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soup
03-30-2011, 07:20 PM
I mean, I don't expect many people to agree with me, but that's just how I see it.

Kuriin
03-30-2011, 07:21 PM
And if it's a PUG raid I'd have no problem with everyone rolling on the CoF, even if I was the only melee in the raid. Greedy would be me saying "I'm the only melee, give it to me!" when selling that item could pretty much keep someone set on the server for the rest of their time here.

Guild run raids != PUGs. I guess I come from a different environment (server) where people actually NBG'd on pug raids and pug groups.

But, why do I get the feeling that maybe you would feel upset IF you were the only melee and you got screwed over a CoF going to a caster?


(PS Cars: was talking in general. :-)

Daldolma
03-30-2011, 07:22 PM
IMO, if you claim an item NBG, you should pay everyone else in the group for their roll. For example, if it's GEBs, they're worth 6k. Assuming a full group, everyone's roll is worth 1k. You claim NBG, pay 1k to every group member, and keep the boots. Fine, everyone's happy (enough).

If you don't want to buy out everyone else's roll, that's fine, too. But then you can roll greed on it like everyone else. It's crap that a class that can't use any loot from a specific camp is essentially donating their time to the classes that have class-specific loot drop at that camp.

If it's a 500 plat shitty item and happens to be an upgrade, fine -- just take it. But if it's something worth multiple thousands of plat, everyone needs it.

Kuriin
03-30-2011, 07:22 PM
Well, I mean, it IS your view. I'm just going to disagree with it. :p I'm not going to insult anyone or something.

Cars
03-30-2011, 07:24 PM
(PS Cars: was talking in general. :-)

Thanks for the C!

Zigfreed
03-30-2011, 07:26 PM
on vztz i use to just give tstaffs and oggok cleavers away to people who could use them.... true story i will admit i traded a few but a majority i handed out

A lotta truth there. Vz/Tz folks were pretty cool about giving stuff to their lessers. I think it's because killing folks who can put up a bit of a fight is more fun than riskless slaughter although they'll mock you either way! :P

Walk
03-30-2011, 07:26 PM
all i see is a buncha lootwhores/gold-diggers trying to justify why they need a item they cant even equip

soup
03-30-2011, 07:36 PM
Guild run raids != PUGs. I guess I come from a different environment (server) where people actually NBG'd on pug raids and pug groups.

But, why do I get the feeling that maybe you would feel upset IF you were the only melee and you got screwed over a CoF going to a caster?


(PS Cars: was talking in general. :-)

If I get to roll on shit I could sell but can't use, I would have no problem getting "screwed" out of a CoF, fair is fair.

Obviously I would be disappointed at not winning it, but that's not to say I think something so valuable that can totally open up a lot of possibilities to people should just go to me because I happen to be the only melee present out of a dozen or two people. If you're running with a guild and the same people all the time, then my sentiment changes a bit. I'll scratch your back today, you scratch mine tomorrow.

I scratch your back today, you disappear to never be seen again doesn't sound as appealing (which isn't to say I have a problem with the traditional NBG concept, just think it's somewhat ironic that "I can use it you can't so I get it automatically!" isn't considered greedy, even though anyone else can sell it and gear themselves up)

I also prefer the "greed" system since it gets rid of the possibility of people going "Uhh, yeah, I need it, hand it over!" then selling it in EC a few days later.

naez
03-30-2011, 07:37 PM
thats why you sell things you need-ninja on an alt

-_- nubs

soup
03-30-2011, 07:39 PM
all i see is a buncha lootwhores/gold-diggers trying to justify why they need a item they cant even equip

You must be talking to me?

Let's just say that label you try to pin on me isn't exactly fitting, to say the least, lol

Walk
03-30-2011, 07:42 PM
dont worry bro i wasnt directing that at you personally if i quoted u then u know i was trying to play some basketball with you but read the whole thread post by post and u will see why lootwhore and gold-diggers came to mind

i didnt quote but i was directing this twards soup

Harrison
03-30-2011, 07:47 PM
Hacking is okay.

Greedwhoring loot isn't.

lulz?

Walk
03-30-2011, 07:49 PM
Hacking is okay.

Greedwhoring loot isn't.

lulz?

SS, Fraps or logs of me hacking or stfu brah i clean my whistle with rubbing alcohol daily

Harrison
03-30-2011, 07:50 PM
SS, Fraps or logs of me hacking or stfu brah i clean my whistle with rubbing alcohol daily

You guys all spew this idiocy, and then proof is posted and your response is, "We all did it, no big deal. There's no real advantage to MQ/SEQ anyways bro."

naez
03-30-2011, 07:50 PM
Just ignore him he has LDS

naez
03-30-2011, 07:50 PM
(little dick syndrome)

naez
03-30-2011, 07:51 PM
my pvpenis is gigantic

Walk
03-30-2011, 07:52 PM
ppl's champ has never run 3rd party program and has only been acused of it because how well he plays

Ronas
03-30-2011, 08:50 PM
lol, cant believe you caved. Specially to dumb asses that rand 100 100, then 10mins later worked out wtf and rand properly outside of group and coming to forum to cry about it. I dont know about everyone else but i dont cater to dumb fux.

soup
03-30-2011, 09:15 PM
lol, cant believe you caved. Specially to dumb asses that rand 100 100, then 10mins later worked out wtf and rand properly outside of group and coming to forum to cry about it. I dont know about everyone else but i dont cater to dumb fux.

You sound like a moron.

just sayin

naez
03-30-2011, 09:22 PM
http://www.notacult.com/Geandily/textured.jpg

Ronas
03-30-2011, 11:11 PM
You sound like a moron.

just sayin

Reading through some of your previous post, you seem to be under the same label too. Can we be friends now?

Pico
03-30-2011, 11:39 PM
Just ignore him he has LDS

thought you were calling him a mormon

Kuriin
03-31-2011, 12:08 AM
thought you were calling him a mormon

kakaka thought the same.

Macken
04-02-2011, 06:11 AM
This thread is depressing, pointless and a waste of time.

A 28 page cryfest over an issue that could have been solved in 60 seconds, if you could just figure a way to get your training wheels off.

abegedun
04-04-2011, 04:20 AM
rofl you dumb stupid retarded n00bs :-)

plzuninstalleverquestyoupatheticfreaks..

Gorgetrapper
04-04-2011, 05:46 AM
rofl you dumb stupid retarded n00bs :-)

plzuninstalleverquestyoupatheticfreaks..

plzunistallyourlifeyoupatheticfaggot

jilena
04-04-2011, 10:03 PM
Everyone needs every sellable item equally.

The end.