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Misek84
02-15-2019, 02:10 PM
Funny how so many people believe in the liberial lie of “free” healthcare and college paid for by the 1%. Simple math would show you that that is impossible and in fact regular working people will just end up paying for this “free” healthcare and college, like they always do.

From recent stats the top 1% (individuals/families making over $470k) made little under $2trillion dollars in yearly income and paid $550billion in fed income taxes at an average rate of about 28%. So at a rate of 100% the theoretically limit you can squeeze out of the rich would be an extra $1.5trillion (even less than that due to state income taxes and other taxes). However, taxing people making over $470k a year at 100% would certainly result in economical collapse in a year and country collapse in 2. I would figure the most you can possibly squeeze out of them without causing complete collapse would be maybe $750billion (that is a very generous estimate and would still cause serious economical problems). So even with the most favirable assumptions you can only get $750billion which isnt even enough to cover our current yearly deficit let alone some crazy expensive things like free healthcare or free college. Thus were would the money come from, the only place it mathematically can come from, the middle class. In the end if you want a normal life, family, and home you gonna end paying double for healthcare/college through increased taxes instead of paying only half of that directly to insurances/colleges. I say double in increased taxes because you now gonna have to pay for the millions upon millions of freeloaders currently not paying anything in federal income taxes.

The more you know (TM)

feniin
02-15-2019, 02:15 PM
Thanks for the wall of text that nobody will read.

Universal healthcare isn't a fairy tale, you donut. It works in every other Western nation. We're just too fucking stupid and let the rich tell us it won't work here.

Misek84
02-15-2019, 02:27 PM
Thanks for the wall of text that nobody will read.

Universal healthcare isn't a fairy tale, you donut. It works in every other Western nation. We're just too fucking stupid and let the rich tell us it won't work here.

Lol so u bash my comment because it has to many words cause you can argue the math. Im not saying its a fairy tale and of course it is possible. Im just arguing the fairy tail that it will be “free” (paid for by the rich). If the middle class wants to double what they pay for healthcare/college so some freeloaders get it for free go ahead but dont lie about who will pay for it. In the end notings for free and someone/sometime will have to pay for it.

Raev
02-15-2019, 03:24 PM
Universal healthcare isn't a fairy tale, you donut. It works in every other Western nation.

Britain's universal healthcare sucks (https://mises.org/wire/its-time-give-britains-national-health-service). Some highlights:

A 2011 report demonstrated that the average cancer survival rate was 71.18% in the USA as compared to 54.48% in England.
In Britain a shocking 4 million people languish on waiting lists according to official sources in a population of scarcely over 65 million
25% of British cardiac patients die waiting for treatment, and an investigation by a British newspaper found that delays in treatment for colon and lung cancer patients have been so long that 20% of cases were incurable by the time they finally received care
NHS's budget has tripled since 1990
According to the OECD Britain has the lowest number of doctors per thousand population in the advanced world


I am not defending crony capitalist system we have here, but socialism fails at medicine just like it fails at everything else.

Misek84
02-15-2019, 03:33 PM
I am not defending crony capitalist system we have here, but socialism fails at medicine just like it fails at everything else.

Socialism doesnt fail at everything, its really good at getting votes from dumasses by promising them free stuff but delivering misery with a touch of class/race division.

Wonkie
02-15-2019, 03:38 PM
Socialism doesnt fail at everything, its really good at getting votes from dumasses by promising them free stuff but delivering misery with a touch of class/race division.

there is no war but class war my friend :)

Lune
02-15-2019, 03:45 PM
Britain's universal healthcare sucks (https://mises.org/wire/its-time-give-britains-national-health-service). Some highlights:

A 2011 report demonstrated that the average cancer survival rate was 71.18% in the USA as compared to 54.48% in England.
In Britain a shocking 4 million people languish on waiting lists according to official sources in a population of scarcely over 65 million
25% of British cardiac patients die waiting for treatment, and an investigation by a British newspaper found that delays in treatment for colon and lung cancer patients have been so long that 20% of cases were incurable by the time they finally received care
NHS's budget has tripled since 1990
According to the OECD Britain has the lowest number of doctors per thousand population in the advanced world


I am not defending crony capitalist system we have here, but socialism fails at medicine just like it fails at everything else.

Cite healthcare statistics that don't come from an editorial on an Austrian-economics propaganda-horn.

Look at the sources cited by your link:

https://i.imgur.com/Onosfth.jpg

Not one scholarly article or source; only other news articles, daily mail, and fellow anti-socialism propaganda pieces.

You're gullible and easily tricked by official-sounding editorials.

America
02-15-2019, 03:55 PM
clicked LUne latest reply thread to do this

*makes toilet flushing noise*

Raev
02-15-2019, 04:01 PM
Feel free to produce better sources that refute any facts I have posted. I'll update my viewpoint if you can.

Wonkie
02-15-2019, 05:32 PM
He didn't negotiate anything. The uniparty shit on his desk and he ate it.

Crust
02-15-2019, 05:48 PM
The only realization I have come to is how MOST leftist don't know how to lose with grace.

Probably a lack of young sports experience. When you lose it's not the other sides fault...crying, bitching, whining just wastes time better suited to plan for the next encounter.

And how many NPC's are out there parroting the BS CNN talking points.

Triiz
02-15-2019, 05:57 PM
Britain's universal healthcare sucks (https://mises.org/wire/its-time-give-britains-national-health-service). Some highlights:

A 2011 report demonstrated that the average cancer survival rate was 71.18% in the USA as compared to 54.48% in England.
In Britain a shocking 4 million people languish on waiting lists according to official sources in a population of scarcely over 65 million
25% of British cardiac patients die waiting for treatment, and an investigation by a British newspaper found that delays in treatment for colon and lung cancer patients have been so long that 20% of cases were incurable by the time they finally received care
NHS's budget has tripled since 1990
According to the OECD Britain has the lowest number of doctors per thousand population in the advanced world


I am not defending crony capitalist system we have here, but socialism fails at medicine just like it fails at everything else.



What percentage of the population was covered by that cancer "study"? I clicked the source for that claim, it's literally 2 sentences and a chart. Not exactly credible to say the least. There are discrepancies but not nearly that large. Britain's numbers also cover 100% of the population while the U.S. numbers don't.
https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/dcpc/research/articles/concord-2.htm

What is shocking about that? There are almost 30 million American's without health insurance, down from 45 million pre-Obamacare. 37% of the population is on some form of government insurance, without Medicare/Medicaid/CHIP we would probably have upwards 100 million people that couldn't afford to see a doctor.

It's a hell of a lot better to "languish on a waiting list" than to not be able to get any medical care outside of going to an emergency room and risking bankruptcy.

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2018/demo/p60-264.html


The U.S. budget has quadrupled since 1990.
https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_budget_fy90

It doesn't matter if a country has 100 doctors per 1000 if you're a person that can't afford to see one.

Britain's system has a lot of problems and isn't a model for the US, but our current system straight up excludes more than 1/3 of the country if government assistance is removed from the equation and that doesn't count the people that are under insured. How is that not a failing system?

feniin
02-15-2019, 06:05 PM
The only realization I have come to is how MOST leftist don't know how to lose with grace.

Probably a lack of young sports experience. When you lose it's not the other sides fault...crying, bitching, whining just wastes time better suited to plan for the next encounter.

And how many NPC's are out there parroting the BS CNN talking points.

lolol. Do you forget that 2008-2016 happened? Fucking hypocrites :rolleyes:

maskedmelon
02-15-2019, 06:34 PM
2. Republicans are 100% tribal at this point and will side with child molesters, traitors, drug addicts, satanists, or anyone else they would otherwise hate as long as they have an "R" next to their name.


hah! Good luck finding a leftist courageous enough to put an R next to their name!

America
02-15-2019, 06:36 PM
hah! Good luck finding a leftist courageous enough to put an R next to their name!

i'm a catch aren't i :cool:

Tiax
02-15-2019, 06:39 PM
GOOD NORMAL THINKING PLUBLIC ONLY. I THINK THEIR SHOULD BE FEDERAL MILITARY POLICE THAT MONITORS THE DEMOCRATIC LIBERAL TRASH MEDIA AND THEIR CORRUPT FRIENDS FOR CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR SUCH THINGS AS TREASON AND A LAWLESS CRIMINAL MOUTH BEHAVIOR SUCH AS SLANDER AND MALICE.

Tiax
02-15-2019, 06:40 PM
GOOD NORMAL THINKING PLUBLIC ONLY. GOOD JOB PRESIDENT TRUMP. TELL ME WHO LOVES YOU AMERICA PRESIDENT TRUMP AND VICE PRESIDENT PENCE LOVES YOU AND THE BORDER WALL LOVES YOU AND MARSHALL LAW LOVES YOU . NEXT FEDERALIZE THE NATIONAL GUARD IN ALL STATES IN AMERICA .

Raev
02-15-2019, 06:43 PM
Triiz, take a second here to admire the beauty of America's health care system. Like all systems of control, it has been carefully designed so that the serfs are placed in a local maximum where we lose if we fail to comply, but also in a global minimum where there is huge net transfer of wealth to the pharmaceutical companies (Obamacare was basically written by the health care industry). It would be easy for Americans to fix our health care system, but we don't.

What's the fix?
Why don't we do it?

Also, the cancer survival rate was one thing I googled around for a bit. This blog post (https://politicalcalculations.blogspot.com/2007/10/closer-look-at-cancer-survival-rates.html#.XGdAo5xlCV4) is an easy to read table representation of one of those 'sciency' papers. I'd guess that Britain is doing a bit better (or the US is doing worse) in the 2010s. Anyway, as I stated I am not defending our health care system. I just think that a true free market solution would blow socialized medicine out of the water. No one would be without health care, as the market would meet all price points (except people unwilling to work, of course, and I am not overly concerned there).

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
02-15-2019, 07:08 PM
Americans are in a real pickle!

Immigration is the one area where Democrats should concede some space. It’s okay to be concerned about the solvency of your institutions amid an onslaught of illegal and legal immigration (including asylum). Alternatively, Republicans are bad faith actors whose platform can almost entirely be proven as ineffective using examples from every other developed country.

Your best areas are enclaves at best whose success can be boiled down to:

- good climate attracting wealthy people.
- resource rich country
- too tier research and education pre-1990
- opportune timing and positioning for rebuilding the world (post WW2).
- relatively homogenous population during the most important period.

Any 1st world country able to select even 2/5 of those is either past you or passing you in QOL. There’s no excuse. America needs ranked choice, viable third parties and at the very minimum, quality education ACROSS THE COUNTRY to be able to escape bumper sticker politics.

Democrats are not the answer but Republicans are DEFINITELY not. A swing to the right now will only further calcify this trend and ensure every last drop of wealth that was created goes to your best zip codes or, more likely, overseas.

Inb4 but muhh median income!

Teppler
02-15-2019, 07:47 PM
Americans are in a real pickle!

Immigration is the one area where Democrats should concede some space. It’s okay to be concerned about the solvency of your institutions amid an onslaught of illegal and legal immigration (including asylum). Alternatively, Republicans are bad faith actors whose platform can almost entirely be proven as ineffective using examples from every other developed country.

Your best areas are enclaves at best whose success can be boiled down to:

- good climate attracting wealthy people.
- resource rich country
- too tier research and education pre-1990
- opportune timing and positioning for rebuilding the world (post WW2).
- relatively homogenous population during the most important period.

Any 1st world country able to select even 2/5 of those is either past you or passing you in QOL. There’s no excuse. America needs ranked choice, viable third parties and at the very minimum, quality education ACROSS THE COUNTRY to be able to escape bumper sticker politics.

Democrats are not the answer but Republicans are DEFINITELY not. A swing to the right now will only further calcify this trend and ensure every last drop of wealth that was created goes to your best zip codes or, more likely, overseas.

Inb4 but muhh median income!

We have horrible horrible rot in our government. The establishment on republican and democrat side are bought out by foreigners. They will bleed us a slow death while they fund Israel from within the US and out.

You're kind of clueless of what is going on at the border. Establishment democrat elites are the decision makers for their parties. Open borders dooms demographics for anyone who desires responsible spending in government. It has nothing to do with whats right for america. It's like a checkmate move for the establishment to make that ensures their power forever, in just a number of years. They get to make more and more of these bloated bills with irresponsible spending that does stuff like sends more money to Israel. Then Israel bombs the rest of the middle east with our resources and then somehow we're back at war in the middle east fighting that skirmish. And our low/middle class wages stay stagnant because we have hordes of low class workers filtering in from the border. And tons and tons of other problems.

feniin
02-15-2019, 07:50 PM
You guys are so afraid of the Boogeyman illegal immigrants that you're not seeing the automation and outsourcing of your current and future jobs by the controlling class.

Teppler
02-15-2019, 07:58 PM
You guys are so afraid of the Boogeyman illegal immigrants that you're not seeing the automation and outsourcing of your current and future jobs by the controlling class.

Automation has been a threat since the industrial revolution and way before. It hasn't stopped jobs. And there absolutely should be protection against outsourcing.

America
02-15-2019, 08:33 PM
do NOT bundle automation and outsourcing into the same ethical category you gosh dang luddite

America
02-15-2019, 08:35 PM
but if da farm just automatically produces enough grain 2 feed da world, without me having to werk, then who am gonna pay me 2 hoe corn

hobart
02-15-2019, 08:37 PM
I'm afraid of thousands of anchor babies on my taxes, aren't you ? Less you already living off mine .

You're a trumptard. How much in taxes do you think you pay? And what % of that do you think goes to immigrants?

If you make in the mid six figures you should be more pissed at Jeff Bezos than you are at immigrants. He and his buddies are costing you a lot more.

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
02-15-2019, 08:45 PM
We have horrible horrible rot in our government. The establishment on republican and democrat side are bought out by foreigners. They will bleed us a slow death while they fund Israel from within the US and out.

You're kind of clueless of what is going on at the border. Establishment democrat elites are the decision makers for their parties. Open borders dooms demographics for anyone who desires responsible spending in government. It has nothing to do with whats right for america. It's like a checkmate move for the establishment to make that ensures their power forever, in just a number of years. They get to make more and more of these bloated bills with irresponsible spending that does stuff like sends more money to Israel. Then Israel bombs the rest of the middle east with our resources and then somehow we're back at war in the middle east fighting that skirmish. And our low/middle class wages stay stagnant because we have hordes of low class workers filtering in from the border. And tons and tons of other problems.

No, that’s pretty close to what I’m saying. No party has a full claim on adventurism but saying both sides are bad vastly understated the extent to the corruption R’s are in your country.

Either way, do away with both or hijack one for the better good and you’ll be in a much better place .

hobart
02-15-2019, 08:45 PM
No, the goal of a national emergency is for Trump to scam the stupidest people in his base for 2 more years -- Ann Coulter.

Yes, MAGAts. One of the three people who does all of your "thinking" for you gets it.

She should have said "scam the stupidest people in his already laughably stupid base", but she gets it. Fat Rush gets it. Fat Hannity gets it.

Basically, Trans-Larry, Curly, and Moe are all smarter than you are. You're being duped, simpletons.

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
02-15-2019, 08:47 PM
You guys are so afraid of the Boogeyman illegal immigrants that you're not seeing the automation and outsourcing of your current and future jobs by the controlling class.

Immigration has destroyed the bottom end of the entire construction industry in the same way automation did to manufacturing. When people distill the argument down to “Mexicans only clean houses and pick vegetables” you lose a lot of the nuance and therefore ignore the complains of the vast majority of people who’s lives are negatively affected by that.

Roofers, deck builders, landscapers and other semi-skilled but non red-seal trades commonly make $20/hour in countries that have tight controls on their immigration. That has a huge effect on the overall economy

Bazia
02-15-2019, 10:51 PM
fuck drumpftards open borders now, we are all immigrants you racist shitheads

Bazia
02-15-2019, 10:52 PM
Immigration has destroyed the bottom end of the entire construction industry in the same way automation did to manufacturing. When people distill the argument down to “Mexicans only clean houses and pick vegetables” you lose a lot of the nuance and therefore ignore the complains of the vast majority of people who’s lives are negatively affected by that.

Roofers, deck builders, landscapers and other semi-skilled but non red-seal trades commonly make $20/hour in countries that have tight controls on their immigration. That has a huge effect on the overall economy

some things are more important than money

feniin
02-15-2019, 11:21 PM
some things are more important than money

Nah. Not to Republicans. Everything is about the dollar and how much they can squeeze out of the less fortunate/environment.

DMN
02-15-2019, 11:59 PM
Nah. Not to Republicans. Everything is about the dollar and how much they can squeeze out of the less fortunate/environment.

I like my canards extra nardy.

Patriam1066
02-16-2019, 03:19 PM
fuck drumpftards open borders now, we are all immigrants you racist shitheads

Yes good idea man I like ugly dark short women and people who can’t speak English

NOT

Patriam1066
02-16-2019, 03:23 PM
Triiz, take a second here to admire the beauty of America's health care system. Like all systems of control, it has been carefully designed so that the serfs are placed in a local maximum where we lose if we fail to comply, but also in a global minimum where there is huge net transfer of wealth to the pharmaceutical companies (Obamacare was basically written by the health care industry). It would be easy for Americans to fix our health care system, but we don't.

What's the fix?
Why don't we do it?

Also, the cancer survival rate was one thing I googled around for a bit. This blog post (https://politicalcalculations.blogspot.com/2007/10/closer-look-at-cancer-survival-rates.html#.XGdAo5xlCV4) is an easy to read table representation of one of those 'sciency' papers. I'd guess that Britain is doing a bit better (or the US is doing worse) in the 2010s. Anyway, as I stated I am not defending our health care system. I just think that a true free market solution would blow socialized medicine out of the water. No one would be without health care, as the market would meet all price points (except people unwilling to work, of course, and I am not overly concerned there).

Why do courts keep facilitating these monopolies, not to mention the FTC, when both are controlled by Republicans? I’d argue Democrats are closer to wanting free markets at this point. Not that I support them. Immigration is the only issue that matters, but I don’t see why libertarians like yourself are so OK with monopolies that stifle competition

Teppler
02-16-2019, 03:30 PM
some things are more important than money

There's no moral argument for being 'for' illegal immigration, just a fools argument that doesn't understand logistics and practicality.

Morality and money though. I struggled with this when taking a position on Amazon in NY. By what logic is Jeff Bezos owed tax breaks and not the little guy trying to start a humble business? I've had a hard time taking a position on this one because in a practical sense it's great for tax payers and home owners and people looking for good jobs in the area. In another sense I can't reconcile while rich AF Jeff Bezos is owed a tax break and no business people that are struggling.

Patriam1066
02-16-2019, 03:33 PM
Immigration has destroyed the bottom end of the entire construction industry in the same way automation did to manufacturing. When people distill the argument down to “Mexicans only clean houses and pick vegetables” you lose a lot of the nuance and therefore ignore the complains of the vast majority of people who’s lives are negatively affected by that.

Roofers, deck builders, landscapers and other semi-skilled but non red-seal trades commonly make $20/hour in countries that have tight controls on their immigration. That has a huge effect on the overall economy

Good post bud. This type of socialist thinking is why Sanders was less brain dead than 88% of people left of center

Bazia
02-16-2019, 07:25 PM
Yes good idea man I like ugly dark short women and people who can’t speak English

NOT

drumpftards a racist, shocking

Bazia
02-16-2019, 07:28 PM
There's no moral argument for being 'for' illegal immigration, just a fools argument that doesn't understand logistics and practicality.

Morality and money though. I struggled with this when taking a position on Amazon in NY. By what logic is Jeff Bezos owed tax breaks and not the little guy trying to start a humble business? I've had a hard time taking a position on this one because in a practical sense it's great for tax payers and home owners and people looking for good jobs in the area. In another sense I can't reconcile while rich AF Jeff Bezos is owed a tax break and no business people that are struggling.

Matthew 19:24 - Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” When the disciples heard this they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”

Valuing money over morality is anti-christ like behavior sir, get with Jesus

DinoTriz2
02-16-2019, 08:36 PM
drumpftards a racist, shocking

He's not a Trump supporter.

DinoTriz2
02-16-2019, 08:37 PM
fuck drumpftards open borders now, we are all immigrants you racist shitheads

I'm not an immigrant.

I was born in the US.

DMN
02-16-2019, 08:53 PM
Matthew 19:24 - Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” When the disciples heard this they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”

Valuing money over morality is anti-christ like behavior sir, get with Jesus

But what is morality here? denying jobs to would-be employees or thumbing your nose at a rich guy?

Wonkie
02-16-2019, 08:57 PM
But what is morality here? denying jobs to would-be employees or thumbing your nose at a rich guy?

well it's the bible so it's all moral

Bazia
02-16-2019, 10:13 PM
I'm not an immigrant.

I was born in the US.

"I don't want anyone else to have the same opportunity my descendent who immigrated here had"

What a nice bunch of non hypocritical people

Bazia
02-16-2019, 10:18 PM
But what is morality here? denying jobs to would-be employees or thumbing your nose at a rich guy?

min/maxing your economy at the expense of needy people looking for refuge from a living hell would be the example here sir

feniin
02-16-2019, 10:36 PM
min/maxing your economy at the expense of needy people looking for refuge from a living hell would be the example here sir

But they're brown, poor, and don't speak English. :o

DMN
02-16-2019, 10:46 PM
min/maxing your economy at the expense of needy people looking for refuge from a living hell would be the example here sir

WTF are you babbling about?

Teppler
02-16-2019, 11:15 PM
Matthew 19:24 - Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” When the disciples heard this they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”

Valuing money over morality is anti-christ like behavior sir, get with Jesus

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dfvkph6WsAA_s_z.jpg

DinoTriz2
02-17-2019, 08:56 AM
"I don't want anyone else to have the same opportunity my descendent who immigrated here had"

What a nice bunch of non hypocritical people

I didn't say that.

I just said I'm not an immigrant.

I was born in the US.

Do you know what an immigrant is?

Patriam1066
02-17-2019, 10:17 AM
But they're brown, poor, and don't speak English. :o

They’re unattractive. It’s that simple. I welcome Hispanic women. Their men can get hit with reaper drones

Patriam1066
02-17-2019, 10:18 AM
They’re unattractive. It’s that simple. I welcome Hispanic women. Their men can get hit with reaper drones

Also, never getting socialized medicine like you guys want ( or UBI) with no restrictions on immigration

Wonkie
02-17-2019, 10:38 AM
Also, never getting socialized medicine like you guys want ( or UBI) with no restrictions on immigration

what if we abolish money?

Patriam1066
02-17-2019, 11:53 AM
what if we abolish money?

I’m persian, does not compute????????

Troxx
02-17-2019, 11:58 AM
Universal healthcare isn't a fairy tale, you donut. It works in every other Western nation. We're just too fucking stupid and let the rich tell us it won't work here.

Yeah for all the naysayers ... it's hard to say 'it will never work' when it's already working for pretty much every other modern nation that has made a legitimate effort at implementing it.

Wonkie
02-17-2019, 12:02 PM
I’m persian, does not compute????????

under my plan, UHC will cost 0 dollars

DinoTriz2
02-17-2019, 12:08 PM
If you abolish money, everything is free.

Checkmate, economists.

Tygralily
02-17-2019, 12:23 PM
I have to admit, you got me. Nice switch in the question of the thread and question in the poll. #MAGA

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
02-17-2019, 12:53 PM
They’re unattractive. It’s that simple. I welcome Hispanic women. Their men can get hit with reaper drones

And then you never get the debate you need because you come within an arms length of people like this. So now America gets stuck in the middle pining for a government that actually does something and doesn’t create inch-deep mile-wise social programs while still bringing in millions of uneducated poors.

No winning here afaic until you either confront your racism or adjust your expectations.

DinoTriz2
02-17-2019, 01:13 PM
And then you never get the debate you need because you come within an arms length of people like this. So now America gets stuck in the middle pining for a government that actually does something and doesn’t create inch-deep mile-wise social programs while still bringing in millions of uneducated poors.

No winning here afaic until you either confront your racism or adjust your expectations.

He's a troll.

He's not a Trump supporter. He's not even a conservative.

Wonkie
02-17-2019, 01:48 PM
He's a troll.

He's not a Trump supporter. He's not even a conservative.

no true sheiksman

DinoTriz2
02-17-2019, 02:03 PM
no true sheiksman

Yes, that's what a troll is.

They are not what they claim to be.

It's a parody account. He's the most obvious troll and yet he fools everyone. It's pretty hilarious.

lonmoer
02-17-2019, 02:04 PM
I keep seeing "I'm scared of anchor babies, I'm afraid of illegal immigrats" etc.. Why are conservatives such easily spooked babies?

Wonkie
02-17-2019, 02:08 PM
Yes, that's what a troll is.

They are not what they claim to be.

It's a parody account. He's the most obvious troll and yet he fools everyone. It's pretty hilarious.

relax a bit serious sam

DMN
02-17-2019, 02:16 PM
I keep seeing "I'm scared of anchor babies, I'm afraid of illegal immigrats" etc.. Why are conservatives such easily spooked babies?

I'm sure, in your psychotic state, you see a lot things. Thankfully, your psychosis is yours alone to endure. If it continues to trouble you, seek professional help.

Lune
02-17-2019, 02:33 PM
I keep seeing "I'm scared of anchor babies, I'm afraid of illegal immigrats" etc.. Why are conservatives such easily spooked babies?

I'm not a conservative, but I do not like the status quo on illegal immigration.

It's not fear. The reasons are two-fold:

1. The people of this country got together and made laws that outline how many immigrants we would like to admit into our society, and what qualifications are required. Illegal immigration disrespects those laws, and disrespects the collective will of the American people, and ultimately amounts to an unlawful invasion tantamount to a stranger barging into my locked front door and crashing on my couch.

2. Not everyone wants to live in a highly multicultural society. There are certain economic and social benefits to multiculturalism, but there are also disadvantages. I prefer my community to mainly be composed of people who have at least vaguely similar behaviors, values and language. I don't mind the difference between me and a rural conservative, for example, but if my neighbor believes that women are property, apostasy should be punishable by death, and that the government should be a theocratic conduit for sharia law, that's a net negative for me.

Anywhere where there have been high degrees of multiculturalism, it has resulted in parallel societies, rather than the melting pot that it is sold as. You can see this on any college campus where you'll have an "African American Student Union", "Asian American Club", and even in the voluntary social networks people form. They are highly self-segregated by culture and, to a lesser extent, race. We are told our entire lives that diversity is strength, but I don't believe we benefit all that much from high degrees of diversity. I think cultural homogeneity is conducive to a strong, stable society, and is arguably necessary for functioning democracy. (for example, examine all the difficulties some minor cultural and economic differences between North and South have caused the US throughout its short history).

stewe
02-17-2019, 02:59 PM
doesnt matter to me if the poll is private, i dont hide from snowflakes

Irulan
02-17-2019, 03:05 PM
I'm not a conservative, but I do not like the status quo on illegal immigration.

It's not fear. The reasons are two-fold:

1. The people of this country got together and made laws that outline how many immigrants we would like to admit into our society, and what qualifications are required. Illegal immigration disrespects those laws, and disrespects the collective will of the American people, and ultimately amounts to an unlawful invasion tantamount to a stranger barging into my locked front door and crashing on my couch.

2. Not everyone wants to live in a highly multicultural society. There are certain economic and social benefits to multiculturalism, but there are also disadvantages. I prefer my community to mainly be composed of people who have at least vaguely similar behaviors, values and language. I don't mind the difference between me and a rural conservative, for example, but if my neighbor believes that women are property, apostasy should be punishable by death, and that the government should be a theocratic conduit for sharia law, that's a net negative for me.

Anywhere where there have been high degrees of multiculturalism, it has resulted in parallel societies, rather than the melting pot that it is sold as. You can see this on any college campus where you'll have an "African American Student Union", "Asian American Club", and even in the voluntary social networks people form. They are highly self-segregated by culture and, to a lesser extent, race. We are told our entire lives that diversity is strength, but I don't believe we benefit all that much from high degrees of diversity. I think cultural homogeneity is conducive to a strong, stable society, and is arguably necessary for functioning democracy. (for example, examine all the difficulties some minor cultural and economic differences between North and South have caused the US throughout its short history).

Brilliant.

Wonkie
02-17-2019, 03:13 PM
Brilliant.

it's just fancy racism tho :confused:

DMN
02-17-2019, 03:42 PM
it's just fancy racism tho :confused:


Hammer meets nail.

DinoTriz2
02-17-2019, 04:07 PM
I keep seeing "I'm scared of anchor babies, I'm afraid of illegal immigrats" etc.. Why are conservatives such easily spooked babies?

Leftists rely on confirmation bias because their outlandish ideas cannot be defended or supported, so they're forced to justify their insanity by imagining that those around them are evil.

Sounds a lot like fascist behavior, but okay :cool:

Mblake81
02-17-2019, 04:48 PM
I keep seeing "I'm scared of anchor babies, I'm afraid of illegal immigrats" etc.. Why are conservatives such easily spooked babies?

On red this isn't an issue, we pvp for the dragons. Just a thought.

..Easy, Bro! im just trolling. Don't get mad. You will make me mad and that makes me poast a meme about you getting mad.

https://i.imgur.com/wb93Tzv.jpg

America
02-17-2019, 06:26 PM
it's just fancy racism tho :confused:

the joke is that she didnt reddit

Patriam1066
02-17-2019, 10:08 PM
it's just fancy racism tho :confused:

Opposing sharia is racism. Lol, ok

Bazia
02-17-2019, 10:13 PM
The racist is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a hypocrite, selfish, hateful, pathetic, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a racist and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

Patriam1066
02-17-2019, 10:13 PM
He's a troll.

He's not a Trump supporter. He's not even a conservative.

I have all of my teeth and have never done either intravenous drugs or opioids if that’s what you mean. Not a fan of NASCAR either. Did vote for Donald in 2016 though. In hindsight, that seems like a mistake. Illegal immigration is down at least, so he has that going for him

Patriam1066
02-17-2019, 10:15 PM
The racist is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a hypocrite, selfish, hateful, pathetic, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a racist and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

Nope I’m a racist dude, but I doubt Lune is. Hope that helps. I’m cool with invading South America and stealing their women. Look up the origin myths of Rome (not Romulus and Remus, the other one)

DMN
02-17-2019, 10:19 PM
The racist is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a hypocrite, selfish, hateful, pathetic, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a racist and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

Racist.

And plagiarist.

Madbad
02-17-2019, 10:54 PM
Look up the origin myths of Rome (not Romulus and Remus, the other one)

The Aeneid?

DinoTriz2
02-17-2019, 11:18 PM
I have all of my teeth and have never done either intravenous drugs or opioids if that’s what you mean. Not a fan of NASCAR either. Did vote for Donald in 2016 though. In hindsight, that seems like a mistake. Illegal immigration is down at least, so he has that going for him

See? He's a troll.

Mblake81
02-18-2019, 01:09 AM
See? He's a troll.

Do they have bridges in the desert?

hmm, a persian in LA. Tight jeans, fresh sneakers, Monster energy in hand and some retro sunglasses.

Delenda Est

The racist is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a hypocrite, selfish, hateful, pathetic, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a racist and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

and so is this guy.

The only person I can thank is Steve Jobs, without his post PC revolution none of this would have been possible. I hope he is doing well these days.

DinoTriz2
02-18-2019, 10:01 AM
The racist is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a hypocrite, selfish, hateful, pathetic, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a racist and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

You talk about Conservatives like a white supremacist talks about Jewish people.

You okay there, bud?

Got a little hate in your heart?

Tiax
02-20-2019, 03:15 AM
GOOD NORMAL THINKING PLUBLIC ONLY. IF ARE AMERICAN COMPUTERS WOULD REACH THE ACCELERATION TO NO MOVEMENT THEN IT REALLY WOULD BE A SUPER COMPUTER THE INFORMATION WOULD COME FROM ETERNITY AND COULD LOOK BACK THROUGH EARTH TIME A VERY LONG HISTORY OF TIME FOR ANSWERS TO PROPLEMS.

Tiax
02-20-2019, 03:16 AM
GOOD NORMAL! THINKING PLUBLIC ONLY. THE DEMOCRATIC LIBERAL TRASH MEDIA AND THEIR CORRUPT LIAR TROUBLEMAKERS FREINDS ARE LIKE THE DEVIL THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT IN JESUS CHRIST'S THEY ALL GOT A LIAR MOUTH LIKE THE DEVIL ALSO KNOWN AS SLANDER.THEY ARE FULL OF REAL MALICE DEFAMATION .

I Felt Nostalgic
02-20-2019, 06:04 AM
Donald Trump is my hero!

misterbonkers
02-20-2019, 06:24 AM
GOOD NORMAL! THINKING PLUBLIC ONLY. THE DEMOCRATIC LIBERAL TRASH MEDIA AND THEIR CORRUPT LIAR TROUBLEMAKERS FREINDS ARE LIKE THE DEVIL THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT IN JESUS CHRIST'S THEY ALL GOT A LIAR MOUTH LIKE THE DEVIL ALSO KNOWN AS SLANDER.THEY ARE FULL OF REAL MALICE DEFAMATION .

cool and normal post from a cool and normal individual

Mblake81
02-20-2019, 07:45 AM
GOOD NORMAL THINKING PLUBLIC ONLY. IF ARE AMERICAN COMPUTERS WOULD REACH THE ACCELERATION TO NO MOVEMENT THEN IT REALLY WOULD BE A SUPER COMPUTER THE INFORMATION WOULD COME FROM ETERNITY AND COULD LOOK BACK THROUGH EARTH TIME A VERY LONG HISTORY OF TIME FOR ANSWERS TO PROPLEMS.

GOOD NORMAL! THINKING PLUBLIC ONLY. THE DEMOCRATIC LIBERAL TRASH MEDIA AND THEIR CORRUPT LIAR TROUBLEMAKERS FREINDS ARE LIKE THE DEVIL THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT IN JESUS CHRIST'S THEY ALL GOT A LIAR MOUTH LIKE THE DEVIL ALSO KNOWN AS SLANDER.THEY ARE FULL OF REAL MALICE DEFAMATION .

hmm (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pEKUJ9MADs)

DinoTriz2
02-20-2019, 08:25 AM
Seek Odin

Iksar_with_a_plan
02-20-2019, 02:44 PM
Trumpt is the bad kind of good, like Nicolas Cage

NegaStoat
02-20-2019, 03:01 PM
I saw that Bernie Sanders is out collecting free money again with his claim of running for president 2020. I sincerely wonder at times how Dems think they have even a remote chance at a fair primary after the party openly admitted to rigging it for Hillary when Bernie should have won.

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=72127

https://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2016/06/08/how-californias-primary-was-rigged-against-independent-voters/

http://thebernreport.com/california-democratic-primaries-rigged/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06R-6s3NSRc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i4Z7Wcd6Nw

Dems are gonna give it to ya again, suckers.

kjs86z
02-20-2019, 03:05 PM
Liberalism is a disease.

Irulan
02-20-2019, 03:08 PM
No amount of taxes you pay for government services will save you or your children. The only thing we should be funding is the military.

DinoTriz2
02-20-2019, 03:23 PM
There was a guy on Reddit who donated his entire life savings (or maybe his kid's college fund?) to Bernie back in 2016.

Makes me feel better about investing my life savings in Bitcoin.

Knowing somewhere out there, there's a bigger sucker.

Troxx
02-20-2019, 03:28 PM
The only thing we should be funding is the military.

Roads?

DinoTriz2
02-20-2019, 03:30 PM
Roads?

Who will make them?

Damn governments and their road-making secrets!

Artaenc
02-20-2019, 04:14 PM
Do they have bridges in the desert?

hmm, a persian in LA. Tight jeans, fresh sneakers, Monster energy in hand and some retro sunglasses.

Delenda Est



and so is this guy.

The only person I can thank is Steve Jobs, without his post PC revolution none of this would have been possible. I hope he is doing well these days.Sadly he is not doing well at all, he's dead...

America
02-20-2019, 04:20 PM
Roman legions were expert builders. Most of old Julie's really insane dunks had to do with midnight building projects. Building walls and forts around enemy encampments before they could process or respond. Check out the Battle of Alesia. They could and did carve roads on the move.

Iksar_with_a_plan
02-20-2019, 04:21 PM
Trumpt is the bad kind of good, like Nicolas Cage

Wait, or is he the good kind of bad?

DinoTriz2
02-20-2019, 04:29 PM
Roman legions were expert builders. Most of old Julie's really insane dunks had to do with midnight building projects. Building walls and forts around enemy encampments before they could process or respond. Check out the Battle of Alesia. They could and did carve roads on the move.

So that's where the Civilization bonus comes from...

Wonkie
02-20-2019, 05:01 PM
Who will make them?

Damn governments and their road-making secrets!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System

Mblake81
02-20-2019, 05:04 PM
Sadly he is not doing well at all, he's dead...

Pras Steve Jobs! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfJ3QxJYsw8)

Note: This rustle goes back before 2010 so miss with current events, fay gates!

The rustle began in 2008, when my bro dawg co-worker showed me his fly ho's on cellphone twitter.

The change was inevitable, digital distribution like STEAM were as well.
If it wasn't Steve Jobs or Gabe N. it was going to be someone..
someone is going to be hitting that so why not them?

Enter youtube, Netflix and a myriad of other rules and regulations.

You only thought you could escape :p

"bro, come on dawg, chill here wid us and be happy. Don't worry yourself wid goin over there. Besides, we will just follow you, give it a few years"

DinoTriz2
02-20-2019, 05:13 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Highway_System

A Republican too.

Man, god bless the Republicans for inventing roads.

Wonkie
02-20-2019, 05:23 PM
A Republican too.

Man, god bless the Republicans for inventing roads.

i like ike. his tax policy was real good.

DinoTriz2
02-20-2019, 05:25 PM
i like ike. his tax policy was real good.

He also warned people about the military industrial complex.

Back when conservative politicians put America before industry

Lune
02-20-2019, 06:15 PM
The Republican party before Reagan was actually reasonable and more than just a cancer.

Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.

kjs86z
02-21-2019, 10:19 AM
Teddy and Dwight 2020

America
02-21-2019, 11:18 AM
if roads are outlawed only outlwas will have roads

Mblake81
02-21-2019, 11:40 AM
if roads are outlawed only outlwas will have roads

"They’re bringing outlaws. And some, I assume, have good roads.”

BallzDeep
02-21-2019, 03:12 PM
Read up on the average cost of a rural obese opiate-addicted midwestern trump-supporting redneck that California New York and Texas have to pay for

I know this is old but couldn't be passed up. Especially since I don't live on these forms like some of you.

I can't stand reading your posts. You are now projecting and assuming Trump supporters fall under this category and not any liberal. Both do. You are generalizing something that actually falls the other way.

Sad thing is, we actually care more than the liberal does. What if I told you the only way to help someone is help themselves? Do you believe that could be true or do you jump to the retort that I just don't believe in helping people.

BTW for your basis - The opiate addicted overweight person is typically a liberal. Since those are fulfilling of liberal values and what their entire promotion is right now. Be who you are, drugs are okay, help the homeless, love your body, etc. Republican point of view is get off your ass, stop trying to change society to fit you, change your view to fit society since you afterall, live in society.

See California liberal cities for evidence.

Wonkie
02-21-2019, 03:18 PM
I know this is old but couldn't be passed up. Especially since I don't live on these forms like some of you.

I can't stand reading your posts. You are now projecting and assuming Trump supporters fall under this category and not any liberal. Both do. You are generalizing something that actually falls the other way.

Sad thing is, we actually care more than the liberal does. What if I told you the only way to help someone is help themselves? Do you believe that could be true or do you jump to the retort that I just don't believe in helping people.

BTW for your basis - The opiate addicted overweight person is typically a liberal. Since those are fulfilling of liberal values and what their entire promotion is right now. Be who you are, drugs are okay, help the homeless, love your body, etc. Republican point of view is get off your ass, stop trying to change society to fit you, change your view to fit society since you afterall, live in society.

See California liberal cities for evidence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZe7z73jKj8

America
02-21-2019, 03:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZe7z73jKj8

why do u have an encyclopedic knowldge of this garbo

Wonkie
02-21-2019, 03:27 PM
why do u have an encyclopedic knowldge of this garbo

uguuuuuuuuu

America
02-21-2019, 05:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZe7z73jKj8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slVqNISUAWY

DinoTriz2
02-21-2019, 05:51 PM
He's got like....30 goddamn dicks

icedwards
02-21-2019, 05:54 PM
He also bangs strippers playboy bunnies and models and I heard he has an 11 inch dick that still gets rock hard

https://i.imgur.com/6kzr1HT.png

America
02-21-2019, 06:15 PM
I'll be voting for him again because of the last page of this thread

LazyHydras
02-21-2019, 07:14 PM
Remember when the pundits were saying that Trump was crazy for saying that 3% growth was coming?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

DinoTriz2
02-21-2019, 07:42 PM
Weren't we all supposed to be in concentration camps by now, too?

DinoTriz2
02-21-2019, 07:43 PM
This is what mortifying is to me (https://youtu.be/Ze6_HtI-1ko)

KansasComrade
02-21-2019, 09:23 PM
Oh fuck I misvoted.

Bardp1999
02-21-2019, 10:34 PM
I keep finding myself entranced by Dino's signature.

Mblake81
02-21-2019, 11:43 PM
I keep finding myself entranced by Dino's signature.

https://i.imgur.com/SefA1N8.gif

GnomeCaptain
02-22-2019, 12:35 AM
Trump is easily the best President since TR.

It's refreshing to have a President that works for the benefit of the American people, instead of ultra-rich globalists.

It's refreshing to have a President that doesn't promote implicitly promote terrorism against White people.

It's refreshing to have a President that has enacted the policies on which he ran.

Anyone that has read President Trump's books shouldn't be surprised he's an amazing President. His philosophy has been there for all to see for a long time.

The dollar is stronger than ever, unemployment lower than any time since the Great Depression, highest job force numbers ever, bad trade deals are being replaced, the border is being secured, and domestic American manufacturing is revitalized and growing better than it has in decades.

And more foreign policy wins than any President for many decades.

The PRC understands it can't push him around, and what other President has made even a shred of progress with North Korea?

Trump got the Korean leaders to meet together (a first) and met with the leader of N. Korea (another first).

And, as if more was needed, the Opportunity Zone initiative is one of the most brilliant in history and has the potential to lift millions more out of poverty. Meanwhile, the recently added section 199a provision in the tax code for small business owners will be a great boon to American entrepreneurs and workers.

Only the people who can't or won't think for themselves, and instead let mass media and ultra-rich globalists do all their thinking for them, can continue to mindlessly rail against our great President.

2020 RE-ELECTION, HERE WE COME!

Wonkie
02-22-2019, 12:53 AM
The PRC understands it can't push him around, and what other President has made even a shred of progress with North Korea?

Trump got the Korean leaders to meet together (a first) and met with the leader of N. Korea (another first).

Only the people who can't or won't think for themselves, and instead let mass media and ultra-rich globalists do all their thinking for them, can continue to mindlessly rail against our great President.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Policy

:rolleyes:

feniin
02-22-2019, 11:03 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Policy

:rolleyes:

Don't let facts get in the way of copy pasta propaganda

DinoTriz2
02-22-2019, 11:30 AM
Don't let facts get in the way of copy pasta propaganda

He's correct about the US President and North Korean leader though.

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
02-22-2019, 12:25 PM
Trump is easily the best President since TR.

It's refreshing to have a President that works for the benefit of the American people, instead of ultra-rich globalists.

It's refreshing to have a President that doesn't promote implicitly promote terrorism against White people.

It's refreshing to have a President that has enacted the policies on which he ran.

Anyone that has read President Trump's books shouldn't be surprised he's an amazing President. His philosophy has been there for all to see for a long time.

The dollar is stronger than ever, unemployment lower than any time since the Great Depression, highest job force numbers ever, bad trade deals are being replaced, the border is being secured, and domestic American manufacturing is revitalized and growing better than it has in decades.

And more foreign policy wins than any President for many decades.

The PRC understands it can't push him around, and what other President has made even a shred of progress with North Korea?

Trump got the Korean leaders to meet together (a first) and met with the leader of N. Korea (another first).

And, as if more was needed, the Opportunity Zone initiative is one of the most brilliant in history and has the potential to lift millions more out of poverty. Meanwhile, the recently added section 199a provision in the tax code for small business owners will be a great boon to American entrepreneurs and workers.

Only the people who can't or won't think for themselves, and instead let mass media and ultra-rich globalists do all their thinking for them, can continue to mindlessly rail against our great President.

2020 RE-ELECTION, HERE WE COME!

Absolute delusion. My god at least learn how to interpret the facts and save yourself some embarrassment.

Almost all growth occurring to stock value with almost no growth in wages meaning almost ALL of the growth occurs for the ultra rich. Meager changes to unemployment against the Obama administration all while the economy is being force fed billions far in excess of any previous stimulus. All of which is done at a time of economic growth which sets the economy up for a massive fall. Enjoy the ride while it lasts. The American economy is now running on candy corn and monster energy drinks.

Unfunded tax cuts that are set to expire, further draining wealth from the middle class while offering no appreciable benefit.

Almost no foreign policy wins including substantial losses in trade agreements with the richest nations on the planet. Antagonism and isolationism for developing nations resulting in reduced chance of being a part of their transition to modern economies.

No substantiative movement at all with NK other than a “summit” in which, as they always have, the NK leaders backed out (happens to almost every administration like this).

Trump might come away with looking good but only because:

- most Long term effective policies have been enacted at a state level in opposition to his national policies. Almost every blue state is going to pull, and continue to pull further ahead than their red counterparts.
- fewer people now believe America is the best place to immigrate and so it’s at multi-year lows.
- western nations have been closer and are coalescing around a more clear definition of world power.

America has been at the center of world power for 80 years now and has overseen the greatest expansion of wealth and peace the world has ever known during that time. Almost every one of trumps policies are in opposition to how you got to where you are now. How anyone can get behind him aside from a few minor business changes is beyond me.

Mblake81
02-22-2019, 12:33 PM
Absolute delusion. My god at least learn how to interpret the facts and save yourself some embarrassment.

Almost all growth occurring to stock value with almost no growth in wages meaning almost ALL of the growth occurs for the ultra rich.

Yeah, about that..

Money can buy the services of some desperate people to do desperate things. It was easier to give people like Buffet extra mattress stuffing than deal with the consequences, having no real financial means to lawyerquest or... something else. Surely, this server of all places, can understand the value of path of least resistance consider it runs the raid scene and many are in compliance.

Have a nice day,
Mblake81

Wonkie
02-22-2019, 12:56 PM
No substantiative movement at all with NK other than a “summit” in which, as they always have, the NK leaders backed out (happens to almost every administration like this).



NK policy is, was, and remains disarmament only for US withdrawal. It was nice to see Trump make a friend though.

DMN
02-22-2019, 01:02 PM
Absolute delusion. .

That would make a good title for your shitpost.

BallzDeep
02-22-2019, 06:22 PM
Absolute delusion. My god at least learn how to interpret the facts and save yourself some embarrassment.

Almost all growth occurring to stock value with almost no growth in wages meaning almost ALL of the growth occurs for the ultra rich. Meager changes to unemployment against the Obama administration all while the economy is being force fed billions far in excess of any previous stimulus. All of which is done at a time of economic growth which sets the economy up for a massive fall. Enjoy the ride while it lasts. The American economy is now running on candy corn and monster energy drinks.

Unfunded tax cuts that are set to expire, further draining wealth from the middle class while offering no appreciable benefit.

Almost no foreign policy wins including substantial losses in trade agreements with the richest nations on the planet. Antagonism and isolationism for developing nations resulting in reduced chance of being a part of their transition to modern economies.

No substantiative movement at all with NK other than a “summit” in which, as they always have, the NK leaders backed out (happens to almost every administration like this).

Trump might come away with looking good but only because:

- most Long term effective policies have been enacted at a state level in opposition to his national policies. Almost every blue state is going to pull, and continue to pull further ahead than their red counterparts.
- fewer people now believe America is the best place to immigrate and so it’s at multi-year lows.
- western nations have been closer and are coalescing around a more clear definition of world power.

America has been at the center of world power for 80 years now and has overseen the greatest expansion of wealth and peace the world has ever known during that time. Almost every one of trumps policies are in opposition to how you got to where you are now. How anyone can get behind him aside from a few minor business changes is beyond me.

Save yourself some embarrassment and understand economics. America is the power house that it is due to the world being capitalist. Since the world is capitalist and we protect free market trade and have less regulation, private sectors can thrive. Private sectors innovative and advance technology. The middle class has shrunk due to states like California (leftist). There was more economic spending under the Obama campaign than the Trump campaign by far.

Based on your negative outlook on everything, it sounds like you want America to fail. You don't believe in a centralized goal of harder work, free trade market that has caused America to thrive or acknowledged the private sector has helped build this country from the ground up. When you leave the oppressed, victim mindset behind, Trump isn't all that bad. Rhetoric, yes, actions, no.

To say America isn't the best place to immigrate is stupid. We have freedom of speech, freedom of trade, freedom of opportunity. You can be a white nationalist in America or you can be a black man from Uganda. How many countries in the world accept that with an easier process for immigration, lower corporate tax rates and allow freedom of speech? Not many, if any at all.

The key here is work ethic. If you don't have the work or strive to be the best in America and want to play a victim or social card, it won't work here anymore. If you are upset about Trumps social policies based on economic standing or racial/gender status, there isn't a single law out there inhibiting someone from being capable of their goal. Delusional.

America
02-22-2019, 06:25 PM
Save yourself some embarrassment and understand economics. America is the power house that it is due to the world being capitalist. Since the world is capitalist and we protect free market trade and have less regulation, private sectors can thrive. Private sectors innovative and advance technology. The middle class has shrunk due to states like California (leftist). There was more economic spending under the Obama campaign than the Trump campaign by far.

Based on your negative outlook on everything, it sounds like you want America to fail. You don't believe in a centralized goal of harder work, free trade market that has caused America to thrive or acknowledged the private sector has helped build this country from the ground up. When you leave the oppressed, victim mindset behind, Trump isn't all that bad. Rhetoric, yes, actions, no.

To say America isn't the best place to immigrate is stupid. We have freedom of speech, freedom of trade, freedom of opportunity. You can be a white nationalist in America or you can be a black man from Uganda. How many countries in the world accept that with an easier process for immigration, lower corporate tax rates and allow freedom of speech? Not many, if any at all.

The key here is work ethic. If you don't have the work or strive to be the best in America and want to play a victim or social card, it won't work here anymore. If you are upset about Trumps social policies based on economic standing or racial/gender status, there isn't a single law out there inhibiting someone from being capable of their goal. Delusional.

nice post i like how it was just the right size for 1 pagedown to skip

BallzDeep
02-22-2019, 06:26 PM
nice post i like how it was just the right size for 1 pagedown to skip

Thanks for your contribution to society.

BallzDeep
02-22-2019, 06:34 PM
nice post i like how it was just the right size for 1 pagedown to skip

I also don't even need to comment on some of your posts - calling someone 4/10 IQ while probably deeming yourself 10/10 while playing 8 hours of video games a day and contributing 0 of that 10 out of 10 intellect to society outside of forums and games. Not even negating the fact you were born as a certain gender but still haven't figured that out mentally. Physically you were already defined, mentally you are not.

Not digging at you there but I personally believe Trans is a mental illness that people suffer from and need help. I'm cool with you getting help but if you have a smug 10/10 intellect attitude and post heavy on the forums all day, we aren't going to like each other, trans or not.

America
02-22-2019, 06:35 PM
I also don't even need to comment on some of your posts - calling someone 4/10 IQ while probably deeming yourself 10/10 while playing 8 hours of video games a day and contributing 0 of that 10 out of 10 intellect to society outside of forums and games. Not even negating the fact you were born as a certain gender but still haven't figured that out mentally. Physically you were already defined, mentally you are not.

Not digging at you there but I personally believe Trans is a mental illness that people suffer from and need help. I'm cool with you getting help but if you have a smug 10/10 intellect attitude and post heavy on the forums all day, we aren't going to like each other, trans or not.

I was calling that guy 4/10 in looks you goober. stopped reading there

America
02-22-2019, 06:38 PM
Maskedmelon will you please tell this goober you think I am very smart and contribute to society.

Sonderbeast
02-22-2019, 06:38 PM
This thread is a great contribution to Humankind, the internet archaeologists of 3203 will look back on this with great value

Sonderbeast
02-22-2019, 06:39 PM
That would make a good title for your shitpost.

shiptoast

DinoTriz2
02-22-2019, 06:53 PM
Einstein actually had an IQ of 9/10.

Many people don't know that.

maskedmelon
02-22-2019, 07:11 PM
Re: America

America is very smart.

Signed: Melonious of these Forums

Wonkie
02-23-2019, 01:32 AM
https://i.imgur.com/SbC37uI.jpg

Skuc
02-23-2019, 10:04 PM
Anyone who backs a President who lies constantly (there are over/under boards for it for gambling, check it), is overtly sexist, racist and creepy, breaks the law openly and is under investigation for a zillion crimes...should not be claiming to know what America is, much less what to do with it.

He's unstable, unintelligent and uncool. But as long as he lets you blame others for your own mediocrity, yer fine with it. Got it.

Scientists give us 12 years to get climate change under control, while that deflated ballbag says, "Im too smart to believe in climate change." lol gtfo

Ever notice how leftists want to educate, but the (Alt-right fascists) Trump supporters only insult and preach violence? Yeah we've been doing this for centuries bucko, you need to learen your place, you have no chance winning this one.

https://youtu.be/a_yfnQPaD_E

Skuc
02-23-2019, 10:08 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4c/09/db/4c09db0c5038fd1b97810b6dc3b23ba0.gif

Skuc
02-23-2019, 10:10 PM
This is informative. Not Safe For babymen...

https://youtu.be/eUrR0eFsWvI

DMN
02-23-2019, 10:49 PM
orange man bad. I be smart.

Mblake81
02-23-2019, 11:39 PM
Anyone who backs a President who lies constantly (there are over/under boards for it for gambling, check it), is overtly sexist, racist and creepy, breaks the law openly and is under investigation for a zillion crimes...should not be claiming to know what America is, much less what to do with it.

He's unstable, unintelligent and uncool. But as long as he lets you blame others for your own mediocrity, yer fine with it. Got it.

Scientists give us 12 years to get climate change under control, while that deflated ballbag says, "Im too smart to believe in climate change." lol gtfo

Ever notice how leftists want to educate, but the (Alt-right fascists) Trump supporters only insult and preach violence? Yeah we've been doing this for centuries bucko, you need to learen your place, you have no chance winning this one.

You do excellent 4chan roleplay.

https://i.imgur.com/BhbswqF.png?1

Mblake81
02-23-2019, 11:44 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4c/09/db/4c09db0c5038fd1b97810b6dc3b23ba0.gif

here, let me fix this for you since english isn't your first language.

https://i.imgur.com/wmqQ45K.gif

excellent use of violence by the way. I see hitchcock movies have finally made it to your country.

Mblake81
02-23-2019, 11:51 PM
This is informative. Not Safe For babymen...

https://youtu.be/eUrR0eFsWvI

🖕 yee haw, bubba! (https://youtu.be/aGLmY_VFJik?t=6) 🖕

Skuc
02-24-2019, 04:41 AM
More! more! You can do better!

Magifyre
02-24-2019, 05:10 AM
The results of this poll are not at all surprising given the average intelligence of the players on this server.

Mblake81
02-24-2019, 09:27 AM
More! more! You can do better!

How do you say "go eat a dick!" in your native tongue?

Skuc
02-24-2019, 10:33 AM
Bleh come on, put your back into it!

Skuc
02-24-2019, 10:35 AM
Thought you guys were proud and shit.

Mblake81
02-24-2019, 11:07 AM
How do you say "go eat a dick!" in your native tongue?

LazyHydras
02-24-2019, 03:18 PM
Anyone who backs a President who lies constantly (there are over/under boards for it for gambling, check it), is overtly sexist, racist and creepy, breaks the law openly and is under investigation for a zillion crimes...should not be claiming to know what America is, much less what to do with it.

He's unstable, unintelligent and uncool. But as long as he lets you blame others for your own mediocrity, yer fine with it. Got it.

Scientists give us 12 years to get climate change under control, while that deflated ballbag says, "Im too smart to believe in climate change." lol gtfo

Ever notice how leftists want to educate, but the (Alt-right fascists) Trump supporters only insult and preach violence? Yeah we've been doing this for centuries bucko, you need to learen your place, you have no chance winning this one.

https://youtu.be/a_yfnQPaD_E

"educate" = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4BNkRNN-WE ???

Mblake81
02-24-2019, 04:24 PM
I don't believe it. The timing.

roks1
02-24-2019, 04:34 PM
elected officials huh. haha alright well see ya later.

Mblake81
02-24-2019, 04:34 PM
I think its one of those topsy turvy things in response to Jussie. Guy got manhandled and his face blasted, goes to talk show about it.

Cosmopolitan.

Mblake81
02-24-2019, 04:41 PM
https://i.imgur.com/i6SptP6.png

Mblake81
02-24-2019, 04:55 PM
This message is hidden because roks1 is on your ignore list.

*clicks off ignore* ... I shouldn't ignore members. I will neg you instead.

https://i.imgur.com/kZ6mkEr.gif

Skuc
02-24-2019, 06:04 PM
Perfect. More! More! I'm almost there, don't stop!

Skuc
02-24-2019, 06:05 PM
https://goo.gl/images/XKxvpG

Skuc
02-24-2019, 06:07 PM
https://goo.gl/images/vNFFCw

Skuc
02-24-2019, 06:18 PM
You starting to get a sense of how much respect I have for this thread yet?

My native language is Texan and we say, "Boy, you're about halfway to a homo."

Report me, scared little boot-licker you are.

FOX NEWS LOL THRALL

And in before ban: Oh yeah, good calling me on the violence (guillotines are actually ironic humor to an anarchist, *usually*) but you forgot the Ad hominem attacks, those are hypocritical too.

But see...this is p99 RnF, a "your mom's basement" level debating platform and you will never do anything but bitch, until you grow out of this phase. (Or just grow up, potato / potahto.) Pot shots at infant Nazis and I enjoyed every second. Toodles!

Enter at your own risk, baby boy.

fortior
02-24-2019, 06:19 PM
trump dumb lmao

Mblake81
02-24-2019, 10:26 PM
Perfect. More! More! I'm almost there, don't stop!

https://i.imgur.com/Hasmjxp.gif

https://goo.gl/images/XKxvpG


https://goo.gl/images/vNFFCw

learn to post, queef.

"Boy, you're about halfway to a homo."

I am posting right next to one.

I enjoyed every second. Toodles!

Enter at your own risk, baby boy.

fay gate.

Mblake81
02-25-2019, 10:01 AM
Yeah, about that..

Money can buy the services of some desperate people to do desperate things. It was easier to give people like Buffet extra mattress stuffing than deal with the consequences, having no real financial means to lawyerquest or... something else. Surely, this server of all places, can understand the value of path of least resistance consider it runs the raid scene and many are in compliance.

Have a nice day,
Mblake81

Warren Buffett said Monday he and the wealthy people are not paying enough when it comes to taxes.

"The wealthy are definitely undertaxed relative to the general population," Buffett told CNBC's Becky Quick on "Squawk Box." "As we get more specialized, the rich will get richer. The question is: How do you take care of a guy who is a wonderful citizen whose father died in Normandy and just doesn't have market skills? I think the income tax credit is the best way to address that."

"That probably means more taxes for guys like me, and I'm fine with it," he said.

They also come as some lawmakers push for higher taxes on the wealthy, especially Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. Ocasio-Cortez proposed recently a 70 percent marginal tax on incomes over $10 million in an effort to bridge the growing wealth gap between the rich and the poor.

Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates — who is also a close friend of Buffett's — said earlier this month that he supports more "progressive" taxes on this rich, but noted that plans like Ocasio-Cortez's are missing the point. "They have income that just is the value of their stock, which if they don't sell it, it doesn't show up as income at all, or if it shows up, it shows over in the capital gains side. So the ability of hedge fund people, various people — they aren't paying that ordinary income rate," he said.

https://i.imgur.com/RC7JZrT.jpg?1

Tiax
03-01-2019, 02:33 PM
GOOD NORMAL THINKING PLUBLIC ONLY. REMEMBER IT ONLY TAKES ONE LIE TO MAKE YOU A LIAR THAT MICHAEL GUY ON TV IN WASHINGTON SAID HE LIED. THEN IS A LIAR YOU CAN'T TRUST LIARS CHEATERS IF YOU LIE OR CHEAT A YOUR JOB THEN YOU WOULD LIE TO YOUR OWN FAMILY AND WOULD CHEAT ON YOUR WIVE.

Madbad
03-01-2019, 02:37 PM
I'm glad I live in a country where you people are allowed to vote

maskedmelon
03-01-2019, 02:41 PM
I'm glad I live in a country where you people are allowed to vote

lol I read this kid-bite and almost shot pasta sauce out my nose 😂

maskedmelon
03-01-2019, 02:42 PM
mid-bite*

Madbad
03-01-2019, 03:03 PM
Kid-bite good too doe

aaezil
03-01-2019, 03:11 PM
Felons cant vote - 75% of people commenting here can’t vote

DinoTriz2
03-01-2019, 03:20 PM
I got arrested for touchin butts

I can still vote

Madbad
03-02-2019, 01:18 AM
I got arrested for touchin butts

This checks out

DinoTriz2
03-02-2019, 08:17 AM
Touchin butts and kissin nuts

Rimitto
03-02-2019, 03:06 PM
The last generation gave us some lazy ass writing for this season of our countries plot.
I'm personally glad we went off script.:rolleyes: