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Bigmoneybabybaby
04-12-2018, 06:37 PM
Nice. Welcome Mr. 6 post internet badass.

Thanks, nice to meet you Mr 199 post internet super bad ass.

Swiftyfist
04-13-2018, 01:55 AM
Im loosing faith in this place! Its turning oddly different than what i thought it used to be. Its sad days when the people who support the server the most cant complete there own characters epics "because suspended" We cant kill garzicor with more than 6 people because raid suspended... The sad truth is the rules need to change, this is bullshit all around. Treating some of your most loyal players like dirt...lets see how long that is gonna last...i already feel like this place is ruined! I'll maybe log back on in 50 days. probably not. the magic is gone due to treating the core player base like shit with these retarded 10+ day rules and shit.fuck off

indiscriminate_hater
04-13-2018, 02:24 AM
can I have ur stuff

scaura
04-13-2018, 02:52 AM
garzicor had been done with 5 ppl , dont get upset about it really,

HalasHermit
04-13-2018, 03:57 AM
Did Europa ask Awakened to drop vaniki?

I rewatched the submitted fraps for a sanity check, Europa was silent in zone wide channels and in tells till the 7th man zone in at 17%, who didn't even show up on encounter log as per staff inquiry.

So take that for what you will.

Blind hate wins again.

Genevensis
04-13-2018, 04:57 AM
Again, no bans if no rules broken. Then up to you to hate snitches!

Kesselring
04-13-2018, 07:11 AM
garzicor had been done with 5 ppl , dont get upset about it really,

The fight us just plain easier with less really. Just like talendor.

Rygar
04-13-2018, 07:26 AM
Im loosing faith in this place! Its turning oddly different than what i thought it used to be. Its sad days when the people who support the server the most cant complete there own characters epics "because suspended" We cant kill garzicor with more than 6 people because raid suspended... The sad truth is the rules need to change, this is bullshit all around. Treating some of your most loyal players like dirt...lets see how long that is gonna last...i already feel like this place is ruined! I'll maybe log back on in 50 days. probably not. the magic is gone due to treating the core player base like shit with these retarded 10+ day rules and shit.fuck off

Contrary to popular belief, the raiding community is not the core of P99. If so you would see no more than like 300 online. The raiding community are amongst the most entitled players, thinking cause they down big targets the world revolves around them and that they can trash staff due to their status.

Take a dose of humble pie my man.

Skew
04-13-2018, 09:09 AM
Again, no bans if no rules broken. Then up to you to hate snitches!

I thought Sirken wanted guilds to work things out first before going to staff.
Generally you ask the mob be dropped or expect a concession (in this case loot rights to the sapper) and no petition wasting staffs time need be sent.
Or you can just bitch it up if youre a sissy i guess.
Europa got the good dice when it comes to saves-v-staff.

MalystryxVoF
04-13-2018, 09:12 AM
We asked. Answer was NO.

Ruhtar
04-13-2018, 09:16 AM
Im loosing faith in this place! Its turning oddly different than what i thought it used to be. Its sad days when the people who support the server the most cant complete there own characters epics "because suspended" We cant kill garzicor with more than 6 people because raid suspended... The sad truth is the rules need to change, this is bullshit all around. Treating some of your most loyal players like dirt...lets see how long that is gonna last...i already feel like this place is ruined! I'll maybe log back on in 50 days. probably not. the magic is gone due to treating the core player base like shit with these retarded 10+ day rules and shit.fuck off

What is your definition of support and loyalty? Lol. Have you donated thousands of dollars to the project and been a tester since the original beta of P99? Does the loyalty come from not cheating on P99 with the likes of TLP servers?

This server and staff owes you nothing. They put the time and money into this server over the years to keep it running for all types of players that like Everquest. The raiding rules that got your guild banned is from years of stupidity from raiders who find ways around the rules in place, so it doesn't matter what they are. If you can't follow the rules, you'll get suspended or banned.

Instead of pointing your finger every which way, try pointing it at your leadership who got you in this scenario.

Culkasi
04-13-2018, 09:29 AM
I see that you can tell what I was getting at.

Europa shouldn't have submitted a petition for stalling unless they asked for it to be dropped or tried to pull it off with no success. There is nothing against kiting a mob around unless someone else asks you to drop it and you deny them.

Which is the same, by the way, for pre-slowing Klandi. Not a problem whatsoever until another guild is there in force and asks you to drop it. You have to either pull it in and attempt it right then or drop agro.

Just another case of Europa petitioning out of spite when there was no need.

We asked. Answer was NO.

Rygar
04-13-2018, 09:33 AM
Pretty sad viewpoint. I'm sorry you feel this way. Your claim of trashing staff is just rude and inaccurate. Why do the casual plebs keep fishing for this?

"Stop being so humble. You are not that great."

Poster told staff to 'fuck off'. I'm also reminded by the Fingerz meltdown and the resulting expanded suspension. Of course it is not absolute (i.e. not every member of A/A AG trash staff), but you have your head up your ass if you haven't been reading the aggressive nature of these posts insulting the staff and their decisions. I'm not fishing anything

Erati
04-13-2018, 09:42 AM
You asked for them to drop it while they kited and they kept kiting?

What sort of evidence is required to prove to a group that you in fact are not stalling since the popular thing here is guilty til proven innocent?

Log showing slow resists?

Practically all long pulls will have an initial appearance of a stall especially when you are not zerging but as far as I understand you are allowed to kite around a mob like Lodizal if you are actively attempting to debuff/slow it for your engage. Is that incorrect?

Genevensis
04-13-2018, 09:58 AM
especially when its Europa pulling the trigger.
The 30d ban was the trigger? How about the AM 40d and the surely other AM 50d after that one?
Or you seriously think the 7d added was the cause?

Wonkie
04-13-2018, 10:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKuc4nfJByc

raato
04-13-2018, 10:14 AM
Walked right into it. Ok...

Your 30 day on the Fesh train was dumb, our 40 day was for something legit, your 7 day on Vaniki is also dumb, and our (potential) 50 day would be for something legit.

So instead of them serving 30 or 30+40 days that they probably deserved, they are potentially getting 127 days.

Walked right into it. Ok...

Your 30 day on the Fesh train was dumb, our 40 day was for something legit, your 7 day on Vaniki is also dumb, and our (potential) 50 day would be for something legit.

So instead of them serving 30 or 30+40 days that they probably deserved, they are potentially getting 127 days.

So when someone else petitions except AM its dumb? Got ya!

06-19-2016 AW 10 days, petitioned by Rustle. Added 7 days because Fingerz raged to in tells to Rogean.
01-02-2017 AW 10 days, petitioned by AM.
01-17-2017 AW 10 days, petitioned by AM.
01-28-2017 AW 10 days, petitioned by AM.
03-19-2017 AW 10 days, petitioned by AM.
10-23-2017 AW 10 days, petitioned by AM.
11-03-2017 AW 10 days, petitioned by AM.
12-21-2017 AW 20 days, petitioned by AM.
03-01-2018 AW 30 days, petitioned by CSG (Omni/Europa).
04-08-2018 AW 40 days, petitioned by AM. Added 7 days from Europa MEMBERS petition on Vaniki stall just to ask if that's acceptable.

Damn, Europa pulling them triggers!

Ruhtar
04-13-2018, 10:36 AM
I didn't say that. I just said the stuff you guys petition is dumb. Because you are dumb.

If only all other guilds had as much experience as AM in petitioning, maybe everyone would know what things are good to petition and not to?

Bigmoneybabybaby
04-13-2018, 11:10 AM
If only all other guilds had as much experience as AM in petitioning, maybe everyone would know what things are good to petition and not to?

Is this seriously your guilds excuse for being douchebags and petitioning trash shit?

Genevensis
04-13-2018, 11:14 AM
Who are the douchebags? The ones breaking the rules? Or the ones petitioning for breaking them?

Ruhtar
04-13-2018, 11:17 AM
Is this seriously your guilds excuse for being douchebags and petitioning trash shit?

Not my guild. Luckily, it's not up to the player base what is actually considered shit or not for being petitioned. If it were shit, it wouldn't be Awakened crying on the forums.

Bigmoneybabybaby
04-13-2018, 11:29 AM
Or the ones with pocket protection? Maybe those are the douchebags. It’s like being a corrupt cop and saying there’s nothing wrong with what you’re doing because you aren’t getting caught by anybody because you have somebody over your head watching out for you.

mattydef
04-13-2018, 11:30 AM
I didn't say that. I just said the stuff you guys petition is dumb. Because you are dumb.

Lol

thebutthat
04-13-2018, 11:31 AM
I have a strong feeling that the mountains of lol fraps that AW laughs at to be like....hey....at least we're not Eurpoa amirite? Will now just be petitionquested. Petition game gonna get real strong.

raato
04-13-2018, 11:35 AM
Or the ones with pocket protection? Maybe those are the douchebags. It’s like being a corrupt cop and saying there’s nothing wrong with what you’re doing because you aren’t getting caught by anybody because you have somebody over your head watching out for you.

I would be very interested to know how many times Europa and CSG has been petitioned. Can anyone give us the correct numbers?

Triiz
04-13-2018, 11:41 AM
Lol. Two guilds that had to start rotating multiple mobs due to "high likelihood of petitions" criticizing another guild for petitioning. Europa should probably start hanging around pulls just to petition so they can earn a spot in the rotation.

Mythanor
04-13-2018, 11:57 AM
Lol. Two guilds that had to start rotating multiple mobs due to "high likelihood of petitions" criticizing another guild for petitioning. Europa should probably start hanging around pulls just to petition so they can earn a spot in the rotation.

Shinko
04-13-2018, 12:56 PM
Bda was right all along

Detoxx
04-13-2018, 02:51 PM
I would be very interested to know how many times Europa and CSG has been petitioned. Can anyone give us the correct numbers?

No one petitions you because theres nothing to gain. If you get suspended, you virtually kill the same amount of targets as if you're not suspeneded.

There in lies the problem. You can essentially do whatever you want with impunity while being able to get other guilds suspended that means something.

Ravager
04-13-2018, 04:50 PM
No one petitions you because theres nothing to gain. If you get suspended, you virtually kill the same amount of targets as if you're not suspeneded.

There in lies the problem. You can essentially do whatever you want with impunity while being able to get other guilds suspended that means something.
Why's it taking so long to get my pizza?

Swiftyfist
04-13-2018, 05:04 PM
What is your definition of support and loyalty? Lol. Have you donated thousands of dollars to the project and been a tester since the original beta of P99? Does the loyalty come from not cheating on P99 with the likes of TLP servers?

This server and staff owes you nothing. They put the time and money into this server over the years to keep it running for all types of players that like Everquest. The raiding rules that got your guild banned is from years of stupidity from raiders who find ways around the rules in place, so it doesn't matter what they are. If you can't follow the rules, you'll get suspended or banned.

Instead of pointing your finger every which way, try pointing it at your leadership who got you in this scenario.

First of all, no i didn't do anything wrong...99% of awakened didn't do anything wrong with vaniki....my point in being is purely the +10 days that magically keeps going up, i was recently told bye a guide that there goal is not to destroy guilds ( i laugh at this) ...but the real funny part is that you say the raiding guilds are nothing to this server....first of all thats bullshit because i was in a casual guild for most of my time here, i didnt change, im still the filthy casual player i have always been! Just because someone joins a guild that raids doesn't mean they are bad people, apparently you have a biased view and think you are something special? sorry to break it to you buddy. you guys are no different than us! we just happen to work harder and win harder than you guys...
Also, its none of your business if i donated to this server or not! I have shared many great experiences with players from all guilds, i have done my part being a positive player on this server and appreciating the community and the joy of what EQ is all about! yeah they dont owe me shit, but im forever bolstering kindness in norrath on the server i love and probably the only server i'll ever play on...which is p99.
Im practically done with the "kings" pretty much blacklisting so many members for such a long period of time not realizing that alot of these players did nothing to deserve these harsh punishments. You cant do epics cant do practically anything but level alts and seb. This is gone beyond raiding and is now invading our casual play (in a game that lacks content) ..50 days, im ashamed at the decisions made here, as im sure alot are! Its truly sad that im most likely leaving this place with one hell of a bitter view of what is going on with the raiding portion of this server! At the end of the day the rules block us from enjoying the game for 60 days...if there goal is to not destroy guilds then what is it! Don't lie to my face, its the fucking truth and you all know it! Next it will be AM next it will be CSG or anyone else who dares step foot in tov! fucking ruined!
Also Ruthar i dont know you, and dont care to know you..but get off your high horse, the way you are heading, looks like you guys are going to be dealing with the same bullshit rules until you guys get up to 60 day suspention from raiding..then what? you guys are no different than me! we all love EQ and enjoy the causal aspect and the raiding aspect!

Swiftyfist
04-13-2018, 05:07 PM
Also im not here to argue facts here! Im str8 up ashamed at the decisions made, the rules and all of it! there is no reason i should have to wait 60 days to get my ranger epic...or my SK epic or any epic at all! there is no reason why i cant chill in CoM and get my magic flower, there is no fucking reason i cant hang out with over a group of my buddys enjoying casual play....there is no fucking reason i cant go hang out with some casual guild and help them pull kael arena...its bullshit 50 days cant do shit...on top of back to back suspentions...change your fucking rules!

Ravager
04-13-2018, 05:21 PM
Also im not here to argue facts here! Im str8 up ashamed at the decisions made, the rules and all of it! there is no reason i should have to wait 60 days to get my ranger epic...or my SK epic or any epic at all! there is no reason why i cant chill in CoM and get my magic flower, there is no fucking reason i cant hang out with over a group of my buddys enjoying casual play....there is no fucking reason i cant go hang out with some casual guild and help them pull kael arena...its bullshit 50 days cant do shit...on top of back to back suspentions...change your fucking rules!
How many people here waited 5 years to get an epic? 60 days is nothing you spoiled fuck. I know 8 weeks is an eternity in this game when you have nothing else to do with your time, but in life outside of EQ, 2 months is nothing and there's a world of things out there you can fill your time with and be back to shitstomping dragons with your nerd friends in no-time.

Swiftyfist
04-13-2018, 05:28 PM
dude 50 days turns into 90 days in no time...just got back from a suspention and before i was even able to log on "bam" 50 days..fuck outta here trying to call me "spoiled" you don't know shit about me.

mattydef
04-13-2018, 05:32 PM
dude 50 days turns into 90 days in no time...just got back from a suspention and before i was even able to log on "bam" 50 days..fuck outta here trying to call me "spoiled" you don't know shit about me.

Someone put this guy on watch, his rage is worrying.

Swiftyfist
04-13-2018, 05:32 PM
How many people here waited 5 years to get an epic? 60 days is nothing you spoiled fuck. I know 8 weeks is an eternity in this game when you have nothing else to do with your time, but in life outside of EQ, 2 months is nothing and there's a world of things out there you can fill your time with and be back to shitstomping dragons with your nerd friends in no-time.

To be honest i highly doubt anyone gives a fuck what you think, and i sure as hell dont give a fuck what you think about me...so step off your high horse one moment...from an outsider looking in you sound like a forum junkie that thinks the world owes him something when in fact no one knows who the fuck you are. and would probably be embarrassed if they realized there "friend" says stupid shit like this on a everquest forum...

Ravager
04-13-2018, 05:43 PM
To be honest i highly doubt anyone gives a fuck what you think, and i sure as hell dont give a fuck what you think about me...so step off your high horse one moment...from an outsider looking in you sound like a forum junkie that thinks the world owes him something when in fact no one knows who the fuck you are. and would probably be embarrassed if they realized there "friend" says stupid shit like this on a everquest forum...
Yes. Clearly. 0 fucks given. Step outside, take a deep breath. You can be better than this. 2 posts ago you were crying about not being able to get what you want from a free server. But somehow you spin it that I think someone owes me something? Projecting much? It's Friday night dude. Embrace the suspension instead of crying like a bitch about it and then lashing out on the people who are pointing out that you are crying like a bitch about it.

BTW, you're arguing with an alcoholic on his day off. Let that sink in. There is no shame here.

raato
04-13-2018, 07:42 PM
No one petitions you because theres nothing to gain. If you get suspended, you virtually kill the same amount of targets as if you're not suspeneded.

There in lies the problem. You can essentially do whatever you want with impunity while being able to get other guilds suspended that means something.

So, how many times AM has had something they can petition CSG but choose not to petition because there is nothing they can gain with it? You must know the approx number since you apparently run that guild?

Last time I heard you had just sworn that you will nail CSG to the wall the next time they make ANY mistake and it was about year ago. So "nothing to gain" shouldn't mean anything in that context when you just wanted CSG to get raid suspended?

Detoxx
04-13-2018, 09:09 PM
So, how many times AM has had something they can petition CSG but choose not to petition because there is nothing they can gain with it? You must know the approx number since you apparently run that guild?

Last time I heard you had just sworn that you will nail CSG to the wall the next time they make ANY mistake and it was about year ago. So "nothing to gain" shouldn't mean anything in that context when you just wanted CSG to get raid suspended?

At least 7. That I can recall off the top of my head. And thats just CSG.

My vendetta was against you getting any kills. Ive since made amends, thanks to Cloki, and for the betterment of the server. My goal was not to get you suspended.

Elerial
04-13-2018, 10:53 PM
So what do you do after math? Calculus?

Maner
04-13-2018, 11:34 PM
So what do you do after math? Calculus?

Get high under the bleachers

Culkasi
04-14-2018, 04:04 AM
Is Europa turning into the new BDA? It's bad enough that they already harbor Swish
We kicked Swish from the guild like a year ago, not that facts matter much in RnF.
Also, Raato is disgruntled and was part of this raid scene for a long time, but has made the smart move of going to a server where casuals actually get to see content on a regular basis, so whilst he is still in Europa because we, and he, hopes P99 will at some point again be worth returning to, all he is posting here is angry historic stuff (he is not wrong though!)

@Swifty you entitled piece of crap lol. Don't get to get an epic for 60 days? Due to your insistence of blocking content for casuals we have people waiting 4-5-6 years for epics, so no tears for your 2 months - none! Noone has sympathy for your "loss" apart from the other 200-300 people in the two guilds blocking content from the other 3k regularly playing on P99.

I think the raid bans are long and harsh, and I wish there was a way both you and I could have fun on P99, unfortunately other people having fun is not important to either Awakened or Aftermath, and that is probably why the bans keep getting longer and longer. You can be angry at Europa for the 7 days, by all means feel free - or you could try and have a look at why the other 70 days happened and see if there is something in the top guilds behaviour that might need adjusted.

Based on history I am going to wager you will continue to focus on how evil Europa is for petitioning Vaniki and staff choosing to add 7 days to your ban, and change absolutely nothing on your return

Culkasi
04-14-2018, 05:21 AM
Also, to be fair to Detoxx, he has put his previous anger aside and is at least during Awakened bans making an effort to make stuff happen for the casuals, and without painting him a saint, I can tell you its very well received by a lot of people who get to experience content normally locked away.

Tupakk
04-14-2018, 01:52 PM
At least 7. That I can recall off the top of my head. And thats just CSG.

My vendetta was against you getting any kills. Ive since made amends, thanks to Cloki, and for the betterment of the server. My goal was not to get you suspended.

Cloki is not to be trusted. I would be wary of him.

Argh
04-14-2018, 03:25 PM
Cloki is not to be trusted. I would be wary of him.

Why? Did he not tip you enough for a port?

Twochain
04-14-2018, 03:30 PM
Cloki is not to be trusted. I would be wary of him.

CLOKI?!

Dude is a saint. You don't say that

Wonkie
04-14-2018, 03:33 PM
Cloki is not to be trusted. I would be wary of him.

Haters still hatin. How long you been holding that grudge bro.



:o

skarlorn
04-14-2018, 05:32 PM
Clokis only crime was not fully defeating BDA in the omni split and letting the server live chest free

arsenalpow
04-14-2018, 10:10 PM
Shut up.

Heebs13
04-15-2018, 10:32 AM
This is the most p99 thread I have ever read.