who enters said camps you want, and have gms on speed dial when someone even remotely steps in the wind of your farts. Hell, you guys redefine the rules of camps when you have all the camps and then break down the camps when you want a foothold in a zone. If I was to camp the lord and Am and you guy wanted to take am, regardless if I was sitting on top of it and stated I wanted am and not lord, a gm would force me out to get you into whatever camp you deemed worthy. but if I was to walk into the same situation and wanted am would yo u guys were clearing am lord and frenzy a gm would tell me to get bent and come back at another point when you guys have left freely if you had the camps frrst. It's a very unpleasant feeling knowing I cant experienc classic without the toxic one sided ruling that come from guilds who can contact staff at any time of day for any reason . Along with that spin whatever story to the gm before they show up. Inconsistent ruling is what really makes green suck specially when most to almost always the rulings favor the zerg guild who has direct lines of communication with staff to spin their story first

[Magerin]

But thank you for looking into the issue, spinning your story to the gm and putting to rest once and for all that if your in a zerg guild that ksing and player interference and boxing is all okay as long as you carry the correct guild tags is acceptable behavior. Sure be nice if we all had the same advantages the zerg guild had. Anyone else notice if they have a problem with the zerg a gm shows up and magically rules in favor of the zerg but when you report the infraction, nothing?

[Purplefluffy]

Magerin, my experience has been that Seal Team are permanently camp certain areas and mobs 24/7 to monopolise the drops. In Permafrost they have held the Jailer spawn for months by swapping people in and out. Yes, a lot of the time the seal team members camping are often semi AFK. Because of this I imagine it is hard for a GM to make a decision because the logs show that. I don't like that situation anymore than you do but that is the present state of play.

[BurtMacklinFBI]

Again, this is why green sucks. The leader of the guild bands over backwards to defend its rotten player. I send repeated tells to this player asking which camp they want. No reply just ignores me non stop I petitioned, ask a GM how are these camps in ct are considered, galach replies with if you cant see it you cant claim it. However, allow party a to select a camp if they don't select one, consider the one they can see as their camp. I do so, still nothing. If it would have been the other way around, I had both camps i would have been forced out of one and ksd out of the other becuase of the terrible toxic nature seen in the videos. If you dont have enough fire power, its fuck you and turn on the lawyer questing afterwards. It awful funny how you ducks in these high end guilds can get gms to appear on a whim but us small guys get no staff support when y'all fuck up. It gets really old and wares thin. Makes people think you make deals with the staff to get special attention while the rest of us stand in lines waiting forever to get a simple reply. Again, this is why green sucks. Act like a dick, ignore tells, attempt to kill anyone who enters said camps you want, and have gms on speed dial when someone even remotely steps in the wind of your farts. Hell, you guys redefine the rules of camps when you have all the camps and then break down the camps when you want a foothold in a zone. If I was to camp the lord and Am and you guy wanted to take am, regardless if I was sitting on top of it and stated I wanted am and not lord, a gm would force me out to get you into whatever camp you deemed worthy. but if I was to walk into the same situation and wanted am would yo u guys were clearing am lord and frenzy a gm would tell me to get bent and come back at another point when you guys have left freely if you had the camps frrst. It's a very unpleasant feeling knowing I cant experienc classic without the toxic one sided ruling that come from guilds who can contact staff at any time of day for any reason . Along with that spin whatever story to the gm before they show up. Inconsistent ruling is what really makes green suck specially when most to almost always the rulings favor the zerg guild who has direct lines of communication with staff to spin their story first

imagine thinking galach only answers <SEAL TEAM> petitions. guys a fucken LEGEND and answers every petition in like 0.005 seconds. ABSOLUTE CHAD. best GM server's ever had. and clearly he thinks you are a retard so stop bothering him.

[Jimjam]

Have seal invaded teal yet?

[Obrae]

imagine thinking galach only answers <SEAL TEAM> petitions. guys a fucken LEGEND and answers every petition in like 0.005 seconds. ABSOLUTE CHAD. best GM server's ever had. and clearly he thinks you are a retard so stop bothering him.

Got to agree here, Galach answers before i finish writing my petition sometimes it looks like. This guy is Legend.

That other lizard GM Kikthik or something had the best answer to any of my petition before. Just appear in a flash, said:"NO" then disappeared.

So boss :)

[Zal22]

Again, this is why green sucks. The leader of the guild bands over backwards to defend its rotten player. I send repeated tells to this player asking which camp they want. No reply just ignores me non stop I petitioned, ask a GM how are these camps in ct are considered, galach replies with if you cant see it you cant claim it. However, allow party a to select a camp if they don't select one, consider the one they can see as their camp. I do so, still nothing. If it would have been the other way around, I had both camps i would have been forced out of one and ksd out of the other becuase of the terrible toxic nature seen in the videos. If you dont have enough fire power, its fuck you and turn on the lawyer questing afterwards. It awful funny how you ducks in these high end guilds can get gms to appear on a whim but us small guys get no staff support when y'all fuck up. It gets really old and wares thin. Makes people think you make deals with the staff to get special attention while the rest of us stand in lines waiting forever to get a simple reply. Again, this is why green sucks. Act like a dick, ignore tells, attempt to kill anyone who enters said camps you want, and have gms on speed dial when someone even remotely steps in the wind of your farts. Hell, you guys redefine the rules of camps when you have all the camps and then break down the camps when you want a foothold in a zone. If I was to camp the lord and Am and you guy wanted to take am, regardless if I was sitting on top of it and stated I wanted am and not lord, a gm would force me out to get you into whatever camp you deemed worthy. but if I was to walk into the same situation and wanted am would yo u guys were clearing am lord and frenzy a gm would tell me to get bent and come back at another point when you guys have left freely if you had the camps frrst. It's a very unpleasant feeling knowing I cant experienc classic without the toxic one sided ruling that come from guilds who can contact staff at any time of day for any reason . Along with that spin whatever story to the gm before they show up. Inconsistent ruling is what really makes green suck specially when most to almost always the rulings favor the zerg guild who has direct lines of communication with staff to spin their story first

If this is how you post in a petition forum i would ignore you. W......T......F!

Seal team are AM scum! Fite me!

[Vallaen]

For someone that trained people at the drusella camp that got there before you and got suspended for it and then did it again on other toons they had access to and got those toons suspended you cry alot.

[Phaezed-Reality]

Staff has been superb so far. And can confirm non biased. This is a new baby, and needs to be treated just right, and they know it. It's getting what it needs. Would call CPS on it if i thought differently.

Great job raising the new servers. /bow to staff

[Phatez]

imagine thinking galach only answers <SEAL TEAM> petitions. guys a fucken LEGEND and answers every petition in like 0.005 seconds. ABSOLUTE CHAD. best GM server's ever had. and clearly he thinks you are a retard so stop bothering him.

^

[Nuggie]

Seal team are AM scum! Fite me!

Sure would be nice if folks could leave their blue politics in the rear view mirror and start out fresh....

[Asteria]

The tyranny of Mommy & Daddy don't follow little Michael, Jimmy, Billy, Kevin, Andrew, Bobby, Jake, & Joey into Norrath.

HERE, they are truly FREE. lol

[Xruptor]

Got to agree here, Galach answers before i finish writing my petition sometimes it looks like. This guy is Legend.

That other lizard GM Kikthik or something had the best answer to any of my petition before. Just appear in a flash, said:"NO" then disappeared.

So boss :)

I have to agree to Galach has been super awesome in responding to and assisting me in my petition. I got a response like literally a few minutes after I posted my petition. All this down talk about the staff is unwarranted. If you act like a jerk in the petition or demand stuff they expect to be ignored. Treat the staff positively and correctly and expect to be assisted. Simple as that.

[Fragged]

For someone that trained people at the drusella camp that got there before you and got suspended for it and then did it again on other toons they had access to and got those toons suspended you cry alot.

Oh snap I forgot about that.

Back to your old ways Magerin?

[Nirgon]

Sure would be nice if folks could leave their blue politics in the rear view mirror and start out fresh....

some asshurts are forever

[Xruptor]

I also want to point out that I've had positive and negative interactions with Seal Team. Though more positive than negative.

There have been some quite helpful members of Seal Team whom were open to assisting me in Green. I've even had some Seal Team members randomly just buff me out of nowhere when I was at a camp and such. Does this sound to you like a guild full of jerks? I think not. Like I've said, at least for me my interactions with Seal Team have been more positive then negative.

As an example, one time in Unrest a Bard from Seal Team was kiting around leveling, but knew our group was there near the wall, so he stayed in the other side of the house when kiting. He even dropped off a few beetles now and then at our camp for us to grab. He was a really cool dude. I want to point out that I'm at a lower level and these negative interactions seem to occur at higher levels. So that may be a factor, but again this is my opinion. Most of the members I've come in contact with have been extremely kind. I think if the guild officers step up this would be more likely the case. How they want their guild reputation to be on the server is completely up to them. It's obvious that they are not seen in a good light right now and if they want to fix their reputation they need to step up.

In terms of the negative times, I would rather not get into into full details. Other than saying there are SOME truly huge ass wipes and jerks in the guild. Including a time they were camping a spot only to sell it. I mean seriously?

There will always be bad apples in a bunch and sadly it's those bad apples that cause all the problems. These issues usually start from the top of the ladder. Whether the officers in the guild choose to act on those bad apples is up to them and it will only reflect their reputation. I'm sadden to say that it's a lack of action at times and all this DRAMA associated with Seal Team have caused some good friends of mine to /move to Teal server. Which seems to be what folks are doing lately. The grass is greener .... so forth and so on.

But that's all I will say on that subject.

[Wallicker]

I also want to point out that I've had positive and negative interactions with Seal Team. Though more positive than negative.

There have been some quite helpful members of Seal Team whom were open to assisting me in Green. I've even had some Seal Team members randomly just buff me out of nowhere when I was at a camp and such. Does this sound to you like a guild full of jerks? I think not. Like I've said, at least for me my interactions with Seal Team have been more positive then negative.

As an example, one time in Unrest a Bard from Seal Team was kiting around leveling, but knew our group was there near the wall, so he stayed in the other side of the house when kiting. He even dropped off a few beetles now and then at our camp for us to grab. He was a really cool dude. I want to point out that I'm at a lower level and these negative interactions seem to occur at higher levels. So that may be a factor, but again this is my opinion. Most of the members I've come in contact with have been extremely kind. I think if the guild officers step up this would be more likely the case. How they want their guild reputation to be on the server is completely up to them. It's obvious that they are not seen in a good light right now and if they want to fix their reputation they need to step up.

Was this bard Walli? If so that was me! I’ve been on green 5 days now and in <Seal Team> the sentiment from others seems mixed on the guild as a whole but within the guild I can say the majority of members are extremely helpful and pleasant by my accounts

[Xruptor]

Was this bard Walli? If so that was me! I’ve been on green 5 days now and in <Seal Team> the sentiment from others seems mixed on the guild as a whole but within the guild I can say the majority of members are extremely helpful and pleasant by my accounts

So it was YOU! Why you evil, son of... LOL j/k :D.... No but seriously man you rocked. Yeah it was you that day. We were all commenting at how courteous you were and helpful. Bringing us the occasional beetles and such. It was funny when you had to go afk and we were chill about it, because you hung around our group while you were afk. That way you wouldn't die a horrible death. Though if we would have wiped, you would have been doomed.

It's a shame that there is such bad reputation surrounding the guild because of a few bad apples, wish there were more folks like you.

[Bazia]

really stupid name and members are level 12 bards in unrest

very elite guild

[Bazia]

I have to agree to Galach has been super awesome in responding to and assisting me in my petition. I got a response like literally a few minutes after I posted my petition. All this down talk about the staff is unwarranted. If you act like a jerk in the petition or demand stuff they expect to be ignored. Treat the staff positively and correctly and expect to be assisted. Simple as that.

green gets quick response teal you will go days before you hear from a guide if ever

[Magerin]

Galach is rather quick with most of his replies regarding petitions just doesnt actually do much but side with seal team when he appears. Again, this is why green sucks. He was the one who told me if they cant see it they can claim it. By all accounts if you just ignore tells, play dumb and pull the same shit you saw in the videos, you dont hsve to be held accountable for nothing or share any camps you're covering. Just be a duck head, do what you want and dont interact with players when it comes to you covering 2, 3 or 4 camps just have the ability to box, have more fire power to ks and you'll be just fine. My petitions are rather simple. I ask if this can be done, post the logs of my tells asking which of the 3 spawns this person wants with no replies and the videos of how the player responds. Again, noting happens and this is why green sucks. And I'm so glad people believe I can log into 3 toons at once to train on 1 of them then 2 box the other two to take a mob. Yet, I have all my accounts in tact...while the player at the center of the mess has accounts ban for RMTs on both green and blue carrying the very same guild tag you guys do LoL. That alone should speak volumes about the guilds priorities.

[Pozzey]

Galach is rather quick with most of his replies regarding petitions just doesnt actually do much but side with seal team when he appears. Again, this is why green sucks. He was the one who told me if they cant see it they can claim it. By all accounts if you just ignore tells, play dumb and pull the same shit you saw in the videos, you dont hsve to be held accountable for nothing or share any camps you're covering. Just be a duck head, do what you want and dont interact with players when it comes to you covering 2, 3 or 4 camps just have the ability to box, have more fire power to ks and you'll be just fine. My petitions are rather simple. I ask if this can be done, post the logs of my tells asking which of the 3 spawns this person wants with no replies and the videos of how the player responds. Again, noting happens and this is why green sucks. And I'm so glad people believe I can log into 3 toons at once to train on 1 of them then 2 box the other two to take a mob. Yet, I have all my accounts in tact...while the player at the center of the mess has accounts ban for RMTs on both green and blue carrying the very same guild tag you guys do LoL. That alone should speak volumes about the guilds priorities.

If Galach is saying "no LOS required" then that contravenes word for word what Llandris has declared - i.e. 1 room = 1 camp.

Are we saying now that the camp rules depend on what Guide is online?... lol.

[galach]

Again, this is why green sucks. The leader of the guild bands over backwards to defend its rotten player. I send repeated tells to this player asking which camp they want. No reply just ignores me non stop I petitioned, ask a GM how are these camps in ct are considered, galach replies with if you cant see it you cant claim it. However, allow party a to select a camp if they don't select one, consider the one they can see as their camp. I do so, still nothing. If it would have been the other way around, I had both camps i would have been forced out of one and ksd out of the other becuase of the terrible toxic nature seen in the videos. If you dont have enough fire power, its fuck you and turn on the lawyer questing afterwards. It awful funny how you ducks in these high end guilds can get gms to appear on a whim but us small guys get no staff support when y'all fuck up. It gets really old and wares thin. Makes people think you make deals with the staff to get special attention while the rest of us stand in lines waiting forever to get a simple reply. Again, this is why green sucks. Act like a dick, ignore tells, attempt to kill anyone who enters said camps you want, and have gms on speed dial when someone even remotely steps in the wind of your farts. Hell, you guys redefine the rules of camps when you have all the camps and then break down the camps when you want a foothold in a zone. If I was to camp the lord and Am and you guy wanted to take am, regardless if I was sitting on top of it and stated I wanted am and not lord, a gm would force me out to get you into whatever camp you deemed worthy. but if I was to walk into the same situation and wanted am would yo u guys were clearing am lord and frenzy a gm would tell me to get bent and come back at another point when you guys have left freely if you had the camps frrst. It's a very unpleasant feeling knowing I cant experienc classic without the toxic one sided ruling that come from guilds who can contact staff at any time of day for any reason . Along with that spin whatever story to the gm before they show up. Inconsistent ruling is what really makes green suck specially when most to almost always the rulings favor the zerg guild who has direct lines of communication with staff to spin their story first

It's always best to have video evidence and post it in the petition forum if a CSR staff member doesn't respond in a timely manner. We are flooded in petitions from Green, Teal, Red and blue. I can't always be online to witness stuff first hand. It's very hard to make a ruling just by encounter logs when it's after the fact and both people are not online anymore. We have disciplined many members from multiple guilds. I don't have much time to look through all the video/picture evidence, but rely on other CSR to get around to it and discipline. I have been focusing more on flagging forum petitions for reimbursements & in game petitions.

General rules are that dungeons are line of sight & outdoor zones are 1 spawn.

[Uuruk]

Flooded from red lmao

[Pozzey]

General rules are that dungeons are line of sight & outdoor zones are 1 spawn.

Pras. Status quo restored. :D

[Magerin]

[Wed Nov 20 19:12:09 2019] You told Galach, 'but for my understanding, is the temple one big o camp?'
[Wed Nov 20 19:12:22 2019] Galach tells you, 'dungeon, so line of sight.'
[Wed Nov 20 19:12:28 2019] Galach tells you, 'gets complicated since it's a maze'
[Wed Nov 20 19:12:46 2019] You told Galach, 'ah, alright. so, I wasnt out of line by sitting in the one room waiting on the spawn then?'
[Wed Nov 20 19:13:01 2019] Galach tells you, 'correct, but they would have option on what they want'
[Wed Nov 20 19:13:09 2019] You told Galach, 'they wouldnt reply to me'

This is the direct word I got from Galach speaking with him in game. But this player just doesnt reply to tells and just interferes by dispelling my mobs. Im sorry if what I posted before confused anyone.

This, again, is why Green sucks and Seal Team is terrible. The guild leader has already made statements about a staff side investigation claiming no wrong doing on Seal Team's end and Im somehow the sole bad actor when even I havent heard anything on my petition. Is this guild leader just guessing there is no wrong doing or is there an open line of communication with GMs and Seal Team the sweep these matter under the rug? I dont know, but I sure hope this isnt the case, and if it is, this tread has revieled this problem. How can guild leaders possible play some sort of role in the investigation process while leaving the other parties out of the process? Seems sorta one sided, given the this server, Green, and this guild, Seal Team, already has an RMT ban to its name.

[Magerin]

Bottom line: Just dont reply to tells and you can do whatever you want. or so it appears.

[Teppler]

Flooded from red lmao

We got GM's doubling as comedians now.

[Uuruk]

https://i.imgur.com/bfpDq4n.png

[Nirgon]

[Wed Nov 20 19:12:09 2019] You told Galach, 'but for my understanding, is the temple one big o camp?'
[Wed Nov 20 19:12:22 2019] Galach tells you, 'dungeon, so line of sight.'
[Wed Nov 20 19:12:28 2019] Galach tells you, 'gets complicated since it's a maze'
[Wed Nov 20 19:12:46 2019] You told Galach, 'ah, alright. so, I wasnt out of line by sitting in the one room waiting on the spawn then?'
[Wed Nov 20 19:13:01 2019] Galach tells you, 'correct, but they would have option on

I read this much

[Fragged]

[Wed Nov 20 19:12:09 2019] You told Galach, 'but for my understanding, is the temple one big o camp?'
[Wed Nov 20 19:12:22 2019] Galach tells you, 'dungeon, so line of sight.'
[Wed Nov 20 19:12:28 2019] Galach tells you, 'gets complicated since it's a maze'
[Wed Nov 20 19:12:46 2019] You told Galach, 'ah, alright. so, I wasnt out of line by sitting in the one room waiting on the spawn then?'
[Wed Nov 20 19:13:01 2019] Galach tells you, 'correct, but they would have option on what they want'
[Wed Nov 20 19:13:09 2019] You told Galach, 'they wouldnt reply to me'

This is the direct word I got from Galach speaking with him in game. But this player just doesnt reply to tells and just interferes by dispelling my mobs. Im sorry if what I posted before confused anyone.

This, again, is why Green sucks and Seal Team is terrible. The guild leader has already made statements about a staff side investigation claiming no wrong doing on Seal Team's end and Im somehow the sole bad actor when even I havent heard anything on my petition. Is this guild leader just guessing there is no wrong doing or is there an open line of communication with GMs and Seal Team the sweep these matter under the rug? I dont know, but I sure hope this isnt the case, and if it is, this tread has revieled this problem. How can guild leaders possible play some sort of role in the investigation process while leaving the other parties out of the process? Seems sorta one sided, given the this server, Green, and this guild, Seal Team, already has an RMT ban to its name.

GM's are corrupt and one person from a guild is a dick so the rest of the guild is also a dick.

Oh and the guildleader is a dick for listening to the GM's.

Did I get it right?

[Nirgon]

You got it right if you didn't read it

[Pozzey]

GM's are corrupt

Staff bashing.

Typical <Teal Seam>.

[Magerin]

GM's are corrupt and one person from a guild is a dick so the rest of the guild is also a dick.

Oh and the guildleader is a dick for listening to the GM's.

Did I get it right?

That's just how your spinning it.

What Ive posted is the result of asking which camp Stress wanted, talking with at least 3 officers about how stress wont declare which camp he wants and when I took the camp opposite of him, he just A, KSing, or B, interfering with the kill in an attempt to kill me to keep both camps. Again, this is why Green sucks, and Seal Team is terrible. Following all the rules here and trying to be respectful about it. Seal Team has so many camps on lock down and pulls so many dick moves its no surprise "/list" had to be created to begin with.

AGAIN, these actions were made by Stress well before anyone knew I was magerin playing emberlie. However, once you found out it was me, you go lawyer questing you way around saying "oh its magerin, you are the rotten apple as declared by...well us, fuck off and get bent, we will be /telling GMs our stories and telling the GM its Magerin and ignore his petition because we dont deem it to be trust worthy or honest game play on his behalf and any videos posted by him is 'fake evidence collecting' that isnt to be trusted." like I had something to do Stress KSing me and I somehow forced stress to dispell my mobs, and unknown to stress it was magerin, I was already engaged with.

Yeah, im the rotten apple here, not Stress, not Aikons, not Seal Team, but a player they didnt was involved until after the fact. Gotttcchaaaaa. There might be good people in Seal Team, however, going out of your way to defend such behavior, and to go as far as openly back an repeat offender of RMTing, not once, but twice (both on blue and green) should say all anyone needs to say, really. You guys Kluwen rich yet?

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Is there any explanation as to why REPEAT OFFENSE RMTers are being allowed to play on Green/Teal at all?

Also, are they being investigated as the server progresses? Or will it take two years again on Green/Teal before their *OBVIOUS* RMT is invenstigated?

These REPEAT OFFENSE RMTers are monopolizing camps, by training and KSing, just like they were for years on Blue. Hundreds of people KNEW these players were RMTing on Blue yet they got away with it for years. Will they be allowed to do the same thing on Green/Teal?

Why do these "top tier" Guilds allow MULTIPLE OFFENSE RMTers and to join them?

[Albanwr]

Is there any explanation as to why REPEAT OFFENSE RMTers are being allowed to play on Green/Teal at all?

Also, are they being investigated as the server progresses? Or will it take two years again on Green/Teal before their *OBVIOUS* RMT is invenstigated?

These REPEAT OFFENSE RMTers are monopolizing camps, by training and KSing, just like they were for years on Blue. Hundreds of people KNEW these players were RMTing on Blue yet they got away with it for years. Will they be allowed to do the same thing on Green/Teal?

Why do these "top tier" Guilds allow MULTIPLE OFFENSE RMTers and to join them?

If you know who they are, provide proof to the staff. If you are just blowing smoke, then quit acting like you know who is RMTing.

Again, if you know of proof, provide it and move on.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

If you know who they are, provide proof to the staff. If you are just blowing smoke, then quit acting like you know who is RMTing.

Again, if you know of proof, provide it and move on.

Some of these players have had MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS banned for RMT on Blue now they're here on Green behaving the exact same way (monopolizing camps via training and KSing.)

Do you REALLY believe they're playing legitimately now?

You can check the "RMT Sites" yourself and see what's for sale. People are literally offering to pay hourly wages for people to sit on /list to monopolize these camps.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

I have followed up on this issue. Both of the situations players in the surrounding area stated that you did not have the camp first, Emberlie. You entered a <Seal Team> camp in an attempt to grief and collect fake "evidence" to slander our guild. Your exploits on blue have solidified a musk of toxicity that follows you and your actions on green seemingly follow the same pattern.

The reason your petitions have not been answered for four weeks is that the petitions were resolved by GM's with no wrong doing found by members of our guild.

'It's Humans like you who have ruined your own lands, You'll not ruin mine!'

Phatez

Ill basically take the word of ANYONE ELSE on the server over yours.

You've been lying, cheating, exploiting and RMTing on P99 for years now.

Go play another fucking game for a yea, would ya?

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Sure would be nice if folks could leave their blue politics in the rear view mirror and start out fresh....

Why would they? Its many of the exact same players behaving in the exact same manner.

Including several of whom were perma-banned on Blue for RMT (and some of THEM multiple times for RMT)

[Pozzey]

I'd say only 10% of seal team RMT.

But with a 400 person roster.

That's a lot of fucking dollars.

Feel me dawg.

[Daloon]

P99 is the only place RMT is a taboo phrase. It's literally allowed and encouraged in almost all major MMORPGs now adays like WoW (tokens), EQ (kronos), even fucking Runescape has endorsed RMT. It was equally present back in classic EQ too. Who gives a fuck if someone wants to make a few hundred dollars playing a video game or sell their shit when they leave.. Get over it. RMT moaners are about 5x worse than RMT itself. inb4 ""b bu but it hurts the gameplay since high value items get camped" oh, okay tell me more :rolleyes:

It's against the server rules, that is fine. But whining about it as if it ruins your immersion or makes the offender an evil person is pathetic. Grow a pair.

[Bazia]

wow what a fucking horrible opinion, some unemployed retard camping items forever to sell for real cash and it never being available to people actually playing the game is horrible

if you need money get a fucking job you fucking losers

[Madbad]

TIL I can claim anything I can see as a camp in a dungeon!

THE MORE YOU KNOW (tm)

[Bazia]

ive literally never seen a guide on teal mediate a camp dispute, so my advice is if you want something just nuke burn it and pretend the person who was already sitting there doesnt exist

[Vizax_Xaziv]

P99 is the only place RMT is a taboo phrase. It's literally allowed and encouraged in almost all major MMORPGs now adays like WoW (tokens), EQ (kronos), even fucking Runescape has endorsed RMT. It was equally present back in classic EQ too. Who gives a fuck if someone wants to make a few hundred dollars playing a video game or sell their shit when they leave.. Get over it. RMT moaners are about 5x worse than RMT itself. inb4 ""b bu but it hurts the gameplay since high value items get camped" oh, okay tell me more :rolleyes:

It's against the server rules, that is fine. But whining about it as if it ruins your immersion or makes the offender an evil person is pathetic. Grow a pair.

The problem with RMT is, indeed, how it negatively effects the gameplay. Such as a certain group of individuals permacamping the Earth Staff for YEARS on Blue. And that's just one item.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

ive literally never seen a guide on teal mediate a camp dispute, so my advice is if you want something just nuke burn it and pretend the person who was already sitting there doesnt exist

Well on Green I've seen Galach mediate camp disputes in Crushbonre, lol.

Petitioned for one myself once and he was there 10 minutes later.

Stern, but fair, is our Lord Galach!

[Phatez]

The problem with RMT is, indeed, how it negatively effects the gameplay. Such as a certain group of individuals permacamping the Earth Staff for YEARS on Blue. And that's just one item.

There were 3-4 small groups of people monopolizing that. It takes a small team of skilled individuals to farm hate consistently. There were probably even more than 3-4 of these types of groups that emerged over time. You were never in one it seems; I wonder if that has any correlation to your social or gameplay skills.

[Kluwen2]

There were 3-4 small groups of people monopolizing that. It takes a small team of skilled individuals to farm hate consistently. There were probably even more than 3-4 of these types of groups that emerged over time. You were never in one it seems; I wonder if that has any correlation to your social or gameplay skills.

Oh snap get him Phatez!

[Kirrund]

P99 is the only place RMT is a taboo phrase. It's literally allowed and encouraged in almost all major MMORPGs now adays like WoW (tokens), EQ (kronos), even fucking Runescape has endorsed RMT. It was equally present back in classic EQ too. Who gives a fuck if someone wants to make a few hundred dollars playing a video game or sell their shit when they leave.. Get over it. RMT moaners are about 5x worse than RMT itself. inb4 ""b bu but it hurts the gameplay since high value items get camped" oh, okay tell me more :rolleyes:

It's against the server rules, that is fine. But whining about it as if it ruins your immersion or makes the offender an evil person is pathetic. Grow a pair.

You miss the point. It's not about trading real currency for digital items to begin with. It's about the fact that since it existing gives it real value, and when people see that value they never know when to quit. So you show up, and you want an item to play with in the game, and to you that item represents its worth in game and whatever time it takes to get it, but to them, it's infinitely more valuable because it represents real money. Which means they never have enough. They never know when to quit. There is always more, more, more, and because of the difference in perceived value one is willing to go so much further and stoop so much lower in order to get what they want. It ruins the game for people who just want to play as intended. One person is playing a game, and the other person is working a job.

When they go to any lengths to get that dollar over people who are just playing the goddamn game, it doesn't make them evil, it just makes them a complete and total dick.

[Fammaden]

There were 3-4 small groups of people monopolizing that. It takes a small team of skilled individuals to farm hate consistently. There were probably even more than 3-4 of these types of groups that emerged over time. You were never in one it seems; I wonder if that has any correlation to your social or gameplay skills.

You heard it here folks. If you played blue and weren't part of a rule breaking, greedy, likely RMT'ing, team of farmers holding the earth staff hostage for a million plat payoff from desperate mages.... you were a BAD EQ PLAYER AND SHOULD BE ASHAMED.

App < Team of Seals > today!

[Widan]

There were 3-4 small groups of people monopolizing that. It takes a small team of skilled individuals to farm hate consistently. There were probably even more than 3-4 of these types of groups that emerged over time. You were never in one it seems; I wonder if that has any correlation to your social or gameplay skills.

Yes it does, it shows that he obviously has more social skills than some unemployed drugees spending all their waking hours farming emu loot to RMT and fund their drug habits/pay rent.